SUPRMAN said:

I never said I check out women, I said I love when they check me out.

Virgo92 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I'll be specific. Virgo doesn't want to be sexual harass by gay men anyone. And he has the right to feel that way. But Virgo can NOT use how he feels as an excuse to stereotype all gay men as sexual harassers because of that one problem in his local area.

Nonetheless, I strongly agree with you Erin. Virgo is a homophobe. And he needs to grow up.

I agree with everything you said, except the homophobe part. I don't dislike gay people, one of my classmates is gay and we are cool as hell. I just don't like being around gay people. I listen to Freddie Murcury, Elton John and David Bowie.Their all was/is gay.

Correction: You don't like being around men you know are openly gay. Closeted gay men are ok as long as they don't come at you.

SUPRMAN said:

Fauxie said:

Good point. Personally I like my gays more flamboyant and effeminate though. Better the devil you know and all that. I can see their advances coming a mile away and have plenty of time to put my arm around my wife and make the bad thoughts go away.

Is that's what happening when I'm checking guys out and they suddenly want to engage in PDA?

Probably.

I don't have a PDA, hence a wife.

Virgo92 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I'll be specific. Virgo doesn't want to be sexual harass by gay men anyone. And he has the right to feel that way. But Virgo can NOT use how he feels as an excuse to stereotype all gay men as sexual harassers because of that one problem in his local area.

Nonetheless, I strongly agree with you Erin. Virgo is a homophobe. And he needs to grow up.

I agree with everything you said, except the homophobe part. I don't dislike gay people, one of my classmates is gay and we are cool as hell. I just don't like being around gay people. I listen to Freddie Murcury, Elton John and David Bowie.Their all was/is gay.

If you werent a man (boy) of color (or at least you profess to be) I'd be expecting you to say that you have a black friend next.

Virgo92 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I'll be specific. Virgo doesn't want to be sexual harass by gay men anyone. And he has the right to feel that way. But Virgo can NOT use how he feels as an excuse to stereotype all gay men as sexual harassers because of that one problem in his local area.

Nonetheless, I strongly agree with you Erin. Virgo is a homophobe. And he needs to grow up.

I agree with everything you said, except the homophobe part. I don't dislike gay people, one of my classmates is gay and we are cool as hell. I just don't like being around gay people. I listen to Freddie Murcury, Elton John and David Bowie.Their all was/is gay.

I've had guys make similar comments to me.

I suddenly become the exception to their rule because they know me.

SUPRMAN said:

Agree.

Virgo92 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I'll be specific. Virgo doesn't want to be sexual harass by gay men anyone. And he has the right to feel that way. But Virgo can NOT use how he feels as an excuse to stereotype all gay men as sexual harassers because of that one problem in his local area.

Nonetheless, I strongly agree with you Erin. Virgo is a homophobe. And he needs to grow up.

I agree with everything you said, except the homophobe part. I don't dislike gay people, one of my classmates is gay and we are cool as hell. I just don't like being around gay people. I listen to Freddie Murcury, Elton John and David Bowie.Their all was/is gay.

You don't like to be around gay men, you think they want to fuck you, they make you uncomfortable.

You don't have to flat out hate gay people to be a homophobe, but by your own omission, you fear them.

That's a homophobe, dude.

Virgo92 said:

SUPRMAN said:

But it shouldn't bother women when you check them out right?

I think I smell hypocrisy.

I never said I check out women, I said I love when they check me out.

A heterosexual male who doesn't check out women.

What are you, gay or something?

SUPRMAN said:

Virgo92 said:

SUPRMAN said: I never said I check out women, I said I love when they check me out.

A heterosexual male who doesn't check out women.

What are you, gay or something?

Fauxie said:

SUPRMAN said:

Is that's what happening when I'm checking guys out and they suddenly want to engage in PDA?

Probably.

I don't have a PDA, hence a wife.

LOL

PDA = public display of affection. Suddenly hugging, grabbing hands etc.

(I know you know )

SUPRMAN said:

If your gay, Im sorry if I offended you or the gay community in any way.

Fauxie said:

Virgo92 said:

I respect gay people, but I can't be around gay men. It's just weird, I always think that they wanna fuck me. Gay girls on the other hand...we need more of them

Isn't that a good thing? I don't understand why it's such an issue. I was gang raped by a group of gays, and since I'm straight it wasn't really my thing, but it was flattering.

I live in San Francisco and the city is a draw for all kinds of people, especially hot guys. Often times you can see me stopping a hot guy on the street, grabbing his dick, and coming in real close to say "I WANT that."

JustErin said:

Virgo92 said:

TonyVanDam said: I agree with everything you said, except the homophobe part. I don't dislike gay people, one of my classmates is gay and we are cool as hell. I just don't like being around gay people. I listen to Freddie Murcury, Elton John and David Bowie.Their all was/is gay.

You don't like to be around gay men, you think they want to fuck you, they make you uncomfortable.

You don't have to flat out hate gay people to be a homophobe, but by your own omission, you fear them.

That's a homophobe, dude.

Whoa, I wrote omission by accident. Oops.

Admission.

JustErin said:

Ok, I accept that.

Virgo92 said:

SUPRMAN said:

Correction: You don't like being around men you know are openly gay. Closeted gay men are ok as long as they don't come at you.

Agree.

Sad to read that.

SUPRMAN said:

I'm straight. I was just I never actually said I checked out women, because u said something about hypocrisy.

SUPRMAN said:

Virgo92 said:

SUPRMAN said: Agree.

Sad to read that.

Why? No it's not. It's wonderful. In fact, I can't wait for him to take that attitude out into the real world where his 18 year old self can find out how life really works. And then he's going to be REAL fucked up because of his association between "out of the closet" and "ostensibly gay."

Then this motherfucker is going to make some friends in his adult life and one, if not more, are going to BE openly gay (but not effeminate). He's going to say the wrong thing. Then he's going to get his ass beat.

SUPRMAN said:

TonyVanDam said:

Like hell he doesn't!

THIS^ is one of THE gayest music videos of all time. How you can NOT see Elton leaving a lot of hints AND clues to the viewers is beyond me.

Excuse you Virgo, but I refuse to believe that you're so naive to the facts.

ELTON JOHN has never been in the closet.

There was a time when Elton used to lie about his homosexuality by telling people he was bisexual. Elton also married to a straight woman at one point.

Spinlight said:

Fauxie said:

Isn't that a good thing? I don't understand why it's such an issue. I was gang raped by a group of gays, and since I'm straight it wasn't really my thing, but it was flattering.

I live in San Francisco and the city is a draw for all kinds of people, especially hot guys. Often times you can see me stopping a hot guy on the street, grabbing his dick, and coming in real close to say "I WANT that."

That's cool. Like Virgo92 I respect gays because they're free and they live how they want to live, not letting the law or right and wrong or God or whatever stop them. I respect their choices. It's so wrong when ppl treat them like they're different or gay or whatever. We're all the same.

SUPRMAN said:

Sad to read what? I put "agree" to end the convo haha

Spinlight said:

Fauxie said:

Isn't that a good thing? I don't understand why it's such an issue. I was gang raped by a group of gays, and since I'm straight it wasn't really my thing, but it was flattering.

I live in San Francisco and the city is a draw for all kinds of people, especially hot guys. Often times you can see me stopping a hot guy on the street, grabbing his dick, and coming in real close to say "I WANT that."

That what happens when all those 'liberals' get together . . .

SUPRMAN said:

Fauxie said:

Probably.

I don't have a PDA, hence a wife.

LOL

PDA = public display of affection. Suddenly hugging, grabbing hands etc.

(I know you know )

Fauxie said:

I'm going to try to get over being around gay people. I'm going to try to fix that problem.

Virgo92 said:

SUPRMAN said:

A heterosexual male who doesn't check out women.

What are you, gay or something?

I'm straight. I was just I never actually said I checked out women, because u said something about hypocrisy.

Then just stand up straight. (Couldn't resist, sorry)

IF it's a double standard, be man enough to own it.

My straight friends don't want to be looked at the way they look at women. They will even agree it's a double standard, but that isn't going to change the way they feel.

SUPRMAN said:

Spinlight said:

I live in San Francisco and the city is a draw for all kinds of people, especially hot guys. Often times you can see me stopping a hot guy on the street, grabbing his dick, and coming in real close to say "I WANT that."

That what happens when all those 'liberals' get together . . .

I see you over there from across the bay, baby! Don't be shy!!!

SUPRMAN said:

Oooh Kay, I see what your saying.

Nice joke by the way.

Virgo92 said:

Fauxie said:

That's cool. Like Virgo92 I respect gays because they're free and they live how they want to live, not letting the law or right and wrong or God or whatever stop them. I respect their choices. It's so wrong when ppl treat them like they're different or gay or whatever. We're all the same.

I'm going to try to get over being around gay people. I'm going to try to fix that problem.

That's good. Just try not to be uncomfortable or show your fear. They thrive on that and might not be able to stop themselves making a move. If you show it's no thing then soon you'll be accepted as just one of the guys, and then you can explore your feelings in your own time.

JustErin said:

Virgo92 said:

I respect gay people, but I can't be around gay men. It's just weird, I always think that they wanna fuck me. Gay girls on the other hand...we need more of them

And what if they do want to fuck you? Are you afraid that you'll be convinced to do it?

I simply don't get this reasoning.

the fear of being gay

I have spoken to straight men who are uncomfortable around gay men for the fear that they may be hit on. And it's not the hitting on itself (that part is kind of flattering), it's the fear that they themselves may be inadvertently be sending out a gay vibe, the fear that they themselves may be mistaken for being gay. The fear that other straight men, their friends even might ridicule them or even victimise them. It's a legitimate fear, gay men have been bashed and killed just for being gay

Fauxie said:

Thanks for the advice.

Spinlight said:

SUPRMAN said:

Sad to read that.

Why? No it's not. It's wonderful. In fact, I can't wait for him to take that attitude out into the real world where his 18 year old self can find out how life really works. And then he's going to be REAL fucked up because of his association between "out of the closet" and "ostensibly gay."

Then this motherfucker is going to make some friends in his adult life and one, if not more, are going to BE openly gay (but not effeminate). He's going to say the wrong thing. Then he's going to get his ass beat.

I remember going to a therapist in the military as part of drug counseling.

He almost his professional composure when I told him I was gay. There was just the two of us in the room. I thought he was going to run out.

Two weeks later, he told me that his best friend had just come out to him. It shook him up because he felt he should have known.

I became his therapist, helping him deal with it. He did not want to remain the man's friend, even though the man had never made a pass at it.

That's what's going to fuck up Virgo. He's going to have some cool friends and not know how to act when/if they come out.

There was one guy in the military who was SO pissed at me, because I never tried to get with him despite the fact that he would make himself available. I loved him, but as a friend and wouldn't want to have ruined it by trying to make him my everything.