Smackdown is almost like a developmental territory to me. If you notice, most of the wrestlers being called up from FCW usually go to SD. Then, if the crowd really takes to them and they're successful, they move them to Raw.
They should just have it like it was back in the day. There's not enough talent to warrant two exclusive brands anymore. They can still have two championships if they want to, but just end the whole draft idea and let storylines freely flow. What's stupid is that they're actually unofficially doing it with letting non-champion SD guys just waltz onto Raw at any ol' time and vice versa. But they're still holding onto the show exclusivity.
Time to give it up, Vince. But he's got too much of an ego to do it.
very well noted cause it's amazing how someone from smackdown shows up on RAW when they should be on smackdown exclusive. like sin cara is he on raw or smackdown? wth? if smackdown is the developmental program it can be looked at people like orton are the top draw people so the arena is sold.
oh speaking of which there is a WWE event heading my way that is scheduled for the week after the next PPV and they are advertising a match randy orton vs christian 4 the title with bret hart as the special guest referee
Yeah, and look at Mark Henry. He's been appearing on each show for the past couple of weeks like it's nothing. Del Rio was doing it too, along with the Big Show. There's no real draw on SD, save for Orton, Christian (and McMahon doesn't even think he's a real draw), Cara, and maybe Sheamus. Kane is too old now and is just being used to put people over. And this is Henry's 15th monster heel push, so it illicits a big yawn from me. It's like two wrestlers away from being a double hour of the WWE Superstars show.
Bret Hart as a special guest referee, huh? Is the show a SD taping?
Here's another good "shoot" from Heyman, though not as good as the one I posted before from 2001:
Is it me, or is this basically a two-man thread now?
nah it's a house event but they are showing randy orton as the champion which makes me think that christian once again will get screwed out of the championship on the next ppv *tho card is subject 2 change*
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
nah it's a house event but they are showing randy orton as the champion which makes me think that christian once again will get screwed out of the championship on the next ppv *tho card is subject 2 change*
Well, they need to give the belt back to Christian and away from Orton or Sheamus for a while. But to be honest, this Orton/Christian feud is losing its edge and is being drawn out. It's getting boring, so at this next PPV, they should have Christian "finally" get his win over Orton and move on to a new opponent.
Who might that be, one would ask? And see, that's where the thin-ness of the SD roster shows. Who's a big, top face that could challenge for the main event belt besides Orton? Sin Cara? Nope, not yet anyway. Kane? Too old. Daniel Bryan? Not ready. Sheamus is gonna have to turn face or somethin'. Either that or finally bring the Undertaker's ass back from his extended "vacation". Lol!
nah it's a house event but they are showing randy orton as the champion which makes me think that christian once again will get screwed out of the championship on the next ppv *tho card is subject 2 change*
Well, they need to give the belt back to Christian and away from Orton or Sheamus for a while. But to be honest, this Orton/Christian feud is losing its edge and is being drawn out. It's getting boring, so at this next PPV, they should have Christian "finally" get his win over Orton and move on to a new opponent.
Who might that be, one would ask? And see, that's where the thin-ness of the SD roster shows. Who's a big, top face that could challenge for the main event belt besides Orton? Sin Cara? Nope, not yet anyway. Kane? Too old. Daniel Bryan? Not ready. Sheamus is gonna have to turn face or somethin'. Either that or finally bring the Undertaker's ass back from his extended "vacation". Lol!
the only way is 2 make christian a face again buy going up against mark henry i guess
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
Do you guys think that with the huge response that Punk's promo has gotten, that this signals a change in the WWE?
I don't really think so.
The WWE didn't really change after Heyman cut that promo on Vince.
It didn't change after Joey Styles cut that same kind of promo.
The "status quo" guys like Cena and Orton are still gonna be there.
I just think it was an incredibly well done worked shoot promo to set up an upcoming Pay Per View Event.
I don't necessarily think it's gonna change the way the WWE does business.
I remember re-watching the Heyman promo 2 years ago felt they ruined it with Taz attacking Paul afterwards and of course, the fans booing Paul during it
If they had been in Philly, he would've been cheered
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
Do you guys think that with the huge response that Punk's promo has gotten, that this signals a change in the WWE?
Nope, not one bit. This was pretty much a "lightening" type situation. It's not gonna strike again, even if they wanted it to. Plus, as long as they're making money from these advertisers who're just loving all the damn kids this PG era attracts, Vince won't feel a need to change a thing. And that's so sad. We're going to continue to have Super Cena/Orton look nearly invincible. They can't even make the other belts in the organization look like they mean anything. I have to remind myself who the US & Intercontinental champs are these days. And we never saw the tag team champs on TV for 2-3 weeks prior to this past Monday, and they were just used for Sweet Chin Music victims. LOL!
Batista even said a couple of days ago via his Twitter that he absolutely HATED this "PG crap", and I'm sure there are others who're on the roster who feel the exact same way. Once Punk leaves (if he hasn't truly re-signed already), everythign will be just as bland as before.
Well, they need to give the belt back to Christian and away from Orton or Sheamus for a while. But to be honest, this Orton/Christian feud is losing its edge and is being drawn out. It's getting boring, so at this next PPV, they should have Christian "finally" get his win over Orton and move on to a new opponent.
Who might that be, one would ask? And see, that's where the thin-ness of the SD roster shows. Who's a big, top face that could challenge for the main event belt besides Orton? Sin Cara? Nope, not yet anyway. Kane? Too old. Daniel Bryan? Not ready. Sheamus is gonna have to turn face or somethin'. Either that or finally bring the Undertaker's ass back from his extended "vacation". Lol!
the only way is 2 make christian a face again buy going up against mark henry i guess
That would absolutely KILL Christian's career if they had him turn yet again. They wouldn't do that. Still though, they're hurtin' for some quality people on that show, so they need to just end this useless brand extension.
Do you guys think that with the huge response that Punk's promo has gotten, that this signals a change in the WWE?
Nope, not one bit. This was pretty much a "lightening" type situation. It's not gonna strike again, even if they wanted it to. Plus, as long as they're making money from these advertisers who're just loving all the damn kids this PG era attracts, Vince won't feel a need to change a thing. And that's so sad. We're going to continue to have Super Cena/Orton look nearly invincible. They can't even make the other belts in the organization look like they mean anything. I have to remind myself who the US & Intercontinental champs are these days. And we never saw the tag team champs on TV for 2-3 weeks prior to this past Monday, and they were just used for Sweet Chin Music victims. LOL!
Batista even said a couple of days ago via his Twitter that he absolutely HATED this "PG crap", and I'm sure there are others who're on the roster who feel the exact same way. Once Punk leaves (if he hasn't truly re-signed already), everythign will be just as bland as before.
I can't stand it when people constantly bitch about the WWE being "PG", because with the exception of the Attitude Era and a few years afterward, the WWE has ALWAYS been "PG"!
It's always catered to kids and families.
When people constantly bitch and bitch about it, it makes me think they don't truly have a grasp on history.
The WWE being "PG" or not "PG" isn't really gonna change anything.
Even though CM Punk was good and most likely gaining new fans I don’t think they are going to allow him to reached to where Austin and Rock was (there will never be another like these two) not even John Cena I don’t feel.
Nope, not one bit. This was pretty much a "lightening" type situation. It's not gonna strike again, even if they wanted it to. Plus, as long as they're making money from these advertisers who're just loving all the damn kids this PG era attracts, Vince won't feel a need to change a thing. And that's so sad. We're going to continue to have Super Cena/Orton look nearly invincible. They can't even make the other belts in the organization look like they mean anything. I have to remind myself who the US & Intercontinental champs are these days. And we never saw the tag team champs on TV for 2-3 weeks prior to this past Monday, and they were just used for Sweet Chin Music victims. LOL!
Batista even said a couple of days ago via his Twitter that he absolutely HATED this "PG crap", and I'm sure there are others who're on the roster who feel the exact same way. Once Punk leaves (if he hasn't truly re-signed already), everythign will be just as bland as before.
I can't stand it when people constantly bitch about the WWE being "PG", because with the exception of the Attitude Era and a few years afterward, the WWE has ALWAYS been "PG"!
It's always catered to kids and families.
When people constantly bitch and bitch about it, it makes me think they don't truly have a grasp on history.
The WWE being "PG" or not "PG" isn't really gonna change anything.
And people forget that the Attitude Era had it's cringeworthy moments too, remember Mae Young giving birth to a hand?
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
I can't stand it when people constantly bitch about the WWE being "PG", because with the exception of the Attitude Era and a few years afterward, the WWE has ALWAYS been "PG"!
It's always catered to kids and families.
When people constantly bitch and bitch about it, it makes me think they don't truly have a grasp on history.
The WWE being "PG" or not "PG" isn't really gonna change anything.
And people forget that the Attitude Era had it's cringeworthy moments too, remember Mae Young giving birth to a hand?
Yes but honestly those were the last good years for WWE.
And people forget that the Attitude Era had it's cringeworthy moments too, remember Mae Young giving birth to a hand?
Yes but honestly those were the last good years for WWE.
No they weren't. I could probably say the match quality from 2002-2004 after the Attitude Era were better than the match quality from the Attitude Era.
Yes but honestly those were the last good years for WWE.
No they weren't. I could probably say the match quality from 2002-2004 after the Attitude Era were better than the match quality from the Attitude Era.
I said the last good years not the year 2000 to 2005 were decent imo. And that incident was in fact around 2000 ish. I take that hand over any bull they doing now seriously.
I can't stand it when people constantly bitch about the WWE being "PG", because with the exception of the Attitude Era and a few years afterward, the WWE has ALWAYS been "PG"!
It's always catered to kids and families.
When people constantly bitch and bitch about it, it makes me think they don't truly have a grasp on history.
The WWE being "PG" or not "PG" isn't really gonna change anything.
And people forget that the Attitude Era had it's cringeworthy moments too, remember Mae Young giving birth to a hand?
Yeah, it had some cringe worthy moments, but at least the Attitude Era TRIED. They tried to think outside the box and do different things. Not necessarily just one formula and stay with it and run it into the ground over and over again.
Besides, AE had way more great moments than not/cringe worthy.
Nope, not one bit. This was pretty much a "lightening" type situation. It's not gonna strike again, even if they wanted it to. Plus, as long as they're making money from these advertisers who're just loving all the damn kids this PG era attracts, Vince won't feel a need to change a thing. And that's so sad. We're going to continue to have Super Cena/Orton look nearly invincible. They can't even make the other belts in the organization look like they mean anything. I have to remind myself who the US & Intercontinental champs are these days. And we never saw the tag team champs on TV for 2-3 weeks prior to this past Monday, and they were just used for Sweet Chin Music victims. LOL!
Batista even said a couple of days ago via his Twitter that he absolutely HATED this "PG crap", and I'm sure there are others who're on the roster who feel the exact same way. Once Punk leaves (if he hasn't truly re-signed already), everythign will be just as bland as before.
I can't stand it when people constantly bitch about the WWE being "PG", because with the exception of the Attitude Era and a few years afterward, the WWE has ALWAYS been "PG"!
It's always catered to kids and families.
When people constantly bitch and bitch about it, it makes me think they don't truly have a grasp on history.
The WWE being "PG" or not "PG" isn't really gonna change anything.
Yes, it was mostly directed towards kids for most of its existence, BUT that was back then. The times we live have changed since then, and the sport should change and evolve too. I'm not saying to turn it into a porn film, but it can stand to be a bit more "real". Advertisers LOVE that coveted 18-35 YO demographic, and if they could just find and straddle that fine line between something "decent" and something that would get it in trouble every week and have advertisers scared to advertise on it, it would be for the best.
People (the audience) are leaving the WWE in droves and hoping aboard the MMA ship, and it's because it's got that edge to it (look at the buyrates and compare them to WWE's. Besides Wrestlemania, the E's buyrates are God awful!!). That reality feel. Granted, it's because it is indeed real, but it's also got a certain edge to it that wrestling could very well attain too if they did it right. And they could STILL be hella profitable!!
nah it's a house event but they are showing randy orton as the champion which makes me think that christian once again will get screwed out of the championship on the next ppv *tho card is subject 2 change*
Well, they need to give the belt back to Christian and away from Orton or Sheamus for a while. But to be honest, this Orton/Christian feud is losing its edge and is being drawn out. It's getting boring, so at this next PPV, they should have Christian "finally" get his win over Orton and move on to a new opponent.
Who might that be, one would ask? And see, that's where the thin-ness of the SD roster shows. Who's a big, top face that could challenge for the main event belt besides Orton? Sin Cara? Nope, not yet anyway. Kane? Too old. Daniel Bryan? Not ready. Sheamus is gonna have to turn face or somethin'. Either that or finally bring the Undertaker's ass back from his extended "vacation". Lol!
Sorry but Christian just doesn't have the "it" thing to be a singles world champion. He has
zero charisma. He's worse than the late Chris Benoit was when it comes to personality but
the difference was Chris Benoit was one tough son of a bitch and was a very good technical
wrestler. I don't know if Edge left to do movies or spend family time but they really need him
back in lieu of Christian being the so called main eventer.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
Well, they need to give the belt back to Christian and away from Orton or Sheamus for a while. But to be honest, this Orton/Christian feud is losing its edge and is being drawn out. It's getting boring, so at this next PPV, they should have Christian "finally" get his win over Orton and move on to a new opponent.
Who might that be, one would ask? And see, that's where the thin-ness of the SD roster shows. Who's a big, top face that could challenge for the main event belt besides Orton? Sin Cara? Nope, not yet anyway. Kane? Too old. Daniel Bryan? Not ready. Sheamus is gonna have to turn face or somethin'. Either that or finally bring the Undertaker's ass back from his extended "vacation". Lol!
Sorry but Christian just doesn't have the "it" thing to be a singles world champion. He has
zero charisma. He's worse than the late Chris Benoit was when it comes to personality but
the difference was Chris Benoit was one tough son of a bitch and was a very good technical
wrestler. I don't know if Edge left to do movies or spend family time but they really need him
back in lieu of Christian being the so called main eventer.
Edge officially retired because he was told by doctors he could be paralyzed if he took a bump on his back the wrong way. So, they would not clear him to wrestle, and he had to retire. He was experiencing numbness in his arms and hands and shit. This happened right after Wrestlemania.
Christian has PLENTY of charisma though, dude. In fact, his nickname is actually Captain Charisma! Do you remember when darn near the whole IWC was up in arms when he lost the title two days after winning it in that ladder match?? A LOT of people are diggin' this guy, and I'm surely one of 'em! He makes for one helluva heel. Look up some of his antics on YouTube when he was a heel a few years ago before he went over to TNA and he was teaming with Chris Jericho and had Tomko as his bodyguard. Good, funny stuff.
And you wanna talk about somebody lacking charisma? Look no further than the current champ, Orton. Watching him cut a promo is more boring than watching paint dry, and that whole "viper" gimmick and crawling around he does looks RIDICULOUS.
Well, they need to give the belt back to Christian and away from Orton or Sheamus for a while. But to be honest, this Orton/Christian feud is losing its edge and is being drawn out. It's getting boring, so at this next PPV, they should have Christian "finally" get his win over Orton and move on to a new opponent.
Who might that be, one would ask? And see, that's where the thin-ness of the SD roster shows. Who's a big, top face that could challenge for the main event belt besides Orton? Sin Cara? Nope, not yet anyway. Kane? Too old. Daniel Bryan? Not ready. Sheamus is gonna have to turn face or somethin'. Either that or finally bring the Undertaker's ass back from his extended "vacation". Lol!
Sorry but Christian just doesn't have the "it" thing to be a singles world champion. He has
zero charisma. He's worse than the late Chris Benoit was when it comes to personality but
the difference was Chris Benoit was one tough son of a bitch and was a very good technical
wrestler. I don't know if Edge left to do movies or spend family time but they really need him
back in lieu of Christian being the so called main eventer.
Christian has "zero" charisma???
He's got a LOT more charisma than the dude who's holding the World Title on Smackdown right now!
I'd probably say Christian is one of the most charismatic guys in the entire company.
Christian may not have the "look", but to say he's not charismatic is just foolish.
Yes but honestly those were the last good years for WWE.
No they weren't. I could probably say the match quality from 2002-2004 after the Attitude Era were better than the match quality from the Attitude Era.
the only way is 2 make christian a face again buy going up against mark henry i guess
That would absolutely KILL Christian's career if they had him turn yet again. They wouldn't do that. Still though, they're hurtin' for some quality people on that show, so they need to just end this useless brand extension.
ever since the brand extension i haven't seen a live event other than ECW coming 2 my local area and it was the last time kurt angle worked in the WWE
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
I can't stand it when people constantly bitch about the WWE being "PG", because with the exception of the Attitude Era and a few years afterward, the WWE has ALWAYS been "PG"!
It's always catered to kids and families.
When people constantly bitch and bitch about it, it makes me think they don't truly have a grasp on history.
The WWE being "PG" or not "PG" isn't really gonna change anything.
And people forget that the Attitude Era had it's cringeworthy moments too, remember Mae Young giving birth to a hand?
yeah i was live at msg when that happend urrgghhhh
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
yeah i was live at msg when that happend urrgghhhh
Damn that must've been revolting. I had to admit that was REAL disgusting.
it was one of those moments where u sat in the audience looking at each other with a WTF look and saying "u mean they wasted time on that instead of giving us a match?"
oh wait they still do that today
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
Damn that must've been revolting. I had to admit that was REAL disgusting.
it was one of those moments where u sat in the audience looking at each other with a WTF look and saying "u mean they wasted time on that instead of giving us a match?"
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2000 to 2005 were decent imo. And that incident was in fact around 2000 ish. I take that hand over any bull they doing now seriously.
