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I don't know how some parents get away with spanking/hitting their teenage children. I mean, their big enough to hit back. That would be a concern of mine if I were a parent.
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for parents who spank: do you ever find yourself becoming angry enough at the child's bad behavior to put a little extra something in the spanking ??
no one here seems to fit this category, yet some parents become physically abusive to their children. beat them up and even in some cases try to kill them. which really really really really sucks that any child would ever have to endure that. god bless them
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OMG yes!...
this is when you walk away and calm down. If I can't talk to my children I just can't do any disciplining, time outs or anything... the kids get quiet and get like
Actually the spankings are quite comical... in my house they are.
My daughter break dances to get away from you... so I have to hold her hand and reach her but with the belt, just to miss completely and end up catching the belt myself.
Its funny... and what she says... and she's screaming all loud and hasn't even gotten the belt yet...
One time we both broke out in laughter because her butt pad fell out, she stuffed a beanie babies in her pants and when one fell out she farted...
I was like
"Why you farting out beanie babies Nia?"
we both started cracking up.... she was switching to tears and giggles
I finally said... "just stick your butt out so I can hit the bears in your butt already!"
we still laugh over that episode.
She's a savvy kid...
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Everybody winces when Aussies speak.
Don't hurt me!
Or talk to me. MY COUSIN WORKS IN A PHARMACY AND SHE SAID THEY ENEMA'D PRANCE INTO OBLIVION WITH FENTONILS!! | |
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How did I do what? I already explained that I am very open and honest and explain so much to my son...even at an early age. I explain consequences of actions as a prophylactic. I'm not a 'wait and deal with after the fact' kind of parent. I'm all about education and prevention.
As a result, I can honestly say that I have an extremely intelligent, VERY aware 5 year old. I do not have a kid that runs wild and crazy, or misbehaves to get attention. He has never been in an altercation with another child, he is just a sweet, smart and very curious little boy. He understands, even at this age, that life is about making choices and that sometimes we make the wrong choice and that there is always a consequence to every action.
Does he still make the wrong choice sometimes? Sure, but that's what growing up is all about.
So, ok to be more specific about how I discipline...I don't spank and I don't do time-outs either. You get a warning with me to correct the behaviour with an explanation of what will happen if it happens again. If it does, (usually) an activity is taken away. That's closer to what happens when you're an adult. As an adult, when you fuck up you don't get a smack, you lose an opportunity or someone you care about, or your freedom...or whatever.
I look at spanking this way...if it's wrong to discipline an adult with a physical response, it's wrong with a child. They deserve that same human right.
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I see! Cheers for responding. MY COUSIN WORKS IN A PHARMACY AND SHE SAID THEY ENEMA'D PRANCE INTO OBLIVION WITH FENTONILS!! | |
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I kinda lost interest in this thread so didn't read the other replies until now. | |
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Non-spankers were winning, but then spankers had a resurgence, and then we all hugged and agreed there's more than one way to skin a child. MY COUSIN WORKS IN A PHARMACY AND SHE SAID THEY ENEMA'D PRANCE INTO OBLIVION WITH FENTONILS!! | |
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Except JustErin is living proof that some adults need to be physically disciplined. MY COUSIN WORKS IN A PHARMACY AND SHE SAID THEY ENEMA'D PRANCE INTO OBLIVION WITH FENTONILS!! | |
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I like it though. | |
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I'm gonna get slaughtered for this, but I'll risk it.
I don't have a problem with spankings.
Me and my siblings were spanked and we came out fine.
And most of the people I've seen who weren't spanked...probably should have been.
I think if it's done the right way and for the right reasons and the parents balance it out with letting the kids know they love them, that it can actually be a good thing. "I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day | |
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That's pretty interesting.
Most of the people I know that have a problem with violence were spanked as a form of punishment.
Hey, I was, when I was really young that is. But my mom convinced my dad that it was not necessary so he stopped. So I have a personal experience with several types of discipline and even though I was spanked a few times in my life, I don't have a violent bone in me. | |
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people are too bloody soft these days. everyone's a fruit & nut case | |
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...All the adults I've seen IRL who weren't spanked, are kinda all over the place and feel they can just do anything to anyone and that it's okay. All the kids I've seen, are out of control. I'm only speaking about those I've actually encountered.
There's a difference between getting spankings, and outright abuse though - and I do agree that kids who constantly have the shit beat out of them, can sometimes grow up to be violent - or at the very least, have a hair-trigger temper as adults.
Which is why I have this running theory about those two girls that beat that woman in McDonald's not long ago : that either they never got spankings as kids, or that they got too MANY.
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Just guessing, but I'd suppose someone who was spanked a lot, as in physically abused, could either carry on that violence with their own kids or be dead set against it and determined to do things differently. Someone who experienced spanking like many on this thread have referred to, where they didn't feel abused, seem to have a tendency to parent the same way. MY COUSIN WORKS IN A PHARMACY AND SHE SAID THEY ENEMA'D PRANCE INTO OBLIVION WITH FENTONILS!! | |
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As someone who was abused by my father and simply "spanked" or "whipped" by my mother and grandmother, I know the difference.
I don't believe in abuse but I do believe in spanking or whipping with a belt or switch or even a slap with your hand. That little "don't do that" or "that's naughty" talk will just get you laughed at by your child and they will run slap ass over you and laugh at you when they do it. That little "time out" shit is a bunch of bullshit too. My great aunt didn't believe in spanking either and her grandson spit in her damn face and laughed at her when he did it. My grandmother (her sister) jumped up and told her "If you don't beat his little ass, I'm gonna beat your ass" and she was right.
Both my mother and grandmother didn't take no shit off me and when I got my little ass beat, I deserved it. Now, my father on the other hand, was a completely different story and he was an abuser both physically and mentally. It was a control type thing with him....."I'm gonna keep his little queer, nigger loving ass in line"....and he would even provoke me into defying him because we had completely different ideas about everything. In other words, I had a mind of my own and he thought he was going to beat me into having his mind and way of thinking. My mother and grandmother though simply just whipped me with a belt for doing something they have told me not to do which was usually something for my own safety. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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When my cousin spit in my aunt's face and my grandmother told her "If you don't beat his ass, I'm gonna beat your ass"....my aunt got up and just simply "tapped" my cousin's arm. My grandmother went over to her and said...."You stupid bitch, that ain't how you slap somebody. This is how you slap somebody!"....And she slapped the hell out of her arm. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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lets have a discussion about dry ass sex...not ass sex, but dry sex...thats more important than how to keep johny from eating raw hot dogs out the refrigerator...or peeing on the dog, or scratchin the older brother, or breaking the prize vase, cd, table leg.....
i love lil people. *le sigh THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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Lammastide said:
That's the way I look at it too. And that is also the reason why it is illegal in more and more countries. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Both of you make excellent points. Just as I don't smoke because I watched my grandfather die of lung cancer, I do not spank or beat my kids. My mother did not know the difference and as someone who got beat for no reason, it made me angry and bitter. I also don't have a violent bone in me. I am against corporal punishment, war, etc. | |
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I agree wholeheartedly with paintedlady. She has managed to raise some wonderful, well-behaved children with spankings and good humor. Some kids don't respond to "time out" or will turn it into fun time by entertaining themselves by dancing, singing, pickin boogers, whatever. Some kids respond to threats of spankings or the acutual spanking itself.
How many of you remember the boy who hawled off and smacked his mother's face on Dr. Phil? Will somebody please go to YouTube and download that video here? Just type in "Boy slaps mom." I don't know how to do it, but this is a prime example of a mother letting things get too far out of hand. And how many of you have a kid like that who talks to you any old way and tells YOU what they are going to do and what they are NOT going to do? But mainly, what would you have done if your child hawled off and smacked shit out you? Black folk KNOW what most of their parents would have done. Well, no because most black children would not have even attempted some shit like that. Maybe now kids would try that mess, but back in the day? Sheeeiittt!
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I used to see black women slap the hell out of their children in public and it was funny as hell. My mother was the same way though. If we showed our ass in public, she would slap the hell out of you right there. The embarassment was part of the punishment. That embarassment works better than any "taking away priveleges" because kids will find a way to entertain themselves if they get bored enough.
I will never forget what my mother did one time to one of my sisters. She was at work and got a call from the high school principal...."The girls are skipping class again". The first thing that came out of my mama's mouth on the phone was...."Again?! Shit!". He said...."I'm gonna have to suspend them for three days"....and she said...."Don't suspend them bitches and send them home, that's what they want"....He said...."Well, paddling them doesn't seem to be working"....Then she said...."Are you wearing a belt"....He said..."Yes"....She said..."I want you to take it off and BEAT...THEIR....ASS!". He laughed and said...."I can't do that". She said...."Hold on, I'm coming up there".
When she got up there, the bell had rung and the students were in the halls going to their next class. She saw one of my sisters standing at her locker and she walked up to her and slammed her ass up against the locker and said...."Bitch, I'm tired of your ass skipping class! Come on bitch, I'm walking you to your next class. Where is it?" She did this in front of a hallway full of kids. When she got to her class, the students were already seated and she told the teacher...."I'm her mother and I just came up here to walk her to class since she seems to always get lost these days and can't seem to find it". My sister started to say something and my mother shoved her and said..."Get your ass in that desk and shut your damn mouth!". Those kids snickered until they couldn't hold it any more and finally one or two of them just fell out laughing. My mama did not play! . . .
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This is a very interesting discussion. I understand both sides. My father never spanked me. My mother beat the HECK out of me and my two sisters for no reason at times. We would get beatings for drinking apple juice after school, not having her house shoes by the front door when she got home, not having dinner ready, going in the peanut butter and jelly or cooking food that she said was just for her (tuna fish, steak). I was 6 or 7 and remember being afraid to be myself. I was always trying to think what it is she wants from me. As I grew older I realize that my mother beat the three girls because she was pissed at my father for leaving her and remarrying (we look like him). My older sister and I SWORE we would NEVER hit our children.
Well, my older sister and her husband (not their biological father) are out of control with the way she disciplines her children. She has four girls (17, 16, 15, 13) - the 13 year old stay with her father in another state. But my sister still beats them with belts (make them lie down on their stomachs on the bed and pull their pants down just like mom did us) and she slams them into walls (mom didn't do that).
She used to get frustrated with me because I NEVER hit my child before they turned two. I thought it was too young. And when I did begin to tap their bottoms I would not do it first thing in the morning. That really pissed my sister off when we were living together.
I used time out frequently (and still do). Just recently I put my 17 year old son in timeout for 17 minutes and he couldn't do anything but go sit down and laugh.
I use the word beat and spanking because I do believe there is a difference between the two. When I think of beating it implies injury (emotionally, physically). I would never want to cause any damage to another individual. "You need to laydown and let me show you how we do this thing up in funky town. From the heart of Minnesota here come the purple Yoda guaranteed to bring the dirty new sound! Come on, now!" | |
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As most black mothers back in the day. That's why you didn't have a lot of shit with kids acting out in school, cussing out the teacher, assaulting the teacher, cutting school, etc. Hell, most of the time if you acted the ass, by the time you got home your mama already knew what you had done because Ms. Annie saw your ass and called your mama on the phone to let her know what was up. Hell, you might have even gotten an ass-whipping from Ms. Annie her damn self! And another one from you mama when you walked you ass into the house.
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My mother used to stand in the doorway holding the belt and say..."Get your ass in this house". I would say..."No, you're going to hit me"....She would say...."No, I'm not. Now get your ass in this house". I would say it again....."But you're going to hit me"....She would say...."No I'm not but if I have to come after you, I'm going to beat the hell out of you. Now get your ass in this house".
When I would finally walk past her to get in the house, she would pop the hell out of me with that belt. The first thing I would holler is...."You said you weren't going to hit me".....Then she would say...."Well, dammitt, I lied! Your little ass lies all the time don't you? Well, you're not the only damn person that knows how to lie!". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
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