My coworker and I speak spanish to each other all the time, it's usually about our own stuff

Imayte said:

not really rude, me and my sister speak italian all the time at work.

we just choose not 2 speak english sometimes and it keeps people guessin lol

Santo Cielo piagnucolones

RUDE RUDE RUDE!!!

Unless you work in Italy or in a place where EVERYONE speaks Italian, you should use English.

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Where I used to work, there were different co-workers speaking to each other in Cantonese, German, Arabic, etc. There were two French peeps on working visas who always spoke in French to each other and I could have sworn they were saying things about me The girl was deliciously obnoxious...so French, oh ho ho! Made me want to learn the language. 'ow you say...je veux te donner des lovings de long temps...avec du temps sexy à votre beau cul, no?

physco185 said:

they are excluding you and yes it's rude plus esp if you hear your name mentioned!!!!!!

To be completely clear, I don't see any issue with, say, _______-speaking co-workers having conversations in whatever language during lunch/breaks/working closely on something, when it's just them...but the second you're working with someone in the group who is out of the loop and you make the conscious choice to keep them out... it's fuckin rude.

johnart said:

physco185 said:

they are excluding you and yes it's rude plus esp if you hear your name mentioned!!!!!!

To be completely clear, I don't see any issue with, say, _______-speaking co-workers having conversations in whatever language during lunch/breaks/working closely on something, when it's just them...but the second you're working with someone in the group who is out of the loop and you make the conscious choice to keep them out... it's fuckin rude.

when i was at school these 2 italian girls used to catch the train with me... we would all b speaking in english then all of a sudden they start with the italian... and i often heard my name.... i would just laugh it off cause we were friends... but now when i think about it i should have told them to f'off!!!!!

uh zitto. la gente qui e cossi sensitive!

a smettere di piangere su di esso

everyone loves an italian girl

especially Prince

Imayte said:

uh zitto. la gente qui e cossi sensitive!

a smettere di piangere su di esso

everyone loves an italian girl

especially Prince

Delusional.

Spinlight said:

Imayte said:

uh zitto. la gente qui e cossi sensitive!

a smettere di piangere su di esso

everyone loves an italian girl

especially Prince

Delusional.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

translated.... perché sei ossessionato da me

physco185 said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^

translated.... perché sei ossessionato da me

And why are y'all even being bothered with this child? You should realize that you're not going to get an intelligent response!

Shyra said:

And why are y'all even being bothered with this child? You should realize that you're not going to get an intelligent response!

LMAO I just can't bother Google Translator with this.

Some people speak their native tongue to talk about a personal matter that they don't want everyone to know about. But I think trying to put regulations on people speaking their native tongue is a slippery slope, unless you can prove they're directly insulting you or another co-worker.

Fuck political correctness. Unless you work for a foreign-based corporation and you're either communicating with the home office and/or are being paid to translate, "native tongue" conversations should be reserved for your break.

Yes, it's rude.

Genesia said:

Fuck political correctness. Unless you work for a foreign-based corporation and you're either communicating with the home office and/or are being paid to translate, "native tongue" conversations should be reserved for your break.

But usually it's those like you that have an issue with foreigners altogether. Unless you can prove they're having a conversation that's detrimental to the workplace, then all you're doing is being paranoid, which is what fuels the likes of your kind anyway.

Swaggadocious said:

Genesia said:

Fuck political correctness. Unless you work for a foreign-based corporation and you're either communicating with the home office and/or are being paid to translate, "native tongue" conversations should be reserved for your break.

But usually it's those like you that have an issue with foreigners altogether. Unless you can prove they're having a conversation that's detrimental to the workplace, then all you're doing is being paranoid, which is what fuels the likes of your kind anyway.

"My kind"?

Genesia said:

Swaggadocious said:

But usually it's those like you that have an issue with foreigners altogether. Unless you can prove they're having a conversation that's detrimental to the workplace, then all you're doing is being paranoid, which is what fuels the likes of your kind anyway.

"My kind"?

it's the 21st century. adapt or die.

Swaggadocious said:

Genesia said:

Fuck political correctness. Unless you work for a foreign-based corporation and you're either communicating with the home office and/or are being paid to translate, "native tongue" conversations should be reserved for your break.

But usually it's those like you that have an issue with foreigners altogether. Unless you can prove they're having a conversation that's detrimental to the workplace, then all you're doing is being paranoid, which is what fuels the likes of your kind anyway.

And just how are you supposed to prove that the conversation is detrimental if you can't understand it? In the workplace, unless other languages are required while doing your job, EVERYONE should be speaking the same lingo while on the clock and around other co-workers/clients.

Serena said:

Swaggadocious said:

But usually it's those like you that have an issue with foreigners altogether. Unless you can prove they're having a conversation that's detrimental to the workplace, then all you're doing is being paranoid, which is what fuels the likes of your kind anyway.

And just how are you supposed to prove that the conversation is detrimental if you can't understand it? In the workplace, unless other languages are required while doing your job, EVERYONE should be speaking the same lingo while on the clock and around other co-workers/clients.

How can you prove it ISN'T if you can't understand it? That's my point. To immediately assume it's something negative is simply being paranoid until proven otherwise. This NEED for some people to know exactly what some people are talking about in their native tongue is petty. Prove it's negative talk before assuming it's negative talk simply because you can't understand it.

This is a hot topic at my job, human resources actually held a meeting because of this.

Some of my co-workers get offended when the European's at my job start speaking they're language , thinking that the convo is about them. In some cases that's exactly what's going on, some of the Euro's snitch on each other and tell us what's being said in they're native tounge and yes it's started a few fights unfortunately.

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Swaggadocious said:

Serena said:

And just how are you supposed to prove that the conversation is detrimental if you can't understand it? In the workplace, unless other languages are required while doing your job, EVERYONE should be speaking the same lingo while on the clock and around other co-workers/clients.

How can you prove it ISN'T if you can't understand it? That's my point. To immediately assume it's something negative is simply being paranoid until proven otherwise. This NEED for some people to know exactly what some people are talking about in their native tongue is petty. Prove it's negative talk before assuming it's negative talk simply because you can't understand it.

It doesn't matter if it's negative or not, it's a matter of commonality in communication. If you don't want others to know what you're talking about, do it on your own time.

johnart said:

physco185 said:

they are excluding you and yes it's rude plus esp if you hear your name mentioned!!!!!!

To be completely clear, I don't see any issue with, say, _______-speaking co-workers having conversations in whatever language during lunch/breaks/working closely on something, when it's just them...but the second you're working with someone in the group who is out of the loop and you make the conscious choice to keep them out... it's fuckin rude.

I don't care if two people speak another language for work related reasons if I don't have any reason to be listening to what they are saying anyway. A private conversation is private, whatever language it is in.

But that is different than suddenly switching to another language so you may speak "privately" in front of others. It's pretty obvious when the conversation is personal and when it is not.

Serena said:

Swaggadocious said:

How can you prove it ISN'T if you can't understand it? That's my point. To immediately assume it's something negative is simply being paranoid until proven otherwise. This NEED for some people to know exactly what some people are talking about in their native tongue is petty. Prove it's negative talk before assuming it's negative talk simply because you can't understand it.

It doesn't matter if it's negative or not, it's a matter of commonality in communication. If you don't want others to know what you're talking about, do it on your own time.

Ohhhhhhh...be careful. Somebody'll play the "you people" card on you!

Genesia said:

Serena said:

It doesn't matter if it's negative or not, it's a matter of commonality in communication. If you don't want others to know what you're talking about, do it on your own time.

Ohhhhhhh...be careful. Somebody'll play the "you people" card on you!

go for it!

My ex's family used to talk Spanish around me when they knew I couldn't understand most of it and it made me feel very uncomfortable. Not that I thought they were saying things about me, but it made me feel like an outsider. I'd just sit there staring off into space thinking wtf am I even doing here?! Sometimes it was just them not thinking about it and MIL would realize she was doing it and tell me what they were talking about. Of course, this is different than being in the workplace where misunderstandings can cause huge issues.

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Nope.

You must not live in California . . . .

johnart said:

Imayte said:

i call it as i see it. if someone was to have a problem with people talking in a language

that they choose to speak you kindly ask them to stop. no need to go on the internet and complain

As do I. And that's where the valley girl reference came from. Not that you would literally sound that way, but words like butthurt and lil' bitch (in the context of what the OP asked) and talking in the workplace to get folk wondering...juvenile IMO.

I didn't think the OP was complaining so much as asking a question.

Serena said:

Swaggadocious said:

How can you prove it ISN'T if you can't understand it? That's my point. To immediately assume it's something negative is simply being paranoid until proven otherwise. This NEED for some people to know exactly what some people are talking about in their native tongue is petty. Prove it's negative talk before assuming it's negative talk simply because you can't understand it.

It doesn't matter if it's negative or not, it's a matter of commonality in communication. If you don't want others to know what you're talking about, do it on your own time.

But if they're not communicating with you, why does it matter? Why do you have to know what they are discussing between themselves?

Shorty said:

johnart said:

As do I. And that's where the valley girl reference came from. Not that you would literally sound that way, but words like butthurt and lil' bitch (in the context of what the OP asked) and talking in the workplace to get folk wondering...juvenile IMO.

I didn't think the OP was complaining so much as asking a question.

she's 18....and it shows.

Exactly. See post #40.

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