ufoclub said:

kewlschool said:

The books/movies are a series of events that help shape and prepare Potter for his fight to the death, while trying to find out about his parents and the regime responsible for his parents death. A lot of the movies/books main plot lines are stand alone, with some of the plot lines supporting the overall arc. The finally movie should be great. (Read the book). The final 1/2 hour of the movie should be fast past with 3 major twists in the end.

Unlike Lord of the Rings which is one book split into 3, all Potter books are stand alone.

I feel like the events are not really shaping him in any clear way, only a vague badly plotted way (at least in the movies).

I need to see the plot of Harry Potter in outline form.

Lord of the Rings is 3 books! And the Hobbit is a fourth.

The first book Hobbit. Second book Lord of the Rings (split into 3 books by publisher demands).

NDRU said:

kewlschool said:

It's about the journey of personal discovery. Like therapy, you already have the answer. It was there all along, but you didn't realize.

Plus, on a plot note, maybe Glenda was using Dorothy to get rid of the witch. Food for thought.

that is certainly possible, but it doesn't make me like Glenda any more. Do yer own dirty work ya witch!

And yes I get what you're saying, it's about appreciating what you have already, but how are we supposed to know our shoes are magical tornado-reversing transportation devices?

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I dare someone to present a good plot outline for those two movies.

The director himself said he didn't really follow the plot written by the screenwriters.

I remember sitting in the theater in disbelief during part 3. It was such grand nonsense! Didn't make any kind of dramatic sense to me at all, much less plot point sense.

PS, I know The Hobbit is the first in the series... I have my much treasured illustrated Rankin and Bass edition.

spiderman 2 - spidey stops a subway train from falling off the tracks in the process losing his mask revealing he's peter parker. after a "jesus" moment the whole subway car tells him that they won't reveal who he truly is ..BULLSHIT his ass would have been plastered all of youtube!!

kewlschool said:

ufoclub said:

Having read none of the books but seen all the movies, I can honestly say that Harry Potter makes absolute no sense to me right now as a long plot arc. I have no idea what the obstacle was to the bad guy forming physically, and what his deal is. I have no idea what Harry Potter's special attribute is that makes him the mian character or how he has developed. The first movie on it's own made a of sense.

The movies are too far apart to connect in my mind. Maybe I should rewatch them. I have a feeling it won't add up to a solid sensible plot line like Lord of the Rings.

I do like all the effects, sound design, and the photography is pretty!

The books/movies are a series of events that help shape and prepare Potter for his fight to the death, while trying to find out about his parents and the regime responsible for his parents death. A lot of the movies/books main plot lines are stand alone, with some of the plot lines supporting the overall arc. The finally movie should be great. (Read the book). The final 1/2 hour of the movie should be fast past with 3 major twists in the end.

Unlike Lord of the Rings which is one book split into 3, all Potter books are stand alone.

Lord of the Rings is actually four books. The Hobbit begins the story.

You could start with Fellowship of the Ring but then you miss the story of how the Ring came to the shire.

ufoclub said:

kewlschool said:

The books/movies are a series of events that help shape and prepare Potter for his fight to the death, while trying to find out about his parents and the regime responsible for his parents death. A lot of the movies/books main plot lines are stand alone, with some of the plot lines supporting the overall arc. The finally movie should be great. (Read the book). The final 1/2 hour of the movie should be fast past with 3 major twists in the end.

Unlike Lord of the Rings which is one book split into 3, all Potter books are stand alone.

I feel like the events are not really shaping him in any clear way, only a vague badly plotted way (at least in the movies).

I need to see the plot of Harry Potter in outline form.

Lord of the Rings is 3 books! And the Hobbit is a fourth.

I think of it as four books with The Hobbit being the first.

To me, after reading all four six times, it doesn' makes sense to start with 'Fellowship of the Ring.'

L4OATheOriginal said:

spiderman 2 - spidey stops a subway train from falling off the tracks in the process losing his mask revealing he's peter parker. after a "jesus" moment the whole subway car tells him that they won't reveal who he truly is ..BULLSHIT his ass would have been plastered all of youtube!!

How did I KNOW you were going to mention this one, L4OA??!

brainless, co-dependent women who entirely lack judgment and who negligently contribute to their own downfall, thus requiring rescue by some Big, Strong Man. esPECially when this tripe is peddled as a 'love' story

SUPRMAN said:

kewlschool said:

The books/movies are a series of events that help shape and prepare Potter for his fight to the death, while trying to find out about his parents and the regime responsible for his parents death. A lot of the movies/books main plot lines are stand alone, with some of the plot lines supporting the overall arc. The finally movie should be great. (Read the book). The final 1/2 hour of the movie should be fast past with 3 major twists in the end.

Unlike Lord of the Rings which is one book split into 3, all Potter books are stand alone.

Lord of the Rings is actually four books. The Hobbit begins the story.

You could start with Fellowship of the Ring but then you miss the story of how the Ring came to the shire.

not really cause bilbo does describe how he found the ring and how gollum went crazy once it was lost

alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

spiderman 2 - spidey stops a subway train from falling off the tracks in the process losing his mask revealing he's peter parker. after a "jesus" moment the whole subway car tells him that they won't reveal who he truly is ..BULLSHIT his ass would have been plastered all of youtube!!

How did I KNOW you were going to mention this one, L4OA??!

ugh cause i said it in another thread?

L4OATheOriginal said:

SUPRMAN said:

Lord of the Rings is actually four books. The Hobbit begins the story.

You could start with Fellowship of the Ring but then you miss the story of how the Ring came to the shire.

not really cause bilbo does describe how he found the ring and how gollum went crazy once it was lost

But you miss the whole adventure! The Hobbit is a good read.

I used to be a BIG The Matrix fan. Now I could give two shits

corny, full of plot holes...

Laurence Fishburne is the only reason part 1 is worth watching again, but that's all...

JoeTyler said:

I used to be a BIG The Matrix fan. Now I could give two shits

corny, full of plot holes...

Laurence Fishburne is the only reason part 1 is worth watching again, but that's all...

The original Matrix was awesome but the sequels sucked donkey balls, especially the third movie.

anything involving Tyler Perry or men in fat suits acting like women...

SUPRMAN said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

not really cause bilbo does describe how he found the ring and how gollum went crazy once it was lost

But you miss the whole adventure! The Hobbit is a good read.

perhaps but after reading the lord of the rings ..i'm cool lol

L4OATheOriginal said:

SUPRMAN said:

But you miss the whole adventure! The Hobbit is a good read.

perhaps but after reading the lord of the rings ..i'm cool lol

No need to worry. The Hobbit comes out 12/2012 in theaters everywhere.

paintedlady said:

SUPRMAN said:

It's in the book.

I stopped reading books to movies, because the movies always end up dissapointing me.

The only exception JRR Tolkien .... they did a great job with the movies.

I hated the Jurrasic Park trilogy because I read the books first.

Me too The only exception being The Godfather. I really liked that adaptation.

The movies may not be so bad themselves, but after reading the book they usually disappoint. Of course, adapting a book is not easy. It's a completely different art form, and we as readers also tend to create our own movie in our heads while we're reading, but the movie should simply capture the feeling (of the book).

However, I will still continue reading the books first. I always love to get to know the original story.

L4OATheOriginal said:

SUPRMAN said:

But you miss the whole adventure! The Hobbit is a good read.

perhaps but after reading the lord of the rings ..i'm cool lol

I think the Hobbit is a superior more effectively structured tale than the entire Lord of the Rings as a story even if it is 1/4 the length.

ufoclub said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

perhaps but after reading the lord of the rings ..i'm cool lol

I think the Hobbit is a superior more effectively structured tale than the entire Lord of the Rings as a story even if it is 1/4 the length.

Makes me want to pull it out and read it.

Aelis said:

paintedlady said:

I stopped reading books to movies, because the movies always end up dissapointing me.

The only exception JRR Tolkien .... they did a great job with the movies.

I hated the Jurrasic Park trilogy because I read the books first.

Me too The only exception being The Godfather. I really liked that adaptation.

The movies may not be so bad themselves, but after reading the book they usually disappoint. Of course, adapting a book is not easy. It's a completely different art form, and we as readers also tend to create our own movie in our heads while we're reading, but the movie should simply capture the feeling (of the book).

However, I will still continue reading the books first. I always love to get to know the original story.

The Godfather is an excellent book.

I don't own it, but I should. Great movie of course.

SUPRMAN said:

Aelis said:

Me too The only exception being The Godfather. I really liked that adaptation.

The movies may not be so bad themselves, but after reading the book they usually disappoint. Of course, adapting a book is not easy. It's a completely different art form, and we as readers also tend to create our own movie in our heads while we're reading, but the movie should simply capture the feeling (of the book).

However, I will still continue reading the books first. I always love to get to know the original story.

The Godfather is an excellent book.

I don't own it, but I should. Great movie of course.

My Mom has been cleaning out my Granny's house. I noticed it sitting on the dining room table with some other stuff. I should grab it and read it.

Aelis said:

paintedlady said:

I stopped reading books to movies, because the movies always end up dissapointing me.

The only exception JRR Tolkien .... they did a great job with the movies.

I hated the Jurrasic Park trilogy because I read the books first.

Me too The only exception being The Godfather. I really liked that adaptation.

The movies may not be so bad themselves, but after reading the book they usually disappoint. Of course, adapting a book is not easy. It's a completely different art form, and we as readers also tend to create our own movie in our heads while we're reading, but the movie should simply capture the feeling (of the book).

However, I will still continue reading the books first. I always love to get to know the original story.

• I'm a big Stephen King fan. Although I watch the movies, I usually complain. There is a handful that aren't so bad, but I hate most of them.

• "The Amityville Horror" was a good book. But I didn't see the movie until years later, and I was so disappointed.

• I read "Water for Elephants" a few years ago, and refuse to see the movie. They cast that sparkly vampire as the lead!

• I've never seen any of the "Hannibal Lecter" movies, but read all the books.

I'd much rather read.

movies that dipict greys as being malicious.

fed my fears as a child...

CM7 said:

movies that dipict greys as being malicious.

fed my fears as a child...

They fed my fears as an adult...I dreamed about greys outside my window many

times and even "saw" their ship in my backyard. I have a huge imagination and

it plays out in my dreams very often.

What can I say? Crazy woman, maybe?

obsessed said:

CM7 said:

movies that dipict greys as being malicious.

fed my fears as a child...

They fed my fears as an adult...I dreamed about greys outside my window many

times and even "saw" their ship in my backyard. I have a huge imagination and

it plays out in my dreams very often.

What can I say? Crazy woman, maybe?

You saw it in a dream? Could you draw it?

Crazy? Perhaps not. I, personally, am one hundred percent convinced they are real.

One hundred percrent. I don't say that about too many things.

CM7 said:

obsessed said:

They fed my fears as an adult...I dreamed about greys outside my window many

times and even "saw" their ship in my backyard. I have a huge imagination and

it plays out in my dreams very often.

What can I say? Crazy woman, maybe?

You saw it in a dream? Could you draw it?

Crazy? Perhaps not. I, personally, am one hundred percent convinced they are real.

One hundred percrent. I don't say that about too many things.

I don't really need to draw it. They look like the classic greys you see in pictures.

I may dream about them, but I don't really believe they've abducted me or

anything like that. Like I said I have a huge imagination, and that plays into my

dreams.

I'm not sure if they're 'real' or not, actually. At one time I read book after book

about them, and their abductions. But the obsession finally passed, and I stopped.

I am a big sci-fi fan though.

obsessed said:

CM7 said:

You saw it in a dream? Could you draw it?

Crazy? Perhaps not. I, personally, am one hundred percent convinced they are real.

One hundred percrent. I don't say that about too many things.

I don't really need to draw it. They look like the classic greys you see in pictures.

I may dream about them, but I don't really believe they've abducted me or

anything like that. Like I said I have a huge imagination, and that plays into my

dreams.

I'm not sure if they're 'real' or not, actually. At one time I read book after book

about them, and their abductions. But the obsession finally passed, and I stopped.

I am a big sci-fi fan though.

I understand. Just because you dream about something doesn't mean anything... i mean it could but who is the say until after whatever happenes. That is actually a big issue with people claiming they have had encounters with aliens.... a lot of times it is in their sleep and although that is interesting it' s inconclusive. Nothing conclusive can come from dreams, thank you for acknowledging that. Some people carry a negative veiw of things based on nightmares they have had.

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CM7 said:

obsessed said:

I don't really need to draw it. They look like the classic greys you see in pictures.

I may dream about them, but I don't really believe they've abducted me or

anything like that. Like I said I have a huge imagination, and that plays into my

dreams.

I'm not sure if they're 'real' or not, actually. At one time I read book after book

about them, and their abductions. But the obsession finally passed, and I stopped.

I am a big sci-fi fan though.

I understand. Just because you dream about something doesn't mean anything... i mean it could but who is the say until after whatever happenes. That is actually a big issue with people claiming they have had encounters with aliens.... a lot of times it is in their sleep and although that is interesting it' s inconclusive. Nothing conclusive can come from dreams, thank you for acknowledging that. Some people carry a negative veiw of things based on nightmares they have had.

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I always know that my nightmares are nightmares and nothing more. I do think

that alot of people who claim abduction actually had nightmares. It doesn't rule

out the possibility of actual abductions, nevertheless. The Barney and Betty case

could be an example of a true possible abduction. I'm still on the fence about all

this sort of thing. But it certainly is interesting to read about, or see a movie

about some of these case histories.

obsessed said:

CM7 said:

I understand. Just because you dream about something doesn't mean anything... i mean it could but who is the say until after whatever happenes. That is actually a big issue with people claiming they have had encounters with aliens.... a lot of times it is in their sleep and although that is interesting it' s inconclusive. Nothing conclusive can come from dreams, thank you for acknowledging that. Some people carry a negative veiw of things based on nightmares they have had.

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I always know that my nightmares are nightmares and nothing more. I do think

that alot of people who claim abduction actually had nightmares. It doesn't rule

out the possibility of actual abductions, nevertheless. The Barney and Betty case

could be an example of a true possible abduction. I'm still on the fence about all

this sort of thing. But it certainly is interesting to read about, or see a movie

about some of these case histories.

Yep, it doesn't rule anything out... it just shows well rounded thinking to be aware of it.

I have had extraordinary encounters... and I believe at least one grey alien has been on this earth because i saw him with my own eyes... very close up. I am unscathed as far as I know and I do not believe him to be malevolent at all... although he was intimidating, but he was just cool like that.

I think there could be evil aliens and I do believe something is going on overall but I hate when people go around basing their opinions on the expressions of the own subconscious fears. I guess I hate it because I've done it... and it kept me from realizing a lot of important things for a while.

Alej said:

SUPRMAN said:

These have been pretty good. The last three (maybe four) books (IMO) were basically written as movies which spoiled them as books for me but makes it real easy for the movie to follow the book.

The Harry Potter series? The movies are horrible.

They just didn't give a fuck about the story.

Its hard to fit a whole collect of novels into 190 page screenplay.