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Thread started 07/22/11 3:04pm

Timmy84

Should Floyd Mayweather just stop bitching and fight Manny Pacquaio

I'm getting really fed up with Floyd's stingy ass. It seems like every year that pass with Floyd about to face Manny, there's always a setback, mainly from Floyd's ass. I know he's trying to be the rebel and all but with a reputation he got, you think he could retire for good after fighting Manny but instead he keeps saying he can't do it because either he don't wanna do it or he feels Manny ain't following "orders" to make sure that a fight between them will occur. I just wonder if it's really going to happen...

Your thoughts?

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Reply #1 posted 07/22/11 3:34pm

HuMpThAnG

Me thinks that lil Floyd is afraid to get brutally knocked out hmmm

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Reply #2 posted 07/22/11 4:49pm

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Two words... Joe Calzaghe, the pride of Wales just doesn't seem to get the recognition he deserves.

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Reply #3 posted 07/22/11 5:12pm

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He ain't bitching, he's dodging. He know Manny will fuck his world and his face da hell up. He don't want NO parts of that. I sure hate it too cuz I'd love to see somebody feed his bitch ass a good ol' fist sammich. punch pout

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Reply #4 posted 07/22/11 5:20pm

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Yeah, he's definately dodging beacause he knows Manny WILL give him a run for his money and his undefeated streak.

"Don't make me chase u, even doves have pride.."
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Reply #5 posted 07/22/11 5:40pm

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Manny's on roids...Floyd and others know this, which is why when they first discussed the fight Floyd demanded drug tests and Manny refused.

I havent followed all of their "talks" over the years, but for some reason I dont blame Floyd. If Manny's legit, why refuse the tests?

Oh...and I would love to see this fight. Winner--Floyd by split decision.

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Reply #6 posted 07/22/11 6:08pm

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He's scared.

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Reply #7 posted 07/22/11 6:13pm

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RodeoSchro said:

He's scared.

every man knows his limitatations...he was flash now he's just past his best...time to take a bow mate. confused

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Reply #8 posted 07/23/11 12:39am

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Timmy84 said:

I'm getting really fed up with Floyd's stingy ass. It seems like every year that pass with Floyd about to face Manny, there's always a setback, mainly from Floyd's ass. I know he's trying to be the rebel and all but with a reputation he got, you think he could retire for good after fighting Manny but instead he keeps saying he can't do it because either he don't wanna do it or he feels Manny ain't following "orders" to make sure that a fight between them will occur. I just wonder if it's really going to happen...

Your thoughts?

Floyd is afraid of Manny. THAT is the real problem, plain and simple.

Deep down, Floyd knows that in the boxing ring, Manny will NOT fall for any of Floyd's silly mind games and conservative fight tactics.

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Reply #9 posted 07/23/11 12:42am

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StonedImmaculate said:

Manny's on roids...Floyd and others know this, which is why when they first discussed the fight Floyd demanded drug tests and Manny refused.

I havent followed all of their "talks" over the years, but for some reason I dont blame Floyd. If Manny's legit, why refuse the tests?

Oh...and I would love to see this fight. Winner--Floyd by split decision.

But that's total bullshit that Floyd is selling. rolleyes

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Reply #10 posted 07/23/11 2:51am

JesseDezz

First, let Floyd get past Victor Ortiz (a big, strong, albeit, easy to hit southpaw) in September and let Pacquaio get past Juan Manuel Marquez in their third go-round in November (the first two were both CLOSE fights) and hopefully they can do this next year...

[Edited 7/23/11 3:00am]

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Reply #11 posted 07/23/11 2:58am

JesseDezz

Also, for the Pacquaio "roid" theorists:

Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Full Random Blood Testing

Bob Arum

By Tommy Allan

According to Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, his Superstar fighter and Pound For Pound King Manny Pacquiao has agreed to full random Blood testing for a potential fight with long time rival, Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Mr. Arum has been reported as saying - ‘We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization. We don’t believe USADA is a neutral organization.

‘I don’t think anybody’s test is as vigorous as the test administered by the Olympic Organization. And we can arrange for the Olympic Organization to handle the test under the supervision of the Athletic commission respective of the state where the fight is going to be held.

‘We’re not going to make this into a cowboy situation. We have an organization that has no authority [USADA] and even does it [blood-testing] without reporting to an organization that is responsible for the conduct of the fight.

‘We are focusing on Pacquiao vs Marquez fight. And if Pacquiao beats Marquez again and then if Mayweather says he’s agreeable to us, then we can have the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight next year.’

Since 2009 both fighter’s camp’s have been at loggerheads over testing and the cut-off dates. First Mayweather asked for 14 days, which was rejected by Team Pacquiao, then a few months later when Team Pacquiao was ready to agree to the 14 day cut, Mayweather moved the goal posts and said he would not fight with a cut-off.

This seem’s like a significant step in the right direction and the boxing world may finally get to see the fight it has craved for so long.

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Reply #12 posted 07/23/11 7:17am

HuMpThAnG

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm getting really fed up with Floyd's stingy ass. It seems like every year that pass with Floyd about to face Manny, there's always a setback, mainly from Floyd's ass. I know he's trying to be the rebel and all but with a reputation he got, you think he could retire for good after fighting Manny but instead he keeps saying he can't do it because either he don't wanna do it or he feels Manny ain't following "orders" to make sure that a fight between them will occur. I just wonder if it's really going to happen...

Your thoughts?

Floyd is afraid of Manny. THAT is the real problem, plain and simple.

Deep down, Floyd knows that in the boxing ring, Manny will NOT fall for any of Floyd's silly mind games and conservative fight tactics.

yup

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Reply #13 posted 07/23/11 11:04am

Timmy84

JesseDezz said:

Also, for the Pacquaio "roid" theorists:

Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Full Random Blood Testing

Bob Arum

By Tommy Allan

According to Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, his Superstar fighter and Pound For Pound King Manny Pacquiao has agreed to full random Blood testing for a potential fight with long time rival, Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Mr. Arum has been reported as saying - ‘We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization. We don’t believe USADA is a neutral organization.

‘I don’t think anybody’s test is as vigorous as the test administered by the Olympic Organization. And we can arrange for the Olympic Organization to handle the test under the supervision of the Athletic commission respective of the state where the fight is going to be held.

‘We’re not going to make this into a cowboy situation. We have an organization that has no authority [USADA] and even does it [blood-testing] without reporting to an organization that is responsible for the conduct of the fight.

‘We are focusing on Pacquiao vs Marquez fight. And if Pacquiao beats Marquez again and then if Mayweather says he’s agreeable to us, then we can have the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight next year.’

Since 2009 both fighter’s camp’s have been at loggerheads over testing and the cut-off dates. First Mayweather asked for 14 days, which was rejected by Team Pacquiao, then a few months later when Team Pacquiao was ready to agree to the 14 day cut, Mayweather moved the goal posts and said he would not fight with a cut-off.

This seem’s like a significant step in the right direction and the boxing world may finally get to see the fight it has craved for so long.

Now let's see what Floyd's punk ass does once Manny does what he do. bored2

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Reply #14 posted 07/23/11 11:08am

SCNDLS

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Timmy84 said:

JesseDezz said:

Also, for the Pacquaio "roid" theorists:

Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Full Random Blood Testing

Bob Arum

By Tommy Allan

According to Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, his Superstar fighter and Pound For Pound King Manny Pacquiao has agreed to full random Blood testing for a potential fight with long time rival, Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Mr. Arum has been reported as saying - ‘We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization. We don’t believe USADA is a neutral organization.

‘I don’t think anybody’s test is as vigorous as the test administered by the Olympic Organization. And we can arrange for the Olympic Organization to handle the test under the supervision of the Athletic commission respective of the state where the fight is going to be held.

‘We’re not going to make this into a cowboy situation. We have an organization that has no authority [USADA] and even does it [blood-testing] without reporting to an organization that is responsible for the conduct of the fight.

‘We are focusing on Pacquiao vs Marquez fight. And if Pacquiao beats Marquez again and then if Mayweather says he’s agreeable to us, then we can have the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight next year.’

Since 2009 both fighter’s camp’s have been at loggerheads over testing and the cut-off dates. First Mayweather asked for 14 days, which was rejected by Team Pacquiao, then a few months later when Team Pacquiao was ready to agree to the 14 day cut, Mayweather moved the goal posts and said he would not fight with a cut-off.

This seem’s like a significant step in the right direction and the boxing world may finally get to see the fight it has craved for so long.

Now let's see what Floyd's punk ass does once Manny does what he do. bored2

This fight will NEVER happen. lol

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Reply #15 posted 07/23/11 11:09am

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:

Now let's see what Floyd's punk ass does once Manny does what he do. bored2

This fight will NEVER happen. lol

I know but I'm still holding out hope! biggrin

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Reply #16 posted 07/23/11 11:10am

SCNDLS

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:

This fight will NEVER happen. lol

I know but I'm still holding out hope! biggrin

Hope springs eternal thumbs up!

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Reply #17 posted 07/23/11 11:22am

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:

I know but I'm still holding out hope! biggrin

Hope springs eternal thumbs up!

lol wink

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Reply #18 posted 07/23/11 11:26am

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JesseDezz said:

Also, for the Pacquaio "roid" theorists:

Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Full Random Blood Testing

Seems Manny is "ready" now, but why the delay? Why so specific on when he (Manny) is willing to be tested?

I'm telling you...Floyd and his camp know something we dont.

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Reply #19 posted 07/23/11 12:56pm

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the fight will never happen, I wish everyone would stop talking about it already.

Though I don't know him personally (Manny), so I can't vouch for him, he's clean.

the problem has been Floyd's people have been acting as their own commision....demanding things left and right, including overboard testing. Manny and Roach have both publicly stated they have no problem to the Olympic level testing. But once you start giving in to demands, when does it stop?

Floyd and his camp kept asking for ridiculous provisions, and every time Manny would agree to one, they would demand ANOTHER. Roach basically said they were tired of the run around and would focus on Manny's career, which they have.

Let's all remember, at this point in time, Floyd needs Manny more than Manny needs Floyd, that's just the way shit has shaken out.

Though it wouldn't be an easy fight, Manny throws far too many punches for Floyd to handle. Floyd has never been hurt, mainly because he is an INCREDIBLE defensive fighter. Manny's speed would eventually overcome that in a 12 round bout IMO.

I would tell Floyd to kick rocks too, either fight or don't. You know?



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Reply #20 posted 07/23/11 1:00pm

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StonedImmaculate said:

JesseDezz said:

Also, for the Pacquaio "roid" theorists:

Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Full Random Blood Testing

Seems Manny is "ready" now, but why the delay? Why so specific on when he (Manny) is willing to be tested?

I'm telling you...Floyd and his camp know something we dont.

he always had no problem with it, that gets lost in the hype.

Floyd will not take that fight until it looks like Manny's skills (mainly his had quickness) have diminished. By that time, I doubt Manny will want the fight.

And Floyd may end up losing a step himself. No fighter is invincible. He has bad knuckles and bad wrists, that's why he counters so much this late in his career. Picks his spots. He's just so talented that he can afford to do that. nod



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Reply #21 posted 07/23/11 1:19pm

Timmy84

When was Floyd's last fight? Two years ago or some shit?

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Reply #22 posted 07/23/11 1:21pm

JesseDezz

JerseyKRS said:

Floyd has never been hurt, mainly because he is an INCREDIBLE defensive fighter.

Floyd has indeed been rocked on occasion, most notably in his bout with Demarcus Corley at junior welterweight. Also, "Money May" had hell for the first five rounds of his fight with Zab, even getting floored by a straight left that wasn't called by the ref. Southpaws, have always been a problem with most orthodox fighters. Some trainers, such as Emmanuel Steward, would prefer that their fighters avoid them. And let's not forget Mayweather getting shook to his boots by Shane Mosley in the second round of their tiff last year (Shane's best and only good round of the whitewash).

Floyd Mayweather's ability to adapt and his underrated toughness is one of his most overlooked skills, at least to the casual boxing fan.

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Reply #23 posted 07/23/11 1:22pm

JesseDezz

Timmy84 said:

When was Floyd's last fight? Two years ago or some shit?

Do you actually follow boxing? Floyd's last bout was with Mosley last year.

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Reply #24 posted 07/23/11 1:39pm

Timmy84

JesseDezz said:

Timmy84 said:

When was Floyd's last fight? Two years ago or some shit?

Do you actually follow boxing? Floyd's last bout was with Mosley last year.

Yes I do. I almost forgot about his fight with Shane. That's how I remembered it. It was so forgettable. lol

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Reply #25 posted 07/23/11 1:40pm

JesseDezz

Timmy84 said:

JesseDezz said:

Do you actually follow boxing? Floyd's last bout was with Mosley last year.

Yes I do. I almost forgot about his fight with Shane. That's how I remembered it. It was so forgettable. lol

lol Hopefully, if they do FINALLY hook up, it will be memorable!!!

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Reply #26 posted 07/23/11 2:07pm

JesseDezz

There's a very intriguing matchup tonight on HBO, with Zab "Super" Judah (who now has hall-of-famer Pernell Whitaker in his corner) going up against Amir "King" Khan (Manny's stablemate and sometime sparring partner) in a partial title unification fight. Khan (who's seen many improvements since hooking up with trainer Freddie Roach) wants to eventually fight Floyd Mayweather.

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Reply #27 posted 07/23/11 2:14pm

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JesseDezz said:

There's a very intriguing matchup tonight on HBO, with Zab "Super" Judah (who now has hall-of-famer Pernell Whitaker in his corner) going up against Amir "King" Khan (Manny's stablemate and sometime sparring partner) in a partial title unification fight. Khan (who's seen many improvements since hooking up with trainer Freddie Roach) wants to eventually fight Floyd Mayweather.

Floyd Mayweather Jr: 'I would love to fight Amir Khan at Wembley'

http://www.guardian.co.uk...-amir-khan

"I am not worried about the Pacquiao thing at all. I can do whatever I want in this sport. Floyd Mayweather is in the sport to give great performances. And I must be happy myself before I can make anyone else happy.

"The British fans would love to see me fight Amir Khan and I'm pretty sure the Filipino fans would want to see me fight Pacquiao. The American fans would love to see me fight anybody."

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Reply #28 posted 07/23/11 4:56pm

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JesseDezz said:

There's a very intriguing matchup tonight on HBO, with Zab "Super" Judah (who now has hall-of-famer Pernell Whitaker in his corner) going up against Amir "King" Khan (Manny's stablemate and sometime sparring partner) in a partial title unification fight. Khan (who's seen many improvements since hooking up with trainer Freddie Roach) wants to eventually fight Floyd Mayweather.

Khan is no joke. I wish I had HBO so I could watch it tonight. sigh

Sweet Pea was perhaps the best defensive fighter ever. Still not a fan, but I gotta give the man his due.



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Reply #29 posted 07/23/11 6:27pm

Timmy84

JesseDezz said:

Timmy84 said:

Yes I do. I almost forgot about his fight with Shane. That's how I remembered it. It was so forgettable. lol

lol Hopefully, if they do FINALLY hook up, it will be memorable!!!

nod

Interesting about Khan. Why is Zab still fighting though? lol

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