So,

am i to understand that there is a law against

carryin guns... since when???

Tremolina said:

SUPRMAN said:

He was driving when his car was hit with the rock.

Shooting him did protect other cars, did it not?

Or are you thinking that the kid would stop after breaking a rear windshield and realizng the error of his ways?

So if somebody else is getting his car wrecked in the street I can go and just SHOOT the car wrecker?

hell, let's all just walk out and see if we can go and shoot somebody!

No wonder so many people get shot and killed in the US.

Depends on where you are.

A man in Texas I believe was acquitted of shooting and killing one, paralyzing the other (or maybe killing him also) who were robbing his NEIGHBOR'S house.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Efan said:

Did anybody mention yet that the driver could have driven a safe distance away from the rock-thrower, called 911, and waited for the police to arrive?

I am not sure about AL but where I live I am under NO obligation to retreat.

The common law rule in the U.S. is that no has to retreat in their home.

Outside, it has to be defense as a reason for not retreating.

If one retreats and one is still under threat of serious harm or death, that's self-defense.

Efan said:

Tremolina said:

Yes

But that apparantly is of no concern. Apparantly, even when you, or your "property" isn't even at risk, you can STILL go out and start shooting kids that are wrecking other people's cars.

Yeah, even as a bishop.

No, really. That's not fucked up. Not at all.

It's stunning to me. Honestly.

Punish the kid, have him make reparations for the damage he caused, all that...but shoot to kill and ask questions later? America is such a hateful country.

"Shoot to kill?"

SUPRMAN said:

Efan said:

It's stunning to me. Honestly.

Punish the kid, have him make reparations for the damage he caused, all that...but shoot to kill and ask questions later? America is such a hateful country.

"Shoot to kill?"

Bullet wounds to the stomach are very often fatal. He hit the kid in the hip, which is lucky, more or less--a few inches over and the wound could have killed the kid.

SUPRMAN said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I am not sure about AL but where I live I am under NO obligation to retreat.

The common law rule in the U.S. is that no has to retreat in their home.

Outside, it has to be defense as a reason for not retreating.

If one retreats and one is still under threat of serious harm or death, that's self-defense.

I am not 100% what the bold part means. But I do know under the law where I live if you are legally allowed to be where you are there is NO obligation to retreat.

Efan said:

SUPRMAN said:

"Shoot to kill?"

Bullet wounds to the stomach are very often fatal. He hit the kid in the hip, which is lucky, more or less--a few inches over and the wound could have killed the kid.

That may be, but we don't know that he intended to kill the kid when he fired the gun.

We don't know that he was aiming for the stomach, head or any specific part of the teen.

SUPRMAN said:

Efan said:

Bullet wounds to the stomach are very often fatal. He hit the kid in the hip, which is lucky, more or less--a few inches over and the wound could have killed the kid.

That may be, but we don't know that he intended to kill the kid when he fired the gun.

We don't know that he was aiming for the stomach, head or any specific part of the teen.

I think any time you fire a gun at someone, you are intending them serious injury and you have to acknowledge the possibility that the gunshot has a good chance of killing them.

BklynBabe said:

Next time, jump out your car, take off your belt, and give that kid the Madea style ass whuppin' he truly deserves!!!! I'm not feeling sorry for the kid because he was doing wrong and could have seriously harmed or killed someone! If you are fucking around, you don't know who you may encounter, in fact the way people snap these days, the kid should have expected to get shot doing dumb shit like he was. The man being a bishop is immaterial! He didn't go randomly shooting kids, he got mad at someone for destroying his property and unfortunately had a gun beside him. I hope he gets community service with troubled teens but jail time?? Nope, can't cosign! The kid reaped what he sowed and maybe this was the Lord way of saying "c'mon son!"

Thank you! And according to the article, the kid who got shot had a gun on him.

I say give the bishop a fucking parade and keys to the city.

[Edited 5/11/11 8:27am]

OnlyNDaUsa said:

paintedlady said:

This story reminds me of the kids that stand on overpasses/bridges and drop rocks on passing cars for fun.

that can be deadly

Exactly, that's my point.

This Bishop probably thought about what COULD have happened and allowed those feelings to push him to shoot that kid.

I think the Bishop should go to jail and so should that kid. That kid is LUCKY it wasn't a woman in the car with babies, because if she lost control and the babies in the car were killed... none of us would empathize for the kid tossing bricks at the cars.

I wonder if this Bishop has a fed up attitude towards teenaged kids... seems like he jumped to an extreme measure to teach a harsh lesson to a punk assed kid. Its not his right to do that, but I am glad the kid was dealt with harshly.... so that this kid will not jeopardize any more lives on the road , or at least regret what he did that day and not do it again.

uPtoWnNY said:

BklynBabe said:

Next time, jump out your car, take off your belt, and give that kid the Madea style ass whuppin' he truly deserves!!!! I'm not feeling sorry for the kid because he was doing wrong and could have seriously harmed or killed someone! If you are fucking around, you don't know who you may encounter, in fact the way people snap these days, the kid should have expected to get shot doing dumb shit like he was. The man being a bishop is immaterial! He didn't go randomly shooting kids, he got mad at someone for destroying his property and unfortunately had a gun beside him. I hope he gets community service with troubled teens but jail time?? Nope, can't cosign! The kid reaped what he sowed and maybe this was the Lord way of saying "c'mon son!"

Thank you! And according to the article, the kid who got shot had a gun on him.

I say give the bishop a fucking parade and keys to the city.

[Edited 5/11/11 8:27am]

Why the hell does a kid need a damn gun?

This kid was a thug? Well.... live by the sword, die by the sword.

Efan said:

SUPRMAN said:

"Shoot to kill?"

Bullet wounds to the stomach are very often fatal. He hit the kid in the hip, which is lucky, more or less--a few inches over and the wound could have killed the kid.

i think he intended to shoot the kid in the ass, which btw

is called the hip in gentle terms. shootin someone in the ass is another way of embarassin the for life.

if one wanted to send a stronger message, they would shoot the knees. if one wants to send the ULTIMATE message, he would shoot for vitals.

i don't condone shootin anymore, however, i've seen the results of a rock through a window of a passin car on a freeway. a shot in the ass is a light sentence.

the kid should be made to go from school to school and show the bullethole in his ass, body, whutever, while showin the pics of the dead, who died while drivin home from a regular day, with their regular prollums, until

a stone hit their window from an overpass.

maybe a BISHOP should have chose a different thing to do

but the mans life had been put at risk by some kid (coulda been yours? prolly never got a spankin in their life? ) who just wanted to have some fun, watchin a wreck or two. HAHAHA!!! funny shit huh?

ok,

i've had loss though guns. cancer, car wrecks, alcohol, drugs, aids, you name it. but to loose someone behind

sniper tactics is truely truely a horrible thing...

p.s.

the kid had a gun on him, right?

he could of grew some nuts and

shot first. now that's comedy...

rock to a gunfight edit

[Edited 5/11/11 9:32am]

paintedlady said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Thank you! And according to the article, the kid who got shot had a gun on him.

I say give the bishop a fucking parade and keys to the city.

[Edited 5/11/11 8:27am]

Why the hell does a kid need a damn gun?

This kid was a thug? Well.... live by the sword, die by the sword.

Not nice! but my first thought was "dumb kid brought a rock to a gun fight!"

OnlyNDaUsa said:

paintedlady said:

Why the hell does a kid need a damn gun?

This kid was a thug? Well.... live by the sword, die by the sword.

Not nice! but my first thought was "dumb kid brought a rock to a gun fight!"

and heyyy I am only quoting Jesus. I guess the Bishop thought that way too...

Efan said:

SUPRMAN said:

That may be, but we don't know that he intended to kill the kid when he fired the gun.

We don't know that he was aiming for the stomach, head or any specific part of the teen.

I think any time you fire a gun at someone, you are intending them serious injury and you have to acknowledge the possibility that the gunshot has a good chance of killing them.

That depends on distance, what you are shooting with, and how good a shot you are.

It's not automatic that shooting is lethal.

uPtoWnNY said:

BklynBabe said:

Next time, jump out your car, take off your belt, and give that kid the Madea style ass whuppin' he truly deserves!!!! I'm not feeling sorry for the kid because he was doing wrong and could have seriously harmed or killed someone! If you are fucking around, you don't know who you may encounter, in fact the way people snap these days, the kid should have expected to get shot doing dumb shit like he was. The man being a bishop is immaterial! He didn't go randomly shooting kids, he got mad at someone for destroying his property and unfortunately had a gun beside him. I hope he gets community service with troubled teens but jail time?? Nope, can't cosign! The kid reaped what he sowed and maybe this was the Lord way of saying "c'mon son!"

Thank you! And according to the article, the kid who got shot had a gun on him.

I say give the bishop a fucking parade and keys to the city.

[Edited 5/11/11 8:27am]

That's not the kid's fault he had a gun.

He's a teenager. He didn't know any better.

Why are you picking on him instead of the adult?

the answer to the qwestion,

is another qwestion. WHUT IS BEEF???

wow,

blame the man, blame the kid

blame society for whut they did

blame religion, blame the government

blame me, cause

you don't see the whole world is bent.

blame prince in the past

blame the future prince

he qwit cussin, but the world still

don't make sense.

so let's blame somebody

blame them cause they beat the kid

most likely they didn't

blame them for too much

or not enough LOVE in his life

they didn't care or were

OVER REPENTANT

his fault for throwin a rock

his fault for ownin a glock

their fault for no understandin

our fault for the iraq landin

we made these days whut they are

and ain't none of y'all had the right answer

but me, so far

king bad

WTF is this. I'm glad the authorities have the monopoly on using violence in my country. "Protecting property" It's an interesting read though, didn't know there were people who could approve the acts of this bishop...

Man, lucky that kid didn't walk across his lawn

I think some of your attitudes would change if you lived in neighborhoods where you dealt with these hoodrats on a daily basis. And some of these "children" carry more firepower than the cops. I understand the man's frustration - eventually you get tired of the bullshit. Living in NYC, I see these punkasses all the time.

@ stupid teenager throwing rocks at passing cars

@ stupid "man of God" carrying around and USING a loaded weapon

Of course, there are various things to consider here, but overall I believe that they BOTH need punishment.

FIRST of all, the kid getting shot isn't the big issue. Anytime that you instigate an attack (especially unprovoked such as this) upon another person, then you are subject to retribution. Think about how big this f*cking rock had to be in order to break the windshield?! The moment this kid decided to start this "game" he made himself vulnerable. He could've hit a car carrying gang members...how do you think THEY would've dealt with it?

SECOND, if the driver is indeed a "man of God" then he definitely should've calmed the f*ck down and not shot back. (Unless there was a flurry of projectiles being thrown at him...then it's clearly self-defense.) Christianity is supposedly about "forgiveness" so at the very least he needs to surrender the mantle of "Bishop". If he's that trigger-happy then just acknowledge your secular nature...

(...or embrace Shariah law and become an Iman ).

PurpleJedi said:

@ stupid teenager throwing rocks at passing cars

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