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Printableian said: AnotherLover2 said: See, to me, Marilyn Monroe is thick, but Janet Jackson is NOT. I think Janet Jackson is thin--but she has big tits. So some people will refer to her as "curvy"--when the only "curves" she has on her are her tits and hip bones...the rest is sheer muscle. I'm not saying that's ugly, I'm just saying that doesn't seem "thick" to me... Hey now... Janet's size and shape varies 
In Diff'rent strokes, she was about average. In "Nasty" and "What Have U Done For Me Lately" she was just plain fat. In "When I Think of You" she was gargantuan. In "Pleasure Principle" and "Rhythm Nation" she was skinny. In "Janet" she was curvaceous and sexy, and from "Velvet Rope" to present day I'd say she's curvy not thin. She has some great curves! Not that I noticed, ahem. I bet that during the times you think she was "fat", she was probably within the height/weight proportionate scale, medically. It would be interesting to find that out, cause I think she only looks "fat" or "gargantuan" when you compare her to how she is now. Obviously, the physical trend for women from the 80s to now is to be much, much more muscular and buff. She got a personal trainer and got in shape, obviously. But, hell, if you call muscles "curves", then, yes, she's verrry curvy. Again, I say what you're calling curves on Janet are boobs (implants) and hip bones | |
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LaVisHh said: AnotherLover2 said: LaVisHh said: AnotherLover2 said: LaVisHh said: Ok, now this is bugging me, lol...will someone try to explain to me what "thick" means, with regards to a female body?
 Maybe it's all personal perspective--just like what is "attractive" to one person is not to another...maybe what is "thick" to one man or woman is "skinny" or "fat" to another...? After all, there are no doctors or scientific measurements to deem what "thick" is, are there? I agree with you, but in this case, the term "thick" is used widely amongst today's culture, and they are talking about a certain type of female body... Where the HELL is theC, rdhull, and BAD when I need them!  In other words, you need some black men's definitions of the word, not mine or ian's or AbucahX (although I think he's black). But don't you think that even between them, they might have some discrepancies about what is "thick"? They might agree on the generalities, and could point to or name some celebrities who fit the typical definition--but in real life, I bet they'd have some disagreements. I needed the input from other men who used the term thick on this thread.  Like i said earlier, for me it is basically a thickness below the waist. A girl can be considered thick and still have very small breasts or upper half as a whole. Janet is borderline thick, because of the thick legs she carries. | |
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LaVisHh said: Nevermind...this is getting nowhere.
[This message was edited Sun Feb 9 18:24:24 PST 2003 by LaVisHh] I was not at all trying to shut down the conversation, Lav, or be critical...this is what debate is about. C'mon! I know you can hang, even when it gets into disagreeing! | |
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SuperC said: Like i said earlier, for me it is basically a thickness below the waist. A girl can be considered thick and still have very small breasts or upper half as a whole. Janet is borderline thick, because of the thick legs she carries.
I like the way you put that--she "carries" her thick legs! | |
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AnotherLover2 said: I bet that during the times you think she was "fat", she was probably within the height/weight proportionate scale, medically. It would be interesting to find that out, cause I think she only looks "fat" or "gargantuan" when you compare her to how she is now. Obviously, the physical trend for women from the 80s to now is to be much, much more muscular and buff. She got a personal trainer and got in shape, obviously. But, hell, if you call muscles "curves", then, yes, she's verrry curvy.
Again, I say what you're calling curves on Janet are boobs (implants) and hip bones Not at all. Go dig up the Control video. In "When I Think of You" she was just plain fat. She looked thoroughly unhealthy. That was not the right weight for her by any stretch of the imagination. Nowadays she is very fit, but her thighs, arse etc still have nice curves to them. She's curvy to my eyes. | |
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ian said: AnotherLover2 said: I bet that during the times you think she was "fat", she was probably within the height/weight proportionate scale, medically. It would be interesting to find that out, cause I think she only looks "fat" or "gargantuan" when you compare her to how she is now. Obviously, the physical trend for women from the 80s to now is to be much, much more muscular and buff. She got a personal trainer and got in shape, obviously. But, hell, if you call muscles "curves", then, yes, she's verrry curvy.
Again, I say what you're calling curves on Janet are boobs (implants) and hip bones Not at all. Go dig up the Control video. In "When I Think of You" she was just plain fat. She looked thoroughly unhealthy. That was not the right weight for her by any stretch of the imagination. Nowadays she is very fit, but her thighs, arse etc still have nice curves to them. She's curvy to my eyes. Okay, can't argue with your eyes! You see what you see... | |
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ian said: (removed) Whaaat? Are you saying that my attempts to debate my points are just me needing to assert my ego? [This message was edited Sun Feb 9 18:40:29 PST 2003 by AnotherLover2] | |
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LaVisHh said: Ok, now this is bugging me, lol...will someone try to explain to me what "thick" means, with regards to a female body?
thick means that she's packing much back... we're not talking enormous, but you're not worried about breaking her in half... she got something you can sink your teeth into... curves like a rollercoaster... a little cushion for the pushin'... so, you don't bruise yourself when you're hitting from behind... 
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Whaaat?[/quote] Oh, no offence intended, but trying to get the last word in all the time and shutting down people constantly doesn't lend itself towards good conversation.[/quote] I'll take this to Orgnotes, but ian, I am hardly 'shutting' anyone down here.  Jeez. And thanks for the public spanking--guess I deserved that for not agreeing with you on Janet Jackson, huh?
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LaVisHh said: AnotherLover2 said: LaVisHh said: Ok, now this is bugging me, lol...will someone try to explain to me what "thick" means, with regards to a female body?
Maybe it's all personal perspective--just like what is "attractive" to one person is not to another...maybe what is "thick" to one man or woman is "skinny" or "fat" to another...? After all, there are no doctors or scientific measurements to deem what "thick" is, are there? I agree with you, but in this case, the term "thick" is used widely amongst today's culture, and they are talking about a certain type of female body... Where the HELL is theC, rdhull, and BAD when I need them! watching this boring ass all star NBA game yawnnn...in m opinion thick for a female is someone like the Kirsty Ally of now is...Oprah is thick.. "Climb in my fur." | |
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ian said: Hey now... Janet's size and shape varies
In Diff'rent strokes, she was about average. In "Nasty" and "What Have U Done For Me Lately" she was just plain fat. In "When I Think of You" she was gargantuan. In "Pleasure Principle" and "Rhythm Nation" she was skinny. In "Janet" she was curvaceous and sexy, and from "Velvet Rope" to present day I'd say she's curvy not thin. She has some great curves! Not that I noticed, ahem. Ian, Janet in Nasty and Pleasure Principle was thick...she was skinny in Love Will Never Do (Without You) and Thats The Way Love Goes and beyond. "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: ian said: Hey now... Janet's size and shape varies
In Diff'rent strokes, she was about average. In "Nasty" and "What Have U Done For Me Lately" she was just plain fat. In "When I Think of You" she was gargantuan. In "Pleasure Principle" and "Rhythm Nation" she was skinny. In "Janet" she was curvaceous and sexy, and from "Velvet Rope" to present day I'd say she's curvy not thin. She has some great curves! Not that I noticed, ahem. Ian, Janet in Nasty and Pleasure Principle was thick...she was skinny in Love Will Never Do (Without You) and Thats The Way Love Goes and beyond. Man, sorry but this "thick" phrase is a bullshit term because none of you are using it consistently So I won't use it, coz I don't really have a good feel for its meaning.
Anyway - Janet in "Nasty" was fat - and she lost the weight for the "Pleasure Principle" video. There's a huge difference between the two videos. I agree that she was skinny in the Rhythm Nation era (including "Love Will Never Do") but she gained a bit of healthy weight (and muscle, as AnotherLover2 rightly pointed out) from the "Janet" album onwards. | |
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My understanding of "thick" has always been a woman w/ a great, curvy, healthy body (i.e. not slim or skinny, ample ass & thighs). Sometimes the brothas call a woman "thick" to indicate the body is a 10 but the face is a 2  , making her fuckable but not dateable. If the face is nice, a woman could be described as "fine & thick," huge emphasis on AND, as if it's rare. Usage varies, but it's mostly a description of the body, IMO...  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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I like a bit of curve and butt.
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ian said: Man, sorry but this "thick" phrase is a bullshit term because none of you are using it consistently So I won't use it, coz I don't really have a good feel for its meaning.That is what I said earlier... it is fucking stupid! SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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Nicole Kidman is skinny...Robin Power is thick "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: ian said: Hey now... Janet's size and shape varies
In Diff'rent strokes, she was about average. In "Nasty" and "What Have U Done For Me Lately" she was just plain fat. In "When I Think of You" she was gargantuan. In "Pleasure Principle" and "Rhythm Nation" she was skinny. In "Janet" she was curvaceous and sexy, and from "Velvet Rope" to present day I'd say she's curvy not thin. She has some great curves! Not that I noticed, ahem. Ian, Janet in Nasty and Pleasure Principle was thick...she was skinny in Love Will Never Do (Without You) and Thats The Way Love Goes and beyond. But I thought as long as you have an ass as big as Janet's (i.e. you couldn't get rid of it if you starved yourself for a year) you were considered "thick"  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: My understanding of "thick" has always been a woman w/ a great, curvy, healthy body (i.e. not slim or skinny, ample ass & thighs). Sometimes the brothas call a woman "thick" to indicate the body is a 10
but the face is a 2 , making her fuckable but not dateable. If the face is nice, a woman could be described as "fine & thick," huge emphasis on AND, as if it's rare. Usage varies, but it's mostly a description of the body, IMO...generally, if i say a girl is think, the fine part is implied and assumed... a girl whose face is a 2 doesn't get thick... she might get "that girl got an alright, body and all, but damn that face has got to go"... but i save thick for fine women... Mr. Ellis Dee-licious, the Official NPGigolo
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CalhounSq said: But I thought as long as you have an ass as big as Janet's (i.e. you couldn't get rid of it if you starved yourself for a year) you were considered "thick" she's got a thick ass and thighs... yeah, she can be thick... thick can come in different varieties... sometimes, a girl is only thick in the ass... sometimes the thighs... sometimes, she got curves all over... it all depends... Mr. Ellis Dee-licious, the Official NPGigolo
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Wilma is skinny. Betty is thick | |
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gazoo said: Wilma is skinny. Betty is thick
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To me, if a girl is thick, she isn't obese, but she isn't ideal either.
I am thin, so I am attracted to girls who are at least as slim as i am. End. | |
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EllisDee said: CalhounSq said: My understanding of "thick" has always been a woman w/ a great, curvy, healthy body (i.e. not slim or skinny, ample ass & thighs). Sometimes the brothas call a woman "thick" to indicate the body is a 10
but the face is a 2 , making her fuckable but not dateable. If the face is nice, a woman could be described as "fine & thick," huge emphasis on AND, as if it's rare. Usage varies, but it's mostly a description of the body, IMO...generally, if i say a girl is think, the fine part is implied and assumed... a girl whose face is a 2 doesn't get thick... she might get "that girl got an alright, body and all, but damn that face has got to go"... but i save thick for fine women... OH Your standards are higher than the brothas I've talked too  They'd still call her thick as long as the body was cool... I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Thin of waist and thick of ... you get the idea. | |
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LaVisHh said: 
I'm a little bigger than N7. I would say I'm about the size of N7. | |
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CalhounSq said: OH Your standards are higher than the brothas I've talked too They'd still call her thick as long as the body was cool...i don't know... the face is what i have to see the majority of the time, so i'd like it to be pleasant... unless i'm gonna be talking to her ass, she needs a nice face for me to look at... Mr. Ellis Dee-licious, the Official NPGigolo
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CalhounSq said: EllisDee said: CalhounSq said: My understanding of "thick" has always been a woman w/ a great, curvy, healthy body (i.e. not slim or skinny, ample ass & thighs). Sometimes the brothas call a woman "thick" to indicate the body is a 10
but the face is a 2 , making her fuckable but not dateable. If the face is nice, a woman could be described as "fine & thick," huge emphasis on AND, as if it's rare. Usage varies, but it's mostly a description of the body, IMO...generally, if i say a girl is think, the fine part is implied and assumed... a girl whose face is a 2 doesn't get thick... she might get "that girl got an alright, body and all, but damn that face has got to go"... but i save thick for fine women... OH Your standards are higher than the brothas I've talked too They'd still call her thick as long as the body was cool...So is "thick" supposed to be a good thing, then? I think most girls would probably be offended by the term, as it suggests that they need to lose some weight... End. | |
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PeterJL121 said: CalhounSq said: EllisDee said: CalhounSq said: My understanding of "thick" has always been a woman w/ a great, curvy, healthy body (i.e. not slim or skinny, ample ass & thighs). Sometimes the brothas call a woman "thick" to indicate the body is a 10
but the face is a 2 , making her fuckable but not dateable. If the face is nice, a woman could be described as "fine & thick," huge emphasis on AND, as if it's rare. Usage varies, but it's mostly a description of the body, IMO...generally, if i say a girl is think, the fine part is implied and assumed... a girl whose face is a 2 doesn't get thick... she might get "that girl got an alright, body and all, but damn that face has got to go"... but i save thick for fine women... OH Your standards are higher than the brothas I've talked too They'd still call her thick as long as the body was cool...So is "thick" supposed to be a good thing, then? I think most girls would probably be offended by the term, as it suggests that they need to lose some weight... End. Are you European? | |
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