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date from hell....(cont)

met a dude....OVER THE INTERNET...ugh...had been seeing him for about 7-8 years off n on int he chat and what not.....

we exchanged numbers....he was cool, talked about his dyck a lot......funny enough i guess....

after a month, went to meet the bastard WITH POOR HYGIENE, long ass finger nails, overgrown eyebrows, ashy hands.....ill ..barf my head aint been right since...

did the fukker put a hex on me??? how the hell to get rid a dat shyt??? i will fuck his ass up, but im trying to be coool...

what to do!?!?!!!!!!!

THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]

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Reply #1 posted 07/26/11 11:14am

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Well????? batting eyes

you ended your story too soon.... we wanna know if your fucked said nasty dude...

and if he is an orger? Yeah cause we some nosy bitches up in here. lurking lol

Shuddup ya'll.... you know your thinking it too! mad

If he is an orger just tell us and we won't tell NOBODY! innocent That or we'll chase him off the org like we do to people who keep their nails looking all nasty! demon

We got your back girlfriend. nod

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Reply #2 posted 07/26/11 11:52am

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:yippee: yay! ..fallinluv

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Reply #3 posted 07/26/11 11:55am

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i only smoosh orgers on paper painted!!! ..smile ..lol

what have you heard??? i didnt fuck him intentionally...hrmph I just tried to keep him from fucking meeeee!!!!! bananadance

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Reply #4 posted 07/26/11 11:57am

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cool

start from the beginning... I want details!

popcorn

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Reply #5 posted 07/26/11 11:59am

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paintedlady said:

cool

start from the beginning... I want details!

popcorn

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Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #6 posted 07/26/11 12:26pm

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Reply #7 posted 07/26/11 12:50pm

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i only smoosh orgers on paper painted!!! ..smile ..lol

what have you heard??? i didnt fuck him intentionally...hrmph I just tried to keep him from fucking meeeee!!!!! bananadance

hahahah- funny- sounds like a disaster smile

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Reply #8 posted 07/26/11 1:30pm

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There are some things that cannot be unseen.

There are some things that cannot be undone.

The internet is their breeding ground.

I'm firmly planted in denial
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Reply #9 posted 07/26/11 2:02pm

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hmmm

7-8 years chatting on the internet? Fo real?

Damn!

Damn, damn!

Overgrown brows and ashy hands? Bad Hygiene?

Whatever is the opposite of the lottery....YOU WON IT!

Where's Chris Hansen when you need him?

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Reply #10 posted 07/26/11 3:59pm

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myfavorite said:

met a dude....OVER THE INTERNET...ugh...had been seeing him for about 7-8 years off n on int he chat and what not.....

we exchanged numbers....he was cool, talked about his dyck a lot......funny enough i guess....

after a month, went to meet the bastard WITH POOR HYGIENE, long ass finger nails, overgrown eyebrows, ashy hands.....ill ..barf my head aint been right since...

did the fukker put a hex on me??? how the hell to get rid a dat shyt??? i will fuck his ass up, but im trying to be coool...

what to do!?!?!!!!!!!

...Here's the thing:

Never, ever get involved with guys you meet on the internet. Just don't; there's always something fundamentally, deeply, wrong with them - which is why they pick up women online.

The last guy I was interested in online, likes to take pictures of his bathtub filled with his own blood. The other day he posted a pic on his blog of a topless woman painted alabaster white over ninety percent of her body, with some kind of fake blood oozing out of her mouth and down her chin - some kind of cult/orgy reinactment thing he participated in.

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #11 posted 07/26/11 4:03pm

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^ Ewwwww.

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Reply #12 posted 07/26/11 4:20pm

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^ Ewwwww.

Yeah, and he initially scared me off with the bathtub thing. I should've went with that first instinct about him, but after awhile he seemed pretty sane to me so I dismissed it as personal eccentricity. Wrrrrong.

He's got pretty militant, extremist views on certain subject matter, and when I disagreed with him he started flooding my private messaging Inbox. He stays civil enough at first, until you refuse to give in and agree with him. Then he gets nasty and starts lecturing and patronizing you and calling you ignorant and telling you you don't read much, because you don't agree with him. Even if you tell him that's not true, he'll insist you're lying. He goes on these anti-capitalist rants about how no one should work anywhere that employs more than 300 people because it's evil, and how everybody should plant their own food...if he sees people who are living well, he bitches and moans about how they must be bad people; at which point I put up pics of where I live just to piss him off. I think it worked. biggrin

The guy I got mixed up with before him was actually worse, though. He used to go on long, hysterical, profanity-laced rants about women - or as he called it, "Men's Rights". God help you if you disagreed with him; he'd get really scary, really fast. I remember him telling some guy who didn't agree with him that he should die. I saw people talking about how they'd reported him, when he suddenly vanished; I found out later he took off before they could ban him.

...I've noticed too that it seems like you're more likely to encounter men with criminal records online than anyplace else except an actual prison. It's like you go in random chat rooms, hang out for a while, then you find out this guy has a record, and that one....

[Edited 7/26/11 16:53pm]

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #13 posted 07/26/11 4:32pm

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armpit said:

HotGritz said:

^ Ewwwww.

Yeah, and he initially scared me off with the bathtub thing. I should've went with that first instinct about him, but after awhile he seemed pretty sane to me so I dismissed it as personal eccentricity. Wrrrrong.

...I've also noticed that there's a lot of guys with criminal records who pick up chicks online (or try to).

Oh hell yeah and dudes looking for sugar mommas. Just a crime.

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Reply #14 posted 07/26/11 4:55pm

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HotGritz said:

armpit said:

Yeah, and he initially scared me off with the bathtub thing. I should've went with that first instinct about him, but after awhile he seemed pretty sane to me so I dismissed it as personal eccentricity. Wrrrrong.

...I've also noticed that there's a lot of guys with criminal records who pick up chicks online (or try to).

Oh hell yeah and dudes looking for sugar mommas. Just a crime.

...That, I haven't seen - yet lol .

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #15 posted 07/26/11 5:04pm

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armpit said:

HotGritz said:

^ Ewwwww.

Yeah, and he initially scared me off with the bathtub thing. I should've went with that first instinct about him, but after awhile he seemed pretty sane to me so I dismissed it as personal eccentricity. Wrrrrong.

He's got pretty militant, extremist views on certain subject matter, and when I disagreed with him he started flooding my private messaging Inbox. He stays civil enough at first, until you refuse to give in and agree with him. Then he gets nasty and starts lecturing and patronizing you and calling you ignorant and telling you you don't read much, because you don't agree with him. Even if you tell him that's not true, he'll insist you're lying. He goes on these anti-capitalist rants about how no one should work anywhere that employs more than 300 people because it's evil, and how everybody should plant their own food...if he sees people who are living well, he bitches and moans about how they must be bad people; at which point I put up pics of where I live just to piss him off. I think it worked. biggrin

The guy I got mixed up with before him was actually worse, though. He used to go on long, hysterical, profanity-laced rants about women - or as he called it, "Men's Rights". God help you if you disagreed with him; he'd get really scary, really fast. I remember him telling some guy who didn't agree with him that he should die. I saw people talking about how they'd reported him, when he suddenly vanished; I found out later he took off before they could ban him.

...I've noticed too that it seems like you're more likely to encounter men with criminal records online than anyplace else except an actual prison. It's like you go in random chat rooms, hang out for a while, then you find out this guy has a record, and that one....

[Edited 7/26/11 16:53pm]

Daaayyyuuummm!!!!! Wait...you didn't actually meet him face to face did you?

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
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Reply #16 posted 07/26/11 6:05pm

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HotGritz said:

armpit said:

Yeah, and he initially scared me off with the bathtub thing. I should've went with that first instinct about him, but after awhile he seemed pretty sane to me so I dismissed it as personal eccentricity. Wrrrrong.

He's got pretty militant, extremist views on certain subject matter, and when I disagreed with him he started flooding my private messaging Inbox. He stays civil enough at first, until you refuse to give in and agree with him. Then he gets nasty and starts lecturing and patronizing you and calling you ignorant and telling you you don't read much, because you don't agree with him. Even if you tell him that's not true, he'll insist you're lying. He goes on these anti-capitalist rants about how no one should work anywhere that employs more than 300 people because it's evil, and how everybody should plant their own food...if he sees people who are living well, he bitches and moans about how they must be bad people; at which point I put up pics of where I live just to piss him off. I think it worked. biggrin

The guy I got mixed up with before him was actually worse, though. He used to go on long, hysterical, profanity-laced rants about women - or as he called it, "Men's Rights". God help you if you disagreed with him; he'd get really scary, really fast. I remember him telling some guy who didn't agree with him that he should die. I saw people talking about how they'd reported him, when he suddenly vanished; I found out later he took off before they could ban him.

...I've noticed too that it seems like you're more likely to encounter men with criminal records online than anyplace else except an actual prison. It's like you go in random chat rooms, hang out for a while, then you find out this guy has a record, and that one....

[Edited 7/26/11 16:53pm]

Daaayyyuuummm!!!!! Wait...you didn't actually meet him face to face did you?

...Nope! Just talked on the phone. There he seems way more lucid, but in retrospect I still don't have a lot of faith that that necessarily means he's entirely safe to be around. falloff He might be one of those types that's angelic until you fail to cook dinner exactly as he wants it, at which point he slaps you clean off your chair and then across the room or something. eek

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #17 posted 07/26/11 6:20pm

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myfavorite said:

met a dude....OVER THE INTERNET...ugh...had been seeing him for about 7-8 years off n on int he chat and what not.....

we exchanged numbers....he was cool, talked about his dyck a lot......funny enough i guess....

after a month, went to meet the bastard WITH POOR HYGIENE, long ass finger nails, overgrown eyebrows, ashy hands.....ill ..barf my head aint been right since...

did the fukker put a hex on me??? how the hell to get rid a dat shyt??? i will fuck his ass up, but im trying to be coool...

what to do!?!?!!!!!!!

...Here's the thing:

Never, ever get involved with guys you meet on the internet. Just don't; there's always something fundamentally, deeply, wrong with them - which is why they pick up women online.

The last guy I was interested in online, likes to take pictures of his bathtub filled with his own blood. The other day he posted a pic on his blog of a topless woman painted alabaster white over ninety percent of her body, with some kind of fake blood oozing out of her mouth and down her chin - some kind of cult/orgy reinactment thing he participated in.

Holy shit hell! sounds like a serial killer! eek eek

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Reply #18 posted 07/26/11 7:15pm

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armpit said:

HotGritz said:

Daaayyyuuummm!!!!! Wait...you didn't actually meet him face to face did you?

...Nope! Just talked on the phone. There he seems way more lucid, but in retrospect I still don't have a lot of faith that that necessarily means he's entirely safe to be around. falloff He might be one of those types that's angelic until you fail to cook dinner exactly as he wants it, at which point he slaps you clean off your chair and then across the room or something. eek

that is just what i was thinkin!!!!!! YIKES!!!...ya know!!!!!!!!! ??!?!?!!1...lol

but dude is sayin he wants to show me sum.....SHOW ME WHAT?!?!?!!!!

THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]

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Reply #19 posted 07/26/11 8:22pm

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armpit said:

...Here's the thing:

Never, ever get involved with guys you meet on the internet. Just don't; there's always something fundamentally, deeply, wrong with them - which is why they pick up women online.

The last guy I was interested in online, likes to take pictures of his bathtub filled with his own blood. The other day he posted a pic on his blog of a topless woman painted alabaster white over ninety percent of her body, with some kind of fake blood oozing out of her mouth and down her chin - some kind of cult/orgy reinactment thing he participated in.

Holy shit hell! sounds like a serial killer! eek eek

falloff I know, right? But in spite of that somehow he gives off a great first impression. I was all like, "Oh wow, I misunderstood this guy, now I feel bad."

But...don't they say Gacy and Bundy seemed to be real nice guys at first. eek

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #20 posted 07/26/11 8:50pm

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PenelopePaige said:

Holy shit hell! sounds like a serial killer! eek eek

falloff I know, right? But in spite of that somehow he gives off a great first impression. I was all like, "Oh wow, I misunderstood this guy, now I feel bad."

But...don't they say Gacy and Bundy seemed to be real nice guys at first. eek

I met a guy like this on the internet once. I'm married so I wasn't flirting but I was chit chatting with him and was really loving him! thought he was SO SMART and so cool, he was really nice and complimentary etc. then he started getting passive aggressive and then a little WEIRD, then started sending me emails from "other people" of our group, only I knew that it was HIM pretending to be other people. It creeped me out so so bad! I ceased all contact! Too weird too weird! eek

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Reply #21 posted 07/26/11 9:07pm

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myfavorite said:

armpit said:

...Nope! Just talked on the phone. There he seems way more lucid, but in retrospect I still don't have a lot of faith that that necessarily means he's entirely safe to be around. falloff He might be one of those types that's angelic until you fail to cook dinner exactly as he wants it, at which point he slaps you clean off your chair and then across the room or something. eek

that is just what i was thinkin!!!!!! YIKES!!!...ya know!!!!!!!!! ??!?!?!!1...lol

but dude is sayin he wants to show me sum.....SHOW ME WHAT?!?!?!!!!

He wants to show you that back room in his basement where he keeps all his torture equipment. DON'T DO IT GURLLLL!!!! lol

PenelopePaige - It's a real good thing you cut off all contact with that guy when you did. I bet he would've gotten even scarier the longer you talked to him. The internet is a wacky place - I have enough really fucked-up horror stories that...I could probably write an actual book based off all the warped stuff I've witnessed or experienced online and sell a crap load of copies. The truth really is stranger than any fiction (or horror).

I saw a few minutes ago where someone said on YouTube that social networking is going to be dead in about five years. I wouldn't even give it that long, now that I'm thinking about it. I think a lot of people are starting to realize really fast that the internet really isn't the best place to meet new people in a social context - whether platonically, romantically, etc.

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #22 posted 07/26/11 9:28pm

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myfavorite said:

that is just what i was thinkin!!!!!! YIKES!!!...ya know!!!!!!!!! ??!?!?!!1...lol

but dude is sayin he wants to show me sum.....SHOW ME WHAT?!?!?!!!!

He wants to show you that back room in his basement where he keeps all his torture equipment. DON'T DO IT GURLLLL!!!! lol

PenelopePaige - It's a real good thing you cut off all contact with that guy when you did. I bet he would've gotten even scarier the longer you talked to him. The internet is a wacky place - I have enough really fucked-up horror stories that...I could probably write an actual book based off all the warped stuff I've witnessed or experienced online and sell a crap load of copies. The truth really is stranger than any fiction (or horror).

I saw a few minutes ago where someone said on YouTube that social networking is going to be dead in about five years. I wouldn't even give it that long, now that I'm thinking about it. I think a lot of people are starting to realize really fast that the internet really isn't the best place to meet new people in a social context - whether platonically, romantically, etc.

You are sooooo right! Sometimes people are cool and fun but every so often you get some icky werido and it's......icky! Don't want no part of that! No way! eek lol

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Reply #23 posted 07/27/11 3:11am

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armpit said:

He wants to show you that back room in his basement where he keeps all his torture equipment. DON'T DO IT GURLLLL!!!! lol

PenelopePaige - It's a real good thing you cut off all contact with that guy when you did. I bet he would've gotten even scarier the longer you talked to him. The internet is a wacky place - I have enough really fucked-up horror stories that...I could probably write an actual book based off all the warped stuff I've witnessed or experienced online and sell a crap load of copies. The truth really is stranger than any fiction (or horror).

I saw a few minutes ago where someone said on YouTube that social networking is going to be dead in about five years. I wouldn't even give it that long, now that I'm thinking about it. I think a lot of people are starting to realize really fast that the internet really isn't the best place to meet new people in a social context - whether platonically, romantically, etc.

You are sooooo right! Sometimes people are cool and fun but every so often you get some icky werido and it's......icky! Don't want no part of that! No way! eek lol

Yeah, okay you have a point - truthfully, there are *some* okay people online. I've had plenty of positive experiences in that respect; usually there's a lot of really cool girls online that I've ended up being good friends with...but I swear that more often than not it's a lot of nucking futs people; finding the okay ones is like finding a needle in a haystack, but when you do, you're so glad, like, "You're not batshit crazy; this is rad." lol

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #24 posted 07/27/11 6:51am

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armpit said:

PenelopePaige said:

You are sooooo right! Sometimes people are cool and fun but every so often you get some icky werido and it's......icky! Don't want no part of that! No way! eek lol

Yeah, okay you have a point - truthfully, there are *some* okay people online. I've had plenty of positive experiences in that respect; usually there's a lot of really cool girls online that I've ended up being good friends with...but I swear that more often than not it's a lot of nucking futs people; finding the okay ones is like finding a needle in a haystack, but when you do, you're so glad, like, "You're not batshit crazy; this is rad." lol

ditto that! lol

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armpit said:

HotGritz said:

Daaayyyuuummm!!!!! Wait...you didn't actually meet him face to face did you?

...Nope! Just talked on the phone. There he seems way more lucid, but in retrospect I still don't have a lot of faith that that necessarily means he's entirely safe to be around. falloff He might be one of those types that's angelic until you fail to cook dinner exactly as he wants it, at which point he slaps you clean off your chair and then across the room or something. eek

Yep. Wow, that reminds me of so many movies I've seen about spousal abuse. The woman marries this prince charming type dude and one day out of nowhere....he's beating her ass over laundry and a phone bill.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
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Reply #26 posted 07/27/11 2:35pm

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myfavorite said:

that is just what i was thinkin!!!!!! YIKES!!!...ya know!!!!!!!!! ??!?!?!!1...lol

but dude is sayin he wants to show me sum.....SHOW ME WHAT?!?!?!!!!

He wants to show you that back room in his basement where he keeps all his torture equipment. DON'T DO IT GURLLLL!!!! lol

lol faint

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
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disbelief You ladies are obviously doing something wrong or else you woulda found a foine African lover man like I did online mushy

http://prince.org/msg/100/314486

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Reply #28 posted 07/27/11 3:49pm

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SCNDLS said:

disbelief You ladies are obviously doing something wrong or else you woulda found a foine African lover man like I did online mushy

http://prince.org/msg/100/314486

falloff Oh no!!!

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
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Reply #29 posted 07/27/11 5:44pm

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armpit said:

He wants to show you that back room in his basement where he keeps all his torture equipment. DON'T DO IT GURLLLL!!!! lol

PenelopePaige - It's a real good thing you cut off all contact with that guy when you did. I bet he would've gotten even scarier the longer you talked to him. The internet is a wacky place - I have enough really fucked-up horror stories that...I could probably write an actual book based off all the warped stuff I've witnessed or experienced online and sell a crap load of copies. The truth really is stranger than any fiction (or horror).

I saw a few minutes ago where someone said on YouTube that social networking is going to be dead in about five years. I wouldn't even give it that long, now that I'm thinking about it. I think a lot of people are starting to realize really fast that the internet really isn't the best place to meet new people in a social context - whether platonically, romantically, etc.

You are sooooo right! Sometimes people are cool and fun but every so often you get some icky werido and it's......icky! Don't want no part of that! No way! eek lol

summmmuummmaaabitch...!!!...lol

THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]

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