XNY said:

tinaz said:

So heres just my take on this situation..

Say the airlines do make wider seats, that makes LESS seating which will raise the price of a ticket even MORE... Why should I pay more money because you cant fit in a seat... I am not unsympathetic to her problem, BUT where does it end..

Lat time I flew a couple months ago we had the most irratating mother and her child WHO NEVER SHUT HER MOUTH for the entire flight.. Talking is one thing, but if this girl had nothing to say, shed make shit up... even the mom said "i cant believe you have been up sinc 6 and havent stopped talking the whole time... not to mention the girl always kicking the backs of our seats, and their baby who loved to throw things and scream every 5 minutes when it didnt get his way.. I paid alot of money for those tickets, and it was the worst flight EVER!

So maybe i should contact CNN to push for airlines to have children only flights because I should not have to put up with someone elses unruly children..

You don't have kids I'm guessing. I have 3 little ones. You can't keep a baby quiet no matter what you do. Sorry but that's a part of life. Sometimes you get on a bus, or a plane, or a subway with toddlers and babies.

Kids get unruly. As a parent you try to do everything you can to keep their voices down, to keep them from crying, to stop walking down the aisle, to use inside voices. But you can only do so much.

Try to remember you were a child once. Were you quiet everywhere you went? Of course not. Nor was I. Especially being cramped up on a plane for a few hours. Kids aren't like us. They want to play, and wander, and have fun, and when they get hungry or tired. Watch out.

I've been on both ends by the way. Before I had kids it was hard to understand. I couldn't imagine why my sisters wanted kids. Changing diapers, feeding them bottles, a new bike every two years, and new clothes, hospital bills, cell phones, etc etc. But I wouldn't trade it for the world. Even on a small, cramped airplane.

I have 2 children... we flew both ways from germany when they were both under 3 years old... they knew that kind of behaviour was not allowed... they were never allowed to throw tantrums from the start, so they never did... sure they got bored, but we went prepared...

Spinlight said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Be as big as you want, I could care less. But when your 'condition' invades my space and causes me discomfort on a bus, subway or plane, I'm going to say something about it.

It doesn't invade your space or discomfort.of the people who use them.

It does when you're riding public transportation and some overweight person is practically on top of you because they squeezed in a seat they shouldn't. You're telling me you'd sit there scrunched up and take it, even if you had a long commute? Nonsense

RenHoek said:

paintedlady said:

I understand the profit margin requirements... but they can't do the pay as you weigh thing either.

That means more chances of some screaming kid sitting next to you.

actually I have two of those kids (well... they don't scream... much...) and that weight thing would TOTALLY make it easier for us to visit Italy next summer... right now $1400 roundtrip for a 5yr. old feels kinda butt-rapey...

See? The weight thing works for parents... unless they have a fat kid.

XNY said:

You know when I first read the title of this thread I was pessimistic. Oh here we go. Large person wants to get an extra seat...But if you listen to her, she makes a great point. Americans are larger than we were 50 years ago. The seats are small and uncomfortable to say the least. I weigh 204 lbs, and I'm 6 ft tall. I'm not fat, but I'm not thin either. And it's not easy sitting next to people my same size in coach.

To say it's her fault is not really correct. Americans in general are bigger. We eat bad food, we don't live active lives. Good food is not cheap, getting to the gym is expensive. Having a job behind a desk is not condusive to a healthy lifestyle.

I'm not saying we can't lose weight. I could lose 15 to 20 lbs myself. But our lifestyles, more often than not, only add to the overall problem of our overweightness and obesity.

I call bs on the bolded part... How is "good" food more expensive? If your buyin chicken, it costs the same if you fry it or bake it... Vegetables are cheap! cost alot less than a bag of chips... sure fruit can get pricey but if you watch sales you can have all kinds of different fruit every week...

Sure not all can afford a gym but running outside only costs a pair of shoes... And if the weather is shitty you can walk in the mall for free...

I sit behind a desk... I get up and move around alot, take the long way to get somewhere, hell just stand up and MOVE... noone is chained to the seat...

This is a customer service issue...

a person is too big for a seat? Whether the person is too fat or too tall is not the issue, its the design of the damn chair. Who designed them? Did they account for tall people? Are we going to start charging tall men and women extra money too? Where does it end?

Even the thinner people can use more room, and the baby crying issue... if they know kids will board the plane, why not have a "Family" section and make it more child friendly like they do with mini-vans? Its a design problem....

I am an Ammerican, and its my damn right to eat what the hell I want to. Skinny or fat, we shouldn't allow anyone to try to regulate our bodies... yes, be healthy but what if you are naturally built like a horse? What if you are a curvy woman with junk in her trunk and rounded hips at 6'4" tall? That's a heavy women even if she isn't fat see? Gotta big bootay... take the train!

We as people are not only fatter, we are taller too. The next generations are not hobbit-sized but they make these seats for that old standard. If we let this happen what other right to our body will they take?

OK stroke my pussy during a security check also... I usually ask for a steak dinner first but go right ahead! :nutz:

Vendetta1 said:

I have zero issue with what tina said. She is not the one calling someone fat ass or fat bitch or big bitch. A word to the wise: there is someone who holds a prejudice against you for something. Think about that as you spew your vitriol towards another human being. And remind me not to catch a flight with some of you. The medicine I'm on right now for pain is causing swelling and weight gain. God forbid one of my fat folds touches someone.

I love you!

paintedlady said:

This is a customer service issue...

a person is too big for a seat? Whether the person is too fat or too tall is not the issue, its the design of the damn chair. Who designed them? Did they account for tall people? Are we going to start charging tall men and women extra money too? Where does it end?

Even the thinner people can use more room, and the baby crying issue... if they know kids will board the plane, why not have a "Family" section and make it more child friendly like they do with mini-vans? Its a design problem....

I am an Ammerican, and its my damn right to eat what the hell I want to. Skinny or fat, we shouldn't allow anyone to try to regulate our bodies... yes, be healthy but what if you are naturally built like a horse? What if you are a curvy woman with junk in her trunk and rounded hips at 6'4" tall? That's a heavy women even if she isn't fat see? Gotta big bootay... take the train!

We as people are not only fatter, we are taller too. The next generations are not hobbit-sized but they make these seats for that old standard. If we let this happen what other right to our body will they take?

OK stroke my pussy during a security check also... I usually ask for a steak dinner first but go right ahead! :nutz:

tinaz said:

vainandy said:

tinaz said:

I dont think anyone who has posted is an "obese hater"... What it comes down to is this is a self inflicted "handicap".. These people are getting all sorts of handouts... why, because they are to big to get around,... why, because they have no self control.. why, because they just gave up...

Im not a hater... ive been overweight, but I had the sense to know when enough was enough and got my butt in gear and changed my way of life... I didnt sit back and wait for myself to get so big that I had to rely on other people to take care of me... That is just crazy to me that people will sit back and accept that as a way of life and do nothing to change their life for the better... People start the hating because those of us who arent 400 lbs get tired of hearing the "poor me, take care of me cuz im to lazy to do it myself" act....

And before any of you start jumping all over my shit for my comments, just remember, I dont agree with yours either... We can agree to disagree, Until you've walked in my shoes and know what I know, dont assume you are a better person than I am because you feel differently than I do...

I still dont believe it is a handicap... Because it is preventable and treatable...

[Edited 5/19/11 21:07pm]

I've been as big as 280 pounds my damn self at one point and I got down to 175 pounds in less than a year. It was damn hard and it took damn determination but I did it. I was also in my early 30s at the time which makes a difference also because it's easier to lose it when you're younger than when you get older. But not everybody is as stubborn as my ass and anyone on the org can see what an extremely stubborn person I am by my posts. But not everyone is that stubborn and determined. I lost mine because I got extremely pissed when I saw the word "obese" on the sheet of paper that had the results of a physical that my doctor gave me. And being the revengeful bitch that I am, I said to myself...."Obese! I'll show this bitch obese!" and I damn near starved my ass just to spite her.

But I've gained a lot of it back over the years. I gained a lot of it back right after my mother died. A lot hell, I damn near gained it all back. I was back up to 275 pounds. I got back on a diet last September and got down to 230 pounds. It was damn hard and even harder than before because I'm in my 40s now, plus I don't have near the determination that I did back then. But then the holidays came around and I started back eating again. When I went to the doctor in February, I was 240 pounds so I had only gained 10 pounds since the holidays but I still haven't started back to dieting and I hate to see what I weigh now. Every day, I say...."I'm getting back on it again next week" and I don't do it. Plus, money is tighter now and it's cheaper to eat fattening than healthy. I'm finally going to get pissed enough though and get back on it though because I feel my clothes feeling tighter and my ass can't afford to buy any new ones. But I know I can get my ass back down to around 220 or 230 pounds. That's the weight that everyone said I looked my best at because I'm a tall whore of 6' 5" (oh, don't get me started on the discrimination of the tall because it's out there too ). But when I was at my smallest at 175 pounds, people were calling me a crackhead because I'm so tall.

Yes, I've been there and done that also but even at my smallest, I never judged those that couldn't get their's off because it's too damn hard and plus I know my ass is capable of gaining it back also.

I dont know why but this whole post made me wanna do this....

My husband is 6"2 and he needs to carry at least 210lbs as well without lookin to skinny

strmn said:

SUPRMAN said:

Over the past twenty years, in aggregate I bet only Southwest has been consistently profitbable.

Commercial aviation is not a profit center.

The five biggest U.S. airlines reported a combined loss of more than $1 billion for the first quarter, mostly due to surging jet fuel prices. But the total loss was only about $100 million more than a year ago even though jet fuel spending jumped by 28 percent.

http://seekingalpha.com/a...e-to-short

As shown in Figure 1, the total net profits of world airlines have shown tremendous volatility over the past 15 years. After the world airline industry posted 4 consecutive years of losses totaling over $22 billion from 1990 to 1993, as a result of the Gulf War and subsequent economic recession, it returned to record profitability in the late 1990s, with total net profits in excess of $25 billion being reported by world airlines from 1995 to 1999. Even more dramatic was the industry’s plunge into record operating losses and a financial crisis between 2000 and 2005, with cumulative net losses of $40 billion.

FIGURE 1: WORLD AIRLINE NET PROFITS 1989-2006

Deregulation and Liberalization Worldwide

Since the deregulation of US airlines in 1978, the pressure on governments to reduce their involvement in the economics of airline competition has spread to most of the rest of the world. The US experience with airline deregulation is perceived to be a success by other countries, as the overall benefits to the vast majority of air travelers have been clearly demonstrated. While US domestic air travel grew at rates significantly greater than prior to deregulation, average real fares declined since deregulation and today remain at less than half of 1978 levels [2]. Several successful new entrant and low-fare airlines had a great impact both on airline pricing practices and on the public’s expectations of low-priced air travel. And, despite worries at the time of deregulation that competitive cost pressures might lead to reduced maintenance standards, there is no statistical evidence that airline safety deteriorated.

At the same time, the US deregulation experience had some potentially more negative impacts. The pressure to cut costs, combined with increased profit volatility, mergers and bankruptcies of several airlines led to periodic job losses, reduced wages and airline labor unions with less power than they previously enjoyed. Furthermore, the benefits of deregulation were not enjoyed equally by all travelers. Residents of small US cities saw changes in the pattern of air service to their communities, as smaller regional airlines replaced previously subsidized jet services. And, despite a substantial decrease in the average real fare paid for air travel in US domestic markets, the disparity between the lowest and highest fares offered by airlines increased, aggravating business travelers forced to pay the higher fares. The development of large connecting hubs by virtually all US major airlines also raised concerns about the pricing power of dominant airlines at their hub cities.

[EDITED}

http://web.mit.edu/airlin...ustry.html

This doesn't contradict what I said in the way that you might think it does. "Operating losses" are not losses to the shareholders. Corporations have fiduciary responsibilities to their shareholders which safeguard shareholders from such losses. Deregulation is at the heart of capitalism's engine.

Corporations such as Boeing are making millions in the arms industry. On that note, I HIGHLY recommend the film "Why We Fight" which will dispel any fantasies people might be holding onto about why the US went to war with/invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, not to mention, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Cuba, and so on and so forth.

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[Edited 5/20/11 4:48am]

Wrong. Shareholders are not protected from a corporations losses. Corporations have no fiduciary duty to protect shareholders from losses. Shareholders lose money daily. It's called the stock market.

Boeing is not an airline. They are an airplane manufacturer.

The U.S. had the same reason to invade Vietnam as it did Iraq, Nicaragua (here'were going back to the 1800's) as it did Afghanistan?

That makes no sense, regardless of any conspiracy fantasy.

paintedlady said:

SUPRMAN said:

Of course they included all people. 400lb people are the exception, not the rule. Why not accomodate 1,000 lb people, as it is known that people can get that heavy?

Why shouldn't cars and public transportation also have to cater the the extreme?

And while we're at it, there are a lot more people over 6'4 who fly than 400 lb people, but I see you conveniently ignore their needs. . . . . .

[Edited 5/19/11 20:21pm]

I didn't state one time in my post that I was only speaking of fat people, that is an assumption YOU made.

I said designers of airplanes (because its a principal of meeting customer needs and I see it as more of a cutomer service issue) should include people of ALL sizes and special needs.... because after all they are in the business to serve the PUBLIC , although privately owned... any airline would be savvy to include and market themselves as putting people first over the bottom line.

People are not simply cargo, we are customers... that is what makes us different from cattle... we PURCHASE tickets, we make those fuckers rich... so those people should cater to our needs just like other businesses do and consider any and all possible customer needs.

THAT is what will make any airline successful.

Why does this whole situation remind me of the Freedom Riders of the south? There was a time when people thought that it was wrong to let blacks and whites ride the same bus... yup, this is no different. Predjudice is prejudice.

Who wants to sit next to a fat person?

They should try to market that and see how far that takes them.

That sounds fine in theory but an airline doesn't need to carry every potential customer to be profitable. They can choose not to accomodate heavier passengers and let the competition choose to deal with them.

As a business they are not required to service any and all members of the public.

Airlines, again, generally aren't successful.

You say they should, but who is going to pay the extra cost? What would the reaction be to an airline raising fares? If all airlines don't, then the higher priced, more accomodating airline loses business and goes under. That should encourage everyone else to follow suit, don't you think?

You used to be customers. You are now cattle that pay for the privilege. That's how you get lower prices. It's another way of giving people what they ask for.

tinaz said:

paintedlady said:

This is a customer service issue...

a person is too big for a seat? Whether the person is too fat or too tall is not the issue, its the design of the damn chair. Who designed them? Did they account for tall people? Are we going to start charging tall men and women extra money too? Where does it end?

Even the thinner people can use more room, and the baby crying issue... if they know kids will board the plane, why not have a "Family" section and make it more child friendly like they do with mini-vans? Its a design problem....

I am an Ammerican, and its my damn right to eat what the hell I want to. Skinny or fat, we shouldn't allow anyone to try to regulate our bodies... yes, be healthy but what if you are naturally built like a horse? What if you are a curvy woman with junk in her trunk and rounded hips at 6'4" tall? That's a heavy women even if she isn't fat see? Gotta big bootay... take the train!

We as people are not only fatter, we are taller too. The next generations are not hobbit-sized but they make these seats for that old standard. If we let this happen what other right to our body will they take?

OK stroke my pussy during a security check also... I usually ask for a steak dinner first but go right ahead! :nutz:

You know I don't lie!

While they'll make my fat ass pay for a second seat, they'll call your fine athletically built ass a "flight risk" and put you in for more fondling "security checks.

Um, no Ms., ... we need you to remove your blouse also :pants tent:

eww.

CarrieMpls said:

tinaz said:

I dont think anyone who has posted is an "obese hater"... What it comes down to is this is a self inflicted "handicap".. These people are getting all sorts of handouts... why, because they are to big to get around,... why, because they have no self control.. why, because they just gave up...

Im not a hater... ive been overweight, but I had the sense to know when enough was enough and got my butt in gear and changed my way of life... I didnt sit back and wait for myself to get so big that I had to rely on other people to take care of me... That is just crazy to me that people will sit back and accept that as a way of life and do nothing to change their life for the better... People start the hating because those of us who arent 400 lbs get tired of hearing the "poor me, take care of me cuz im to lazy to do it myself" act....

And before any of you start jumping all over my shit for my comments, just remember, I dont agree with yours either... We can agree to disagree, Until you've walked in my shoes and know what I know, dont assume you are a better person than I am because you feel differently than I do...

I still dont believe it is a handicap... Because it is preventable and treatable...

[Edited 5/19/11 21:07pm]

People are getting handouts for being fat? I'd like to sign up, then, cause I've been fat all my life and have not received one yet.

Also, not one person mentioned anyone being "better" than anyone, so if you've got a bit of guilt there, maybe it's best left examined on your own.

This isn't about being better, it's about having compassion.

As for the argument that no one HAS to fly, I'd like to see how you'd feel about that if your mother or sister or son was laying in a hospital bed across the ocean and you were told you don't have to fly to get there to see her/him.

That's not a valid argument that's an emotional appeal.

You may want to be there very badly, but HAVE to be? Or what? Someone who is dying, dies?

Sounds harsh but that is the reality.

Whether you get there or not, you can't change the situation.

As comforting and guilt assuaging as it may be to be at their bedside it's still a want, not a need, although I have no doubt it feels much more a need than a want.

SUPRMAN said:

strmn said:

This doesn't contradict what I said in the way that you might think it does. "Operating losses" are not losses to the shareholders. Corporations have fiduciary responsibilities to their shareholders which safeguard shareholders from such losses. Deregulation is at the heart of capitalism's engine.

Corporations such as Boeing are making millions in the arms industry. On that note, I HIGHLY recommend the film "Why We Fight" which will dispel any fantasies people might be holding onto about why the US went to war with/invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, not to mention, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Cuba, and so on and so forth.

[Edited 5/20/11 4:47am]

[Edited 5/20/11 4:48am]

Wrong. Shareholders are not protected from a corporations losses. Corporations have no fiduciary duty to protect shareholders from losses. Shareholders lose money daily. It's called the stock market.

Boeing is not an airline. They are an airplane manufacturer.

The U.S. had the same reason to invade Vietnam as it did Iraq, Nicaragua (here'were going back to the 1800's) as it did Afghanistan?

That makes no sense, regardless of any conspiracy fantasy.

Um, I didn't say that Boeing was an airline. You (incorrectly) inferred that. Presumably, airlines are dependent on the existence of airplane manufacturers. You are correct that the US invaded Iraq for the same reasons it has invaded many, many other countries over the last century: imperialism.

SUPRMAN said:

strmn said:

It's nothing at all like that. That is a disanalogy.

So taking up two seats isn't costing the airline a seat?

Two people in a marriage are still two separate entities, regardless of the metaphor of "oneness".

That's the disanalogy.

imago said:

I completely disagree with this. A 400 lb person who knows they'll spill over into somebody else's seat should not be accomodated on their own damned terms.

Airlines *do* need to increase seat size--they're simply terribly uncomfortable (they were uncomfortable when I weighed 160 lbs!). But, the argument that Americans are getting fatter doesn't fly for me. Nor is the idea that a person with a 45+ inch waist entitled to fly on a plane on their own defined terms.

This woman has just given even more reason to get back in to the gym and work my ass off.

lawd

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/05/18/nr.too.fat.to.fly.tiggeman.cnn?hpt=C2

http://www.cnn.com/video/....cnn?hpt=C2

This thread is a testament to why the US is one of the only rich, developed countries that doesn't have universal healthcare. A dearth of fellow-feeling and mutual concern.

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strmn said:

This thread is a testament to why the US is one of the only rich, developed countries that doesn't have universal healthcare. A dirth of fellow-feeling and mutual concern.

How so? Are you suggesting that somehow obesity rates are higher due to lack of universal health care? How so? Please provide data that shows a causal relationship.

Couldn't this have been avoided if she just purchased her ticket in business class or first class? Aren't the seats bigger in those sections? I very rarely fly because I don't travel long distance's much, but the times that I have, I usually try to avoid sitting in the center seat of a 3-row seating section. I'm a relatively thin/slim woman, but I felt like a friggin sardine when I had to sit between two men on a two-hour flight, and they were not what I would call fat. So yeah, the airlines do skimp on the seat size to sell more seats.

Shyra said:

Couldn't this have been avoided if she just purchased her ticket in business class or first class? Aren't the seats bigger in those sections? I very rarely fly because I don't travel long distance's much, but the times that I have, I usually try to avoid sitting in the center seat of a 3-row seating section. I'm a relatively thin/slim woman, but I felt like a friggin sardine when I had to sit between two men on a two-hour flight, and they were not what I would call fat. So yeah, the airlines do skimp on the seat size to sell more seats.

That's because men are "spreaders." They just haaaaaaaave to stake out their territory - claiming the armrests and whatnot.

Genesia said:

Shyra said:

Couldn't this have been avoided if she just purchased her ticket in business class or first class? Aren't the seats bigger in those sections? I very rarely fly because I don't travel long distance's much, but the times that I have, I usually try to avoid sitting in the center seat of a 3-row seating section. I'm a relatively thin/slim woman, but I felt like a friggin sardine when I had to sit between two men on a two-hour flight, and they were not what I would call fat. So yeah, the airlines do skimp on the seat size to sell more seats.

That's because men are "spreaders." They just haaaaaaaave to stake out their territory - claiming the armrests and whatnot.

Exactly! Both of them hogged the arm rests while reading their newspapers. Dirty old bastids!

Shyra said:

Genesia said:

That's because men are "spreaders." They just haaaaaaaave to stake out their territory - claiming the armrests and whatnot.

Exactly! Both of them hogged the arm rests while reading their newspapers. Dirty old bastids!

The person in the middle gets the armrests.

Shyra said:

Couldn't this have been avoided if she just purchased her ticket in business class or first class? Aren't the seats bigger in those sections? I very rarely fly because I don't travel long distance's much, but the times that I have, I usually try to avoid sitting in the center seat of a 3-row seating section. I'm a relatively thin/slim woman, but I felt like a friggin sardine when I had to sit between two men on a two-hour flight, and they were not what I would call fat. So yeah, the airlines do skimp on the seat size to sell more seats.

Oh, I'd love being that close inbetween two men. Sitting for a long period of time, naturally you are going to get restless and start twisting and turning. Your elbow has no other choice than to accidently graze across them dicks a time or two......."Oh, excuse ME, I am SO sorry".

vainandy said:

Shyra said:

Couldn't this have been avoided if she just purchased her ticket in business class or first class? Aren't the seats bigger in those sections? I very rarely fly because I don't travel long distance's much, but the times that I have, I usually try to avoid sitting in the center seat of a 3-row seating section. I'm a relatively thin/slim woman, but I felt like a friggin sardine when I had to sit between two men on a two-hour flight, and they were not what I would call fat. So yeah, the airlines do skimp on the seat size to sell more seats.

Oh, I'd love being that close inbetween two men. Sitting for a long period of time, naturally you are going to get restless and start twisting and turning. Your elbow has no other choice than to accidently graze across them dicks a time or two......."Oh, excuse ME, I am SO sorry".

BobGeorge909 said:

vainandy said:

Them damn greens ain't even eatable without some bacon grease. I've lost plenty of weight eating greens even with the bacon grease with some cornbread but no meat. Meat is my weakness....uh...shut up y'all! And when my ass gets off work at 5:00 after not eating all day, I just stop somewhere and pick something up because I'm so damn hungry I don't have the patience to wait for something to cook.

I tell ya how I could really lose weight quick. If they would start making ass shakin' music again. When I lost all my weight back in 2001, there was still a little house music going on and I was in those clubs shaking plenty of ass (along with starving my damn self) and the more weight came off, the more dicks I got. If I got a dick one night, I'd starve myself that much more the next week trying to get another dick the next weekend. By the time I was having two and three dicks at the same time, my tall 6' 5" ass had made it down to 175 before I knew it and a lot of those whores were whispering thinking I had AIDS because the weight was coming off so fast and they also knew I had the dicks flowing like water at the time. I stopped going out for a while after my mother died and there was a rumor that I had died. I showed up a year later 50 pounds bigger and the whores looked like they had seen a ghost.

OK...WOW!..this is gonna be a funny story. I wasn't familiar with you at ll and had been skimming your posts. I got to this one and felt that the candor in it was just too funny, I started to gut laugh and tell my roommate what I tought was goin on! This ho...(there's NOTHING wrong with being a ho, people have every right to go out and get their hump on with whomever and how ever they please) was loosin weight from dancin and fuckin and havin fun. We had a plast and gut busted around the apartment. It was damn fun.

Then I sat don to type wht I am typing now

I mis keyed and deleted what I had typed and in my search for possibling finding my missing post, Ifell accross your profile which I had clicked open in a background window to possible see what this weight problem entail.

That's that the REAL LAUGHING began. We had assumed it was a chick the whole time. I unno why now. It makes so much more since knowing what I know.

This has been the funniest 20 minutes of this month for me...and it's more than half ove...CONGRATS!!!!

I really want to apologize if you take offense to any of this but judging from your candor and profile page. We'll be cool!. .......wow....

edit: I think I assumed it was chick because it was a weight issue being discussed and in my feeble mind, I tend to associate weight issues with women...then there was all the dick, it reinforced that assumption. I feel like davy in that Mt. Dew commercial. "Tommy...we got hosed".

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I'm not offended at all because I'm not a whore. I am THE whore!

paintedlady said:

Let that fat-ass pay for two seats!

We shouldn't take on that expense!

Let that blind person keep that fucking dog at home!

I have allergies dammit!

Let that cripple crawl up the fucking stairs! Chair lifts and elevators?

Not MY problem!

We need peanuts on a plane, fuck that little brat and his peanut allergies!
I'm hungry dammit!

Shit... maybe we should ban those Middle-easterners from flying!

I'm tired of waiting in long lines and taking off my shoes!

We only care about issues if they affect us directly, and we all have our prejudices don't we? When we don't consider one type of person then where will it end?

Enable someone to get fatter? Really? Do you really hear yourselves? Wow.

Well said Paintedlady. Thank you. @)--}-----

I failed in my attempt to be a sarcastic-clown. Laughter has seen me thru a lot of encounters

with rude people.

On Ms. Tiggeman's blog, she mentions that there was a 6'5" 315 lb LSU football player on that flight.

I'd like to know if the steward approached him about the two seat policy.

paintedlady said:

This is a customer service issue...

a person is too big for a seat? Whether the person is too fat or too tall is not the issue, its the design of the damn chair. Who designed them? Did they account for tall people? Are we going to start charging tall men and women extra money too? Where does it end?

Even the thinner people can use more room, and the baby crying issue... if they know kids will board the plane, why not have a "Family" section and make it more child friendly like they do with mini-vans? Its a design problem....

I am an Ammerican, and its my damn right to eat what the hell I want to. Skinny or fat, we shouldn't allow anyone to try to regulate our bodies... yes, be healthy but what if you are naturally built like a horse? What if you are a curvy woman with junk in her trunk and rounded hips at 6'4" tall? That's a heavy women even if she isn't fat see? Gotta big bootay... take the train!

We as people are not only fatter, we are taller too. The next generations are not hobbit-sized but they make these seats for that old standard. If we let this happen what other right to our body will they take?

OK stroke my pussy during a security check also... I usually ask for a steak dinner first but go right ahead! :nutz:

I say add a couple of inches to the width of the seat and add 3 maybe 4 inches of inches between rows.

beyond that...Airlines can't accomidate EVERYone. Neither can rollercoaster or busses. or doors or cars.

if someone gets anxiety attacks when surrounded by otheres or is claustrophobic, airlines aren't obligated to accomidate them.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

strmn said:

This thread is a testament to why the US is one of the only rich, developed countries that doesn't have universal healthcare. A dirth of fellow-feeling and mutual concern.

How so? Are you suggesting that somehow obesity rates are higher due to lack of universal health care? How so? Please provide data that shows a causal relationship.

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No, read the second sentence in my post. Note: I misspelled "dearth' the first time around.

vainandy said:

Shyra said:

Couldn't this have been avoided if she just purchased her ticket in business class or first class? Aren't the seats bigger in those sections? I very rarely fly because I don't travel long distance's much, but the times that I have, I usually try to avoid sitting in the center seat of a 3-row seating section. I'm a relatively thin/slim woman, but I felt like a friggin sardine when I had to sit between two men on a two-hour flight, and they were not what I would call fat. So yeah, the airlines do skimp on the seat size to sell more seats.

Oh, I'd love being that close inbetween two men. Sitting for a long period of time, naturally you are going to get restless and start twisting and turning. Your elbow has no other choice than to accidently graze across them dicks a time or two......."Oh, excuse ME, I am SO sorry".

Dude...do you have ANY idea how totally fucking awesome you are???