Lammastide said:

paintedlady said:

Hell NO!!!

but I did eat lotion because of her...

Cetaphil lotion tastes like semi-sweet cherries... it is pretty good.

The talcum powder was NASTY... so was the corn starch.

It was cute with the lotion, if I lotioned her face she would let her tongue hang out and do her best to lick my hand.

If I lotioned her, I would have to hold her head gently so she wouldn't lick her arms or feet.

My childhood favorites were Comet Cleanser and little shots of unleaded gasoline (that my dad kept in bottles in our garage until my mom kicked his !#@$ for doing so ). Clearly, I have a very sophisticated palate.

Why... must kids scare us to death like that???

What did the comet taste like? Pepto? Chalky? Or did it have a zesty twang?

@ the idead of drinking toilet water or eating lotion. Ick!

I've seen toddlers drink the toilet water. Honestly, I think they just do it because they can't reach the faucet - not because toilet water taste any better than faucet or bottled water.

onward.

HotGritz said:

@ the idead of drinking toilet water or eating lotion. Ick!

I've seen toddlers drink the toilet water. Honestly, I think they just do it because they can't reach the faucet - not because toilet water taste any better than faucet or bottled water.

onward.

Nia wouldn't drink water from a cup/bottle... she liked to splash and the cool of the bowl....that was my guess anyways.

paintedlady said:

Lammastide said:

My childhood favorites were Comet Cleanser and little shots of unleaded gasoline (that my dad kept in bottles in our garage until my mom kicked his !#@$ for doing so ). Clearly, I have a very sophisticated palate.

Why... must kids scare us to death like that???

What did the comet taste like? Pepto? Chalky? Or did it have a zesty twang?

I remember it having a bit of a kick, like a seasoned salt or something. I bet it'd go well on poultry or fish.

JoeTyler said:

that was definitely a weird & long situation and I'm glad it's over...

hell I know that kids can be difficult (I'm not a father but I'm an uncle since I was 18), but I've seen so many parents spanking their kids because of trivial, little "mistakes" that I'm certainly bitter about yelling at/spaking a kid

I have family just like you described... and their kids do NOT listen to them at all.

They just get worse and worse until mom or dad drags them off somewhere.

I don't understand excessive yelling... the quieter you are, the more kids get quiet to listen to you.

My 10 & 8 yr olds do not like the company of noisy kids, and my home is relatively quiet... per request of my kids, I am not allowed to invite the family of said bad parents over.

paintedlady said:

I have dis-spelled all myths concerning spankings...

I BELIEVE in corporal punishment as ONE form of discipline.... it may not work for all kids, so it shouldn't be used for all kids.

I use all forms of discipline but I NEVER bargain with my kids... nope.

Too many parents make deals with thier kids in lew of spankings and they end up with brats that think they are entitled to doing what ever they want to do.

I have 3 kids.... all are well behaved because I lack patience. I am a single parent and I wear the pants in my family. So I am the disciplinarian, the nurturer, the one they cry to, the one they get mad at, the ONLY parent they learn to deal with. I think I actually have an advantage in the realm of discipline since little gets by me.

Now, just because I spank doesn't mean that all parents should. Not ever parent CAN spank, because not all parents are as smooth as me with it. Some parents do that when they are pissed and beat the shit outta their kids.

You can only spank when you are NOT mad. _walk away, give yourself time to calm down.

You can not bruise their bodies.

You MUST make them get the belt... don't ever use your hand to strike a child.

You MUST talk to your child during and after.

They must know why they are being spanked.

You must spank when all other forms fail.

Always hug your child and resolve any differences.

NEVER call your child any names... ever.

You do not have to agree with me, but I know how to spank... not beat my kids. As kids age, they grow older, spankings are not needed.

I usually only ever spank a child when they do something that will endanger their safety. As they get older and learn to speak and communicate, spankings are usually never handed out.

But a tween/teen will test you once..... they will rise up and try to tell you what's what...

that's when the LAST spanking is handed... with my twenty year old... this happened when he was 15. Yup.. I hit him once in the chest. He never raised up on me after that.

He does what he's told, and I couldn't be prouder of the fine young man he is today. Is is a better person than I could have ever hoped for.

I have witness major verbal-emotional abuse with parents that do not spank and do. It breaks my heart when I see it.

Its more about how you love a child that molds them into the people they become. If you don't spank but are distant, this is worse IMO.

and I never lock a child in a room... that shit is abuse.

[Edited 4/27/11 18:29pm]

Work it out, Ma. It might not be for everyone, but I agree that it works for some families.

Lammastide said:

Fauxie said:

I won't take it that way, don't worry. I don't think there's a definitive right or wrong way. I guess the pudding proof is in the adults those kids become.

Maybe that would work and maybe he would understand just as well. That and add a firm smack and I think there's no room for doubt. I'm not just being flippant though. I just see it as sometimes being, depending on the kid and the situation, a tool that when used judiciously can be effective. Not the be all end all, just an option. Much of this dialogue assumes not smacking is the ultimate goal. A well-behaved child should be one of the goals, so anybody routinely smacking a child year on year as they grow up must surely reevaluate what they're doing in that case, but I'm not talking about trying to do everything possible to never smack a child. Given that no child is perfect and all children will misbehave at some point, employing discipline is inevitable, and I see smacking as having a place in that sometimes.

Have I made it sound like something someone might proactively support like free speech or gay rights? I don't enjoy smacking a child, and it's not something I've done that many times, but I don't feel guilty about it, put it that way. It's a choice. I don't see it as detrimental or a method used in lieu of being able to do something else.

I dunno, ask Dan or Carrie if Nong New's a sweet, well-behaved, patient, generous, affectionate, happy little boy, or otherwise. And Nong Golf's the better-behaved one. Just trying to help raise some sweet kids, and they're both awesome. I just do what I think is best at any given time.

I respect this.

If you don't mind, I'd like to ask about something given your particular family arrangement. (And I hope I don't open a can of worms, given some of the recent energy here): You are a white Brit. (Surprise! ) Your family in Thailand are not. Were there ever any odd cultural apprehensions with you administering corporal discipline to your nephew? Apparently if there were, you all have functioned well enough to get over them, but I only imagine similar circumstances in some parts of the world (like the U.S. ) would further complicate this issue.

Interesting question! It's the opposite to what you're thinking. My wife's 32 this year and she was given the cane in highschool. I think it's only been officially outlawed relatively recently, within the last 10 years or so. My wife's father's generation, from what I gather, used the same kind of discipline for their children as the norm. My wife has told me she and her siblings as kids were smacked quite often with belts, shoes, canes and whatever was to hand by their father. I once had to grab up Nong Golf in my arms and take him away when his grandfather was taking a cement trowel to the back of his legs. My wife's father does love his grandsons, and they do love and respect him, and while they fear him to some extent they are actually quite close to him. It's just the only way he's ever known.

I would of course say my means of disciplining the kids is very different (some here may suggest otherwise). The old man has mellowed a little with age, it seems, but still here is a guy that when my wife went out partying and didn't come back 'til the next day told me to give her a good slapping (a truly bizarre, surreal, saddening situation for a son in law to find himself in). If any bending to others ppls' will happened it was my father-in-law to mine. I've never been presumptuous or acted superior or entitled or anything like that in this household, but over time in many ways I've become the unofficial head of the household, or 'man of the house', sharing responsibilities with Mon's mother. Our nextdoor neighbour, an older lady I go yo chat to sometimes when she feeds her cats, told me I was already doing this and that it was very much needed, not in a negative way, but encouraging me to keep doing my best to look after everyone. I love my father-in-law, and he does have qualities but he's not what you might call a 'good man', especially in the past. Still, I've never tried consciously to usurp him and though I've disagreed with him and told him how I've felt about certain things I've always been cautious not to embarrass him, really disrespect him or cause him to lose face (a huge thing in Thai culture). I'd just like to think actions speak for themselves and it's obvious how much I love all of my Thai family. I'm quite steady and reliable where this family's concerned. I think that must gain a certain respect and trust, I suppose, given there has been a fair bit of drama down the years. For a bunch of reasons my brother in law doesn't have a great relationship with his sons so in that sense I've become like a father figure to them too, and there's never been any conflict there as far as me disciplining his children as we have a good understanding. He knows what my wife and I put into it, the sacrifices we make, and how much we love his boys, so I think he respects our choices.

Sorry for the epic, and possible TMI.

Fauxie said:

Lammastide said:

I respect this.

If you don't mind, I'd like to ask about something given your particular family arrangement. (And I hope I don't open a can of worms, given some of the recent energy here): You are a white Brit. (Surprise! ) Your family in Thailand are not. Were there ever any odd cultural apprehensions with you administering corporal discipline to your nephew? Apparently if there were, you all have functioned well enough to get over them, but I only imagine similar circumstances in some parts of the world (like the U.S. ) would further complicate this issue.

Interesting question! It's the opposite to what you're thinking. My wife's 32 this year and she was given the cane in highschool. I think it's only been officially outlawed relatively recently, within the last 10 years or so. My wife's father's generation, from what I gather, used the same kind of discipline for their children as the norm. My wife has told me she and her siblings as kids were smacked quite often with belts, shoes, canes and whatever was to hand by their father. I once had to grab up Nong Golf in my arms and take him away when his grandfather was taking a cement trowel to the back of his legs. My wife's father does love his grandsons, and they do love and respect him, and while they fear him to some extent they are actually quite close to him. It's just the only way he's ever known.

I would of course say my means of disciplining the kids is very different (some here may suggest otherwise). The old man has mellowed a little with age, it seems, but still here is a guy that when my wife went out partying and didn't come back 'til the next day told me to give her a good slapping (a truly bizarre, surreal, saddening situation for a son in law to find himself in). If any bending to others ppls' will happened it was my father-in-law to mine. I've never been presumptuous or acted superior or entitled or anything like that in this household, but over time in many ways I've become the unofficial head of the household, or 'man of the house', sharing responsibilities with Mon's mother. Our nextdoor neighbour, an older lady I go yo chat to sometimes when she feeds her cats, told me I was already doing this and that it was very much needed, not in a negative way, but encouraging me to keep doing my best to look after everyone. I love my father-in-law, and he does have qualities but he's not what you might call a 'good man', especially in the past. Still, I've never tried consciously to usurp him and though I've disagreed with him and told him how I've felt about certain things I've always been cautious not to embarrass him, really disrespect him or cause him to lose face (a huge thing in Thai culture). I'd just like to think actions speak for themselves and it's obvious how much I love all of my Thai family. I'm quite steady and reliable where this family's concerned. I think that must gain a certain respect and trust, I suppose, given there has been a fair bit of drama down the years. For a bunch of reasons my brother in law doesn't have a great relationship with his sons so in that sense I've become like a father figure to them too, and there's never been any conflict there as far as me disciplining his children as we have a good understanding. He knows what my wife and I put into it, the sacrifices we make, and how much we love his boys, so I think he respects our choices.

Sorry for the epic, and possible TMI.

Not at all TMI. Some very interesting dymanics going on there. Thanks for sharing.

And that's all nothing relatively speaking. I could (but I won't) tell you things about this dysfunctional but ultimately loving team of a family that you simply would not be able to get your head around. Sometimes I've no idea how I came into this situation at 21 years old and was able to deal with it all.

I'm going to bed.

p.s. I wonder what Dex's view on this subject is. :WHAP:

Lammastide said:

paintedlady said:

Why... must kids scare us to death like that???

What did the comet taste like? Pepto? Chalky? Or did it have a zesty twang?

I remember it having a bit of a kick, like a seasoned salt or something. I bet it'd go well on poultry or fish.

TY for not making me feel like a total weirdo...

people in my family talk about me and my kids like we are from a carnival show.

"That's the lotion eater right there...they got issues..."

Gotta love family...

paintedlady said:

Lammastide said:

I remember it having a bit of a kick, like a seasoned salt or something. I bet it'd go well on poultry or fish.

TY for not making me feel like a total weirdo...

people in my family talk about me and my kids like we are from a carnival show.

"That's the lotion eater right there...they got issues..."

Gotta love family...

Ha! If you know my story, you MUST know some of the comments we get from my extended family and friends. I'm sooo not in the business of making anyone else feel oddball.

johnart said:

I was spanked when my mother thought it necessary, which was not all frequently.

I did not grow up feeling I was abused or all wah-wah about it.

I did not grow up fearing my mother as a person. I feared the consequence of disrespectful actions. I love respect my mother immensely to this day.

I feel the same way about my father, grandmother, and aunts. At some point in my life, I got a spanking or two from all of them, and rightly so. I was a little cut up with way too much sass. Grandma was Southern-raised, so yes I got belts, rulers, and cords on my butt. I don't have scars from them and I never had my skin cut from them. (I'm pretty OCD on sores and cuts on my body. I can remember my first cut...) It whipped me into shape. Sure, I sucked at Math and cause a little issue from time to time, but I knew better and wanted to do better. It was rare that I acutally cut up in a class or otherwise. and I feared the consequence.

I am glad my parents and relatives raised me with discipline. I'm surrounded by children who are the polar opposite, and it PAINS me how their mother lets them run semi-free, but will turn around and wonder WHY they're like that. Lady, are you kiddin' me?!

My parents cared, bottom line. Now, I didn't get spanked all the time. My father would talk to me a lot of the time. He reasoned with me. I got punishments too. Same for my grandma and my aunts. They weren't abusive tyrants, but they didn't take any mess. They were only trying to teach me responsibility and how to be a functioning citizen.

Now, would I tan the hides of my children? Probably not. I can kick it Clair Huxtable style and not break a sweat. I'm getting practice now on a little girl who might as well be my niece. I don't have to pop her or anything. I tell her once to stop, she does it. If not, all I have to do is remove her and tell her why something is wrong. Her grandmother actually has more issues than I do...which is odd, actually...o_o

Now, if there's some serious cutting up, I might tap tap tap. But not a whap whap whap where it's abuse.

If I had the knowledge that I have now I probably wouldn’t have spanked my kids based on the times, neither were extremely knuckleheaded or highly rebellious, so I believe other forms of discipline may have worked fine starting at a young enough age. But I do remember with my daughter when she was around 8 years old I did try the time outs and taking things away, they were not effective at all, not like a swat across the legs (it was scary discovering just how stubborn she could be), in fact it seemed with both of my children changing the form of discipline mid-stream made them think I was being “weak” or rather they didn’t take me seriously, the “look” didn’t work at all, so I went back to spanking and instantly the “look” became effective again. I’ve always gotten good reports back about my children anytime they went anywhere, never had a discipline problem in school always had good citizen marks, tantrums almost nonexistent so I can’t rank spanking as abuse especially as something that leads to confusion, and bad behavior.

It’s far better then nothing which a lot of parents (given limited alternatives) do in fear of hurting their child’s feelings or lowering their self-esteem and that turns out pretty bad in the long run and then suddenly the parent wants to be the disciplinarian when they are teenagers, talk about hell on earth.

paintedlady said:

I have dis-spelled all myths concerning spankings...

I BELIEVE in corporal punishment as ONE form of discipline.... it may not work for all kids, so it shouldn't be used for all kids.

I use all forms of discipline but I NEVER bargain with my kids... nope.

Too many parents make deals with thier kids in lew of spankings and they end up with brats that think they are entitled to doing what ever they want to do.

I have 3 kids.... all are well behaved because I lack patience. I am a single parent and I wear the pants in my family. So I am the disciplinarian, the nurturer, the one they cry to, the one they get mad at, the ONLY parent they learn to deal with. I think I actually have an advantage in the realm of discipline since little gets by me.

Now, just because I spank doesn't mean that all parents should. Not ever parent CAN spank, because not all parents are as smooth as me with it. Some parents do that when they are pissed and beat the shit outta their kids.

You can only spank when you are NOT mad. _walk away, give yourself time to calm down.

You can not bruise their bodies.

You MUST make them get the belt... don't ever use your hand to strike a child.

You MUST talk to your child during and after.

They must know why they are being spanked.

You must spank when all other forms fail.

Always hug your child and resolve any differences.

NEVER call your child any names... ever.

You do not have to agree with me, but I know how to spank... not beat my kids. As kids age, they grow older, spankings are not needed.

I usually only ever spank a child when they do something that will endanger their safety. As they get older and learn to speak and communicate, spankings are usually never handed out.

But a tween/teen will test you once..... they will rise up and try to tell you what's what...

that's when the LAST spanking is handed... with my twenty year old... this happened when he was 15. Yup.. I hit him once in the chest. He never raised up on me after that.

He does what he's told, and I couldn't be prouder of the fine young man he is today. Is is a better person than I could have ever hoped for.

I have witness major verbal-emotional abuse with parents that do not spank and do. It breaks my heart when I see it.

Its more about how you love a child that molds them into the people they become. If you don't spank but are distant, this is worse IMO.

and I never lock a child in a room... that shit is abuse.

I never spanked my daughter but you seem to really know what you are doing

Lammastide said:

paintedlady said:

Hell NO!!!

but I did eat lotion because of her...

Cetaphil lotion tastes like semi-sweet cherries... it is pretty good.

The talcum powder was NASTY... so was the corn starch.

It was cute with the lotion, if I lotioned her face she would let her tongue hang out and do her best to lick my hand.

If I lotioned her, I would have to hold her head gently so she wouldn't lick her arms or feet.

My childhood favorites were Comet Cleanser and little shots of unleaded gasoline (that my dad kept in bottles in our garage until my mom kicked his !#@$ for doing so ). Clearly, I have a very sophisticated palate.

Great. Now I can't get this out of my head...

Comet

It makes your teeth turn green

Comet

It tastes like gas-o-line

Comet

It makes you vomit

So get some Comet

And vomit

Todaaaayyyyyyy

veronikka said:

I never spanked my daughter but you seem to really know what you are doing

I wish I never did spank my kids... you are doing better than me.

I regret it but I am thankful I got the message I needed to get through to my kids, so far... still, I think if I had more knowledge/options I could have done with out those beatings.

Spanking and beating the crap out of your kid are two different things. I got spankings when I was a kid and it taught me discipline. I will definently spank.

Genesia said:

Lammastide said:

My childhood favorites were Comet Cleanser and little shots of unleaded gasoline (that my dad kept in bottles in our garage until my mom kicked his !#@$ for doing so ). Clearly, I have a very sophisticated palate.

Great. Now I can't get this out of my head...

Comet

It makes your teeth turn green

Comet

It tastes like gas-o-line

Comet

It makes you vomit

So get some Comet

And vomit

Todaaaayyyyyyy

So... Googling, it turns out that's an actual children's song!?!?! I can't believe I never heard of it until now!

I think Procter & Gamble should have sued -- and spanked -- all those kids, though. Because I've tried them both, I can vouch Comet and gasoline have quite different tastes.

lPoeticl said:

Spanking and beating the crap out of your kid are two different things. I got spankings when I was a kid and it taught me discipline. I will definently spank.

I'm glad you stated that. Some people think a viscious beating is the same as a spanking. I have friends who think they're spanking but to me it just looks like a useless tap that wouldn't even sting a fly.

Lammastide said:

Genesia said:

Great. Now I can't get this out of my head...

Comet

It makes your teeth turn green

Comet

It tastes like gas-o-line

Comet

It makes you vomit

So get some Comet

And vomit

Todaaaayyyyyyy

So... Googling, it turns out that's an actual children's song!?!?! I can't believe I never heard of it until now!

I think Procter & Gamble should have sued -- and spanked -- all those kids, though. Because I've tried them both, I can vouch Comet and gasoline have quite different tastes.

Yes...yes, it is.

<--- has never eaten Comet or gasoline, thankyouverymuch.

lPoeticl said:

Spanking and beating the crap out of your kid are two different things.

That's a point worth noticing -- and unless they're in full-on abusive environments (which obfuscate* the entire matter), I do think kids can appreciate the difference. I've heard my daughter talk about spankings with other kids, and when she vaguely recalls ever having received a pop on the rump, she doesn't even use the term "spanking," but rather "a (as in a single) spank." Her friends seem to dismiss it as cute.

* Thanks for your recent use of that word, efan. I'm stealing it for a while.

[Edited 4/28/11 15:00pm]

johnart said:

I was spanked when my mother thought it necessary, which was not all frequently.

I did not grow up feeling I was abused or all wah-wah about it.

I did not grow up fearing my mother as a person. I feared the consequence of disrespectful actions. I love respect my mother immensely to this day.

THIS

I was rarely punished as a kid. I was the good child

My brother on the other hand.....the guy was the demon spawn as a child and a teenager. His ass needed to be whupped

[Edited 4/28/11 15:22pm]

Fauxie said:

PunkMistress said:

These threads always bring in the sanctimonious non-parents.

STFU already.

Fauxie, you qualify as a parent (which means you know those kids need a smack every now and then) and therefore don't have to STFU.

Thanks, I appreciate the exemption.

We do feel pretty much like parents, having Nong New in our care for probably 6-14 hours of every day. Golf too, when he's here. Geez, we just got back from taking Golf back to his mother's family's house. It's just heartbreaking. Not because we'll miss him, which of course we will. He's been with us for 2 months. He's got to go back to school though, and he'll be here again towards the end of the year. It's heartbreaking because of seeing how Golf and New deal with it, wondering exactly what they're thinking inside. Golf went quiet as he usually does a couple of hours before we part ways. He deals with it better than he used to, now that he's 7, but I'm not sure what his life is like over there (in Banpong, an hour and a half from Bkk). His grandma basically extorts money from us in return for letting us see him. We feed him, take him to nice places, and buy him all new clothes and school stuff to go back with every time, and yet for some reason she expects us to give her money just for her. It's absurd. Anyway, I've digressed. Golf never wants to go back, just clams up, and he generally seems quite a sad kid beneath it all anyway, probably from confusion about his parents splitting up a few years ago. It's hard to watch him leave. New went with us, but had no idea really what was happening until about 10 mins after we said goodbye to Golf. He was just looking up the street where Golf had left on the motorbike. On the bus on our way back home he was gazing out of the window asking "where is Golf?". He's only 3, and he must get so used to having his half-brother, who he idolises, around for 2 months. How can you make it better for a 3 year old? He hugged me so tightly on the way home. I hate to think of him hurting and confused inside. For the next week or so he'll cry when he wakes up and can't find Golf. Anyway, I know this is all off-topic. Just needed to share.

.

[Edited 4/28/11 8:04am]

You sound like an awesome uncle

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

I don't think the parental non-spankers are judging any parent that does spank... or vice versa.

I think it would be good for me to hear how a non-spanker deals with safety issues that come up in child-rearing. I think much can be learned from posts of that sort.

People just come in and say "I don't spank" nothing else... I think it robs of us provocative discussion and possible teaching oppurtunity. IHMO

What exactly do you want to know?

Um, if my kid were to try and put his hand on a stove burner, I would grab it and move him away and explain why not to touch it.

But then again, I've never had my kid do something like that because I've already explained the dangers long before he is close enough to get into trouble.

I also disagree with the comment that kids can be too young to understand so a smack works better.

Sure, you can't watch your kid 24/hrs a day...but I take the time to explain A LOT before he's having any independent time.

I agree Erin ~

I remember when my younger sister was about 2, my mum used to say AYE AYE AYE!!! when she was going to touch something she shouldn't, like the record player or an electrical socket. The key was to say it in a very loud alarming way, so she'd jump back in surprise. I used that on my kids when they were little, but they never did anything that I remember they shouldn't be doing, safety wise - our house has been childproof for 10 years now, and having 3 under 4 at one stage, I didn't really take them anywhere either the kids couldn't reach the door handles until they were about 5, keeping them where I wanted them was easy.

Effective ways to get them to do what they need to do now at ages 6-10:

count 1, 2 (never get to 3 )

take them by the ear (hold firmly, don't pull. If THEY pull or don't co-operate they know this hurts) and escort them to their room or time-out chair

time out

revoking privileges like wii turn

I don't have kids of my own so i can't comment on discipline... however, when I was about five I did something out of line when my Mom and I were visiting her friend and I got spanked right in front of her. Was very humiliating but I never did it again. So I think spanking is not too bad an thing to do to a child as long as it's with the bare hand and not a switch or wooden spoon, etc. and not done too often. "Spare the rod and spoil the child" and all that.

ZombieKitten said:

I remember when my younger sister was about 2, my mum used to say AYE AYE AYE!!! when she was going to touch something she shouldn't, like the record player or an electrical socket. The key was to say it in a very loud alarming way, so she'd jump back in surprise. I used that on my kids when they were little, but they never did anything that I remember they shouldn't be doing, safety wise - our house has been childproof for 10 years now, and having 3 under 4 at one stage, I didn't really take them anywhere either the kids couldn't reach the door handles until they were about 5, keeping them where I wanted them was easy.

Effective ways to get them to do what they need to do now at ages 6-10:

count 1, 2 (never get to 3 )

take them by the ear (hold firmly, don't pull. If THEY pull or don't co-operate they know this hurts) and escort them to their room or time-out chair

time out

revoking privileges like wii turn

paintedlady said:

ZombieKitten said:

I remember when my younger sister was about 2, my mum used to say AYE AYE AYE!!! when she was going to touch something she shouldn't, like the record player or an electrical socket. The key was to say it in a very loud alarming way, so she'd jump back in surprise. I used that on my kids when they were little, but they never did anything that I remember they shouldn't be doing, safety wise - our house has been childproof for 10 years now, and having 3 under 4 at one stage, I didn't really take them anywhere either the kids couldn't reach the door handles until they were about 5, keeping them where I wanted them was easy.

Effective ways to get them to do what they need to do now at ages 6-10:

count 1, 2 (never get to 3 )

take them by the ear (hold firmly, don't pull. If THEY pull or don't co-operate they know this hurts) and escort them to their room or time-out chair

time out

revoking privileges like wii turn

like a loud alarm

ZombieKitten said:

paintedlady said:

like a loud alarm

I could do that so easily.... sound like an alarm.

What sucks is that their dad would just say hey stop that in a normal voice and they would immediately listen.

What is it about a man's voice? Or is it more because he's dad?

paintedlady said:

ZombieKitten said:

like a loud alarm

I could do that so easily.... sound like an alarm.

What sucks is that their dad would just say hey stop that in a normal voice and they would immediately listen.

What is it about a man's voice? Or is it more because he's dad?

reverse is true at my house

everyone winces at the sound of my voice