A new school year has started for my kids.

Two years ago I happily transferred my daughter out of a school to the same school her brother goes to. One reason for doing so, (besides convenience) is that she went to school with two girls that KEPT lice year round for two years and various rashes and infections including ringworm and cold sores.

These two little damn girls LOVE my daughter. They see her and run to her and hug her up.

I cringe everytime.

I teach my daughter to be polite, but recently these two little nasty girls have now transferred to our school and they are even in the same class.

One little girl has a coldsore on her lip... and another right on her cheek that was over an inch wide.

The other has no visible lice, but she smells like she really needs to wash and mind you, we are only 3 days into the new school year. These girls will progressively get worse.

I told my daughter to fist bump for greetings and NOT to hug. But these little girls still run up on my daughter and still kiss her and want to touch her. They are soooo nasty.

What do I do.. is it OK to hurt their feelings by explaining I do NOT want my daughter to catch another rash from them? They like her and are sweet girls but they are so nasty. I am angry at their mothers and upset my daughter is in the same class as them.

In their former school they re-infected the school with lice the entire time my daughter attended the school and you could actually see the lice crawling on on of the girls head since they grew to maturity and were dark brown in color with long abdomens. GROSS. There were covering her hairline.

total heebee geebees when I see them.

paintedlady said:

A new school year has started for my kids.

Two years ago I happily transferred my daughter out of a school to the same school her brother goes to. One reason for doing so, (besides convenience) is that she went to school with two girls that KEPT lice year round for two years and various rashes and infections including ringworm and cold sores.

These two little damn girls LOVE my daughter. They see her and run to her and hug her up.

I cringe everytime.

I teach my daughter to be polite, but recently these two little nasty girls have now transferred to our school and they are even in the same class.

One little girl has a coldsore on her lip... and another right on her cheek that was over an inch wide.

The other has no visible lice, but she smells like she really needs to wash and mind you, we are only 3 days into the new school year. These girls will progressively get worse.

I told my daughter to fist bump for greetings and NOT to hug. But these little girls still run up on my daughter and still kiss her and want to touch her. They are soooo nasty.

What do I do.. is it OK to hurt their feelings by explaining I do NOT want my daughter to catch another rash from them? They like her and are sweet girls but they are so nasty. I am angry at their mothers and upset my daughter is in the same class as them.

In their former school they re-infected the school with lice the entire time my daughter attended the school and you could actually see the lice crawling on on of the girls head since they grew to maturity and were dark brown in color with long abdomens. GROSS. There were covering her hairline.

total heebee geebees when I see them.

I'd say your child's health trumps another child's feelings 10 times out of 10. Might sound harsh, but you know those people we discuss on here that come to work smelling like doo-doo? This is where it starts. You can prevent it. Godspeed.

Is the administration at your daughter's school aware of the problems with these girls? If not, I'd apprise them of the situation. Maybe they can institute a blanket "no hugging or touching" policy. Someone (do they have school nurses, anymore?) needs to tell those little girls that they shouldn't hug or kiss anyone when they have a sore of any kind. And no sharing combs or hats or any items of apparel.

It'd be much better coming from the school administration than from you or your daughter. It's a public health issue.

And honestly, it sounds like an investigation into child neglect might not be amiss.

FauxReal said:

paintedlady said:

A new school year has started for my kids.

Two years ago I happily transferred my daughter out of a school to the same school her brother goes to. One reason for doing so, (besides convenience) is that she went to school with two girls that KEPT lice year round for two years and various rashes and infections including ringworm and cold sores.

These two little damn girls LOVE my daughter. They see her and run to her and hug her up.

I cringe everytime.

I teach my daughter to be polite, but recently these two little nasty girls have now transferred to our school and they are even in the same class.

One little girl has a coldsore on her lip... and another right on her cheek that was over an inch wide.

The other has no visible lice, but she smells like she really needs to wash and mind you, we are only 3 days into the new school year. These girls will progressively get worse.

I told my daughter to fist bump for greetings and NOT to hug. But these little girls still run up on my daughter and still kiss her and want to touch her. They are soooo nasty.

What do I do.. is it OK to hurt their feelings by explaining I do NOT want my daughter to catch another rash from them? They like her and are sweet girls but they are so nasty. I am angry at their mothers and upset my daughter is in the same class as them.

In their former school they re-infected the school with lice the entire time my daughter attended the school and you could actually see the lice crawling on on of the girls head since they grew to maturity and were dark brown in color with long abdomens. GROSS. There were covering her hairline.

total heebee geebees when I see them.

I'd say your child's health trumps another child's feelings 10 times out of 10. Might sound harsh, but you know those people we discuss on here that come to work smelling like doo-doo? This is where it starts. You can prevent it. Godspeed.

One of the little girls smells like that already.. she really smells like butt and poop.

Why do they let a little girl smell like that?

They are pretty girls... wear cute clothes and stink like -ish.

Both mothers have ongoing cases with the department of child services. Yes... I called them on one of the mother's before because the baby brother (10 months at the time) had lice in his eyebrows and around his ears and was drinking what looked like curdled milk from a filthy bottle.

Turns out he was also suffering from foot and mouth disease at the time.

A call to child protective services? They're not healthy at all. I've never seen such a thing during the whole time my kids were in school, maybe a kid catching a cold more often than others but that's about it. I can't even imagine the staff at the elementary school my kids went to even tolerating such things. If your daughter has no problem asking them not to hug and touch, then she should be free to tell them not to. Time to bring up to the PTA.

it's not really about hurting feelings. i'd approach the school nurse about this. good luck

JustErin said:

Don't talk to the kids, talk to the parent(s).

I did, both mother's are ghetto as hell. I gave one a Rid kit and money before.

I like her girls and if I had room I would actually raise those girls myself. They are BAD. Really nasty.

paintedlady said:

FauxReal said:

I'd say your child's health trumps another child's feelings 10 times out of 10. Might sound harsh, but you know those people we discuss on here that come to work smelling like doo-doo? This is where it starts. You can prevent it. Godspeed.

One of the little girls smells like that already.. she really smells like butt and poop.

Why do they let a little girl smell like that?

They are pretty girls... wear cute clothes and stink like -ish.

Both mothers have ongoing cases with the department of child services. Yes... I called them on one of the mother's before because the baby brother (10 months at the time) had lice in his eyebrows and around his ears and was drinking what looked like curdled milk from a filthy bottle.

Turns out he was also suffering from foot and mouth disease at the time.

...what the fuck. Some people are disgusting. And I don't mean that about the kids, it ain't their fault.

Genesia said:

Is the administration at your daughter's school aware of the problems with these girls? If not, I'd apprise them of the situation. Maybe they can institute a blanket "no hugging or touching" policy. Someone (do they have school nurses, anymore?) needs to tell those little girls that they shouldn't hug or kiss anyone when they have a sore of any kind. And no sharing combs or hats or any items of apparel.

It'd be much better coming from the school administration than from you or your daughter. It's a public health issue.

And honestly, it sounds like an investigation into child neglect might not be amiss.

Those girls are neglected. I suspect drug use is in play because both moms are young and are friends. Both girls have constant issues.

The last school I was in with them I had to fight the pricipal to get them suspended because they let the girls get on the school bus with lice crawling all over them. The lice were clearly visible and it was ongoing for over 3 months.

All the kids were teasing the girls and the girls were in tears.

XxAxX said:

it's not really about hurting feelings. i'd approach the school nurse about this. good luck

Public school.... no school nurse this year. No funding.

morningsong said:

A call to child protective services? They're not healthy at all. I've never seen such a thing during the whole time my kids were in school, maybe a kid catching a cold more often than others but that's about it. I can't even imagine the staff at the elementary school my kids went to even tolerating such things. If your daughter has no problem asking them not to hug and touch, then she should be free to tell them not to. Time to bring up to the PTA.

I am afraid I have to call again if I keep seeing them.

As soon as I saw the girls in the playground my heart sank.

I am on the school councel, they have been informed, what they decide to do time will only tell.

It is a small public school of only 280 children.

I suspect the girls were kicked out of their previous school.

Whatever people are currently doing about it, it ain't enough. If they are still showing up smelling like poop with bugs living on their faces and erupting sores on their mouthes, I'm pretty sure there is a serious, very serious, issue here that mayhaps the police may need to get involved in. This is the kind of neglect that leads to a child dying.

If it is truly as disgusting as you are describing it to be, there is simply no other answer but to tell you to do something about it. And not with the kids because the kids can't do shit to help themselves. You need to get serious people involved to handle what is a serious health risk/danger.

Just my 2 cents.

paintedlady said:

XxAxX said:

it's not really about hurting feelings. i'd approach the school nurse about this. good luck

Public school.... no school nurse this year. No funding.

oh wow. in that case maybe the teacher would know. i'd let the school handle it, since this is where contact happens. i hope this works out well for everyone

To the school board? There's got to be something, I mean they will kick a kid out of school for not having their vaccinations up to date. In order to have vaccinations you have to see a doctor, and a doctor looking at a child in that condition I would imagine would have a lot of pull.

Its all the parents fault.

get a group of parents together who feel the same way and discuss it with the two girls parents.

If it's just you confronting them they'll feel like your just being petty but if it's a group of parents they will get the point.

Oh and my daughter does have a problem asking them not to hug her, she's meek and quiet. She won't say a word to them about not hugging her. I told her to NOT let them do that and she does let them everytime.

She even lets them kiss her on the cheek.

Spinlight said:

Whatever people are currently doing about it, it ain't enough. If they are still showing up smelling like poop with bugs living on their faces and erupting sores on their mouthes, I'm pretty sure there is a serious, very serious, issue here that mayhaps the police may need to get involved in. This is the kind of neglect that leads to a child dying.

If it is truly as disgusting as you are describing it to be, there is simply no other answer but to tell you to do something about it. And not with the kids because the kids can't do shit to help themselves. You need to get serious people involved to handle what is a serious health risk/danger.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree seems like another call to DSS (Department of Social Services) is in order.

Those poor girls.

paintedlady said:

Spinlight said:

Whatever people are currently doing about it, it ain't enough. If they are still showing up smelling like poop with bugs living on their faces and erupting sores on their mouthes, I'm pretty sure there is a serious, very serious, issue here that mayhaps the police may need to get involved in. This is the kind of neglect that leads to a child dying.

If it is truly as disgusting as you are describing it to be, there is simply no other answer but to tell you to do something about it. And not with the kids because the kids can't do shit to help themselves. You need to get serious people involved to handle what is a serious health risk/danger.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree seems like another call to DSS (Department of Social Services) is in order.

Those poor girls.

It's just maddening and completely sad. I can't even imagine how messed up in the head you have to be to allow that kind of filth and vileness to creep up into your kids like that.

I really hope those girls get some help. That's just fucked up in so many ways.

paintedlady said:

Genesia said:

Is the administration at your daughter's school aware of the problems with these girls? If not, I'd apprise them of the situation. Maybe they can institute a blanket "no hugging or touching" policy. Someone (do they have school nurses, anymore?) needs to tell those little girls that they shouldn't hug or kiss anyone when they have a sore of any kind. And no sharing combs or hats or any items of apparel.

It'd be much better coming from the school administration than from you or your daughter. It's a public health issue.

And honestly, it sounds like an investigation into child neglect might not be amiss.

Those girls are neglected. I suspect drug use is in play because both moms are young and are friends. Both girls have constant issues.

The last school I was in with them I had to fight the pricipal to get them suspended because they let the girls get on the school bus with lice crawling all over them. The lice were clearly visible and it was ongoing for over 3 months.

All the kids were teasing the girls and the girls were in tears.

that's a shame ...all i can do is shake my head right now

Bad parents make me sick to my stomach..

Call social services Plady.

paintedlady said:

Spinlight said:

Whatever people are currently doing about it, it ain't enough. If they are still showing up smelling like poop with bugs living on their faces and erupting sores on their mouthes, I'm pretty sure there is a serious, very serious, issue here that mayhaps the police may need to get involved in. This is the kind of neglect that leads to a child dying.

If it is truly as disgusting as you are describing it to be, there is simply no other answer but to tell you to do something about it. And not with the kids because the kids can't do shit to help themselves. You need to get serious people involved to handle what is a serious health risk/danger.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree seems like another call to DSS (Department of Social Services) is in order.

Those poor girls.

You'd be doing them a favor, giving them a chance. And yeah, trying to make children not be friendly and loving when it's their nature is a rough one. I can imagine you pulling your hair out.

But see... that's the thing...

ALL that stuff happened at the OLD school... not now. This school year just started and one has coldsores on her face.

No lice YET. But I still do NOT want my daughter to be around these girls. Its a new school for these little girls and they only know my daughter from the old school. So when they saw her they wanted to cling to her.

I think I will have to discourage this... I told the teacher and two members of the school counsel. I will also speak with the school's parent coordinator to make sure she keeps and eye on the girls ongoing health issues.

So do I wait to see if something happens this year? Or just jump to telling the moms to keep the kids the hell away from mine?

OH... the moms are NEVER in the school yard nor do they walk their daughters to o5 from school.

The girls are both 9 years old and cling to eachother.

Why not! Thats what humans do right?!What humans r good at!Excel at!!

social services should be called.

BlackAdder7 said:

social services should be called.

Right now before I start seeing stuff crawling on the girls again?

davetherave6767 said:

Why not! Thats what humans do right?!What humans r good at!Excel at!!

Don't get yourself upset Dave... I wouldn't want your face to bloom again.

I remember in the 3rd grade, there was this one girl who lived with her grandmom.

I still remember the way the girl looked. She smelled like death. I mean, she smelled

so horrible that the teacher could even smell her from up front in the classroom.

The teacher called the grandmother, and I remember the two of them in the hallway

talking with the girl beside her. It was the strangest thing I ever saw. We were going

between classes after the bell rang, but I sort of stood nearby to eavesdrop.

Apparently the girl never bathed and the grandmother didn't pay too much attention

to such things, thinking that the girl would take care them herself.

The grandmom promissed to ensure that she bathe everyday.

From that day on the girl stopped smelling aweful, though her hair

went from an oily sheen that laid flat against her head to a fluffy

cowlicky mess, and her dresses occasionally smelled like Mrs.

Havisham's closet.

The moral of the story is never take laxatives and sleeping pills at

the same time, but also have the teachers speak to the parents (or

do it yourself). It's as much about public health as it is about anything else.

imago said:

I remember in the 3rd grade, there was this one girl who lived with her grandmom.

I still remember the way the girl looked. She smelled like death. I mean, she smelled

so horrible that the teacher could even smell her from up front in the classroom.

The teacher called the grandmother, and I remember the two of them in the hallway

talking with the girl beside her. It was the strangest thing I ever saw. We were going

between classes after the bell rang, but I sort of stood nearby to eavesdrop.

Apparently the girl never bathed and the grandmother didn't pay too much attention

to such things, thinking that the girl would take care them herself.

The grandmom promissed to ensure that she bathe everyday.

From that day on the girl stopped smelling aweful, though her hair

went from an oily sheen that laid flat against her head to a fluffy

cowlicky mess, and her dresses occasionally smelled like Mrs.

Havisham's closet.

The moral of the story is never take laxatives and sleeping pills at

the same time, but also have the teachers speak to the parents (or

do it yourself). It's as much about public health as it is about anything else.

Ms. Meadows was informed. (the teacher)

But she told me she would keep and eye on the girls since the school year just started.

I think I may just have to make a phone call to make sure the girls are OK at home.

paintedlady said:

But see... that's the thing...

ALL that stuff happened at the OLD school... not now. This school year just started and one has coldsores on her face.

No lice YET. But I still do NOT want my daughter to be around these girls. Its a new school for these little girls and they only know my daughter from the old school. So when they saw her they wanted to cling to her.

I think I will have to discourage this... I told the teacher and two members of the school counsel. I will also speak with the school's parent coordinator to make sure she keeps and eye on the girls ongoing health issues.

So do I wait to see if something happens this year? Or just jump to telling the moms to keep the kids the hell away from mine?

OH... the moms are NEVER in the school yard nor do they walk their daughters to o5 from school.

The girls are both 9 years old and cling to eachother.

Now this is where you have the power of the moms (inc.), there is always one in the bunch (speaking kids) who has no problem not being so nice, which may influence you daughter a bit when you're not able to. Since you're daughter has already been to that school, I'm sure she's formed some sort of group of friends and I'm sure their moms would be just as concerned as you are. All this sounds so cruel, but when it comes down to health issues, sense trumps being nice. Those girls will probably have to learn how to fend for themselves, since grown folks aren't stepping up to the plate. Now I'm sad.

paintedlady said:

davetherave6767 said:

Why not! Thats what humans do right?!What humans r good at!Excel at!!

Don't get yourself upset Dave... I wouldn't want your face to bloom again.

My face 2 bloom....