Cerebus said:

JustErin said:

I've met a few Canadian military dudes and they were all arrogant douchebags that didn't talk about their job, they bragged about it....know what I mean? And they were the kind of guys that would end up getting in some fight at a bar, you know being all tough and shit.

I like some arrogance and confidence in a guy, but nothing turns me off more than a violent guy...and that's exactly the type I think of when I think army dude. Like they can't control anger and just snap.

But yeah, that's why I said misconceptions.

Hey, I could certainly be wrong. Its not like I've ever dated one of them or anything. I'm just going by my impressions of the people I've known who have actually gone PAST basic training, been stationed someplace, possibly even seen "action" and served out the term of their enlistment (although several reenlisted and a couple were lifers). Maybe that makes a difference.

I do know the type you're referring too, but I always assumed (dangerous, I know) that it was largely a stereotype. At the very least I think its only one type of enlisted person. As far as snapping, again, not controlling your anger is really not a good trait for someone who is being trained to take orders and call on their training in strenuous situations.

(As an aside, although the comment made me laugh, I would never punch you out. I've walked away from more than one woman who was punching and kicking me. Hitting a woman is never OK, and for me there is no "unless". But it would be better if you never kicked me in the balls. Just sayin'. )

Hahaha...I know. I wouldn't kick you in the balls...even if you asked me to....I would think of you as less of a man if you did and we all know how I feel about guys that like to be dominated...next step....diaper wearing, frilly panties and infantilism.

armpit said:

JustErin said:

I've met a few Canadian military dudes and they were all arrogant douchebags that didn't talk about their job, they bragged about it....know what I mean? And they were the kind of guys that would end up getting in some fight at a bar, you know being all tough and shit.

I like some arrogance and confidence in a guy, but nothing turns me off more than a violent guy...and that's exactly the type I think of when I think army dude. Like they can't control anger and just snap.

But yeah, that's why I said misconceptions.

This is exactly what I think of when people mention army guys.

I wonder if many women do...?

JustErin said:

Cerebus said:

But how does any of that affect you dating them? See, I guess I'm still confused by all this.

Because I just think going through that shit effects you deeply and not for the better.

The only time I think you'd have the slightest reason for concern is if the person's been in active combat. This last venture out for Iraq and Afganistan really did a number on a lot of kids with Post-Traumatic War Disorder, but, I'm hoping this is more the exception than the rule. I've met people who have this, and it's instant intensity when you meet many of them. But outside of this group of people who have been affected in this way, I've never met a military person (those in my family included) that ever had any adjustment issues or inside demons to speak of.

JustErin said:

Cerebus said:

Hey, I could certainly be wrong. Its not like I've ever dated one of them or anything. I'm just going by my impressions of the people I've known who have actually gone PAST basic training, been stationed someplace, possibly even seen "action" and served out the term of their enlistment (although several reenlisted and a couple were lifers). Maybe that makes a difference.

I do know the type you're referring too, but I always assumed (dangerous, I know) that it was largely a stereotype. At the very least I think its only one type of enlisted person. As far as snapping, again, not controlling your anger is really not a good trait for someone who is being trained to take orders and call on their training in strenuous situations.

(As an aside, although the comment made me laugh, I would never punch you out. I've walked away from more than one woman who was punching and kicking me. Hitting a woman is never OK, and for me there is no "unless". But it would be better if you never kicked me in the balls. Just sayin'. )

Hahaha...I know. I wouldn't kick you in the balls...even if you asked me to....I would think of you as less of a man if you did and we all know how I feel about guys that like to be dominated...next step....diaper wearing, frilly panties and infantilism.

OK, as usual, this is taking a weird turn.

Yeah, you know that comment I made about that... uhh... other thing that makes me double over and hold my dick, near nauseous? This shit is even worse. I seen videos where I just want to jump up and scream "what the hell are you doing?!?!" I don't know how those guys can be kicked like that over and over. Doesn't work for me AT. ALL. Totally agree with you on this one.

JustErin said:

Cerebus said:

OK, that's what I thought for a minute, but I wasn't sure. In that case, what I said up above. Like I said, the best soldiers are the ones who are not affected by any of it deeply. Not the training, or the service, or the "action". Yes, a good number of them are affected by it in some way. But that doesn't necessarily turn them into violent, drooling monsters. In the case of two of my family members it actually mellowed them quite a bit.

Edit: ing, ed, it makes a difference.

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I've met a few Canadian military dudes and they were all arrogant douchebags that didn't talk about their job, they bragged about it....know what I mean? And they were the kind of guys that would end up getting in some fight at a bar, you know being all tough and shit.

I like some arrogance and confidence in a guy, but nothing turns me off more than a violent guy...and that's exactly the type I think of when I think army dude. Like they can't control anger and just snap.

But yeah, that's why I said misconceptions.

Ottensen said:

JustErin said:

Because I just think going through that shit effects you deeply and not for the better.

The only time I think you'd have the slightest reason for concern is if the person's been in active combat. This last venture out for Iraq and Afganistan really did a number on a lot of kids with Post-Traumatic War Disorder, but, I'm hoping this is more the exception than the rule. I've met people who have this, and it's instant intensity when you meet many of them. But outside of this group of people who have been affected in this way, I've never met a military person (those in my family included) that ever had any adjustment issues or inside demons to speak of.

I get the active combat thing and you're probably right...but doesn't eveyone who joins get the same training no matter if you're on the front like or cooking the meals?

Do you not think that even the training changes people?

Cerebus said:

JustErin said:

Hahaha...I know. I wouldn't kick you in the balls...even if you asked me to....I would think of you as less of a man if you did and we all know how I feel about guys that like to be dominated...next step....diaper wearing, frilly panties and infantilism.

OK, as usual, this is taking a weird turn.

Yeah, you know that comment I made about that... uhh... other thing that makes me double over and hold my dick, near nauseous? This shit is even worse. I seen videos where I just want to jump up and scream "what the hell are you doing?!?!" I don't know how those guys can be kicked like that over and over. Doesn't work for me AT. ALL. Totally agree with you on this one.

What about having your nutsack nailed to a board?

JustErin said:

Cerebus said:

OK, as usual, this is taking a weird turn.

Yeah, you know that comment I made about that... uhh... other thing that makes me double over and hold my dick, near nauseous? This shit is even worse. I seen videos where I just want to jump up and scream "what the hell are you doing?!?!" I don't know how those guys can be kicked like that over and over. Doesn't work for me AT. ALL. Totally agree with you on this one.

What about having your nutsack nailed to a board?

Cerebus said:

JustErin said:

What about having your nutsack nailed to a board?

JustErin said:

imago said:

From a civilian point-of-view, if your'e dating one, an Army person may be a normal guy with a job that just happens to require him to wear battle-dress-uniforms. Dating a marine means you're dating someone who is definately 'in the life'. Marines will never lose touch with their friends. It's more like a brotherhood. That's not to say each service doesn't have that feel to it, but it's very intense with marines.

I would imagine marines are the best in bed.

But what do they do? Like, I know navy is boat dudes, and air force well, that speaks for itself.

My uncle was visiting and was talking about what he had to go through in training...like being shipped out to some fucking remote wilderness and told he and his team had to survive 2 weeks on nothing - like nothing. He talked about waterboarding training and other crazy shit.

Maybe it's not like that now, he fought in vietnam...but I was mortified listening to him.

Your uncle was in a special unit (Seal, Rangers, etc.) or a special medical combat team.

Your military guys will be infrantry, supply, logistics, etc. or professional trade (computers, medical, administrative, etc,)

For some services, it's more or less like a civilian job. For example, I was a computer guy. I was more likely to see a server or mainframe than a person with a weapon. It just depends on the 'job' they have.

Is it just me or is the org freezing every 30 mimutes?

imago said:

JustErin said:

But what do they do? Like, I know navy is boat dudes, and air force well, that speaks for itself.

My uncle was visiting and was talking about what he had to go through in training...like being shipped out to some fucking remote wilderness and told he and his team had to survive 2 weeks on nothing - like nothing. He talked about waterboarding training and other crazy shit.

Maybe it's not like that now, he fought in vietnam...but I was mortified listening to him.

Your uncle was in a special unit (Seal, Rangers, etc.) or a special medical combat team.

Your military guys will be infrantry, supply, logistics, etc. or professional trade (computers, medical, administrative, etc,)

For some services, it's more or less like a civilian job. For example, I was a computer guy. I was more likely to see a server or mainframe than a person with a weapon. It just depends on the 'job' they have.

Is it just me or is the org freezing every 30 mimutes?

Wow. I actually thought it was just me, but the last time I posted something about it in site discussion I got no response. This along with GD getting spammed makes Cerebus a wee bit nervous.

Working fine for me, suckas!

My eldest sister was in the military for 25 yrs. She retired after serving a tour and a half in Iraq.

She's fucking crazy, BUT! She always fucks on the first date, so. Essentially, she is now a man.

editgrammar

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JustErin said:

Ottensen said:

The only time I think you'd have the slightest reason for concern is if the person's been in active combat. This last venture out for Iraq and Afganistan really did a number on a lot of kids with Post-Traumatic War Disorder, but, I'm hoping this is more the exception than the rule. I've met people who have this, and it's instant intensity when you meet many of them. But outside of this group of people who have been affected in this way, I've never met a military person (those in my family included) that ever had any adjustment issues or inside demons to speak of.

I get the active combat thing and you're probably right...but doesn't eveyone who joins get the same training no matter if you're on the front like or cooking the meals?

Do you not think that even the training changes people?

No, not exactly. There's basic training/boot camp, which all members of a given military branch go through. But after that there is job specific training, or "tech school". Depending on what capacity you'll serve in, there can be even more specialized training, like water survival school, SERE training (survival, evasion, resistance, escape), and so on. So you can have two guys essentially doing the same job, but if one does his from a plane, let's say, he may have to go to water survival school, whereas the ground-based guy does not. These are just a couple Air Force examples, I'm sure the other branches have have other forms of unique training.

JustErin said:

So I guess that's it...thread's done.

I was wrong about them.

Should I change the subject now to get at least 50 views? I can't allow less than 50 views.

I need at least 50 views as validation.

having someone u care 4 that is in the military would be difficult because of the fear of losing them

for me that would be the only reason i'd keep away, as i think most are nice genuine ppl

Fauxie said:

JustErin said:

So I guess that's it...thread's done.

I was wrong about them.

Should I change the subject now to get at least 50 views? I can't allow less than 50 views.

I need at least 50 views as validation.

I got a decent sig line out of it, so it's not a total loss.

"..like I know Navy is boat dudes.." - This really made me giggle too!

imago said:

JustErin said:

What's the difference between the army and the marines?

From a civilian point-of-view, if your'e dating one, an Army person may be a normal guy with a job that just happens to require him to wear battle-dress-uniforms. Dating a marine means you're dating someone who is definately 'in the life'. Marines will never lose touch with their friends. It's more like a brotherhood. That's not to say each service doesn't have that feel to it, but it's very intense with marines.

I would imagine marines are the best in bed.

EWWWWWW my SON is a marine!

My husband was in the Army, there does seem to be a difference in the level of how the marines feel for each other and how the army did...

I would date him just because I think a guy in a uniform is HOT

When we went to my sons basic graduation a couple years ago, all those drill sgts walking around fit as could be in those perfectly fit uniforms with their covers on... I was like the whole time!

tinaz said:

imago said:

From a civilian point-of-view, if your'e dating one, an Army person may be a normal guy with a job that just happens to require him to wear battle-dress-uniforms. Dating a marine means you're dating someone who is definately 'in the life'. Marines will never lose touch with their friends. It's more like a brotherhood. That's not to say each service doesn't have that feel to it, but it's very intense with marines.

I would imagine marines are the best in bed.

EWWWWWW my SON is a marine!

My husband was in the Army, there does seem to be a difference in the level of how the marines feel for each other and how the army did...

I would date him just because I think a guy in a uniform is HOT

When we went to my sons basic graduation a couple years ago, all those drill sgts walking around fit as could be in those perfectly fit uniforms with their covers on... I was like the whole time!

EEEWWWWW but yr SON is in the Army!!!!

.

I bet U stared at yr boy in his uniform for a tad longer than u shouldve didnt you....?

Why not just get to know him? Why judge the book by it's cover?

I think behaviour is a better standard for judgement than occupation or whatever the person tells you about himself. Be aware when his words don't match with his behaviour. Oftentimes, that means he is accustomed to making excuses for himself in order to keep his self image intact. Well, that's only important when you'r looking for someone you want to rely on, if you'r not looking for a trustworthy person, than just go by what he's telling you

SexLovely said:

tinaz said:

EWWWWWW my SON is a marine!

My husband was in the Army, there does seem to be a difference in the level of how the marines feel for each other and how the army did...

I would date him just because I think a guy in a uniform is HOT

When we went to my sons basic graduation a couple years ago, all those drill sgts walking around fit as could be in those perfectly fit uniforms with their covers on... I was like the whole time!

EEEWWWWW but yr SON is in the Army!!!!

.

I bet U stared at yr boy in his uniform for a tad longer than u shouldve didnt you....?

He's a MARINE

Everyone was staring at him... He's my son... He got all my good looks!

Ya sick bastard!!

imago said:

JustErin said:

What's the difference between the army and the marines?

From a civilian point-of-view, if your'e dating one, an Army person may be a normal guy with a job that just happens to require him to wear battle-dress-uniforms. Dating a marine means you're dating someone who is definately 'in the life'. Marines will never lose touch with their friends. It's more like a brotherhood. That's not to say each service doesn't have that feel to it, but it's very intense with marines.

I would imagine marines are the best in bed.

That made me Can you please elaborate

Spinlight said:

My eldest sister was in the military for 25 yrs. She retired after serving a tour and a half in Iraq.

She's fucking crazy, BUT! She always fucks on the first date, so. Essentially, she is now a man.

editgrammar

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Shit, this is the funniest post I ever read here. This thread is hilarious!

Sweetie is ex-Air Force - he went to the academy (vice presidential appointment from Spiro Agnew ) and was a fighter pilot.

In his day, everyone who went to the academy had to be pilot certified. That is no longer true. And he definitely has an "Air Force attitude" - though many other men in his family were Army.

For example, if we're on a flight and the landing is even slightly bumpy, he will look over at me and say, "Must be a Navy pilot. "

tinaz said:

imago said:

From a civilian point-of-view, if your'e dating one, an Army person may be a normal guy with a job that just happens to require him to wear battle-dress-uniforms. Dating a marine means you're dating someone who is definately 'in the life'. Marines will never lose touch with their friends. It's more like a brotherhood. That's not to say each service doesn't have that feel to it, but it's very intense with marines.

I would imagine marines are the best in bed.

EWWWWWW my SON is a marine!

My husband was in the Army, there does seem to be a difference in the level of how the marines feel for each other and how the army did...

I would date him just because I think a guy in a uniform is HOT

When we went to my sons basic graduation a couple years ago, all those drill sgts walking around fit as could be in those perfectly fit uniforms with their covers on... I was like the whole time!

My Dad was a Marine ~ 2 Brothers, ranking lifetime USAF officers ! ~ Uncles, Wartime Vets ... I have visited and lived on USAF bases and Dated a F16 Pilot as well

Many of the most incredible men I know are/were Military

typos are a bitch edit

[Edited 8/15/11 13:29pm]

JustErin said:

FauxReal said:

Marines are definitely more apt to choke the sh*t out of her.

Marines have longer training, Erin, to partly answer your question. They also sort of fall under the Navy for the most part. As far as infantry goes, they're the "big guns" of the military (not counting spec ops type shit like Army Rangers and Navy Seals). Not really sure how to exactly explain it.

Ah, I see. My uncle was talking about training the SEALS so it makes sense that the marines work closely with the navy.

I think the Marines are also the first into battle, so I would think those who join are maybe a bit more gung ho.

Not that the Army does not see combat, but the Marines seem to be the first responders to most situations, unless it's hush hush, in which case the SEALS probably go in.

My cousin was in the Navy, and I don't really agree with his politics, but he is not a violent person, he lived on a submarine and handled communications. He was basically a floating secretary.

My dad's in the army and he's a douche, always liked to push me and my brother around . Then he married a evil witch and I went to live with my mom and brother. I used to hug him when he came home from work with his uniform, and he'd have a smell.. anyway couldn't date anyone in the military cause it'll remind me of him

InternationalLover82 said:

My dad's in the army and he's a douche, always liked to push me and my brother around . Then he married a evil witch and I went to live with my mom and brother. I used to hug him when he came home from work with his uniform, and he'd have a smell.. anyway couldn't date anyone in the military cause it'll remind me of him

....a smell...???

SexLovely said:

InternationalLover82 said:

My dad's in the army and he's a douche, always liked to push me and my brother around . Then he married a evil witch and I went to live with my mom and brother. I used to hug him when he came home from work with his uniform, and he'd have a smell.. anyway couldn't date anyone in the military cause it'll remind me of him

....a smell...???

Like a sweaty-came-home-from-work smell I dunno lol