Paris9748430 said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Nope, not one bit. This was pretty much a "lightening" type situation. It's not gonna strike again, even if they wanted it to. Plus, as long as they're making money from these advertisers who're just loving all the damn kids this PG era attracts, Vince won't feel a need to change a thing. And that's so sad. We're going to continue to have Super Cena/Orton look nearly invincible. They can't even make the other belts in the organization look like they mean anything. I have to remind myself who the US & Intercontinental champs are these days. And we never saw the tag team champs on TV for 2-3 weeks prior to this past Monday, and they were just used for Sweet Chin Music victims. LOL!

Batista even said a couple of days ago via his Twitter that he absolutely HATED this "PG crap", and I'm sure there are others who're on the roster who feel the exact same way. Once Punk leaves (if he hasn't truly re-signed already), everythign will be just as bland as before.

I can't stand it when people constantly bitch about the WWE being "PG", because with the exception of the Attitude Era and a few years afterward, the WWE has ALWAYS been "PG"!

It's always catered to kids and families.

When people constantly bitch and bitch about it, it makes me think they don't truly have a grasp on history.

The WWE being "PG" or not "PG" isn't really gonna change anything.

Didnt Monday Night Raw used to be TV14? In the late 90's?

ThrillUorKillU said:

Paris9748430 said:

I can't stand it when people constantly bitch about the WWE being "PG", because with the exception of the Attitude Era and a few years afterward, the WWE has ALWAYS been "PG"!

It's always catered to kids and families.

When people constantly bitch and bitch about it, it makes me think they don't truly have a grasp on history.

The WWE being "PG" or not "PG" isn't really gonna change anything.

Didnt Monday Night Raw used to be TV14? In the late 90's?

Yep.

Timmy84 said:

ThrillUorKillU said:

Didnt Monday Night Raw used to be TV14? In the late 90's?

Yep.

And it's PG now? Thats weird.

Randy Orton Exposes Kelly Kelly's Personal Life & More

Date Added: June 30, 2011
Story By: Marc Middleton

WWE World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton participated in an interview with Phoenix, Arizona based rock station 98KUPD promoting this week's SmackDown tapings. Highlights from the interview are as follows.

* Orton discussed his past issues with drug abuse, including an incident in 2006 where he overdosed, stopped breathing and his wife called an ambulance to save his life. Orton said he and his family discuss the bad choices he's made in WWE's upcoming DVD release, Randy Orton: The Evolution of a Predator

"I was ashamed of it for a long time, but now talking about it and getting it off my chest—when my in-laws and mom watches it, they're going to cry. My wife talks about when I stopped breathing and the ambulance came," Orton said.

* Orton noted his recent concussion at a live event in Spain, saying the Raw taping the day after was "the biggest blur" and that he "couldn't focus or concentrate." He said it was the sixth concussion he had suffered, which had WWE worried. He said it was three years since his previous concussion, and that he had suffered some "bad ones" earlier in his career.

* Orton was broached on the subject of not being able to say he's a wrestler, but rather, a "WWE Superstar." Orton added, "Honestly, a lot of things we've talked about thus far in this interview, they'd be upset with. I'm not like, 'eff it,' but I try to be real."

* Orton shared a story of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson trying to get him in trouble prior to WrestleMania. Orton said he gave his opinion on The Rock during an interview with ESPN—that he wasn't buying his return speech about returning to WWE and never leaving again. Orton said Johnson called management and claimed the WWE Superstar slammed him and Triple H in the interview. Orton feels Rock mentioned Triple H to grab their attention even though he didn't criticize "The Game" in the interview.

Orton said he had "got in trouble" and "made Vince mad" for his statements. He feels the interview was "blown out of proportion" and that Johnson should have confronted him over his remarks, rather than complaining to Vince McMahon and management.

* Orton said Cena is "light years" ahead of everyone in WWE on the microphone, including The Rock. Orton then criticized Cena's wrestling ability by laughing at his in-ring style.

"When I watch him, I feel he's a little stiff, hard to move, robotic. It certainly hasn't hurt him. I'm much better than John Cena, but on the mic, he's light-years ahead of all of us, including The Rock," Orton said.

-- Orton knocked the actresses who have portrayed his wife on television.

"Both those women were actresses. Not even actresses. They were like models who couldn't act; it was awful. (hosts laughed) It actually ruined both segments because they couldn't act," Orton said.

-- Orton brought up Chris Jericho, who said he is missed as a locker room leader. When asked about Downfall on ABC, Orton said he doesn't think Jericho received permission from WWE to host the game show. He said there was some conflict over the matter, but Jericho is the type to approach Vince McMahon.

"Jericho is type of the guy to go in Vince's office and tell him this is what he's doing and tough," Orton said. "A lot of newer, younger guys are intimidated by Vince. They're scared to knock on his door. Jericho—I miss him being around—would go tell McMahon what's going on."

-- Spured on by the hosts, Orton levied some unflattering remarks towards WWE Divas Champion Kelly Kelly after saying he worked a brief romance storyline with her a few years ago.

"I would be a method actor, and actually sleep with her," joked host John Holmberg.

"I could name a few method actors in WWE," Orton replied. "Like, ten guys."

The hosts tried to pry names from Orton, who tried to deflect from the topic by joking that it's all the big guys on the roster. Orton and the hosts continued to joke about who Kelly has or hasn't slept with throughout the show.

Ouch! That wasn't cool of him to say. With one more concussion, maybe he can sit his ass down somewhere for an extended period of time.

I also didn't know he had a drug problem at some point of his career. It seems like everyone (save for CM Punk; ) has had problems with drugs at some point in time.

[Edited 6/30/11 15:08pm]

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Still, at least he apologized.

That was really douchey of him

bboy87 said:

That was really douchey of him

Well duh Randy is a douche and not surprised by her all those wrestlers date each other

Fuck Randy Orton with an elephant dick...

Paris9748430 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Sorry but Christian just doesn't have the "it" thing to be a singles world champion. He has

zero charisma. He's worse than the late Chris Benoit was when it comes to personality but

the difference was Chris Benoit was one tough son of a bitch and was a very good technical

wrestler. I don't know if Edge left to do movies or spend family time but they really need him

back in lieu of Christian being the so called main eventer.

Christian has "zero" charisma???

He's got a LOT more charisma than the dude who's holding the World Title on Smackdown right now!

I'd probably say Christian is one of the most charismatic guys in the entire company.

Christian may not have the "look", but to say he's not charismatic is just foolish.

Okay there's 2 Christian fans here.

He has more charisma than Randy Orton.

Alrighty then. Christian is corny as hell imo. I'm not surprised at all they only

let him hold the title for 5 days. I'd rather see Mark Henry or the equally corny

ass Miz as champion. Christian has no mike skills where as the Miz does.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Sorry but Christian just doesn't have the "it" thing to be a singles world champion. He has

zero charisma. He's worse than the late Chris Benoit was when it comes to personality but

the difference was Chris Benoit was one tough son of a bitch and was a very good technical

wrestler. I don't know if Edge left to do movies or spend family time but they really need him

back in lieu of Christian being the so called main eventer.

Edge officially retired because he was told by doctors he could be paralyzed if he took a bump on his back the wrong way. So, they would not clear him to wrestle, and he had to retire. He was experiencing numbness in his arms and hands and shit. This happened right after Wrestlemania.

Christian has PLENTY of charisma though, dude. In fact, his nickname is actually Captain Charisma! Do you remember when darn near the whole IWC was up in arms when he lost the title two days after winning it in that ladder match?? A LOT of people are diggin' this guy, and I'm surely one of 'em! He makes for one helluva heel. Look up some of his antics on YouTube when he was a heel a few years ago before he went over to TNA and he was teaming with Chris Jericho and had Tomko as his bodyguard. Good, funny stuff.

And you wanna talk about somebody lacking charisma? Look no further than the current champ, Orton. Watching him cut a promo is more boring than watching paint dry, and that whole "viper" gimmick and crawling around he does looks RIDICULOUS.

[Edited 6/30/11 7:44am]

phunkdaddy said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Edge officially retired because he was told by doctors he could be paralyzed if he took a bump on his back the wrong way. So, they would not clear him to wrestle, and he had to retire. He was experiencing numbness in his arms and hands and shit. This happened right after Wrestlemania.

Christian has PLENTY of charisma though, dude. In fact, his nickname is actually Captain Charisma! Do you remember when darn near the whole IWC was up in arms when he lost the title two days after winning it in that ladder match?? A LOT of people are diggin' this guy, and I'm surely one of 'em! He makes for one helluva heel. Look up some of his antics on YouTube when he was a heel a few years ago before he went over to TNA and he was teaming with Chris Jericho and had Tomko as his bodyguard. Good, funny stuff.

And you wanna talk about somebody lacking charisma? Look no further than the current champ, Orton. Watching him cut a promo is more boring than watching paint dry, and that whole "viper" gimmick and crawling around he does looks RIDICULOUS.

[Edited 6/30/11 7:44am]

He IS boring.

Timmy84 said:

phunkdaddy said:

He IS boring.

You know the RKO is the most electrifying finishing move in the

WWE right now. Listen to the fans response. Even when he was a

heel it was the most dangerous finishing move in the WWE.

phunkdaddy said:

Timmy84 said:

He IS boring.

You know the RKO is the most electrifying finishing move in the

WWE right now. Listen to the fans response. Even when he was a

heel it was the most dangerous finishing move in the WWE.

Dude said his promo was boring lol

phunkdaddy said:

Paris9748430 said:

Christian has "zero" charisma???

He's got a LOT more charisma than the dude who's holding the World Title on Smackdown right now!

I'd probably say Christian is one of the most charismatic guys in the entire company.

Christian may not have the "look", but to say he's not charismatic is just foolish.

Okay there's 2 Christian fans here.

He has more charisma than Randy Orton.

Alrighty then. Christian is corny as hell imo. I'm not surprised at all they only

let him hold the title for 5 days. I'd rather see Mark Henry or the equally corny

ass Miz as champion. Christian has no mike skills where as the Miz does.

OK, you seriously don't watch wrestling if you think Christian has no mic skills and you think the Miz is better than him.

Your television must be on mute.

Timmy84 said:

Fuck Randy Orton with an elephant dick...

Yeah, he actually said that Dolph Ziggler was one of the guys who fucked Kelly Kelly. As crass as that is to say publicly, I now have a newfound respect for Dolph!! Lucky ass bastard!!!

Paris9748430 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Okay there's 2 Christian fans here.

He has more charisma than Randy Orton.

Alrighty then. Christian is corny as hell imo. I'm not surprised at all they only

let him hold the title for 5 days. I'd rather see Mark Henry or the equally corny

ass Miz as champion. Christian has no mike skills where as the Miz does.

OK, you seriously don't watch wrestling if you think Christian has no mic skills and you think the Miz is better than him.

Your television must be on mute.

Lol! I know, right?!

Phunkdaddy, did you Youtube some clips of Christian from a few years ago yet? I would say look at some recent clips, but he's only JUST started to get highlighted regularly again after he had that injury last year. He would KILL Orton on the mic, no questions asked. I will say though that yes, the RKO - which is just a VERY slightly modified Stunner and the SAME as DDP's Diamond Cutter - is a much better finishing maneuver than Christian's Kill Switch, but that's just a finishing move. Who cares about that??! Orton just tries to look menacing and threatens to kick somebody in the head. Oooo, great technical move there.

And let me also say this. I actually do like The Miz. Definitely not as good as Christian, but still TONS better than Randy Boreton.

I'll check out these Christian clips on Youtube. I still don't find him to be

exciting as a main eventer these days. Looks like they are slowly but

surely trying to bring TNA back to it's origin.

phunkdaddy said:

I'll check out these Christian clips on Youtube. I still don't find him to be

exciting as a main eventer these days. Looks like they are slowly but

surely trying to bring TNA back to it's origin.

Oh yeah, with their X-Division and the 6-sided ring. I was trying to watch some of Impact this evening, but I just couldn't get into it. As physically talented as they may be, their characters just don't grab me at all.

No need to do too much research, dude. Here are a few of Christian (a couple of them with Edge too, but you'll get the point) clips I thought were entertaining:

jimmy yang is now on tna

i don't know if its because of tna's upcoming ppv but it seems they are getting more wrestlers for their x division

okay ahhh i think i have found out maybe 4 the thousandth time why the programming on WWE is sub par. After watching smackdown tonight it gets a big SMH cause they play the audience like they are dumb.

during the match between orton and henry, big show's music hits rendering mark henry losing focus on the match and he loses. then goes 2 the "audio tech" and destroys the equipment making it "impossible" 2 play entrance music for the wrestlers oops sports entertainers.

next match daniel o'bryan ..no music ..

later a promo with christian and teddy long where teddy accuses christian of going 2 the production truck and having them play big show's music.

ONCE THIS IS SAID...BINGO NOW WE HAVE MUSIC AND ENTRANCE THEMEMS 4 THE REST OF THE SHOW! wow all u had 2 do was go 2 the production truck? REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

but back 2 the o'bryan match..daniel i like what u bring u got technical skills i'm with u on that but my man, if your gonna SELL a injury then FUCKING SELL IT!! acting like u have a seperated shoulder without someone popping it back in, and even then ur not gonna have that much strength in your arm, so STOP faking a injury where u then can amazingly start lifting ur opponent, running around the ring like everything is fine then grabbing your shoulder like it's in pain. Dude Triple H pulled his quad and one could tell really that he was hurt but he finished the match. LEARN SON! LEARN! but that's the WWE for ya these days, playing the audience ...dumb.

and i liked the raw rebound where they highlighted cm punks shoot and editied it with other random images..yeah he's "suspended" alright lol

You guys know they released Chavo Guerrero

bboy87 said:

You guys know they released Chavo Guerrero

Yup, released him last week. I think it was time. They should've released him last year instead of putting him through that Hornswoggle bullshit.

Here's hoping he lands on his feet somehwere. If not TNA, where his uncle Hector is, than the Indies.

I don't think his wrestling career is over.

L4OATheOriginal said:

but back 2 the o'bryan match..daniel i like what u bring u got technical skills i'm with u on that but my man, if your gonna SELL a injury then FUCKING SELL IT!! acting like u have a seperated shoulder without someone popping it back in, and even then ur not gonna have that much strength in your arm, so STOP faking a injury where u then can amazingly start lifting ur opponent, running around the ring like everything is fine then grabbing your shoulder like it's in pain. Dude Triple H pulled his quad and one could tell really that he was hurt but he finished the match. LEARN SON! LEARN! but that's the WWE for ya these days, playing the audience ...dumb.

I don't know where you're getting this from. Daniel Bryan is one of the best sellers in the business.

He doesn't need to "learn" how to do anything. Especially not from anyone in the WWE, with the exception of the old dudes like William Regal (who trained him).

A majority of the guys in the WWE don't know how to sell, but Bryan isn't one of them.

bboy87 said:

You guys know they released Chavo Guerrero

Not surprised.

L4OATheOriginal said:

okay ahhh i think i have found out maybe 4 the thousandth time why the programming on WWE is sub par. After watching smackdown tonight it gets a big SMH cause they play the audience like they are dumb.

during the match between orton and henry, big show's music hits rendering mark henry losing focus on the match and he loses. then goes 2 the "audio tech" and destroys the equipment making it "impossible" 2 play entrance music for the wrestlers oops sports entertainers.

next match daniel o'bryan ..no music ..

later a promo with christian and teddy long where teddy accuses christian of going 2 the production truck and having them play big show's music.

ONCE THIS IS SAID...BINGO NOW WE HAVE MUSIC AND ENTRANCE THEMEMS 4 THE REST OF THE SHOW! wow all u had 2 do was go 2 the production truck? REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

but back 2 the o'bryan match..daniel i like what u bring u got technical skills i'm with u on that but my man, if your gonna SELL a injury then FUCKING SELL IT!! acting like u have a seperated shoulder without someone popping it back in, and even then ur not gonna have that much strength in your arm, so STOP faking a injury where u then can amazingly start lifting ur opponent, running around the ring like everything is fine then grabbing your shoulder like it's in pain. Dude Triple H pulled his quad and one could tell really that he was hurt but he finished the match. LEARN SON! LEARN! but that's the WWE for ya these days, playing the audience ...dumb.

and i liked the raw rebound where they highlighted cm punks shoot and editied it with other random images..yeah he's "suspended" alright lol

Smackdown is so fucking tacky...

[Edited 7/1/11 23:23pm]

L4OATheOriginal said:

okay ahhh i think i have found out maybe 4 the thousandth time why the programming on WWE is sub par. After watching smackdown tonight it gets a big SMH cause they play the audience like they are dumb.

during the match between orton and henry, big show's music hits rendering mark henry losing focus on the match and he loses. then goes 2 the "audio tech" and destroys the equipment making it "impossible" 2 play entrance music for the wrestlers oops sports entertainers.

next match daniel o'bryan ..no music ..

later a promo with christian and teddy long where teddy accuses christian of going 2 the production truck and having them play big show's music.

ONCE THIS IS SAID...BINGO NOW WE HAVE MUSIC AND ENTRANCE THEMEMS 4 THE REST OF THE SHOW! wow all u had 2 do was go 2 the production truck? REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

but back 2 the o'bryan match..daniel i like what u bring u got technical skills i'm with u on that but my man, if your gonna SELL a injury then FUCKING SELL IT!! acting like u have a seperated shoulder without someone popping it back in, and even then ur not gonna have that much strength in your arm, so STOP faking a injury where u then can amazingly start lifting ur opponent, running around the ring like everything is fine then grabbing your shoulder like it's in pain. Dude Triple H pulled his quad and one could tell really that he was hurt but he finished the match. LEARN SON! LEARN! but that's the WWE for ya these days, playing the audience ...dumb.

and i liked the raw rebound where they highlighted cm punks shoot and editied it with other random images..yeah he's "suspended" alright lol

Well, to give them credit, one would think that a multi-million corporation like the WWE would have a back-up sound board in case of "emergencies". So, I guess it's not in the realm of possibility that during the Bryan match they ran around trying to the backup up and running.

Although I think Bryan is one helluva industry veteran, I DID notice how his shoulder miraculously healed, after damn near sobbing about it, as the match wore on. But, that's what they always do, so I guess I'm used to it.

What was funny about the whole Raw thing is after that Raw Rebound, Cole's saying he has it on good authority that McMahon was going to be at Raw this coming Monday to address the Punk situation. Um, yeah. They just taped it the day prior, of which he was also a commentator on. So yeah, he SHOULD have it on "good authority" he's gonna be there. SMH

Timmy84 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

okay ahhh i think i have found out maybe 4 the thousandth time why the programming on WWE is sub par. After watching smackdown tonight it gets a big SMH cause they play the audience like they are dumb.

during the match between orton and henry, big show's music hits rendering mark henry losing focus on the match and he loses. then goes 2 the "audio tech" and destroys the equipment making it "impossible" 2 play entrance music for the wrestlers oops sports entertainers.

next match daniel o'bryan ..no music ..

later a promo with christian and teddy long where teddy accuses christian of going 2 the production truck and having them play big show's music.

ONCE THIS IS SAID...BINGO NOW WE HAVE MUSIC AND ENTRANCE THEMEMS 4 THE REST OF THE SHOW! wow all u had 2 do was go 2 the production truck? REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

but back 2 the o'bryan match..daniel i like what u bring u got technical skills i'm with u on that but my man, if your gonna SELL a injury then FUCKING SELL IT!! acting like u have a seperated shoulder without someone popping it back in, and even then ur not gonna have that much strength in your arm, so STOP faking a injury where u then can amazingly start lifting ur opponent, running around the ring like everything is fine then grabbing your shoulder like it's in pain. Dude Triple H pulled his quad and one could tell really that he was hurt but he finished the match. LEARN SON! LEARN! but that's the WWE for ya these days, playing the audience ...dumb.

and i liked the raw rebound where they highlighted cm punks shoot and editied it with other random images..yeah he's "suspended" alright lol

Smackdown is so fucking tacky...

[Edited 7/1/11 23:23pm]

and thats why if i miss it i don't care ..but raw i might get a little bent lol

alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

okay ahhh i think i have found out maybe 4 the thousandth time why the programming on WWE is sub par. After watching smackdown tonight it gets a big SMH cause they play the audience like they are dumb.

during the match between orton and henry, big show's music hits rendering mark henry losing focus on the match and he loses. then goes 2 the "audio tech" and destroys the equipment making it "impossible" 2 play entrance music for the wrestlers oops sports entertainers.

next match daniel o'bryan ..no music ..

later a promo with christian and teddy long where teddy accuses christian of going 2 the production truck and having them play big show's music.

ONCE THIS IS SAID...BINGO NOW WE HAVE MUSIC AND ENTRANCE THEMEMS 4 THE REST OF THE SHOW! wow all u had 2 do was go 2 the production truck? REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

but back 2 the o'bryan match..daniel i like what u bring u got technical skills i'm with u on that but my man, if your gonna SELL a injury then FUCKING SELL IT!! acting like u have a seperated shoulder without someone popping it back in, and even then ur not gonna have that much strength in your arm, so STOP faking a injury where u then can amazingly start lifting ur opponent, running around the ring like everything is fine then grabbing your shoulder like it's in pain. Dude Triple H pulled his quad and one could tell really that he was hurt but he finished the match. LEARN SON! LEARN! but that's the WWE for ya these days, playing the audience ...dumb.

and i liked the raw rebound where they highlighted cm punks shoot and editied it with other random images..yeah he's "suspended" alright lol

Well, to give them credit, one would think that a multi-million corporation like the WWE would have a back-up sound board in case of "emergencies". So, I guess it's not in the realm of possibility that during the Bryan match they ran around trying to the backup up and running.

Although I think Bryan is one helluva industry veteran, I DID notice how his shoulder miraculously healed, after damn near sobbing about it, as the match wore on. But, that's what they always do, so I guess I'm used to it.

What was funny about the whole Raw thing is after that Raw Rebound, Cole's saying he has it on good authority that McMahon was going to be at Raw this coming Monday to address the Punk situation. Um, yeah. They just taped it the day prior, of which he was also a commentator on. So yeah, he SHOULD have it on "good authority" he's gonna be there. SMH

exactly! i know bumps can go wrong but damn lol ..

and after watching the shoots from cm punk, paul heyman and joey styles this week, i was listening 2 the "commentaries" and maybe i was just trying 2 hear better this week but, all 3 of those shoots were DEAD on about how they don't talk about the moves anymore just the finishing move or an occasional drop kick. and cole is a annoying ass

(video of the incident, bought n paid for, on their site.)