shorttrini said:

uPtoWnNY said:

I would and I have. That shit is inexcusable. Can you imagine what is was like for those poor kids in their final moments? I'd go insane if that happened in my family.

If there is a Hell, I hope that woman is burning in it.

While I will agree with you about her actions, I would also place the majority of the blame on her husband. Despite his denial,(done to save face), he knew that she had a problem and because of that I would have HIM arrested for aiding and abetting a criminal. He should be fitted with gasoline drawers and given a first class ticket to the burning gates, just on general principle.

[Edited 7/29/11 5:12am]

I know right. Honestly I think the police were actually trying to get something on him (especially with the alcohol part) but they couldn't since they couldn't link that bottle to him someway somehow. I read the actual police report of the accident and they interviewed him multiple times.

But we will never find out what happened in those last moments INSIDE the van until her son gets older. I think the memories are deeply rooted in him but he's just so young right now and still coping.

Plus he is being influenced by his father. Who knows what he is telling him about the accident and about his mother's state of mind, during it.

Before this horrible crash, there was the case of Leandra Rosado. She was killed in a crash by her friend's mother, who drove drunk after a party. This led to 'Leandra's Law'.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...1151.shtml

uPtoWnNY said:

Before this horrible crash, there was the case of Leandra Rosado. She was killed in a crash by her friend's mother, who drove drunk after a party. This led to 'Leandra's Law'.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...1151.shtml

WTF are people thinking?

missfee said:

LadyLuvSexxy said:

This family either didn't know because she was so good at hiding it, or are trying to perpetuate her image. It's all fallen apart anyway. As soon as they brought up tunnel vision, that was a done deal for me. TUNNEL VISION on an open road! And then, those tooth issues can become very serious. People don't realize how much an abcess can really do to you if it's not taken care of. Boozing up and toking will not fix it. Now, when they showed that picture of her, I froze. I felt sick, but I could not move. My eyes were literally on the screen and I was glued to my chair. When that older gentleman said he cried on top of the hill, that's when I lost it.

What bothers me so much about this is her issues with her mother and her desires for perfectionism. The fact that her siblings forgave their mother and she could not also played a deep role in this. I guarantee you that drinking wasn't just to soothe the pains of her teeth. I believe that strive to be perfect with her clouded mind may have played a part in the delirium which cost so many people their lives.

I was also rooting for her husband until well...he started talking and I started to remember seeing him on Larry King. He is in deep, SELFISH denial and something about his eyes and body language give me a vibe that something isn't quite right within him. Almost like his agenda/priorities are all mixed up here. While I wouldn't go so far as to calling his wife some of the things I've read on other message boards, he has to accept the fact that this "perfect mother" had skeletons in her closet, and a medical issue which apperently severely plagued her. Why she couldn't get off the money and get over the pain is beyond me.

It reminds me of all the erratic drivers I've seen on the road in my life. Not knowing their stories, but wondering why they're on the road. Praying to GOD they don't do something to put the rest of us in danger. If only she'd pull over and stayed put. If only she'd kept that phone. Damn, I could go through a list of "if only" and maybe those other children would still be here....

It's awfully ironic how she couldn't forgive her mother for what she did and now she has gone and took those kids away from here and it seems her brother and his wife haven't quite forgiven HER for that...and understandably so. Seems to me she should had been in counseling or something, but according to the family and friends, judging her personality that was most likely out of the question. But like you said it's something really up with the husband in all of this. I was shocked that (at the time of filming the docu) that he hadn't even set up his son to talk to a therapist yet!!! Are you kidding???!!! It's like deep down he could care less but he's doing all this suing to get some money so he won't have to work. How much you want to bet he was probably out there running around while his "breadwinning", marijana smoking, alcoholic, workaholic wife was bending over backwards trying to maintain their "perfect" life. Did you hear near the end what his sister-in-law said? That he told her he "never wanted kids anyway, that was supposed to had been Diane's thing". Huh? I don't care how frustrated and how much in grief you are, how can you say something so harsh like that?

I still think they aren't paying attention to that gas station tape close enough, because in my eyes, she was acting peculiar when she walked in and then rushed back out.

Totally shocked as well. When my mother died, that was one of the many things my father set up. He had a friend who was a child therapist, and she and I just sat down and talked about everything, even though I was only about 3 at the time. I still remember her asking me how I felt. I wanted to slap the father for doing that and acting the way he was. I can understand grief making people do some offbeat things, but his selfish attitude goes way beyond any form of grief.

YES! I know those things are by the second/every three seconds, but the fact that she couldn't search the aisles sort of stuck in my head, too the second time I re-watched that part. I know most gas stations these days refrain from keeping their drugs in the aisles, but some of them will have the hanging 2-capsule packets or have a tiny drug nook right there in view next to feminine supplies or first aid kit re-fills. To me, it looked like she asked a quick question, got an answer, but didn't stick around long enough to hear it. That pain was running the show, it seems.

I watched this and was COMPLETELY perplexed. NOTHING adds up here.

The only conclusins I can draw is that she was on a suicide mission. Drunk and high and quite deliberately doing exactly what she shouldn't be with death being the most probable outcome. I think she went in that gas station looking for hard liquor and couldn't find none there.

I think her and her husband had some kind of discussion or at some point was confronted with a discussion about her mother with a family member and cracked. The issue with her mother seemed to be a HUGE elephant in the room that no one ever addressed. Especially the mother. For her to NEVER...NEVER have discused this mother issue means it was MASSIVE. Probably even had a commitment with her best frind to never discuss it. Her best friend respectfully honored this wish as a good friend should.

Another small anomoly was the statement that the husband had never wanted kids. I think that was more of a reactionary statement to the situation he was in. Cuz U ask my dad if he wanted kids, and he probably would say no too. My ma made that move(no, not decietfully, but just pressed the issue while we was trying to hold off, usuccessfully.) I think a lot of husbands don't want kids to some small degree and that memory can become poisoinous when your wife and a child and neicese(sp? lol) are gone.

any other eplanation I can think of seems illogical. This is the most logical conclusin I can deduce.

BobGeorge909 said:

I watched this and was COMPLETELY perplexed. NOTHING adds up here.

The only conclusins I can draw is that she was on a suicide mission. Drunk and high and quite deliberately doing exactly what she shouldn't be with death being the most probable outcome. I think she went in that gas station looking for hard liquor and couldn't find none there.

I think her and her husband had some kind of discussion or at some point was confronted with a discussion about her mother with a family member and cracked. The issue with her mother seemed to be a HUGE elephant in the room that no one ever addressed. Especially the mother. For her to NEVER...NEVER have discused this mother issue means it was MASSIVE. Probably even had a commitment with her best frind to never discuss it. Her best friend respectfully honored this wish as a good friend should.

Another small anomoly was the statement that the husband had never wanted kids. I think that was more of a reactionary statement to the situation he was in. Cuz U ask my dad if he wanted kids, and he probably would say no too. My ma made that move(no, not decietfully, but just pressed the issue while we was trying to hold off, usuccessfully.) I think a lot of husbands don't want kids to some small degree and that memory can become poisoinous when your wife and a child and neicese(sp? lol) are gone.

any other eplanation I can think of seems illogical. This is the most logical conclusin I can deduce.

And thats why she walked straight in and then walked straight out. I knew I wasn't the only one that felt that she didn't exactly look as if she was looking for over the counter meds.

Totally agree. It only makes sense that she and her husband had some words between leaving that campsite and getting into their vehicles to leave. Why else would he had not called her cell at least to see if she and the kids were okay, especially if they should had been home right after leaving the McDonald's? And she didn't call him either...why? Because they have to have had an argument of some sorts before parting, thats why. The husband has to be straight up lying that everything was okay and fine. Something that was said set her off and your conclusions seem to hit right on.

I thought it was tasteful for her best friend to have kept the reason why her mother left the family under wraps too as well, unlike her ex-friends who had the audacity to sit up there, in front of the camera and speculate as to why her mother left.."I think her mother ran off with some man, a neighbor I think". That was wrong.

I agree with your assessment that the woman was on a suicide mission as well. I just really hate that she had to involve kids in her demise. If you want to do something like that, they just drop the kids off somewhere WITH YOUR CELL so that they can reach their parents and then you drive off and you do what you need to do. But no, she chose to involve not only her own kids but her ALL of her brother's kids as well as endangering the lives of strangers. Even the witnesses said that it appeared from the way she was driving that she was on a suicide mission.

I ws suprised they showed the accident/crime scene photo's. Wasn't expecting that, it threw me.

BobGeorge909 said:

I ws suprised they showed the accident/crime scene photo's. Wasn't expecting that, it threw me.

Who you telling? That's why I couldn't go to sleep that night. I wonder who gave the green light on that cause I could have done without it.

missfee said:

BobGeorge909 said:

I ws suprised they showed the accident/crime scene photo's. Wasn't expecting that, it threw me.

Who you telling? That's why I couldn't go to sleep that night. I wonder who gave the green light on that cause I could have done without it.

yeah. I didn't hit the dvr replay on that one.

it did put a grim face on the reality of what happened without doing it with the victims. It was just her they showed.

BobGeorge909 said:

missfee said:

Who you telling? That's why I couldn't go to sleep that night. I wonder who gave the green light on that cause I could have done without it.

yeah. I didn't hit the dvr replay on that one.

it did put a grim face on the reality of what happened without doing it with the victims. It was just her they showed.

I just find it ironic how one day after this originally aired on HBO last week that new lawsuits were being thrown left and right.