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Well sir,
Being a chemistry student, I do know that sodium nitrate is used on processed meats to preserve that fresh "red" colour that meat has. Here's the thing...when sodium nitrate is mixed with a strong acid, it forms nitric acid. When incorporated into an amine (or a protein, which is made of amino acids), it forms something we chemists call a diazonium ion with a radial cation, which stays in equilibrium. The radical cation that's form is very carcinogenic. Sodium nitrate can also form nitrosamines, which are also carcingenic.
My professor says foods rich in antioxidants can combat these radicals...but it's not fool-proof. [Edited 4/30/11 11:38am] The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl
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...thanks for the enlightenment (even if I don't fully understand the chemical terms) it makes sense.
However...back to the thread...there's very little "red meat" at Red Lobster (mostly seafood)...so does other food get treated with sodium nitrate? By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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You're right about it not being any cheaper than any of the other seafood restaurants. Red Lobster down here is a joke and a thing of the past but from what I've noticed from trying to get black friends to go to an actual good restaurant with me, is that they feel uncomfortable and feel like they are being stared at in the other restaurants so they just stick to the outdated Red Lobster that was abandoned by most white people in my area years ago.
Black folks love some fried catfish and I have seen plenty of them go to a little catfish shack in the ghetto and buy a little three piece dinner (that doesn't even taste good) but will refuse to go with me to an actual catfish restaurant that is damn near the same price, the fish is actually good, and is also all you can eat. I've got one black friend that goes with me to eat at restaurants all over town and he's like me, if someone stares at him, his attitude is "fuck 'em" just like my attitude is. But the rest of my black friends, you can't drag them out to eat at a good restaurant even if you offer to buy their meal. They just feel uncomfortable.
And I noticed it was the same way with the malls for years. First there was the Jackson Mall and when Metrocenter was built, both malls went on for a few years before the Jackson Mall closed. But when they built Northpark on the richer white side of town in the mid 1980s, you would see very few blacks in that mall for years when it first opened and I used to have black friends that I would try to get them to go with me out there but they refused to go. They wanted to go to Metrocenter instead and Northpark had a lot better stuff than Metrocenter because stores had already started moving out of Metrocenter. I never saw a whole lot of black people in Northpark until Metrocenter had become a ghost town with nothing but stores owned by foreigners and they had no other choice but to go to Northpark. But for years, their number one excuse for not going with me was...."I feel uncomfortable with all those white folks staring at me". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I hear it's because black people like to ritually consume the cooked flesh of animals presented to them by servants. These servants are often strangers to the black people, kept in servitude for as much as 8 hours a day.
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Shit, I know kids who want to go to Red Lobster as their "fancy" after-prom dinner choice.
I just roll my eyes when I hear people talk about RL like it's some be-all-to-end-all, high-class fancy shit. I never understood where that notion came from, either! | |
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I was laughing at his dumbass, ignorant remarks. Seems most of his threads are full of comments like that. By the way, I despise lobster, can't stand the smell of it, and don't eat it. I also don't eat red meat or tons of greasy food. Secondly, greasy foods are not the only types of foods that can contribute to specific types of cancers, and it also depends on how the food is cooked as well. That kind of thinking, like the OP mentions about people associating specific foods with an entire group, is definitely a stereotypical way of thinking, for people who don't leave their comfort zones and have no idea about cultures besides their own. You can't always judge a book by its cover.
If Laydownmisty takes a trip down in many of the southern states, and visit many of the family restaurants, he will see many white people who eat collard greens, pigeon peas, macaroni and cheese, sweet potatoes, and everything associated with society's version of "soul" food, because many of them also frequent those type restaurants, which eliminates the "stereotype" that those type foods are only eaten by many Black people. Many of the white southerners I worked with in Florida, constantly talked about how they were going to make collard greens and pigeon peas, during the Thanksgiving holidays and they were damn proud boasting about it. Now for me, at that time, it was a culture shock hearing that come from them, because I grew up in the North, and to my knowledge at the time, many white people did not eat those types of foods..or so I thought. When I left my comfort zone and discovered, some of them do, it just goes to show you, that you should never get your cultural education based on stereotypes.
It all depends on the cultures, seeing how Black people come from various ethnic/cultural groups, it is obvious they don't all eat the same type foods, i.e., New Orleans Blacks, Southern Blacks, Northern Blacks, Midwestern Blacks, Caribbean Blacks, Africans, etc. none of them eat the very same foods. All depends on the individual, regardless of which ethnic/cultural group they are associated with. [Edited 4/30/11 17:46pm] | |
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I'll never understand how folks lump "all" Blacks as one of the same, liking the same foods, frequenting the same type restaurants, when as a whole, we all don't practice the same cultures, lifestyles, religious/non-religious beliefs. Now during my childhood, my neighbors were from the south Delaware/Virginia area, while my parents/grandparents/aunts/uncles, etc., were from the Caribbean, neither families ate the same foods, lived the same lifestyles, etc. So just because my neighbor may have frequented certain types of restaurants doesn't mean the Black family next door to them had to do the same...just because they were Black too. I have to tell you Timmy, you have to laugh at the ignorance on this site sometimes, it's so f***ing hilarious you can't even get angry at it. For example, if groups of white, hispanic, asian families live next door to one another, am I to assume that the whole population of those groups, eat the same foods and go to the same restaurants, just because I happen to pass by a specific restaurant, and see more of a particular group there all the time? Just sayin'. ::Just for that I'm going to knock on my White neighbor's door, and the other White family down the hall to ask them, if they both go to the same restaurant and eat the same exact foods.:: [Edited 4/30/11 13:31pm] | |
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I'm sorry, but are you unfamiliar with the concept of stereotypes? What does it have to do with THIS SITE? It's on any site. Stereotypes abound. | |
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It's pure comedy. | |
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I just roll my eyes and keep it movin'.
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I didn't realize they did.
I associate it with Lobsterittas and cheese biscuits. I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
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Yeah stereotypes abound everywhere but for the purpose of this conversation, C is talking about this site. Just duck your head in P & R. You'll see what we mean. | |
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Over the past couple of years, after awhile, seeing/hearing/reading certain comments, all you can do is laugh and keep it moving. | |
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That's a long standing stereotype about Red Lobster.
Let's not mention the Crackerjack Barrel stereotype!
there's an article from the Atlanta Post:
http://atlantapost.com/2011/04/05/understanding-red-lobsters-popularity-amongst-african-american-diners/
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I have never heard of nitrates being used to preserve seafood (which is what they serve at Red Lobster). It is used to cure meat.
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Don't be so bitchy. He asked why certain fast foods were carcinogenic, I answered. I never said it was in seafood. Re-read my answer and get your facts straight or move on. The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl
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All foods got that shit lol | |
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I just found this....
Food additiveAs a food additive, it serves a dual purpose in the food industry since it both alters the color of preserved fish and meats and also prevents growth of Clostridium botulinum, the bacterium which causes botulism. In the European Union it may be used only as a mixture with salt containing at most 0.6% sodium nitrite. It has the E number E250. Potassium nitrite (E249) is used in the same way. While this chemical will prevent the growth of bacteria, it can be toxic in high amounts for animals, including humans. Sodium nitrite's LD50 in rats is 180 mg/kg and its human LDLo is 71 mg/kg, meaning a 65 kg person would likely have to consume at least 4.615 g to result in toxicity.[8] To prevent toxicity, sodium nitrite (blended with salt) sold as a food additive is dyed bright pink to avoid mistaking it for plain salt or sugar.
Sodium nitrite though...just as bad..both have similar effects. When left in air, sodium nitrite oxidizes to sodium nitrate.
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Thank you script - you know as of late - I needed a good laugh.
This thread..
Look, in the greater Chicago Metropolitian Area, Black people are all up in "da Lobster". I dare you to go to any Red Loster in the greater Chicago area and not see black people . .. Black families, Black man and woman on a date ... Just try to get up into Red Lobster on a Sunday, after Black folks have left church.
A lil tongue in cheek.... but a lil' silver lining of truth.
So, in part this is an issue of demographics and what a significant percentage of a group tends to support and spend their cash. We have excellent seafood restaurants in Chi-Town. With the exception of business/lunch hours... around dinner time, 97% of the time my family is the only thang Black up in the restaurant.
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It's not black folks...it's anyone who doesnt usually go out to "expensive" restaurants.
They're the celebratory meeting place for lower middle class and under folks.
Normally they eat Long John silver's...when someone graduates or has a birthday, etc, they go to Red Lobster...or Sizzler...or Olive Garden. Places that are too expensive to visit on a regular basis.
I gave up on them years ago. A few of my former employees used to work there and let me know a lot of their seafood isnt nearly as fresh as they claim.
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You're right about the malls. I worked at a mall in my high school years which was one of the two busiest malls in the area. But after I moved away to college, the area where the mall was became littered with big box stores, and the mall declined as a result. The chain stores moved out, and while many of the storefronts stayed vacant, a few were replaced by a bunch of local ghetto-type stores with hio-hop clothes and knick knack shops. The mall itself closed for good about three years ago, but the two anchor stores there still remain as free-standing department stores.
But back to the whole Red Lobster thing. I love their cheese biscuits, but I haven't actually been to Red Lobster in about five years. Now in a lot of places across the country, particularly in the heartland, it's about the closest thing you'll get to a real seafood restaurant, but it's not necessary where there are actual seafood joints. I'm sure there are hole-in-the-wall seafood joints along the Gulf Coast that serve, fish, shrimp. and oysters that rival even the most awesome five-star seafood restaurants in New York City or Chicago and cost about as much as a Red Lobster dinner. One of my best seafood experiences came when I was a teenager, when I went sailing for a week in the Chesapeake Bay and stopped at an actual crab shack along the bay. They had the best crabs I ever ate.
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What's Sizzler like in the US? How's it viewed?
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Sizzler is no more. | |
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