JustErin said:

city and country.

Thats what my answer was gonna be...

There's no difference to the people who own the land.

two wheels and a tow hitch...

NDRU said:

johnart said:

You know no one wants that crummy answer.

but seriously, what else could the answer be?

I have not seen too many trailer parks in the ghetto (though I have seen a couple)

My experience has been that you kinda have to go south (and middle) to get more of a crossover. I grew up in the Northeast (NJ then lived in PA) and I never met "country" self-professed "hillbilly" folk of color until we moved to this area. Of course there are folk of various colors/ethnicities in each (ghetto/trailer), to varying degrees. But, it's terminology that's painfully well known for black/white divisive issues and good fodder for

Simple...skin color.

When you see a white person acting or appearing "that way" they are called trailer park trash.

A minority...ghetto.

StonedImmaculate said:

Simple...skin color.

When you see a white person acting or appearing "that way" they are called trailer park trash.

A minority...ghetto.

I agree mostly however I know some white people that I would describe as "ghetto" as opposed to "white trash".

HotGritz said:

JerseyKRS said:

the ghetto is worse.

I dunno. I've seen some pretty fucked up trailer parks from the freeway and on road trips. I mean if you are poor and you have nowhere to go and you're renting your trailer.

That's a big assumption. A lot of people live in trailer parks because its inexpensive, or simply the life they're used to living, not because they don't have money. You can BUY a nice ass trailer (relatively speaking) and have a payment far less than what you would for a small house. Shit, I'm pretty sure they sometimes cost less than the down payment on a house. Anyway, buying something feels good no matter what income level you're at.

As far as what the words mean, because I use them, I think it refers to lower to lower-middle class white folk who are a bit out of style. 80s haircuts. Bellies hangin' out of too short shirts. Camouflage wearin'. Gun rack in the raised pick-up. No shoes on, child on hip, drinkin' a beer. Doesn't necessarily mean they're poor, though.

Also, I'm going to have to agree with KRS, too. Crime is totally different in the ghetto than it is in the trailer park. People are not regularly getting murdered in trailer parks like they are in Richmond and Oakland (my local examples). Its just a totally different lifestyle.

Lastly, I agree with Stoned. A certain type of white person, stereotype or not, is going to be labeled "trailer park", where as a minority would be called ghetto. Again, stereotypes - not necessarily truths. And I full well realize that "white people" will be the minority soon enough. When that happens they'll still be the ones labeled "trailer park".

JuliePurplehead said:

StonedImmaculate said:

Simple...skin color.

When you see a white person acting or appearing "that way" they are called trailer park trash.

A minority...ghetto.

I agree mostly however I know some white people that I would describe as "ghetto" as opposed to "white trash".

Totally agree. But strangely I've never known anyone I would describe the other way around.

Cerebus said:

JuliePurplehead said:

I agree mostly however I know some white people that I would describe as "ghetto" as opposed to "white trash".

Totally agree. But strangely I've never known anyone I would describe the other way around.

You know, I don't think I have either.

JuliePurplehead said:

Cerebus said:

Totally agree. But strangely I've never known anyone I would describe the other way around.

You know, I don't think I have either.

Clearly neither of you have ever seen Trailer Park Boys.

In Canada, especially the maritimes, "trailer park" comes in every race.

JustErin said:

JuliePurplehead said:

You know, I don't think I have either.

Clearly neither of you have ever seen Trailer Park Boys.

In Canada, especially the maritimes, "trailer park" comes in every race.

Nope. Not until just now. "Marty McLarge Fry"

Cerebus said:

JustErin said:

Clearly neither of you have ever seen Trailer Park Boys.

In Canada, especially the maritimes, "trailer park" comes in every race.

Nope. Not until just now. "Marty McLarge Fry"

Well, this show, filmed like an hour from where I live, is basically what the rural folk are like out here.

But it is a hilarious show.

The former gets hit by tornadoes and the latter doesn't?

is this a trick question?

johnart said:

JustErin said:

city and country.

You know no one wants that crummy answer.

...Nevermind.

Eminem vs 50Cent

dJJ said:

Eminem vs 50Cent

50 cent ain't ghetto... he's a hood rat. 50cent has good manners and he plays ghetto to sell records.

Now Kwanye West is ghetto! He has zero etiquette and the more money her makes the worse he gets.

Eminem... is he trailer park or trashy? I don't know because I would describe him as a hoodrat too.

paintedlady said:

I don't know much about what's "trailer park" .... but I live in south Boston.

White people hate the white people in Southie because they say that Southie whites are trash.

"Urban-let-me-show-you-my-bullet-holes-scars-I-ain't-scared-of-no-niggas-and-hate-them" type folks.

The women over 35 stay drunk or look drunk while completely sober. They eyeball you hard and will tell you "You don't belong here".

The men over 35 are not seen because they are doing time in South Bay.

The ones that aren't work as staties along Carson Beach. They eyeball you hard and say "You don't belong here"

The teens are usually a good looking bunch for Irish folks, you would be hard pressed to find an ugly one... but they usually have acne from using meth and really bad breath and teeth. They eyeball you hard and say "You don't belong here".

They little kids are usually nappy headed 1/2 black children of the teens. They just look confused, cute as hell though... they openly use words like "nigger" and "hate" often... (lovinly taught by open-minded grand parents that are upset they had to move to the south shore to get away from brown folks moving in like me)....they play freely in the streets until mid-night and are usually care-free and on ritolin during the school year.

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT POOR... they usually live in decent (upper middle-middle class) homes and have gambling problems they can support.

They are a unique bunch because no other white people I know act this hard at all... they are mean sons of bitches and proud of it. Born to be hockey champions. They have and edge. Don't mess with those people... give them a dollar and just walk away.

They do not blend well at all with the trendy yuppies moving in that worry about their carbon footprint and wear tailored understated designer clothing.... or any other white people for that matter.

Movies have been made of these people... they are an interesting bunch, and they change for no one! They don't do tourists either so don't come around asking shit to anyone about anybody.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Ghetto" is a lack of class.... you can be any color and be ghetto.... heck you don't even have to be poor to be ghetto.

I have witnessed lots of ghetto behaviors from middle-class people more so than the poor people I know. These ghetto people live in nice homes, and have been "educated".... but still you can't go anywhere with these heffas without worry of embarassing behavior being exhibited by them.

Ghetto people don't even have to dress the part either... just let them open their mouths and speak to you, within the first sentence spoken you will think

"Yup, ghetto!"

Boston is spaychul... the women look nice and classy, but they will fist fight you til you are bloody over a nickel in the church bookstore on Easter Sunday. Just trifiling sistas.

well... that's my "trash vs. ghetto"... but I know zip about "trailer park".

and I think those terms do not soley belong to poor people, although many poor people do behave that way.

This was the Org equivalent of a Lifetime Network documentary.

paintedlady said:

Trailer parks have greenery and three legged dogs.

paintedlady said:

dJJ said:

Eminem vs 50Cent

50 cent ain't ghetto... he's a hood rat. 50cent has good manners and he plays ghetto to sell records.

Now Kwanye West is ghetto! He has zero etiquette and the more money her makes the worse he gets.

Eminem... is he trailer park or trashy? I don't know because I would describe him as a hoodrat too.

Trailerparkboys and Ghettoboys are both hoodrats?

*learningmoreEnglishwordsagain*

[Edited 8/17/11 5:20am]

I've never heard somebody referred to as trailer park....trailer trash is the term I've most often heard or the ever popular white trash...and of course, I've heard ghetto slung around freely as well...my only issue with anything trailer related is that I've never saw fit to minimalize somebody because of WHAT they live in...nobody ever says "apartment trash", "duplex dickhead" or "subsidized housing son of a bitch"...my point is, if you're gonna have an issue with somebody, have it because of what they are, not where they are....have it because you have a real issue with them and not just a fucked up perception of them...

orger said:

I've never heard somebody referred to as trailer park....trailer trash is the term I've most often heard or the ever popular white trash...and of course, I've heard ghetto slung around freely as well...my only issue with anything trailer related is that I've never saw fit to minimalize somebody because of WHAT they live in...nobody ever says "apartment trash", "duplex dickhead" or "subsidized housing son of a bitch"...my point is, if you're gonna have an issue with somebody, have it because of what they are, not where they are....have it because you have a real issue with them and not just a fucked up perception of them...

Im gonna have to disagree with you here... I watch Cops...

tinaz said:

orger said:

I've never heard somebody referred to as trailer park....trailer trash is the term I've most often heard or the ever popular white trash...and of course, I've heard ghetto slung around freely as well...my only issue with anything trailer related is that I've never saw fit to minimalize somebody because of WHAT they live in...nobody ever says "apartment trash", "duplex dickhead" or "subsidized housing son of a bitch"...my point is, if you're gonna have an issue with somebody, have it because of what they are, not where they are....have it because you have a real issue with them and not just a fucked up perception of them...

Im gonna have to disagree with you here... I watch Cops...

I have family that lives in trailers (some in trailer parks) that have never made one appeareance on cops...I have friends that live in projects that haven't appeared on cops...shows like that are part of the problem (dont get me wrong I watch it and have been entertained) but they show the lowest type people or people at their lowest...and both of those type fol;ks can be found in any living arrangement

Cerebus said:

HotGritz said:

I dunno. I've seen some pretty fucked up trailer parks from the freeway and on road trips. I mean if you are poor and you have nowhere to go and you're renting your trailer.

That's a big assumption. A lot of people live in trailer parks because its inexpensive, or simply the life they're used to living, not because they don't have money. You can BUY a nice ass trailer (relatively speaking) and have a payment far less than what you would for a small house. Shit, I'm pretty sure they sometimes cost less than the down payment on a house. Anyway, buying something feels good no matter what income level you're at.

Very true. when I was young I worked for a stylist once who moved from Georgia to Miami, and he was prepping to by his mom back home a doublewide trailer. He showed me some brochure information and I was shocked at how modern and spacious they were. Depending on which angle you photograph them, some double wides even resemble the "shotgun house" style of architecture in the south, even though I think they're actually bigger . Another thing I learned that day is that trailer parks aren't just a non- minority enclave either; cause homeboy was a black dude with a Jheri curl . Anyhoo- who knew that these days they're making trailers with 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms I figure it gives some folks the opportunity to own a little piece of something all their own in this world, good on them.

I would surmise there's been a lot of tongue and cheek, concerning this topic. I'm hesitant to say get a sense of humor... because some people feelings could be hurt and offended.

I'd suggest one look at the lighter side of things...

The way the media speaks and portrays the South and West side of Chicago, you'd think it was all ghetto. But it ain't... sometimes you have to laugh at the perception.

PurpleJedi said:

paintedlady said:

I don't know much about what's "trailer park" .... but I live in south Boston.

White people hate the white people in Southie because they say that Southie whites are trash.

"Urban-let-me-show-you-my-bullet-holes-scars-I-ain't-scared-of-no-niggas-and-hate-them" type folks.

The women over 35 stay drunk or look drunk while completely sober. They eyeball you hard and will tell you "You don't belong here".

The men over 35 are not seen because they are doing time in South Bay.

The ones that aren't work as staties along Carson Beach. They eyeball you hard and say "You don't belong here"

The teens are usually a good looking bunch for Irish folks, you would be hard pressed to find an ugly one... but they usually have acne from using meth and really bad breath and teeth. They eyeball you hard and say "You don't belong here".

They little kids are usually nappy headed 1/2 black children of the teens. They just look confused, cute as hell though... they openly use words like "nigger" and "hate" often... (lovinly taught by open-minded grand parents that are upset they had to move to the south shore to get away from brown folks moving in like me)....they play freely in the streets until mid-night and are usually care-free and on ritolin during the school year.

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT POOR... they usually live in decent (upper middle-middle class) homes and have gambling problems they can support.

They are a unique bunch because no other white people I know act this hard at all... they are mean sons of bitches and proud of it. Born to be hockey champions. They have and edge. Don't mess with those people... give them a dollar and just walk away.

They do not blend well at all with the trendy yuppies moving in that worry about their carbon footprint and wear tailored understated designer clothing.... or any other white people for that matter.

Movies have been made of these people... they are an interesting bunch, and they change for no one! They don't do tourists either so don't come around asking shit to anyone about anybody.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Ghetto" is a lack of class.... you can be any color and be ghetto.... heck you don't even have to be poor to be ghetto.

I have witnessed lots of ghetto behaviors from middle-class people more so than the poor people I know. These ghetto people live in nice homes, and have been "educated".... but still you can't go anywhere with these heffas without worry of embarassing behavior being exhibited by them.

Ghetto people don't even have to dress the part either... just let them open their mouths and speak to you, within the first sentence spoken you will think

"Yup, ghetto!"

Boston is spaychul... the women look nice and classy, but they will fist fight you til you are bloody over a nickel in the church bookstore on Easter Sunday. Just trifiling sistas.

well... that's my "trash vs. ghetto"... but I know zip about "trailer park".

and I think those terms do not soley belong to poor people, although many poor people do behave that way.

This was the Org equivalent of a Lifetime Network documentary.

It really was! Or a sociology class: "Social Stratification in Bostonian Culture".

Werk, Professor Painted !!!

orger said:

tinaz said:

Im gonna have to disagree with you here... I watch Cops...

I have family that lives in trailers (some in trailer parks) that have never made one appeareance on cops...I have friends that live in projects that haven't appeared on cops...shows like that are part of the problem (dont get me wrong I watch it and have been entertained) but they show the lowest type people or people at their lowest...and both of those type fol;ks can be found in any living arrangement

You know im playin... Heck, when my parents had me they had to live in the trailer court for a while.. this is why people have this preconcieved notion about people who live in trailers and the "ghetto" You only see the bad people because that makes good television...

Ottensen said:

Cerebus said:

That's a big assumption. A lot of people live in trailer parks because its inexpensive, or simply the life they're used to living, not because they don't have money. You can BUY a nice ass trailer (relatively speaking) and have a payment far less than what you would for a small house. Shit, I'm pretty sure they sometimes cost less than the down payment on a house. Anyway, buying something feels good no matter what income level you're at.

Very true. when I was young I worked for a stylist once who moved from Georgia to Miami, and he was prepping to by his mom back home a doublewide trailer. He showed me some brochure information and I was shocked at how modern and spacious they were. Depending on which angle you photograph them, some double wides even resemble the "shotgun house" style of architecture in the south, even though I think they're actually bigger . Another thing I learned that day is that trailer parks aren't just a non- minority enclave either; cause homeboy was a black dude with a Jheri curl . Anyhoo- who knew that these days they're making trailers with 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms I figure it gives some folks the opportunity to own a little piece of something all their own in this world, good on them.

this looks more like a pre-fab house or modular home... Around here, lots of farm or country folk own them..

tinaz said:

You know im playin...

I know...

tinaz said:

Ottensen said:

Very true. when I was young I worked for a stylist once who moved from Georgia to Miami, and he was prepping to by his mom back home a doublewide trailer. He showed me some brochure information and I was shocked at how modern and spacious they were. Depending on which angle you photograph them, some double wides even resemble the "shotgun house" style of architecture in the south, even though I think they're actually bigger . Another thing I learned that day is that trailer parks aren't just a non- minority enclave either; cause homeboy was a black dude with a Jheri curl . Anyhoo- who knew that these days they're making trailers with 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms I figure it gives some folks the opportunity to own a little piece of something all their own in this world, good on them.

this looks more like a pre-fab house or modular home... Around here, lots of farm or country folk own them..

girl, thats a trailer all day long

TD3 said:

The way the media speaks and portrays the South and West side of Chicago, you'd think it was all ghetto. But it ain't... sometimes you have to laugh at the perception.

I think it's easier to laugh at the perception if you know what the reality is...but for those that don't know the reality, all they have is the perception and when that perception is overwhelmingly negative then it creates an issue for those that live in that 'reality' ...

I apologize for my overuse of the words perception and reality in that post