paintedlady said:

Hell, after today... I am all for not having my kids around you nasty assed adults.

Seen a woman I grew up with, she is at least 5 years older than me, salivating at my son saying shit like ....

"Oh he's 11? I'll be coming by in 10 years to break him in! He is soooo handsome. "

Nasty whore. Weirdo slut, can't you stop thinking about your gross lonely dried up old pussy for two seconds to behave properly around someone's child? WTF??? Who says that to a mother of a child? Like that crap is OK? Where's Chris Hansen?

That's disgusting.

Umm Chris Hansen is having his own issues @ the moment.

I seem to attract bad ass kids In public so I have mixed feelings about this.

Im a bad ass kid magnet.

Please get your kid away from me Lady. CONTROL YOUR GOD DAMN KIDS MISS LADY!!

TELL THAT LITTLE BRAT TO STOP THROWIN THAT BALL AROUND MY FEET.

OH NO THIS TWERP DIDNT JUST THROW CANDY AT MY FACE!

I would never say this out loud but this is what goes through my head during badass kid encounters.

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lazycrockett said:

Umm Chris Hansen is having his own issues @ the moment.

Still... I need someone to catch a predator.

Fauxie said:

paintedlady said:

Hell, after today... I am all for not having my kids around you nasty assed adults.

Seen a woman I grew up with, she is at least 5 years older than me, salivating at my son saying shit like ....

"Oh he's 11? I'll be coming by in 10 years to break him in! He is soooo handsome. "

Nasty whore. Weirdo slut, can't you stop thinking about your gross lonely dried up old pussy for two seconds to behave properly around someone's child? WTF??? Who says that to a mother of a child? Like that crap is OK? Where's Chris Hansen?

That's disgusting.

It is, and I didn't even know how to respond. I guess she thought she was paying my son a compliment? To me it was sick.

formallypickles said:

I seem to attract bad ass kids In public so I have mixed feelings about this.

Im a bad ass kid magnet.

Please get your kid away from me Lady. CONTROL YOUR GOD DAMN KIDS MISS LADY!!

TELL THAT LITTLE BRAT TO STOP THROWIN THAT BALL AROUND MY FEET.

OH NO THIS TWERP DIDNT JUST THROW CANDY AT MY FACE!

I would never say this out loud but this is what goes through my head during badass kid encounters.

[Edited 8/11/11 0:27am]

You need to give that "Mahfuggah, don't play with me, I am not your momma and I will hurt you" look.

Child will be like and leave you alone.

kids have an excuse THEY R KIDS and they need to learn how to behave in public... and in time they often do

ADULTS have no excuse, and some of the things i have seen adults do r quite disturbing

paintedlady said:

formallypickles said:

I seem to attract bad ass kids In public so I have mixed feelings about this.

Im a bad ass kid magnet.

Please get your kid away from me Lady. CONTROL YOUR GOD DAMN KIDS MISS LADY!!

TELL THAT LITTLE BRAT TO STOP THROWIN THAT BALL AROUND MY FEET.

OH NO THIS TWERP DIDNT JUST THROW CANDY AT MY FACE!

I would never say this out loud but this is what goes through my head during badass kid encounters.

[Edited 8/11/11 0:27am]

You need to give that "Mahfuggah, don't play with me, I am not your momma and I will hurt you" look.

Child will be like and leave you alone.

I try so hard Paintedlady. I really try hard to give them that mean don't play with me Look. Those devils see right through my BS. They know deep down im scared of them.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

If people could control their kids this wouldn't be an issue. But if you conrol them too much, it's child abuse.

On Sunday, me and my homie went to Cici's pizza to chill. We eatin pizza, but who is running around the damn place, 3 little kids. And no, not in the game room area, (yes there is an area for kids) these lil cats is all by the food grabbing plates and shit.

I'm with my homie like "no way could we do this when we younger and live to see another day."

Yup! When I use to watch my nephews,one of them decided to use the f-word toward me,while he was mad. I naturally went,and got the soap,not a bar of soap.I put some liquid soap on my finger,and stuck it in his mouth. He went to school the next day,and I guess mentioned it to someone,the next day CPS is knocking on my door.

My Mom use to do that to me when I was little (so I was told),and it did'nt hurt me one bit!

formallypickles said:

paintedlady said:

You need to give that "Mahfuggah, don't play with me, I am not your momma and I will hurt you" look.

Child will be like and leave you alone.

I try so hard Paintedlady. I really try hard to give them that mean don't play with me Look. Those devils see right through my BS. They know deep down im scared of them.

They smell the fear!

But really, most kids just need to be spoken to when they are like that. The little girls are easier but more mouthy... I deal with kids in the gardens I oversee. Some are a mess at first, but after a bit they always come around and love the structure and discipline.

I like kids... but one thing is for sure, the funniest thing is to see the mom or dad walk around with the same bad behaviors in FULL denial about their mess and wondering why their kids are all crazy.

paintedlady said:

Fauxie said:

That's disgusting.

It is, and I didn't even know how to respond. I guess she thought she was paying my son a compliment? To me it was sick.

I wouldn't know how to respond to that at all. I find it bad enough with strangers coming up and touching our 3 and a half year old nephew when we're out. He's the most gorgeous little boy and he's very affectionate when he knows and trusts someone, and even sometimes with new ppl, but sometimes he just doesn't like it. He pulls away and often tells them, basically, to bugger off! Ppl get their noses put out of joint and look at my wife and I like we should discipline or something, but I can't really fault him. He's cute but he's not a toy for anyone just to come up and touch and if he doesn't like someone doing it then that's up to him!

paintedlady said:

You need to give that "Mahfuggah, don't play with me, I am not your momma and I will hurt you" look.

Child will be like and leave you alone.

I don't think I'm an unreasonable person, but I'm all for kid free flights, restaurants, cinemas (god, especially cinemas!!), etc. Obviously not all of them but definately some.

I understand its a person's right to have a child, and good luck to anyone that does. But why should other people suffer just because of your choice to have a child? It's like if I really wanted to buy an expensive stereo and blow my eardrums outs with it, that's my choice...but it would be unreasonable to take said stereo out in public and disturb other people with it.

I know its not always a parents thought if their kid starts acting up in public, by where's the consideration for everyone else? I've worked hard all week, I've paid my taxes, I've not caused anyone any grief...then Friday night rolls round, I fancy eating out with the missus and my evenings ruined by someone else's kids. And the parents are like "Oh well, people will have to put up with it". I don't think so...!!

I had the same thing for 4 hours on a flight home one time. The brat in front spent the whole time screaming and kicking its chair. The parents couldn't give a toss! I came close to chucking it out the nearest window!!

Rant over

I do not understand parents who don't give a toss perhaps parents who don't know what to do or parents who have already TRIED everything and failed, but not the parent who doesn't CARE.

I absolutely keep my kids away from anywhere they aren't welcome. I figure if I find them annoying (and I do, 90% of the time) then other people will too.

ZombieKitten said:

I do not understand parents who don't give a toss perhaps parents who don't know what to do or parents who have already TRIED everything and failed, but not the parent who doesn't CARE.

I absolutely keep my kids away from anywhere they aren't welcome. I figure if I find them annoying (and I do, 90% of the time) then other people will too.

Agreed. I make sure my kids do not impose on others. Its just the right thing to do so your children and everyone else has a pleasant experience and they are welcomed again.

IMHO I think people should learn to gage when the kids are gonna lose it and work in their child's schedule. If its gonna be a long day for the tikes, then take them somewhere they can unwind and be themselves. Kids get stressed out too, and their feelings should be taken into consideration. A little proper planning can save parents much grief.

Fauxie said:

paintedlady said:

It is, and I didn't even know how to respond. I guess she thought she was paying my son a compliment? To me it was sick.

I wouldn't know how to respond to that at all. I find it bad enough with strangers coming up and touching our 3 and a half year old nephew when we're out. He's the most gorgeous little boy and he's very affectionate when he knows and trusts someone, and even sometimes with new ppl, but sometimes he just doesn't like it. He pulls away and often tells them, basically, to bugger off! Ppl get their noses put out of joint and look at my wife and I like we should discipline or something, but I can't really fault him. He's cute but he's not a toy for anyone just to come up and touch and if he doesn't like someone doing it then that's up to him!

I don't like people to touch my kids. This lady I speak of patted my son on the head when she was spewing her lustful comments.

I don't like people touching my kids and I never discipline my kids when they don't want to be touched since that is a natural defense mechanism that will keep them safe later. I encourage that type of self-preservation in my children.

My son brushed her hand off his head and stepped away from her, I smiled at him approvingly.

We were creeped out, its ashame too, since the encounter started off as a lovely conversation with an otherwise nice woman I actually was happy to see... until.

MarySharon said:

paintedlady said:

You need to give that "Mahfuggah, don't play with me, I am not your momma and I will hurt you" look.

Child will be like and leave you alone.

Exactly!

paintedlady said:

ZombieKitten said:

I do not understand parents who don't give a toss perhaps parents who don't know what to do or parents who have already TRIED everything and failed, but not the parent who doesn't CARE.

I absolutely keep my kids away from anywhere they aren't welcome. I figure if I find them annoying (and I do, 90% of the time) then other people will too.

Agreed. I make sure my kids do not impose on others. Its just the right thing to do so your children and everyone else has a pleasant experience and they are welcomed again.

IMHO I think people should learn to gage when the kids are gonna lose it and work in their child's schedule. If its gonna be a long day for the tikes, then take them somewhere they can unwind and be themselves. Kids get stressed out too, and their feelings should be taken into consideration. A little proper planning can save parents much grief.

I think some times parents and adults seem to forget that small ppl need naps, down time and rest. I know mom's that cart their toddlers all over the place to run errands and play dates but never allow down time or naps for the children. I have had to tell family on several ocassions that we could not do certain things at certain times because I knew it would be too much for our toddler and it would just cause him to be over tired and/or over stimulated and then cause a problem.

So many parents that I know think that little kids don't need routine and they can stay up until 11pm because it fits the parents schedule.

I know my son and I know that he still needs his naps and down time. If he does not get those things he gets over tired and cranky.

I think it takes a balance though, some ppl think that children should not go anywhere that adults are but how are they supposed to learn how to behave and be around adults if you leave them at home every time you go out.

I would never take my son to a movie theatre or a place that was not kid friendly in some way.

I just feel lately that society as a whole does not want to be bothered by other ppls children or their own for that matter.

Weird because kids have been around for a long time, why are they suddenly such a burden?

Taking notes here I'm not a parent, but since I've had such a large part to play in raising my nephews, and right now our youngest nephew in particular, I've given a lot of thought to how I look after him. I think I've got a lot of things right, but maybe he's a little too spirited and been given too much freedom to cause merry havoc in the name of being free-thinking and independent and spontaneous. He seems like a kid that at times could be pissing a lot of you off in situations similar to those in this thread.

paintedlady said:

Fauxie said:

I wouldn't know how to respond to that at all. I find it bad enough with strangers coming up and touching our 3 and a half year old nephew when we're out. He's the most gorgeous little boy and he's very affectionate when he knows and trusts someone, and even sometimes with new ppl, but sometimes he just doesn't like it. He pulls away and often tells them, basically, to bugger off! Ppl get their noses put out of joint and look at my wife and I like we should discipline or something, but I can't really fault him. He's cute but he's not a toy for anyone just to come up and touch and if he doesn't like someone doing it then that's up to him!

I don't like people to touch my kids. This lady I speak of patted my son on the head when she was spewing her lustful comments.

I don't like people touching my kids and I never discipline my kids when they don't want to be touched since that is a natural defense mechanism that will keep them safe later. I encourage that type of self-preservation in my children.

My son brushed her hand off his head and stepped away from her, I smiled at him approvingly.

We were creeped out, its ashame too, since the encounter started off as a lovely conversation with an otherwise nice woman I actually was happy to see... until.

I'm happy to read this. Sometimes my nephew takes to ppl he doesn't know, but it's usually ppl who aren't touching him, or who maybe he senses we know well. Sometimes though it really seems to bother him when someone touches him and he says 'mai ao' (don't want) and tells them in quite an impolite way to go away. I wonder if ppl think this is rude, but I'm thinking it's ok, right? One lady we don't know well, but who lives around here in our village and he's seen many times insists on talking to him and touching his head and he hates it. She asks him about his dad and what's he doing, where are we going, and he just says 'no' in this (admittedly hilarious) disdainful way and tries to ignore her. In Thai culture it's really very disrespectful given her age. He says 'naa klua' to me, which means 'scary', and this lady does have a funny eye and looks a bit like a cartoon witch, but it seems to be more than that. She can't fail to see every time that he doesn't want her to talk to him and touch him, but it's like she's messing with him. I don't know whether I should step in and say something. It's not really a straight-forward thing for a young white guy to chastise an old lady in Thailand, and not easily done without her losing 'face' (and my wife too). Should I really give a shit though?

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[Edited 8/11/11 7:49am]

Fauxie said:

Taking notes here I'm not a parent, but since I've had such a large part to play in raising my nephews, and right now our youngest nephew in particular, I've given a lot of thought to how I look after him. I think I've got a lot of things right, but maybe he's a little too spirited and been given too much freedom to cause merry havoc in the name of being free-thinking and independent and spontaneous. He seems like a kid that at times could be pissing a lot of you off in situations similar to those in this thread.

Well, according to this thread, you really shouldn't take him out in public. Just leave him with a sitter or a stranger or perhaps just leave him alone. Just as long as he is not bothering any adults, you will be fine in your "parenting".

(For those that don't recognise sarcasm, this was sarcasm. )

[Edited 8/11/11 8:02am]

Shanti0608 said:

Fauxie said:

Taking notes here I'm not a parent, but since I've had such a large part to play in raising my nephews, and right now our youngest nephew in particular, I've given a lot of thought to how I look after him. I think I've got a lot of things right, but maybe he's a little too spirited and been given too much freedom to cause merry havoc in the name of being free-thinking and independent and spontaneous. He seems like a kid that at times could be pissing a lot of you off in situations similar to those in this thread.

Well, according to this thread, you really shouldn't take him out in public. Just leave him with a sitter or a stranger or perhaps just leave him alone. Just as long as he is not bothering any adults, you will be fine in your "parenting".

That's pretty much what I was getting from it, yes.

My mom and I are cursed.

Why is it that EVERYWHERE we go, we have to hear some random child throwing a tantrum? What the fuck did we do in a past life?

Shanti0608 said:

Fauxie said:

Taking notes here I'm not a parent, but since I've had such a large part to play in raising my nephews, and right now our youngest nephew in particular, I've given a lot of thought to how I look after him. I think I've got a lot of things right, but maybe he's a little too spirited and been given too much freedom to cause merry havoc in the name of being free-thinking and independent and spontaneous. He seems like a kid that at times could be pissing a lot of you off in situations similar to those in this thread.

Well, according to this thread, you really shouldn't take him out in public. Just leave him with a sitter or a stranger or perhaps just leave him alone. Just as long as he is not bothering any adults, you will be fine in your "parenting".

(For those that don't recognise sarcasm, this was sarcasm. )

[Edited 8/11/11 8:02am]

Shorty said:

Shanti0608 said:

Well, according to this thread, you really shouldn't take him out in public. Just leave him with a sitter or a stranger or perhaps just leave him alone. Just as long as he is not bothering any adults, you will be fine in your "parenting".

(For those that don't recognise sarcasm, this was sarcasm. )

[Edited 8/11/11 8:02am]

I commented in the other thread too. I'm all for kid free places... BUT they way some of you all are acting...makes me wanna let my kids be BRATS around you, just for a good laugh. I'd know you'd want to smack them or knock them down...but you can't and wouldn't and that would be kinda funny

That would be funny. As soon as adults stop acting like children, i will start worrying about my child acting his age.

Reminds me of something that happened to me yesterday. I was walking back from the store with my 22 month old son in his buggy. I was chatting with him as I do when we are out. I had stopped outside the store to rearrange the shopping in the buggy. I asked him to do something for me, I said please and thank you to him as I always try to do. Just as I would to another adult out of respect. There was a woman standing within ear shot of our conversation and she gave me a strange look. I think if you treat humans with respect, you just might get respect in return, that is what I was taught anyways. Little ppl are sponges and they pick up so much from the adults around them. If I expect him to have respect for me, I need to show him respect as a human as well. That doesn't make me soft or a weak mom because he still knows that I am the adult and what I say goes!

[Edited 8/11/11 10:05am]

Shanti0608 said:

Shorty said:

I commented in the other thread too. I'm all for kid free places... BUT they way some of you all are acting...makes me wanna let my kids be BRATS around you, just for a good laugh. I'd know you'd want to smack them or knock them down...but you can't and wouldn't and that would be kinda funny

That would be funny. As soon as adults stop acting like children, i will start worrying about my child acting his age.

Reminds me of something that happened to me yesterday. I was walking back from the store with my 22 month old son in his buggy. I was chatting with him as I do when we are out. I had stopped outside the store to rearrange the shopping in the buggy. I asked him to do something for me, I said please and thank you to him as I always try to do. Just as I would to another adult out of respect. There was a woman standing within ear shot of our conversation and she gave me a strange look. I think if you treat humans with respect, you just might get respect in return, that is what I was taught anyways. Little ppl are sponges and they pick up so much from the adults around them. If I expect him to have respect for me, I need to show him respect as a human as well. That doesn't make me soft or a weak mom because he still knows that I am the adult and what I say goes!

[Edited 8/11/11 10:05am]

I think there are places where kids should be allowed and also places where they should be banned. Concerts for one. Unless you're taking them to see Hanna Montanna who whoever they're listening to these days, in other words, concerts that their generation likes, don't be bringing them up in concerts for my generation because old whores like us don't get very many good concerts these days and when we do get one, we're going to clown and act a damn fool....an adult fool....such as sneaking liquor in, getting drunk, and hollering...."Alright Prince, bitch you better work you old whore you!".... We don't need no Mary Poppins complaining...."Hey, watch your mouth, my kids are here"....I'm thinking, bitch, what the hell did you bring kids to a Prince concert for? I tell ya, Prince needs to go back to performing "Head" and "Jack U Off" and we wouldn't have that problem anymore.

I can see why people might want apartment buildings that don't allow kids also. Those kids in my apartment complex were sooooo damn loud while they were playing outside last summer. I haven't heard a peep out of them this summer though. I guess it's too hot for them. But it can be advantage if kids are allowed in apartments. For instance, if they are all loud outside playing, you know one of the first people that will come knocking on your door complaining about your loud music is the mother of one of those kids. At least you got ammunition against her if she goes to the landlord about it because your music is only loud and that's all. Those kids are not only loud but they are breaking lease rules all out playing in ditches and things.

Except for when I'm with my niece and nephew, I'm a walking kid-free zone. I hate kids who can't behave, or rather I hate the parents who can't act right to teach their kids to do the same. Having kids isn't a right, it's a priviledge and you should act accordingly. I don't know any restaurants/places here that have a no-kids policy as such as I'm sure it'd be considered descriminating but they do have an "18 and over in the restaurant" instead. It works well too.

Shanti0608 said:

paintedlady said:

Agreed. I make sure my kids do not impose on others. Its just the right thing to do so your children and everyone else has a pleasant experience and they are welcomed again.

IMHO I think people should learn to gage when the kids are gonna lose it and work in their child's schedule. If its gonna be a long day for the tikes, then take them somewhere they can unwind and be themselves. Kids get stressed out too, and their feelings should be taken into consideration. A little proper planning can save parents much grief.

I think some times parents and adults seem to forget that small ppl need naps, down time and rest. I know mom's that cart their toddlers all over the place to run errands and play dates but never allow down time or naps for the children. I have had to tell family on several ocassions that we could not do certain things at certain times because I knew it would be too much for our toddler and it would just cause him to be over tired and/or over stimulated and then cause a problem.

So many parents that I know think that little kids don't need routine and they can stay up until 11pm because it fits the parents schedule.

I know my son and I know that he still needs his naps and down time. If he does not get those things he gets over tired and cranky.

I think it takes a balance though, some ppl think that children should not go anywhere that adults are but how are they supposed to learn how to behave and be around adults if you leave them at home every time you go out.

I would never take my son to a movie theatre or a place that was not kid friendly in some way.

I just feel lately that society as a whole does not want to be bothered by other ppls children or their own for that matter.

Weird because kids have been around for a long time, why are they suddenly such a burden?

I was the same way... had to turn down many offers of outings and parties more suited for adults because I had many single adult friends when I had my first child. People got used to me saying no, so instead they would go out with me to more child friendly events and places. Most didn't mind at all and liked it.

DaveT said:

I don't think I'm an unreasonable person, but I'm all for kid free flights, restaurants, cinemas (god, especially cinemas!!), etc. Obviously not all of them but definately some.

I understand its a person's right to have a child, and good luck to anyone that does. But why should other people suffer just because of your choice to have a child? It's like if I really wanted to buy an expensive stereo and blow my eardrums outs with it, that's my choice...but it would be unreasonable to take said stereo out in public and disturb other people with it.

I know its not always a parents thought if their kid starts acting up in public, by where's the consideration for everyone else? I've worked hard all week, I've paid my taxes, I've not caused anyone any grief...then Friday night rolls round, I fancy eating out with the missus and my evenings ruined by someone else's kids. And the parents are like "Oh well, people will have to put up with it". I don't think so...!!

I had the same thing for 4 hours on a flight home one time. The brat in front spent the whole time screaming and kicking its chair. The parents couldn't give a toss! I came close to chucking it out the nearest window!!

Rant over

Damn right about cinemas!