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Reply #30 posted 05/05/11 7:57pm

HotGritz

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bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:

And he's corny, ALL these mofos corny ass dudes really. Not sexy. I don't see no cock diesel confidence among none of 'em. I'd give they asses a rubber ass check Saturday and stop payment on Monday. disbelief lol

I was flipping channels and saw one dude crying over his lifestyle like a lil ole bitch and went back to watching Love and Hip Hop neutral

spit Where Fab's baby momma cries over her lifestyle like a lil ole bitch.

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Reply #31 posted 05/05/11 8:23pm

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HotGritz said:

bboy87 said:

I was flipping channels and saw one dude crying over his lifestyle like a lil ole bitch and went back to watching Love and Hip Hop neutral

spit Where Fab's baby momma cries over her lifestyle like a lil ole bitch.

That's a dumb ass if I ever seen one....and I've seen plenty lol

She stays crying over his ass yet this dude won't even publicly claim you and she lets it go neutral

and Somaya....how the fuck did she go from the chick who was posting pictures of herself all over Myspace to be on a TV show? And who else remembers her being on Dr. Phil about being obsessed with Myspace? lol

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #32 posted 05/05/11 10:38pm

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bboy87 said:

HotGritz said:

spit Where Fab's baby momma cries over her lifestyle like a lil ole bitch.

That's a dumb ass if I ever seen one....and I've seen plenty lol

She stays crying over his ass yet this dude won't even publicly claim you and she lets it go neutral

and Somaya....how the fuck did she go from the chick who was posting pictures of herself all over Myspace to be on a TV show? And who else remembers her being on Dr. Phil about being obsessed with Myspace? lol

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Reply #33 posted 05/06/11 2:43pm

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Did anyone catch the episode that just aired last night? I guess you could call it the "relationship" episode. One of 'em (his name escapes me) had a "girlfriend" and by the end of the show they broke up due to her not being too cool with his whorin'. Uh, duh, you knew this going in, bitch!! What's the problem NOW??

And then there's Brace not sure if he wants to do it anymore cuz he's thinking about wanting to settle down. Either shit or get off the pot. I'm tired of hearing his whining every damn show!

The ugly Vin Diesel wanna-be is hired to enter a salsa dancing contest with this lady. And of course after all the practicing and the contest, they fuck. Shit, the dance teacher at the studio was mad hotter than her!

So, what say you? lol

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Reply #34 posted 05/06/11 3:58pm

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

Did anyone catch the episode that just aired last night? I guess you could call it the "relationship" episode. One of 'em (his name escapes me) had a "girlfriend" and by the end of the show they broke up due to her not being too cool with his whorin'. Uh, duh, you knew this going in, bitch!! What's the problem NOW??

And then there's Brace not sure if he wants to do it anymore cuz he's thinking about wanting to settle down. Either shit or get off the pot. I'm tired of hearing his whining every damn show!

The ugly Vin Diesel wanna-be is hired to enter a salsa dancing contest with this lady. And of course after all the practicing and the contest, they fuck. Shit, the dance teacher at the studio was mad hotter than her!

So, what say you? lol

bawl I missed it!!!!

I can't believe that a woman would knowingly go into a relationship with a man prostitute then get upset about his profession later. The only way I could see that playing out is if the girlfriend was once a client.

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Reply #35 posted 05/06/11 4:19pm

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

Did anyone catch the episode that just aired last night? I guess you could call it the "relationship" episode. One of 'em (his name escapes me) had a "girlfriend" and by the end of the show they broke up due to her not being too cool with his whorin'. Uh, duh, you knew this going in, bitch!! What's the problem NOW??

And then there's Brace not sure if he wants to do it anymore cuz he's thinking about wanting to settle down. Either shit or get off the pot. I'm tired of hearing his whining every damn show!

The ugly Vin Diesel wanna-be is hired to enter a salsa dancing contest with this lady. And of course after all the practicing and the contest, they fuck. Shit, the dance teacher at the studio was mad hotter than her!

So, what say you? lol

I taped it haven't watched it yet. Is this the same dude that cooked for ol girl then fucked her? I know SHE ain't gettin' morals NOW. rolleyes

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Reply #36 posted 05/06/11 4:24pm

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HotGritz said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Did anyone catch the episode that just aired last night? I guess you could call it the "relationship" episode. One of 'em (his name escapes me) had a "girlfriend" and by the end of the show they broke up due to her not being too cool with his whorin'. Uh, duh, you knew this going in, bitch!! What's the problem NOW??

And then there's Brace not sure if he wants to do it anymore cuz he's thinking about wanting to settle down. Either shit or get off the pot. I'm tired of hearing his whining every damn show!

The ugly Vin Diesel wanna-be is hired to enter a salsa dancing contest with this lady. And of course after all the practicing and the contest, they fuck. Shit, the dance teacher at the studio was mad hotter than her!

So, what say you? lol

bawl I missed it!!!!

I can't believe that a woman would knowingly go into a relationship with a man prostitute then get upset about his profession later. The only way I could see that playing out is if the girlfriend was once a client.

Awww. comfort

Well, I'm sure you'll be able to find it somewhere on the net to download. Is it just me, or does it seem that Showtime doesn't really repeat these episodes much? Is it the negative publicity I've read the show has received?

I feel you on the relationship piece. There's no way I could get in a relationship with a prostitute, ESPECIALLY one on TV, like one of the Bunny Ranch girls or some shit.

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Reply #37 posted 05/06/11 4:34pm

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

HotGritz said:

bawl I missed it!!!!

I can't believe that a woman would knowingly go into a relationship with a man prostitute then get upset about his profession later. The only way I could see that playing out is if the girlfriend was once a client.

Awww. comfort

Well, I'm sure you'll be able to find it somewhere on the net to download. Is it just me, or does it seem that Showtime doesn't really repeat these episodes much? Is it the negative publicity I've read the show has received?

I feel you on the relationship piece. There's no way I could get in a relationship with a prostitute, ESPECIALLY one on TV, like one of the Bunny Ranch girls or some shit.

nah its not just you. Showtime is definitely not repeating the eps in the same fashion as some of their other series and it may be due to the negative publicity. From what I've read the negative attention stems from rumors that these guys aren't really hookers to they are hookers and they're somehow skirting Nevada's prostitution laws. I'm wondering if they will make it another season. My only issue with the show, which I believe to be authentic, is that the dudes simply aren't hot enough. I mean $550 an hour for that? They can't even dress right. lol

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Reply #38 posted 05/07/11 2:27am

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HotGritz said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Awww. comfort

Well, I'm sure you'll be able to find it somewhere on the net to download. Is it just me, or does it seem that Showtime doesn't really repeat these episodes much? Is it the negative publicity I've read the show has received?

I feel you on the relationship piece. There's no way I could get in a relationship with a prostitute, ESPECIALLY one on TV, like one of the Bunny Ranch girls or some shit.

nah its not just you. Showtime is definitely not repeating the eps in the same fashion as some of their other series and it may be due to the negative publicity. From what I've read the negative attention stems from rumors that these guys aren't really hookers to they are hookers and they're somehow skirting Nevada's prostitution laws. I'm wondering if they will make it another season. My only issue with the show, which I believe to be authentic, is that the dudes simply aren't hot enough. I mean $550 an hour for that? They can't even dress right. lol

falloff

I believe the show's authentic, too. As authentic as that Bunny Ranch show that was on HBO a few years back.

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Reply #39 posted 05/09/11 6:47pm

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

HotGritz said:

nah its not just you. Showtime is definitely not repeating the eps in the same fashion as some of their other series and it may be due to the negative publicity. From what I've read the negative attention stems from rumors that these guys aren't really hookers to they are hookers and they're somehow skirting Nevada's prostitution laws. I'm wondering if they will make it another season. My only issue with the show, which I believe to be authentic, is that the dudes simply aren't hot enough. I mean $550 an hour for that? They can't even dress right. lol

falloff

I believe the show's authentic, too. As authentic as that Bunny Ranch show that was on HBO a few years back.

They show re-runs of that and those women were quite....busted.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
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Reply #40 posted 05/09/11 8:58pm

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HotGritz said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

falloff

I believe the show's authentic, too. As authentic as that Bunny Ranch show that was on HBO a few years back.

They show re-runs of that and those women were quite....busted.

shake Busted ain't even near enough. I tried to watch that mess but was so disgusted by them letting their fat ass pimp fuck for free. talk to the hand

Now G-String Divas . . . that was my SHIT!!! booty!

I still wonder what happened to the Brazilian chick named Jordan. That bitch was FOINE! love

Those girls were really interesting and complex. I can tell you all their names and I ain't seen that shit in years. lol

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Reply #41 posted 06/06/11 1:51pm

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http://www.thedailybeast....ow-is-not/

Are Gigolos Real?

The reality show Gigolos, which chronicles the sexual exploits of male prostitutes with a women-only client base, is so fake it raises the question of whether the profession exists.


Gigolos, the Showtime reality show that purports to document the real lives of men in Las Vegas who sexually service women for cash, stretches credibility even by reality-show standards.

We see them move from clients as innocuous as a schoolteacher to more exotic ones like a dominatrix. Among the blur of women supposedly paying these men for sex in episode after episode, we are to believe there is a model who finds it a turn-on that she is the one paying for the man; another is a woman who—almost inconceivably—wants to audition four men to be her date at a charity ball by driving each one around in a limo asking questions. Between clients, the gigolos hang out in places like a topless bar, where they attempt awkward banter.

Article - Abowitz GigolosCourtesy of Showtime


As The New York Times’ ske...view noted: “It’s not unheard of for women to pay for sex, but if Internet ads are any indication, the market looks a whole lot stronger for gay male escorts. So a look at women-only gigolos in Las Vegas is a little like a cooking show devoted entirely to vegan steak recipes.” And then there are those, including male porn star Christian XXX, who flat-out think gigolos are an urban myth. “Male escorts work for guys, and the ones who claim to only do women are lying,” he told me. “I know a lot of men who do escorting, and the money is only in guys.”

Take the independent self-listing site for straight male escorts, Companions4women.com, which lists exactly one available man who services women exclusively for all Las Vegas—Mike. Yet Showtime’s Gigolos, which premiered in early April, purports to follow the lives of five male escorts who, according to promotional material, are “living and working hard in Las Vegas” for the escort website Cowboys4Angels.com.

So what is going on? How real is Gigolos, and are there really gigolos in Vegas—or anywhere? Or are they merely mythological creatures, as Christian XXX and others believe?

The Daily Beast was able to reach one woman depicted on the show, and she freely admits her appearance on Gigolos is entirely fictional. She claims she was hired by one of the show’s producers. “They came to me and said they wanted to work with me,” she says. “They found me through a website. They wanted to know what skills I had. Then they created a scenario where I would need an escort, and they hired me.”

This woman asked that her name be withheld for fear of violating a nondisclosure agreement. But she considers her job on Gigolos to be work as an actress. The sex was simulated for the camera, she says; and she claims she certainly did not pay the male escort for anything. “It’s a reality show. No one believes that shit. Everyone knows that’s all scripted. I had fun, and it was great. They were cool people to work with. I would have done a prostitute show if they paid me.” (When asked to comment for this article—and specifically asked whether the network cares about the show’s fakery—a Showtime publicist wrote in an email, “The network does not want to participate in this story.”)

“The market for male escorts is all guys,” said a straight male porn star who has tested the market.

The woman who was cast in the show does seem convinced that the man she was filmed with, who is one of its five stars, is in reality a male escort. “They aren’t from Vegas. But they are real escorts,” she says.

Another Las Vegas local involved with the production enough to have an on-screen credit in every episode—who also agreed to be interviewed only without attribution—says that yes, the men on the show are true gigolos. But he stops short of saying that the women are real customers. “I can’t vouch for how they got the women to do the show or if the women are real,” he says. “But I know Garren James, and the men are real.”

Garren James—that would be the owner of Cowboys4Angels.com (who has a bit part on Gigolos). James agreed to be interviewed by email only.

Q: Were escorts reluctant to allow their faces to be shown?

A: Obviously not.

Q: Were clients reluctant to be on television hiring escorts?

A: No comment.

In an interview with Salon, James was more direct on the issue of the women on the show. "They were compensated ... They definitely got compensated,” he said.

James says he currently has no male escorts in Las Vegas available to be interviewed. But The Daily Beast was able to reach by phone one of the men featured in Gigolos, Vin Armani, who insists everything on the show is legitimate. (Even though he thinks none of them actually live in Las Vegas.)

Armani says a busy month for him could be as many as eight appointments—quite different from a female prostitute, or a male one serving other men. “Or it could be only three really long ones,” he says.

James does admit that the situation of a full-time male escort with straight female clients is not as straightforward as it appears in Showtime’s version.

“Most of my men have other jobs,” he wrote in an email. “They see clients at night and on weekends. Most go to castings as models and actors or have personal training gigs. Women tend to book longer appointments so only seeing two clients per week for four hours at a time is $2000 per week. Lots of guys get booked at least once a month for a weekend at $5000 as the fee. Yes, most of the men can make a very good living off just doing this alone but they have so much free time to pursue other things so they usually do.”

Asked again how many men on his site pursue being gigolos full-time, James wrote, “Like I said before this job only requires small amounts of time per week so most do other things to keep themselves busy and active.”

For James’ gigolos who aren’t on Gigolos, perhaps even less time may be required—as in none. One man listed on the site claims he was willing to do the work, but never got a call about a client. He did not want his name used for fear he would be seen as the “ugly guy.”

But porn star Jordan Lane has no problem admitting to having spent, he thinks, more than a year on the site without ever receiving work. The reason Lane has no problems being upfront about striking out is that he sides with Christian XXX and believes gigolos are the Loch Ness monster of the sex trade: they simply don’t exist.

“The market for male escorts is all guys,” Lane says. “I was willing to do it for women only, because I am straight. But I never expected a call from that site, and I never got one.” (Shortly after our interview Lane’s profile was removed from the homepage, though it is still viewable via link.)

Obviously, James and Armani disagree with Lane and Christian XXX. Armani says, “I know it is like Bigfoot or something to some people and that this is hard to believe. But we are the best, and there is always a market for that.”

James claims to have discovered the need for that market by creating the first male-escort agency for women only. If he is so successful, why does he appear to have so few competitors or imitators? He says, “All that tried to follow me were out of business within months.” He claims the quality of the men he lists is the difference.

Clearly, Gigolos raises a lot of red flags when examined as documentary reality. But to the question of gigolos not existing at all, I had a female friend contact Cowboys4Angels.com to make an appointment. The unnamed person who answered the phone said she could have the man of her choice within 24 hours for the rate on the website.

That was more than enough reality for her. She hung up.

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Reply #42 posted 06/06/11 1:56pm

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Well, HotGritz, I guess the article above answers our question about the so-called lady janes and why they'd be willing to appear on camera paying for sex. Figured this was more than likely the case, but it's good to know some of the inner workings (read: bullshit) of the show.

I think the season's over and done with, if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know for sure. I'm getting the feeling there won't be a season 2, what with all the flack Showtime seems to have gotten so far for it.

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Reply #43 posted 06/09/11 4:26pm

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Well, HotGritz, I guess the article above answers our question about the so-called lady janes and why they'd be willing to appear on camera paying for sex. Figured this was more than likely the case, but it's good to know some of the inner workings (read: bullshit) of the show.

I think the season's over and done with, if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know for sure. I'm getting the feeling there won't be a season 2, what with all the flack Showtime seems to have gotten so far for it.

I totally agree. However, I think the critics set out to destroy this show from jump street. For whatever reason, there is a segment of the population that doesn't want to believe nor even consider that women would ever pay for sex or that straight men would ever be prostitutes. It's a similar thing with male strippers. Some people think, "women would never pay a man to take off his clothes and dance" - um...yes we would! Others think "no straight guy would ever strip" - um...yes they would!lol

Just because something isn't common doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Oh well...I'm just glad those chicks were getting paid because I was starting to lose what little respect I had left for the female population. wink

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