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Reply #180 posted 06/28/11 5:06am

alexnvrmnd777

L4OATheOriginal said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Okay, I definitely know it was a worked shoot. They showed the Raw logo with all the copyright shit at 11:00. They ALWAYS show it at the very end just as the show fades to black.

But they didn't this time because they knew they were going to "abruptly" kill the feed. Like I said, either way this is one helluva angle that ONLY CM Punk could pull off. It was funny though when he was trying to draw more heat by putting down his own fans by saying they were a part of why he was leaving too.

i wonder what duane has 2 say about that rant falloff

Well, with the fact that Rock is indeed in the main event at WM 28 and hasn't done shit to advance the Cena vs. Rock storyline since MAYBE his birthday show, I completely understand where Punk's coming from. Here he is busting his ass on a weekly basis, and the Rock comes in for a couple of appearances and automatically gets the main event slot at the next WM. And he (Rock) ain't doin' jack with that in the meantime. He doesn't show up to Raws, PPVs, or anything. At least not yet, but they HAVE to get ppl more interested in the match by not letting them forget that they have a problem with on another.

And Cena and Rock tweeting a couple of things back and forth a couple of times a month does NOT count. lol So, Rock really shouldn't have too much shit to say, to be honest.

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Reply #181 posted 06/28/11 5:07am

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I just watched it

COT DAMN! THAT WAS THE BEST PROMO I'VE SEEN SINCE PAUL HEYMAN'S PROMO AT VINCE IN 2002! faint

CM PUNK FTW

Although I think they knew he was gonna go out there and go all out, I don't think they expected him to go that far lol hey if they did, I don't care, I'm marking out right now lol

[Edited 6/27/11 22:02pm]

oh shit i forgot about paul's rant at vince ..gotta try and find that on youtube

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #182 posted 06/28/11 5:09am

alexnvrmnd777

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I just watched it

COT DAMN! THAT WAS THE BEST PROMO I'VE SEEN SINCE PAUL HEYMAN'S PROMO AT VINCE IN 2002! faint

CM PUNK FTW

Although I think they knew he was gonna go out there and go all out, I don't think they expected him to go that far lol hey if they did, I don't care, I'm marking out right now lol

[Edited 6/27/11 22:02pm]

You and me both, bruh!!!! They're REALLY trying to make it look like he's actually suspended or no longer going to be working there, even before MITB. I'll give them that much!

And I had forgotten all about that Heyman promo on Vince on Smackdown (I think). Now that shit was indeed the truth too!!

I wonder what's happening now for the Raw tapings for next week.... *goes off to find some spoilers*

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Reply #183 posted 06/28/11 5:09am

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

i wonder what duane has 2 say about that rant falloff

Well, with the fact that Rock is indeed in the main event at WM 28 and hasn't done shit to advance the Cena vs. Rock storyline since MAYBE his birthday show, I completely understand where Punk's coming from. Here he is busting his ass on a weekly basis, and the Rock comes in for a couple of appearances and automatically gets the main event slot at the next WM. And he (Rock) ain't doin' jack with that in the meantime. He doesn't show up to Raws, PPVs, or anything. At least not yet, but they HAVE to get ppl more interested in the match by not letting them forget that they have a problem with on another.

And Cena and Rock tweeting a couple of things back and forth a couple of times a month does NOT count. lol So, Rock really shouldn't have too much shit to say, to be honest.

i also thought it was interesting how punk had on a stone cold shirt like maybe paying a homage to him? somewhere i feel that stone cold was grinning ear 2 ear about this lol

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #184 posted 06/28/11 5:12am

alexnvrmnd777

L4OATheOriginal said:

bboy87 said:

I just watched it

COT DAMN! THAT WAS THE BEST PROMO I'VE SEEN SINCE PAUL HEYMAN'S PROMO AT VINCE IN 2002! faint

CM PUNK FTW

Although I think they knew he was gonna go out there and go all out, I don't think they expected him to go that far lol hey if they did, I don't care, I'm marking out right now lol

[Edited 6/27/11 22:02pm]

oh shit i forgot about paul's rant at vince ..gotta try and find that on youtube

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Reply #185 posted 06/28/11 5:25am

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

oh shit i forgot about paul's rant at vince ..gotta try and find that on youtube

u da man!!

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #186 posted 06/28/11 5:36am

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Punk's promo was definitely the best worked shoot of all-time. When he started mentioning ROH, Colt Cabana, and NJPW, I got as giddy as a school girl!

Raw has a double taping tonight, so I've already read the spoilers. All I can say is stay tuned!

Getting back to Punk, I definitely agree with a lot of what he said. Especially when he went after Stephanie McMahon and Johhny "Ace" Laurinaitis! The 2 of them are the main reason why the WWE is the way it is today.

JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #187 posted 06/28/11 5:40am

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Paris9748430 said:

Punk's promo was definitely the best worked shoot of all-time. When he started mentioning ROH, Colt Cabana, and NJPW, I got as giddy as a school girl!

Raw has a double taping tonight, so I've already read the spoilers. All I can say is stay tuned!

Getting back to Punk, I definitely agree with a lot of what he said. Especially when he went after Stephanie McMahon and Johhny "Ace" Laurinaitis! The 2 of them are the main reason why the WWE is the way it is today.

I was sitting there thinking

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lol

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Reply #188 posted 06/28/11 5:55am

alexnvrmnd777

Paris9748430 said:

Punk's promo was definitely the best worked shoot of all-time. When he started mentioning ROH, Colt Cabana, and NJPW, I got as giddy as a school girl!

Raw has a double taping tonight, so I've already read the spoilers. All I can say is stay tuned!

Getting back to Punk, I definitely agree with a lot of what he said. Especially when he went after Stephanie McMahon and Johhny "Ace" Laurinaitis! The 2 of them are the main reason why the WWE is the way it is today.

I just read the spoilers, and indeed it was just as I said. A work. A greatly played one, though. I hope there's a huge payoff to this whole thing. I mean, WWE has a rep for having stories and matches handed to them on a silver platter, only to fuck them up in the end. disbelief

Minor spoiler:

I can't stand Cena sometimes!!!! He had to go ruin what was a great "real fan's" moment (Punk's promo), and fuck it up with his input and "stamp of approval". Arrrggghhh!

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Reply #189 posted 06/28/11 6:08am

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Here's The Entire Transcript of CM Punk's Promo on WWE Monday Night Raw!

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The Controversial WWE Superstar Delivers The Most Shocking Shoot Promo in Years!

Thanks to several of our HUSTLETWEETERS who transcribed CM PUNK's amazing shoot promo from WWE Monday Night Raw just two hours ago!

John Cena, while you lay there, hopefully as uncomfortable as you possibly can be, I want you to listen to me.


I want you to digest this because before I leave in 3 weeks with your WWE Championship, I have a lot of things I want to get off my chest.


I don’t hate you, John. I don’t even dislike you. I do like you. I like you a hell of a lot more than I like most people in the back.

I hate this idea that you’re the best. Because you’re not. I’m the best. I’m the best in the world. There’s one thing you’re better at than I am and that’s kissing Vince McMahon’s ass.


You’re as good as kissing Vince McMahon’s ass as Hulk Hogan was. I don’t know if you’re as good as Dwayne though. He’s a pretty good ass kisser. Always was and still is.


Whoops! I’m breaking the fourth wall! (Punk waves to the camera)

I am the best wrestler in the world.

I’ve been the best since day one when I walked into this company. And I’ve been vilified and hated since that day because Paul Heyman saw something in me that nobody else wanted to admit. That’s right, I’m a Paul Heyman guy. You know who else was a Paul Heyman guy? Brock Lesnar. And he split just like I’m splitting. But the biggest difference between me and Brock is I’m going to leave with the WWE Championship.

I’ve grabbed so many of Vincent K. McMahon’s brass rings that it’s finally dawned on me that there just that, they’re completely imaginary. The only thing that’s real is me and the fact that day in and day out, for almost six years, I have proved to everybody in the world that I am the best on this microphone, in that ring, even in commentary! Nobody can touch me!

And yet no matter how many times I prove it, I’m not on your lovely little collector cups. I’m not on the cover of the program. I’m barely promoted. I don't get to be in movies. I’m certainly not on any crappy show on the USA Network. I’m not on the poster of WrestleMania. I’m not on the signature that’s produced at the start of the show. I’m not on Conan O’Brian. I’m not on Jimmy Fallon. But the fact of the matter is, I should be.

This isn’t sour grapes. But the fact that Dwayne is in the main event at WrestleMania next year and I’m not makes me sick!

Oh hey, let me get something straight. Those of you who are cheering me right now, you are just as big a part of me leaving as anything else. Because you’re the ones who are sipping on those collector cups right now. You’re the ones that buy those programs that my face isn’t on the cover of. And then at five in the morning at the airport, you try to shove it in my face and get an autograph and try to sell it on Ebay because you’re too lazy to go get a real job.

I’m leaving with the WWE Championship on July 17th. And hell, who knows, maybe I’ll go defend it in New Japan Pro Wrestling. Maybe…I’ll go back to Ring of Honor.

(Punk looks at the camera and waves)

Hey, Colt Cabana, how you doing?

The reason I’m leaving is you people. Because after I’m gone, you’re still going to pour money into this company. I’m just a spoke on the wheel. The wheel is going to keep turning and I understand that. Vince McMahon is going to make money despite himself. He’s a millionaire who should be a billionaire. You know why he’s not a billionaire? Because he surrounds himself with glad-handed, non-sensical, douchebag (censored) yes men, like John Laurinaitis, who’s going to tell him everything he wants to hear, and I’d like to think that maybe this company will better after Vince McMahon is dead. But the fact is, it’s going to be taken over by his idiotic daughter and his doofus son-in-law and the rest of his stupid family.

Let me tell you a personal story about Vince McMahon alright. We do this whole (anti) bully campaign


Mic cut off.

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Reply #190 posted 06/28/11 6:29am

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Awesome.

I just wish it wasnt a work.

blunt music She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... music blunt
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Reply #191 posted 06/28/11 7:14am

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You're all too old to be watching Wrestling --->period<---

Yeah I said it, now WHO GON POP ME?!

razz

surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #192 posted 06/28/11 8:53am

Timmy84

KidaDynamite said:

You're all too old to be watching Wrestling --->period<---

Yeah I said it, now WHO GON POP ME?!

razz

No one is. smile

Basically I think wrestling got too old for me. neutral

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Reply #193 posted 06/28/11 8:59am

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KidaDynamite said:

You're all too old to be watching Wrestling --->period<---

Yeah I said it, now WHO GON POP ME?!

razz

cuts Kida with Alexander O'Neal's ashy lips

evillol

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Reply #194 posted 06/28/11 9:04am

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

KidaDynamite said:

You're all too old to be watching Wrestling --->period<---

Yeah I said it, now WHO GON POP ME?!

razz

cuts Kida with Alexander O'Neal's ashy lips

evillol

lol

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Reply #195 posted 06/28/11 9:47am

alexnvrmnd777

bboy87 said:

KidaDynamite said:

You're all too old to be watching Wrestling --->period<---

Yeah I said it, now WHO GON POP ME?!

razz

cuts Kida with Alexander O'Neal's ashy lips

evillol

Then after that, gum her to death!! cool

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Reply #196 posted 06/28/11 8:43pm

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@Timmy I stopped watching Wrestling around 9-10. I was kidding about the being too old thing but it just doesn't interest me anymore. Boxing is more my speed.
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #197 posted 06/28/11 9:08pm

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bboy87 said:



KidaDynamite said:


You're all too old to be watching Wrestling --->period<---



Yeah I said it, now WHO GON POP ME?!



razz



cuts Kida with Alexander O'Neal's ashy lips




evillol



:spit:
You gonna stop threatening me with Alexander's mouth, son.
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #198 posted 06/28/11 11:40pm

Timmy84

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@Timmy I stopped watching Wrestling around 9-10. I was kidding about the being too old thing but it just doesn't interest me anymore. Boxing is more my speed.

I feel ya.

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Reply #199 posted 06/29/11 12:59am

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http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Backstage_News_on_CM_Punk_s_RAW_Promo_His_Contract_Status_More.html



Posted in: WWE
Backstage News on CM Punk's RAW Promo, His Contract Status & More
By Marc Middleton
Jun 28, 2011 - 6:10:29 PM

- Sources report that CM Punk's entire promo at the end of RAW this week was improvised by Punk and not scripted. Nobody in the back knew what Punk was going to say until he said it live on RAW.

WWE officials told Punk to go out and say in his own words why he was leaving the company, why he wanted the WWE Title and why he wanted to leave with it in his possession. There was a discussion that when officials felt Punk was going too far, they would pull the plug on the segment and cut his mic.

It's said that Punk was upset months ago when Triple H came back to feud with The Undertaker and while some of his comments on RAW towards Vince McMahon were well thought out to appear not as a shoot to the average viewer, most believe that Punk's comments towards Triple H and John Laurinaitis were strictly a shoot.

Word also is that Punk had some notes for his speech jotted down on his wrist tape.

As far as his contract status, Punk's deal apparently expires the second week of July but he signed an extension to work through Money in the Bank. Still with last night's new storyline development, sources maintain that Punk is leaving at Money in the Bank.

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #200 posted 06/29/11 1:29am

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CM punk was good. WWE didn’t know what he was going to say they told him just say what you want.

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Reply #201 posted 06/29/11 1:42am

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bboy87 said:

KidaDynamite said:

You're all too old to be watching Wrestling --->period<---

Yeah I said it, now WHO GON POP ME?!

razz

cuts Kida with Alexander O'Neal's ashy lips

evillol

lol

or his gums

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #202 posted 06/29/11 3:01am

alexnvrmnd777

bboy87 said:

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Backstage_News_on_CM_Punk_s_RAW_Promo_His_Contract_Status_More.html



Posted in: WWE
Backstage News on CM Punk's RAW Promo, His Contract Status & More
By Marc Middleton
Jun 28, 2011 - 6:10:29 PM

- Sources report that CM Punk's entire promo at the end of RAW this week was improvised by Punk and not scripted. Nobody in the back knew what Punk was going to say until he said it live on RAW.

WWE officials told Punk to go out and say in his own words why he was leaving the company, why he wanted the WWE Title and why he wanted to leave with it in his possession. There was a discussion that when officials felt Punk was going too far, they would pull the plug on the segment and cut his mic.

It's said that Punk was upset months ago when Triple H came back to feud with The Undertaker and while some of his comments on RAW towards Vince McMahon were well thought out to appear not as a shoot to the average viewer, most believe that Punk's comments towards Triple H and John Laurinaitis were strictly a shoot.

Word also is that Punk had some notes for his speech jotted down on his wrist tape.

As far as his contract status, Punk's deal apparently expires the second week of July but he signed an extension to work through Money in the Bank. Still with last night's new storyline development, sources maintain that Punk is leaving at Money in the Bank.

Okay, I thought Punk's contract ended in August or September? That's what's been reported for the last few months. Now, all of a sudden, it was over BEFORE July 17, with an extension, even, to take it to the 17th? Now THAT sounds like bullshit.

The part about him not having a script and being told to tell his true feelings I definitely feel was true. They were definitely prepared for if his promo went "overboard" because they showed the ending Raw logo at 11:00 instead right as it fades to black. So, in case they had to pull it off the air, they still filled their copyright mark obligations.

Either way, after reading the spoilers, I hope this doesn't turn Punk to a complete face. I'm sure he's garnered a shitload of new admirers/fans just from that promo alone, but the only time I want him to be a true face is in his hometown of Chicago at MITB.

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Reply #203 posted 06/29/11 3:15am

alexnvrmnd777

Lol! They HAD to put this out because of the spoilers coming from the Raw taping last night. lol

From WWE.com:

UPDATE: As of Tuesday, June 28, WWE and CM Punk have reached an agreement that Punk will fulfill his non-televised live event obligations for the remainder of his contract, through July 17. Furthermore, both sides have mutually agreed not to disparage one another.

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Reply #204 posted 06/29/11 9:09am

alexnvrmnd777

CM Punk Suspended: Wrestlers Discuss Punk’s ‘Shoot’ Promo (Updated)

If you haven’t heard, CM Punk gave a version of a shoot interview that was actually approved by WWE Chairman Vince McMahon as a way of getting buzz around the watercooler for the company heading into the Money in the Bank pay-per-view in mid-July, and a take at a real-life contract dispute by Punk and WWE over whether he will extend his contract with the company after it ends on Monday, July 18. Below are recent tweets from various former and current WWE stars and other wrestlers in regards to Punk’s promo last night.

Stone Cold Steve Austin: “@CMPunk just melted my 52 inch TV with a scorching hot promo…delivery, content, and attitude…one of the best promos I’ve ever seen.”

Shawn Michaels: “2 words 4 @CMPunk- thata boy. Felt like old times. Anywho, back 2 my normal life, tweet u on touchdown:-)”

Jim Ross: “Most compelling, controversial end of Raw in a long time. @cmpunk edgy, attitudinal & full of rage. Don’t know what to think. Wow.”

Mick Foley: “I have no idea where this @cmpunk thing might go, but I know I’ll be watching. Captivating stuff.”

Joey Styles: “Holy crap! I thought I was bad when I was shooting on Vince and the company. OMG! Holy crap!”

Billy Corgan: “@CMPunk that may have been the GREATEST promo i have ever seen…to paraphrase Paul E, ‘you sir, are f’n hardcore’…”

Taz: “Punk did a great job & I always liked him when we were in wwe together and his work! But I must say… There r many of us who were NEVER pushed to the level Punk was & were NEVER allowed to shoot like that, he’s lucky he was allowed to do that. But it was very strong & real!! I liked a lot! Good stuff Punk!”

Colt Cabana: “Colt Cabana’s Trending but @CMPunk should legit trend FOREVER. Coolest thing on wrestling since 1998. Can’t believe theyre gonna let’m walk”

Chris Jericho: “Congrats to @cmpunk and Vince McMahon for doing something tonight that hasn’t been done in awhile…make history.”

Daniel Bryan: “With revolution dripping off his lips with every word, @CMPunk was a god last night.”

Chavo Guerrero: “Did u see @CmPunk promo last night? WOW! If all those things are being said by a guy being used…think how I feel! Good Job Punk!”

Maryse: “@CMPunk for President of the United-States….”

Todd Grisham: “Punk came unhinged tonight. Never seen anything like it in my 8 years @WWE”

JBL: “CM Punk’s promo-shoot or work? Who cares? When you are so good that you can put that doubt in viewers minds you have done your job very well”

MVP: “My verdict after watching the @CMPunk promo, he just had his Austin 3:16 moment. Don’t f–k this one up WWE”

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Reply #205 posted 06/29/11 12:31pm

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@chavo's tweet/comments ..yeah he should feel that way since he was just released

whether it's a promo cut or those were punk's true feelings ..THAT SHIT WAS RAW!! smile

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #206 posted 06/29/11 2:18pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

@chavo's tweet/comments ..yeah he should feel that way since he was just released

whether it's a promo cut or those were punk's true feelings ..THAT SHIT WAS RAW!! smile

Yeah, and I noticed Punk hasn't tweeted anything since before Raw on Monday. On any normal day, he's usually tweeted SOMETHING by now. So, he's laying low because of the afterbuzz, and that's why I think his leaving is one big ass storyline. I think he really re-signed on the low. But, that's just me.

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Reply #207 posted 06/29/11 3:10pm

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

@chavo's tweet/comments ..yeah he should feel that way since he was just released

whether it's a promo cut or those were punk's true feelings ..THAT SHIT WAS RAW!! smile

Yeah, and I noticed Punk hasn't tweeted anything since before Raw on Monday. On any normal day, he's usually tweeted SOMETHING by now. So, he's laying low because of the afterbuzz, and that's why I think his leaving is one big ass storyline. I think he really re-signed on the low. But, that's just me.

and it's this type of buzz that pisses me off that the brands have gone their seperate ways. back in the day whatever happend on Raw carried over 2 smackdown. THIS is the type of storyline that needs 2 continue onto smackdown intead of waiting a full week for RAW.

BAD MOVE THERE VINCE

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #208 posted 06/29/11 3:34pm

alexnvrmnd777

L4OATheOriginal said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Yeah, and I noticed Punk hasn't tweeted anything since before Raw on Monday. On any normal day, he's usually tweeted SOMETHING by now. So, he's laying low because of the afterbuzz, and that's why I think his leaving is one big ass storyline. I think he really re-signed on the low. But, that's just me.

and it's this type of buzz that pisses me off that the brands have gone their seperate ways. back in the day whatever happend on Raw carried over 2 smackdown. THIS is the type of storyline that needs 2 continue onto smackdown intead of waiting a full week for RAW.

BAD MOVE THERE VINCE

Smackdown is almost like a developmental territory to me. If you notice, most of the wrestlers being called up from FCW usually go to SD. Then, if the crowd really takes to them and they're successful, they move them to Raw.

They should just have it like it was back in the day. There's not enough talent to warrant two exclusive brands anymore. They can still have two championships if they want to, but just end the whole draft idea and let storylines freely flow. What's stupid is that they're actually unofficially doing it with letting non-champion SD guys just waltz onto Raw at any ol' time and vice versa. But they're still holding onto the show exclusivity. disbelief

Time to give it up, Vince. But he's got too much of an ego to do it.

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Reply #209 posted 06/29/11 4:17pm

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

and it's this type of buzz that pisses me off that the brands have gone their seperate ways. back in the day whatever happend on Raw carried over 2 smackdown. THIS is the type of storyline that needs 2 continue onto smackdown intead of waiting a full week for RAW.

BAD MOVE THERE VINCE

Smackdown is almost like a developmental territory to me. If you notice, most of the wrestlers being called up from FCW usually go to SD. Then, if the crowd really takes to them and they're successful, they move them to Raw.

They should just have it like it was back in the day. There's not enough talent to warrant two exclusive brands anymore. They can still have two championships if they want to, but just end the whole draft idea and let storylines freely flow. What's stupid is that they're actually unofficially doing it with letting non-champion SD guys just waltz onto Raw at any ol' time and vice versa. But they're still holding onto the show exclusivity. disbelief

Time to give it up, Vince. But he's got too much of an ego to do it.

very well noted cause it's amazing how someone from smackdown shows up on RAW when they should be on smackdown exclusive. like sin cara is he on raw or smackdown? wth? if smackdown is the developmental program it can be looked at people like orton are the top draw people so the arena is sold.

oh speaking of which there is a WWE event heading my way that is scheduled for the week after the next PPV and they are advertising a match randy orton vs christian 4 the title with bret hart as the special guest referee

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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