JoeTyler said:

what's the point of fisting?

Am I wrong, or both the giver and the receiver must be INSANE in order to do it?

Yes. Insanity is a prerequisite. Also booze and little blue pills.

JoeTyler said:

what's the point of fisting?

Am I wrong, or both the giver and the receiver must be INSANE in order to do it?

Like I said earlier in this thread, I fisted a guy once. And I consider myself to be pretty sane.

For me it was a one time experience. But if people are into it, you got my blessing.

HotGritz said:

Spinlight said:

Exactly what point do you make to judge people's sexual proclivities?

I will judge your proclivities your proclavities and all ya other stretched out cavities. Now what?

My point is that making broad spectrum comments doesn't actually come to any true conclusions. It's just iggnance. There's nothing wrong with sex given the partners are amicable, willing, capable adults.

What's the point of trying to dissect and overanalyze why someone likes sex? It's impossible to describe.

HotGritz said:

JoeTyler said:

what's the point of fisting?

Am I wrong, or both the giver and the receiver must be INSANE in order to do it?

Yes. Insanity is a prerequisite. Also booze and little blue pills.

Why would you need little blue pills?

Spinlight said:

HotGritz said:

NO fucking way...what?

That is too damned disgusting. Well that and the whole fucking animals and babies crap. I don't get it at all and yeah the internet has a lot to do with people getting more and more depraved because they see something err uh "new" and they try it and try to do something even more depraved than what someone else did. Its like drugs. One hit of one type drug just isn't enough. People want cocktails round the clock.

Exactly what point do you make to judge people's sexual proclivities?

I never understood sexual acts like fisting being compared to child abuse and bestiality.

It's acts between two consenting adults. Fucking babies and animals is not.

HotGritz said:

armpit said:

And if they aren't, they will be by the time they're done.

I don't understand how stuff that obviously looks painful as fuck is a turn-on to people. I've seen all kinds of shit - people having an entire arm up their ass; people who let others feed a tube up their ass and then fill it with liquid cement; the whole nine...

I kind of wonder if the recent internet boom of the past ten years and thus, people having easier access to porn, has something to do with it. My sister was talking about violence on tv yesterday and people becoming desensitized to it, and I wonder if it isn't something along those lines when it comes to sexual activity. That people watch this stuff on the net and gradually over time, standard sex starts to seem boring to them and they can't even get turned on by it so they have to start resorting to more and more extreme shit just to experience any physical pleasure.

NO fucking way...what?

That is too damned disgusting. Well that and the whole fucking animals and babies crap. I don't get it at all and yeah the internet has a lot to do with people getting more and more depraved because they see something err uh "new" and they try it and try to do something even more depraved than what someone else did. Its like drugs. One hit of one type drug just isn't enough. People want cocktails round the clock.

Thank you, this is exactly what I was trying to say. I think in a way this stuff is like a drug and that before long, they can't get the same buzz so they have to go on to harder shit to even feel anything at all.

Spinlight said:

HotGritz said:

I will judge your proclivities your proclavities and all ya other stretched out cavities. Now what?

My point is that making broad spectrum comments doesn't actually come to any true conclusions. It's just iggnance. There's nothing wrong with sex given the partners are amicable, willing, capable adults.

What's the point of trying to dissect and overanalyze why someone likes sex? It's impossible to describe.

We're not talking about why someone likes sex or dissecting or overanalyzing sex in general. We are talking about fisting. A very specific and potentially harmful and IMO disgusting act. I aint gotta like it to talk about it. You may like somebody shitting in your mouth after eating garbage but if someone else says "that's disgusting" you want to feel offended? Come on now.

armpit said:

HotGritz said:

NO fucking way...what?

That is too damned disgusting. Well that and the whole fucking animals and babies crap. I don't get it at all and yeah the internet has a lot to do with people getting more and more depraved because they see something err uh "new" and they try it and try to do something even more depraved than what someone else did. Its like drugs. One hit of one type drug just isn't enough. People want cocktails round the clock.

Thank you, this is exactly what I was trying to say. I think in a way this stuff is like a drug and that before long, they can't get the same buzz so they have to go on to harder shit to even feel anything at all.

Oh, I don't know about that. Nothing on the internet is new. People have been doing these acts forever.

MacDaddy said:

JoeTyler said:

what's the point of fisting?

Am I wrong, or both the giver and the receiver must be INSANE in order to do it?

Like I said earlier in this thread, I fisted a guy once. And I consider myself to be pretty sane.

For me it was a one time experience. But if people are into it, you got my blessing.

yeah, yours was a case of "let's try it once", but you admitted that at first you thought it was DANGEROUS and you didn't like the experience overall...

but the people who does/receives it regularly... damn...

JoeTyler said:

MacDaddy said:

Like I said earlier in this thread, I fisted a guy once. And I consider myself to be pretty sane.

For me it was a one time experience. But if people are into it, you got my blessing.

yeah, yours was a case of "let's try it once", but you admitted that at first you thought it was DANGEROUS and you didn't like the experience overall...

but the people who does/receives it regularly... damn...

How is vaginal fisting "dangerous"?

JustErin said:

Spinlight said:

Exactly what point do you make to judge people's sexual proclivities?

I never understood sexual acts like fisting being compared to child abuse and bestiality.

It's acts between two consenting adults. Fucking babies and animals is not.

Tell that to the people who fuck babies and animals. I'm sure in their minds they had a long and thoughtful conversation. Anyway, the comparison only comes to play in that we're talking about what some people like and don't like. I can come up with a long list of sexual acts that I find disgusting and whether they are between consenting or non-consenting persons is irrelevant. You either like something or you don't. Bottom line.

HotGritz said:

JustErin said:

I never understood sexual acts like fisting being compared to child abuse and bestiality.

It's acts between two consenting adults. Fucking babies and animals is not.

Tell that to the people who fuck babies and animals. I'm sure in their minds they had a long and thoughtful conversation. Anyway, the comparison only comes to play in that we're talking about what some people like and don't like. I can come up with a long list of sexual acts that I find disgusting and whether they are between consenting or non-consenting persons is irrelevant. You either like something or you don't. Bottom line.

Actually, no.

Find fisting disgusting, that's fine. There are plenty of acts I find totally disgusting too...but you can't compare anything that is consenting to things that are not.

HotGritz said:

Spinlight said:

My point is that making broad spectrum comments doesn't actually come to any true conclusions. It's just iggnance. There's nothing wrong with sex given the partners are amicable, willing, capable adults.

What's the point of trying to dissect and overanalyze why someone likes sex? It's impossible to describe.

We're not talking about why someone likes sex or dissecting or overanalyzing sex in general. We are talking about fisting. A very specific and potentially harmful and IMO disgusting act. I aint gotta like it to talk about it. You may like somebody shitting in your mouth after eating garbage but if someone else says "that's disgusting" you want to feel offended? Come on now.

Oh, I'm not offended. I don't fist and it's not for me. I approach it with indifference, mostly.

Any activity can be dangerous. You know that. The assumption should not be that people who enjoy things different to you are anything but that - different. I don't get why the judgment enters the place. It shows ignorance about the topic, not that you should feel compelled to learn about fisting.

To be fair, the discussion has gone on for pages and pages with no real conclusions other than the fact that people like what they like, they explore things, and find new things they like. I can't really explain why someone would find fisting appealing, but I know plenty of people who've done it (both professionally and privately) and they are absolutely not fucked up people.

JustErin said:

armpit said:

Thank you, this is exactly what I was trying to say. I think in a way this stuff is like a drug and that before long, they can't get the same buzz so they have to go on to harder shit to even feel anything at all.

Oh, I don't know about that. Nothing on the internet is new. People have been doing these acts forever.

Go back a few posts. I never said it was new. I said this sort of thing wasn't as prevalent in the past, which is true. It's only in like the last ten years or so that everybody wants to do anal, piss on people, fist people, get tied up and everything else of that sort. When you factor in that it's only in the last decade or so that people have had constant, easy access to porn the way they have, it's pretty easy to see the correlation and how life is starting to imitate 'art'.

HotGritz said:

JustErin said:

I never understood sexual acts like fisting being compared to child abuse and bestiality.

It's acts between two consenting adults. Fucking babies and animals is not.

Tell that to the people who fuck babies and animals. I'm sure in their minds they had a long and thoughtful conversation. Anyway, the comparison only comes to play in that we're talking about what some people like and don't like. I can come up with a long list of sexual acts that I find disgusting and whether they are between consenting or non-consenting persons is irrelevant. You either like something or you don't. Bottom line.

Are you gonna compare gay sex to beastiality and pedophilia now too? lol.

JustErin said:

HotGritz said:

Tell that to the people who fuck babies and animals. I'm sure in their minds they had a long and thoughtful conversation. Anyway, the comparison only comes to play in that we're talking about what some people like and don't like. I can come up with a long list of sexual acts that I find disgusting and whether they are between consenting or non-consenting persons is irrelevant. You either like something or you don't. Bottom line.

Actually, no.

Find fisting disgusting, that's fine. There are plenty of acts I find totally disgusting too...but you can't compare anything that is consenting to things that are not.

Actually, I can do whatever I want. In fact, I just did.

Ooh look, I'm going to do it again:

Fisting is just as gross as fucking a dead person.

See! Its so easy really.

JustErin said:

JoeTyler said:

yeah, yours was a case of "let's try it once", but you admitted that at first you thought it was DANGEROUS and you didn't like the experience overall...

but the people who does/receives it regularly... damn...

How is vaginal fisting "dangerous"?

the guy could destroy/tear off your bowels once he has "fisted" his hand down there...

JoeTyler said:

JustErin said:

How is vaginal fisting "dangerous"?

the guy could destroy/tear off your bowels once he has "fisted" his hand down there...

That does not make fisting dangerous.

Spinlight said:

HotGritz said:

Tell that to the people who fuck babies and animals. I'm sure in their minds they had a long and thoughtful conversation. Anyway, the comparison only comes to play in that we're talking about what some people like and don't like. I can come up with a long list of sexual acts that I find disgusting and whether they are between consenting or non-consenting persons is irrelevant. You either like something or you don't. Bottom line.

Are you gonna compare gay sex to beastiality and pedophilia now too? lol.

Fisting is gay sex? Never knew that. Why is the OP mentioning some woman with an entire outfit shoved up her cooch? You saying she's gay? Gee thanx for letting me how special and unique you are. All this time I thought you were..ya know...merely human.

Spinlight said:

JoeTyler said:

the guy could destroy/tear off your bowels once he has "fisted" his hand down there...

That does not make fisting dangerous.

of course not...

Spinlight said:

JoeTyler said:

the guy could destroy/tear off your bowels once he has "fisted" his hand down there...

That does not make fisting dangerous.

tearing off someone's bowels is not dangerous? are you for real right now? we had a guy in our highschool who got raped and had his colon severed. he had to have surgery. WTF U TALKIN' BOUT WILLIS?

HotGritz said:

Spinlight said:

Are you gonna compare gay sex to beastiality and pedophilia now too? lol.

Fisting is gay sex? Never knew that. Why is the OP mentioning some woman with an entire outfit shoved up her cooch? You saying she's gay? Gee thanx for letting me how special and unique you are. All this time I thought you were..ya know...merely human.

You did not, don't lie.

Anyway, I'm simply following the mentality. It's something you don't understand or get, so its immediately paired with unconsentual sex. Lovely. Well, Republicans pair up gay sex and other "deviant" behavior all the time.

But you're different in that respect, how?

HotGritz said:

Spinlight said:

That does not make fisting dangerous.

tearing off someone's bowels is not dangerous? are you for real right now? we had a guy in our highschool who got raped and had his colon severed. he had to have surgery. WTF U TALKIN' BOUT WILLIS?

That's not what I said. I said that that sort of thing happening does not make the behavior itself dangerous. Do you actively consider driving a car dangerous? Operating a microwave? Taking a shower? Dying your hair? Eating foods you don't make? Tons of things in life can have bad outcomes. That does not taint the activity.

Isn't it considered as TORTURE porn, anyway?

JoeTyler said:

Isn't it considered as TORTURE porn, anyway?

This is touching on what I said about ignorance.

Fisting is not torture porn.

TORTURE is torture porn.

Fisting is not torture no matter how much you do not like it.

Spinlight said:

JoeTyler said:

Isn't it considered as TORTURE porn, anyway?

This is touching on what I said about ignorance.

Fisting is not torture porn.

TORTURE is torture porn.

Fisting is not torture no matter how much you do not like it.

could someone post an useful link about HOW MUCH can an ass/pussy receive before it gets severed, and/or destroyed?

don't women CRY AND SHOUT when they're giving birth? why? because the baby is soooo small, right?

JoeTyler said:

Spinlight said:

This is touching on what I said about ignorance.

Fisting is not torture porn.

TORTURE is torture porn.

Fisting is not torture no matter how much you do not like it.

could someone post an useful link about HOW MUCH can an ass/pussy receive before it gets severed, and/or destroyed?

don't women CRY AND SHOUT when they're giving birth? why? because the baby is soooo small, right?

There's a lot more going on during labor tha just that, first of all.

Second of all, I never said the practice was not involved and delicate.

Third of all, why is it so hard for you to grasp things you don't readily understand? Go educate yourself and err on the side of being less judgmental about what people do in the privacy of their own homes between consenting adults.

Seems to me some of you have a hard time believing things YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND could possibly be appealing.

JoeTyler said:

MacDaddy said:

Like I said earlier in this thread, I fisted a guy once. And I consider myself to be pretty sane.

For me it was a one time experience. But if people are into it, you got my blessing.

yeah, yours was a case of "let's try it once", but you admitted that at first you thought it was DANGEROUS and you didn't like the experience overall...

but the people who does/receives it regularly... damn...

I did not say I thought it was dangerous, I was inexperienced and was afraid to hurt the guy. he knew exactly how it should be done and showed me. I also didn't say I didn't like it. It's just not what turns me on, but the feeling was pretty intense, and not in a bad way. Especially since I really liked the guy and he was sweet as fuck. And butch like a motherfucker at the same time.

Spinlight said:

JoeTyler said:

Isn't it considered as TORTURE porn, anyway?

This is touching on what I said about ignorance.

Fisting is not torture porn.

TORTURE is torture porn.

Fisting is not torture no matter how much you do not like it.

Spinlight said:

HotGritz said:

Fisting is gay sex? Never knew that. Why is the OP mentioning some woman with an entire outfit shoved up her cooch? You saying she's gay? Gee thanx for letting me how special and unique you are. All this time I thought you were..ya know...merely human.

You did not, don't lie.

Anyway, I'm simply following the mentality. It's something you don't understand or get, so its immediately paired with unconsentual sex. Lovely. Well, Republicans pair up gay sex and other "deviant" behavior all the time.

But you're different in that respect, how?

I did not what? What are you saying? That only gays fist? Man you ought to get out of the house more. But eh whatever...if you want to own fisting and call it a strictly gay act then by all means, knock yaself out.

BTW anybody ever tell you that you read way too much into stuff sometimes? Are you feeling inadequate? Guilty maybe? Why does it bother you so much that someone else doesn't dig fisting? Why do you give a fart what a republican thinks? Besides I thought you were the one itching to fuck a well known retarded republican.