So basically, the reporter didn't ask him about Spike but he still went on a tirade. Chile, I couldn't hear anything much past all that pearl-clutchin.
So basically, the reporter didn't ask him about Spike but he still went on a tirade. Chile, I couldn't hear anything much past all that pearl-clutchin.
This has the potential of turning into a real life "Maxine Vs Kyle" situation
So basically, the reporter didn't ask him about Spike but he still went on a tirade. Chile, I couldn't hear anything much past all that pearl-clutchin.
This has the potential of turning into a real life "Maxine Vs Kyle" situation
So basically, the reporter didn't ask him about Spike but he still went on a tirade. Chile, I couldn't hear anything much past all that pearl-clutchin.
The audio didn't work for me but that is interesting that he chose to comment on Spike without being asked. Was he even prompted?
I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT! RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer.
So basically, the reporter didn't ask him about Spike but he still went on a tirade. Chile, I couldn't hear anything much past all that pearl-clutchin.
The audio didn't work for me but that is interesting that he chose to comment on Spike without being asked. Was he even prompted?
The reporter started to ask him a question, and while he was setting it up, TP jumped to the conclusion he was gonna ask him about Spike, which he didn't. Then TP and his estrogen-filled ass went in on Spike.
Cant wait to see the movie version of Madea Big Happy Family..hope its good...i know it will not be as forward as the play though..they never are...its like comparing a book to a movie.
I love the play "Madea's Family Reunion" but didn't like the movie at all. The play had a lot more of Madea in it but the movie focused more on the other characters and didn't have near as much Madea in it. She was also tamer in the movie than she was in the play. In the play, she shoots at the neighbor's dog which was a funny scene. I guess they couldn't do it in the movie though for all the "animal rights" lovers. But the movie didn't even seem to have the same storyline as the play at all. They were totally different.
Also, the play had some great gospel music. I'm not even into gospel music but those heffers were doing a great job belting out those gospel tunes. I was actually enjoying the songs rather than fast forwarding through the tape like I usually do when a song comes on. In the movie though, they had to sell out and use that damn god awful neo stool music that's depressing as hell. I saw the movie on TV so I couldn't fast forward through that shit. Plus he had to go get the biggest name actors he could find. Hell, use your play cast. They could use some exposure and fame rather than these huge established actors that he cast in the movies. It just seems like he sold out when he started doing the movies.
My sister loves the hell out of him though. She loves everything he's ever done. He's to her like Prince is to a lot of folks on this site. I only care for the stuff with the character Madea in it though. I've seen a little of his other stuff but the character Madea is the only stuff that I care for because she's so damn crazy.
Spike Lee's last good movie was Malcolm X, so I guess that he can go to hell...
No...
Crooklyn
Clockers
Summer of Sam
Inside Man
????
I love "Crooklyn" and "Summer Of Sam". "Crooklyn" is my favorite of his films. I can just hear that old bitch right now walking through the rain storm looking for her little dog......
Tweetehhhhh.....Oh Lord have merceh, where is my baybeh......
Tweeeeeeeetehhhhhhh.........
I don't know why they had to alter the camera and stretch their bodies when the girl was visiting the aunt though. I kept wondering was something wrong with my TV screen when it got to that part.
I love "Crooklyn" and "Summer Of Sam". "Crooklyn" is my favorite of his films. I can just hear that old bitch right now walking through the rain storm looking for her little dog......
Tweetehhhhh.....Oh Lord have merceh, where is my baybeh......
Tweeeeeeeetehhhhhhh.........
I don't know why they had to alter the camera and stretch their bodies when the girl was visiting the aunt though. I kept wondering was something wrong with my TV screen when it got to that part.
That was nuts, wasn't it? It was to push the feel of the main character being in a completely different world. Notice that eventually you got used to that look (just as she got used to that environment). And when the film returned to Brooklyn, it probably took you some time to readjust (again - just like the main character).
What was the name of the show that gif is from? The little girl was a robot? I used to love that show but I can't think of the name of it, for nothing.
The show's name is "Small Wonder". I used to watch it religiously as a kid .
"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
I love "Crooklyn" and "Summer Of Sam". "Crooklyn" is my favorite of his films. I can just hear that old bitch right now walking through the rain storm looking for her little dog......
Tweetehhhhh.....Oh Lord have merceh, where is my baybeh......
Tweeeeeeeetehhhhhhh.........
I don't know why they had to alter the camera and stretch their bodies when the girl was visiting the aunt though. I kept wondering was something wrong with my TV screen when it got to that part.
I'm guessing it's trying to say the family was "square".
No doubt Spike is likely jealous of Tyler's success (there isn't a Spike Lee movie studio to my knowledge) but it's a shame that these two can't come together and collaborate and learn from one another. Clearly Spike is missing something because he hasn't had a hit in I don't know how long and clearly Tyler is limiting himself to a certain type of audience within the black movie going public and short changing himself on industry respect.
That is what should have happened.
How about Spike and Tyler do a film called:
Madea DOES THE RIGHT THING!
It can be about her early days as an integral part of the civil rights movement; back when she and Rosa Parks were best buds.
Genius! They need to hire you.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
What was the name of the show that gif is from? The little girl was a robot? I used to love that show but I can't think of the name of it, for nothing.
i've never seen a tyler perry movie (nor do i have any interest) but the only films i like from spike lee are:
-crooklyn
-four little girls
-joe's bed-sty barbershop: we cut headz
and
-bamboozled.
his films stylistically are a direct reflection of scorsese (who was a mentor to lee). those dolly shots known to be a lee trademark are straight up scorsese (a major example being films like 'mean streets').
lee is a much better documentarian than he is fictional director. i haven't seen the films he did on katrina, but i'd really love to. apparently he's working on a film based on those michael jackson events he's been putting on.
if tyler perry does a film like 'sankofa' then maybe i'll look more into his work. but until then, no thank you. with that, i don't have much of an opinion of perry and his work. they just seem like typical hollywood films to me. i'd feel better if he put money behind the toussaint l'overture project, as opposed to the same 'pathology of black folks' films. it's either that, or bafoonery.
I do. Not the "attempted" comedy I find undignified, but his portrayal of black women in his movies is,,,,,,I sound like a broken record at this point, so you know what I mean. And it NEVER ceases to amazes me that out of all the people who should flock to his films, WOMEN make his largest audience. Truly amazing.
That being said, Spike Lee ain't exactly off the hook either. While Tyler painted his female characters to be a certain way, Spike objectified the HELL outta them, I wonder if anybody confronted him about this thing.
And I don't feel one ounce of remorse for Tyler, he said blatantly that he has no intentions to evolve and push his limits, but will cry foul when folks call him out on it.
one of the major critics of lee's cinematic mysogyny is bell hooks. she has called him out in public, and unsurprisingly he's dismissed her.
Interesting that folk would make this out as a "Perry vs. Lee" thing. The stuff Spike says about Tyler's crap work didn't begin or end with Spike.
That aside, while I'm VERY critical of Tyler Perry's stuff, I have to disagree with my man Spike on one point: Beneath the silliness, I've never felt Perry's stuff was undignified. Simply making people laugh does not make one a buffoon. And Perry's foolery is always offset by a certain degree of wisdom. I do think Perry's work is trapped, however, in clichés, theatric fallacies and rudimentary narrative archs that are downright insulting to me as a thinking adult. I want to see him improve, because I suspect he can give us so much more sophistication.
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That's always been my take as well. I think that his formulaic approach is mostly a result of his not having much formal education, whereas Spike is a college graduate and holds a master's degree in film plus his mother was a fine arts teacher. That Tyler's scope is more limited than Spike's isn't surprising given that the two come from completely different circumstances.
What he has achieved is still quite remarkable for someone who never finished high school and I still believe that his work will evolve. It would be great if the two of them could set aside the pissing contest and benefit from each other's experiences. Lee could teach him a lot.
I haven't seen his last two films and I can't stand his tv shows but I'll probably go see Madea's Happy Family.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
Interesting that folk would make this out as a "Perry vs. Lee" thing. The stuff Spike says about Tyler's crap work didn't begin or end with Spike.
That aside, while I'm VERY critical of Tyler Perry's stuff, I have to disagree with my man Spike on one point: Beneath the silliness, I've never felt Perry's stuff was undignified. Simply making people laugh does not make one a buffoon. And Perry's foolery is always offset by a certain degree of wisdom. I do think Perry's work is trapped, however, in clichés, theatric fallacies and rudimentary narrative archs that are downright insulting to me as a thinking adult. I want to see him improve, because I suspect he can give us so much more sophistication.
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That's always been my take as well. I think that his formulaic approach is mostly a result of his not having much formal education, whereas Spike is a college graduate and holds a master's degree in film plus his mother was a fine arts teacher. That Tyler's scope is more limited than Spike's isn't surprising given that the two come from completely different circumstances.
What he has achieved is still quite remarkable for someone who never finished high school and I still believe that his work will evolve. It would be great if the two of them could set aside the pissing contest and benefit from each other's experiences. Lee could teach him a lot.
I haven't seen his last two films and I can't stand his tv shows but I'll probably go see Madea's Happy Family.
You can't evolve from stupid and that's Perry's problem. Whoopi and Oprah had the capacity to learn and Perry refuses too cause he is stuck on stupid. Educate yourself and your ass will follow Mr. Perry.
I put $5 dolla on Spike being the bottom. Tyler aint neva gonna let nobody ride him again...not if Madea have anything to say about it. I'm gonna call that script Biker Boyz II. Guest starring Chippy D.
Oh hayellll naw, you already know TP would be too eager to throw them legs straight back hollering, "I gotta have it, Spikey!"
Has anyone here ever met a heterosexual male who used the expression "straight to hell"?
I mean, is it even possible to pronouce it other than "straiiyt ta hell"??
Now, see I didn't wanna bring up the "Lavender Mafia" association because that that shit is waaaaay too easy. And hell yeah, you're right, I could def picture him putting some pizzazz into the expression, hunny :sexy"
I do. Not the "attempted" comedy I find undignified, but his portrayal of black women in his movies is,,,,,,I sound like a broken record at this point, so you know what I mean. And it NEVER ceases to amazes me that out of all the people who should flock to his films, WOMEN make his largest audience. Truly amazing.
That being said, Spike Lee ain't exactly off the hook either. While Tyler painted his female characters to be a certain way, Spike objectified the HELL outta them, I wonder if anybody confronted him about this thing.
And I don't feel one ounce of remorse for Tyler, he said blatantly that he has no intentions to evolve and push his limits, but will cry foul when folks call him out on it.
one of the major critics of lee's cinematic mysogyny is bell hooks. she has called him out in public, and unsurprisingly he's dismissed her.
Thank you for replying, I tried searching for something that link the two, and this is the only thing I could find:
She didn't criticizes him in this clip, however she took it home.
Interesting that folk would make this out as a "Perry vs. Lee" thing. The stuff Spike says about Tyler's crap work didn't begin or end with Spike.
That aside, while I'm VERY critical of Tyler Perry's stuff, I have to disagree with my man Spike on one point: Beneath the silliness, I've never felt Perry's stuff was undignified. Simply making people laugh does not make one a buffoon. And Perry's foolery is always offset by a certain degree of wisdom. I do think Perry's work is trapped, however, in clichés, theatric fallacies and rudimentary narrative archs that are downright insulting to me as a thinking adult. I want to see him improve, because I suspect he can give us so much more sophistication.
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and that post, right there, speaks volumes fairness and truth to me.
I didn't know Spike called him a buffoon and a stepin fetchit. Well...the former is true in terms of his Madea character.
While I applaud him for standing up to Spike Lee and for building his movie empire, albeit an empire based on a limited body of work, he can't be so blind as to see Spike's point. How many damn Madea movies can Tyler make before the character becomes unlikeable and before the audience rebels?
No doubt Spike is likely jealous of Tyler's success (there isn't a Spike Lee movie studio to my knowledge) but it's a shame that these two can't come together and collaborate and learn from one another. Clearly Spike is missing something because he hasn't had a hit in I don't know how long and clearly Tyler is limiting himself to a certain type of audience within the black movie going public and short changing himself on industry respect. Of course the latter might not matter much but if one is to complain about why more black actors are not acknowledged come Oscar time, well...
How about Spike and Tyler do a film called:
Madea DOES THE RIGHT THING!
It can be about her early days as an integral part of the civil rights movement; back when she and Rosa Parks were best buds.
Nur you didn't say that.
Spike and Tyler gonna be best friends after all the smoke clears, in about a year or two.
I tried watching "Why did i get married ii" after hearing some interesting things about it...and found to be one of the worst written, worst directed, poorly put together pieces of trash I've ever had to watch. The filming/cinematography was atrocious!
And I wanted to see "for colored girls" but after that mess, I don't know if I can bring myself to.
At least Spike Lee knows what the hell he's doing behind the camera, because Tyler Perry sure doesn't.
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I put $5 dolla on Spike being the bottom. Tyler aint neva gonna let nobody ride him again...not if Madea have anything to say about it. I'm gonna call that script Biker Boyz II. Guest starring Chippy D.
