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Reply #30 posted 04/21/11 10:37am

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vainandy said:

Cerebus said:

How many people smoke herb in public and blow it in another persons face without asking?

They would if it weren't illegal.

The weed that is legal to buy in California is for personal home use. Its not legal to smoke it in your car, in public, in a club, etc. I know of no place on Earth (even in Amsterdam) where it is legal to smoke in public. Yet with cigarettes, which we no know are filled with cancer causing chemical, its legal to do so.

And let me clarify, I'm not Mary Poppins. lol I'm not even bitching about people smoking. I just don't think the two are comparable at this point in time.

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Reply #31 posted 04/21/11 10:59am

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Cerebus said:

vainandy said:

They would if it weren't illegal.

The weed that is legal to buy in California is for personal home use. Its not legal to smoke it in your car, in public, in a club, etc. I know of no place on Earth (even in Amsterdam) where it is legal to smoke in public. Yet with cigarettes, which we no know are filled with cancer causing chemical, its legal to do so.

And let me clarify, I'm not Mary Poppins. lol I'm not even bitching about people smoking. I just don't think the two are comparable at this point in time.

That's what I'm saying. The only reason they aren't smoking all out in public like cigarette smokers do is because they would be arrested if they did. If it weren't illegal, they would be lighting up every place that cigarette smokers light up.

I could care less about weed smoking. Actually, I think it should be legal but it's rediculous for people that smoke weed to bitch and moan about cigarette smokers because smoke is smoke regardless of where it's coming from. The only reason they bitch and moan about cigarette smokers these days is because it's the "in" thing to do these days. If they were so worried about the effects of smoke, they wouldn't be smoking anything their damn self. I just can't stand hypocrits. It's bad enough having to fight off these damn nonsmokers who weren't satisfied with limiting smoking to a smoking section, they had to keep on until you couldn't smoke inside a public place period. And now the motherfuckers don't even want you to be able to smoke outside either. It's obvious they are more concerned with control rather than health. But to listen to a damn weed smoker bitch and moan about a cigarette when they are smoking something their damn self, oh hell naw!

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Reply #32 posted 04/21/11 1:31pm

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vainandy said:

Cerebus said:

The weed that is legal to buy in California is for personal home use. Its not legal to smoke it in your car, in public, in a club, etc. I know of no place on Earth (even in Amsterdam) where it is legal to smoke in public. Yet with cigarettes, which we no know are filled with cancer causing chemical, its legal to do so.

And let me clarify, I'm not Mary Poppins. lol I'm not even bitching about people smoking. I just don't think the two are comparable at this point in time.

That's what I'm saying. The only reason they aren't smoking all out in public like cigarette smokers do is because they would be arrested if they did. If it weren't illegal, they would be lighting up every place that cigarette smokers light up.

I could care less about weed smoking. Actually, I think it should be legal but it's rediculous for people that smoke weed to bitch and moan about cigarette smokers because smoke is smoke regardless of where it's coming from. The only reason they bitch and moan about cigarette smokers these days is because it's the "in" thing to do these days. If they were so worried about the effects of smoke, they wouldn't be smoking anything their damn self. I just can't stand hypocrits. It's bad enough having to fight off these damn nonsmokers who weren't satisfied with limiting smoking to a smoking section, they had to keep on until you couldn't smoke inside a public place period. And now the motherfuckers don't even want you to be able to smoke outside either. It's obvious they are more concerned with control rather than health. But to listen to a damn weed smoker bitch and moan about a cigarette when they are smoking something their damn self, oh hell naw!

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We are going to have to agree to disagree, I think, because I just can't compare the two. Pretty sure both of us are basing a lot of this on personal feelings anyway. Such as, I wouldn't care if I was sitting at an outdoor table eating some food and I smelled some weed. But if I smell some cigarette smoke in the same place it pisses me off. The vast amount of cigarette smoke I was around (like, my hair smelled for days and I couldn't get it out of my clothes) is a large part of what drove me out of clubs.

Anyway, the comparison, I just don't think its the same thing at all. It will never be legal to smoke weed in public. It is legal to smoke cigarettes in public. But its rude to assume that somebody wants to share your cigarette with you. And I STRONGLY felt that way when I was a smoker.

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Reply #33 posted 04/21/11 1:37pm

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Cerebus said:

vainandy said:

That's what I'm saying. The only reason they aren't smoking all out in public like cigarette smokers do is because they would be arrested if they did. If it weren't illegal, they would be lighting up every place that cigarette smokers light up.

I could care less about weed smoking. Actually, I think it should be legal but it's rediculous for people that smoke weed to bitch and moan about cigarette smokers because smoke is smoke regardless of where it's coming from. The only reason they bitch and moan about cigarette smokers these days is because it's the "in" thing to do these days. If they were so worried about the effects of smoke, they wouldn't be smoking anything their damn self. I just can't stand hypocrits. It's bad enough having to fight off these damn nonsmokers who weren't satisfied with limiting smoking to a smoking section, they had to keep on until you couldn't smoke inside a public place period. And now the motherfuckers don't even want you to be able to smoke outside either. It's obvious they are more concerned with control rather than health. But to listen to a damn weed smoker bitch and moan about a cigarette when they are smoking something their damn self, oh hell naw!

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We are going to have to agree to disagree, I think, because I just can't compare the two. Pretty sure both of us are basing a lot of this on personal feelings anyway. Such as, I wouldn't care if I was sitting at an outdoor table eating some food and I smelled some weed. But if I smell some cigarette smoke in the same place it pisses me off. The vast amount of cigarette smoke I was around (like, my hair smelled for days and I couldn't get it out of my clothes) is a large part of what drove me out of clubs.

Anyway, the comparison, I just don't think its the same thing at all. It will never be legal to smoke weed in public. It is legal to smoke cigarettes in public. But its rude to assume that somebody wants to share your cigarette with you. And I STRONGLY felt that way when I was a smoker.

I just quit smoking (for the final fucking time, god damn it) this year and I was always a conscientious smoker. I hated smoking around non-smokers because I felt it was obtrusive. Why should I shove my stinky vapors into their face? And it is stinky. And gross. And filled with toxins.

Weed is not filled with toxins. To most people I know, smokers and nonsmokers alike, the smell of weed is much more pleasant (read: less offensive) than the "stink" of cigarettes. Cigarettes smell like burning chemicals/paper/plants, which is just what it is. Weed doesn't smell like any of that. Not to me, anyway.

Furthermore, I've said it once (when NDRU made a comment about tar effects from weed) and I will say it again: Even if weed is legal to smoke in public, you won't be seeing people smoke with the fierceness they do cigarettes. Why? Cigarettes are a vice. They are habit forming and perilously addictive. Cannabis isn't. Additionally, Cannabis will have your ass laid out on the floor before you have the chance to say, "Do you think I smoked too much?"

In America, its average to smoke a cigarette an hour. No one will be smoking a joint an hour, its simply impossible to do. You will, I repeat WILL, knock yourself out before the morning is over. That is one of the great things about cannabis, to me. You can't overdose on it, it's not habit forming, and if you tried to abuse it it would just shut you down and put you into sleep mode.

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Reply #34 posted 04/21/11 2:12pm

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vainandy said:

Cerebus said:

How many people smoke herb in public and blow it in another persons face without asking?

They would if it weren't illegal.

Objection. Speculative.

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Reply #35 posted 04/21/11 5:52pm

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I looooove the way marijuana smells and absolutely detest cigarrette smoke....We watched "Botony of Desire" a great documentary on the intelligence of plants; there is a section on marijuana...check it out of you have not already (or read the book). It's really amazing.

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Reply #36 posted 04/22/11 7:47am

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Cerebus said:

vainandy said:

That's what I'm saying. The only reason they aren't smoking all out in public like cigarette smokers do is because they would be arrested if they did. If it weren't illegal, they would be lighting up every place that cigarette smokers light up.

I could care less about weed smoking. Actually, I think it should be legal but it's rediculous for people that smoke weed to bitch and moan about cigarette smokers because smoke is smoke regardless of where it's coming from. The only reason they bitch and moan about cigarette smokers these days is because it's the "in" thing to do these days. If they were so worried about the effects of smoke, they wouldn't be smoking anything their damn self. I just can't stand hypocrits. It's bad enough having to fight off these damn nonsmokers who weren't satisfied with limiting smoking to a smoking section, they had to keep on until you couldn't smoke inside a public place period. And now the motherfuckers don't even want you to be able to smoke outside either. It's obvious they are more concerned with control rather than health. But to listen to a damn weed smoker bitch and moan about a cigarette when they are smoking something their damn self, oh hell naw!

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[Edited 4/21/11 11:01am]

We are going to have to agree to disagree, I think, because I just can't compare the two. Pretty sure both of us are basing a lot of this on personal feelings anyway. Such as, I wouldn't care if I was sitting at an outdoor table eating some food and I smelled some weed. But if I smell some cigarette smoke in the same place it pisses me off. The vast amount of cigarette smoke I was around (like, my hair smelled for days and I couldn't get it out of my clothes) is a large part of what drove me out of clubs.

Anyway, the comparison, I just don't think its the same thing at all. It will never be legal to smoke weed in public. It is legal to smoke cigarettes in public. But its rude to assume that somebody wants to share your cigarette with you. And I STRONGLY felt that way when I was a smoker.

I think weed smells much worse than cigarettes because it has a distinctive smell. You would think it smells better because you like it just like I think a cigarette smells good because I like it. But as a smoker, even I will tell you that cigar smoke is the absolute worst. However, I have absolutely no right so ever to complain about it because I smoke something myself and I would be a hypocrit if I complained. If I were to complain about the smell of a cigar or even the smell of weed, it would be like saying...."I want to do what I want to do but I don't want you to do what you want to do".

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Reply #37 posted 04/22/11 7:54am

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I love the smell of cigars! cloud9

And pipe tobacco.

Hate the smell of cigarettes.

I'm actually neutral to the smell of weed. It's just acrid, not necessarily pleasant or unpleasant to me. The smell seems to be a lot less pervasive than cigarette smoke, though. Doesn't permeate everything and make everyone around it stink the way cigs can.

I do completely agree that it's highly subjective, of course.

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Reply #38 posted 04/22/11 8:30am

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PunkMistress said:

I love the smell of cigars! cloud9

And pipe tobacco.

Hate the smell of cigarettes.

I'm actually neutral to the smell of weed. It's just acrid, not necessarily pleasant or unpleasant to me. The smell seems to be a lot less pervasive than cigarette smoke, though. Doesn't permeate everything and make everyone around it stink the way cigs can.

I do completely agree that it's highly subjective, of course.

It just depends on what type of cigar it is. Those little skinny ones like Black and Mild and those Cherry Blend ones smell pretty good. But when you get into the big fat ones, those things can be really smelly. Although, my grandfather used to smoke some fat ones that didn't smell so bad so I guess it just depends on what brand the cigar is.

The only time I ever told someone to put a cigar out was when I worked in a convenience store in the 1990s. This was before all the "No Smoking" bans and we could smoke in the store. However, the owners were always going to take the customers side even when the customer was wrong, which used to really piss me off (and no I'm not talking about smoking). Knowing how a lot of the nonsmoking customers were who would just love for any excuse to complain about smoke, I put a stop to one of my coworkers smoking a cigar. He was a young guy and cigars were the latest fad with the young people during that time, moreso than cigarettes. He was a cigarette smoker also but the damn fool would light up one of those big ass fat cigars so he could look like the "in crowd" of his age. I was fine with that but I noticed that his fat ass cigar would have the entire store in a cloud of smoke. I mean, it looked like the stage of a rock concert with a fog machine going. You could barely see through it. Knowing how those nonsmokers would compain about a little old cigarette, just imagine if they came in and couldn't even see through that big ass cloud of smoke that guy's cigar was making. I told him to put that motherfucker out because when they complain to the point that it becomes no smoking whatsoever in the store, then I was going to quit and if I quit, someone who had been there for years and was one of the few people they had working for them that they could trust would not steal (an honest person in the convenience store business is rare), then they would immediately fire his ass who had only worked there a few weeks. I be damned if that little motherfucker was going to fuck my smoking priveleges up so he could look "cool" in front of his friends. lol

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Reply #39 posted 04/22/11 9:40am

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vainandy said:

PunkMistress said:

I love the smell of cigars! cloud9

And pipe tobacco.

Hate the smell of cigarettes.

I'm actually neutral to the smell of weed. It's just acrid, not necessarily pleasant or unpleasant to me. The smell seems to be a lot less pervasive than cigarette smoke, though. Doesn't permeate everything and make everyone around it stink the way cigs can.

I do completely agree that it's highly subjective, of course.

It just depends on what type of cigar it is. Those little skinny ones like Black and Mild and those Cherry Blend ones smell pretty good. But when you get into the big fat ones, those things can be really smelly. Although, my grandfather used to smoke some fat ones that didn't smell so bad so I guess it just depends on what brand the cigar is.

The only time I ever told someone to put a cigar out was when I worked in a convenience store in the 1990s. This was before all the "No Smoking" bans and we could smoke in the store. However, the owners were always going to take the customers side even when the customer was wrong, which used to really piss me off (and no I'm not talking about smoking). Knowing how a lot of the nonsmoking customers were who would just love for any excuse to complain about smoke, I put a stop to one of my coworkers smoking a cigar. He was a young guy and cigars were the latest fad with the young people during that time, moreso than cigarettes. He was a cigarette smoker also but the damn fool would light up one of those big ass fat cigars so he could look like the "in crowd" of his age. I was fine with that but I noticed that his fat ass cigar would have the entire store in a cloud of smoke. I mean, it looked like the stage of a rock concert with a fog machine going. You could barely see through it. Knowing how those nonsmokers would compain about a little old cigarette, just imagine if they came in and couldn't even see through that big ass cloud of smoke that guy's cigar was making. I told him to put that motherfucker out because when they complain to the point that it becomes no smoking whatsoever in the store, then I was going to quit and if I quit, someone who had been there for years and was one of the few people they had working for them that they could trust would not steal (an honest person in the convenience store business is rare), then they would immediately fire his ass who had only worked there a few weeks. I be damned if that little motherfucker was going to fuck my smoking priveleges up so he could look "cool" in front of his friends. lol

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Can you come to Florida and drink with me sometime? smile

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Reply #40 posted 04/22/11 9:45am

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PunkMistress said:

vainandy said:

It just depends on what type of cigar it is. Those little skinny ones like Black and Mild and those Cherry Blend ones smell pretty good. But when you get into the big fat ones, those things can be really smelly. Although, my grandfather used to smoke some fat ones that didn't smell so bad so I guess it just depends on what brand the cigar is.

The only time I ever told someone to put a cigar out was when I worked in a convenience store in the 1990s. This was before all the "No Smoking" bans and we could smoke in the store. However, the owners were always going to take the customers side even when the customer was wrong, which used to really piss me off (and no I'm not talking about smoking). Knowing how a lot of the nonsmoking customers were who would just love for any excuse to complain about smoke, I put a stop to one of my coworkers smoking a cigar. He was a young guy and cigars were the latest fad with the young people during that time, moreso than cigarettes. He was a cigarette smoker also but the damn fool would light up one of those big ass fat cigars so he could look like the "in crowd" of his age. I was fine with that but I noticed that his fat ass cigar would have the entire store in a cloud of smoke. I mean, it looked like the stage of a rock concert with a fog machine going. You could barely see through it. Knowing how those nonsmokers would compain about a little old cigarette, just imagine if they came in and couldn't even see through that big ass cloud of smoke that guy's cigar was making. I told him to put that motherfucker out because when they complain to the point that it becomes no smoking whatsoever in the store, then I was going to quit and if I quit, someone who had been there for years and was one of the few people they had working for them that they could trust would not steal (an honest person in the convenience store business is rare), then they would immediately fire his ass who had only worked there a few weeks. I be damned if that little motherfucker was going to fuck my smoking priveleges up so he could look "cool" in front of his friends. lol

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Can you come to Florida and drink with me sometime? smile

I got barely enough money to pay my rent, let alone go to Florida but when it comes to drinking, honey I could drink your ass under the table. And lord knows we could talk plenty of shit, I can talk some big time shit when I'm drinking. lol

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Reply #41 posted 04/22/11 12:30pm

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vainandy said:

PunkMistress said:

Can you come to Florida and drink with me sometime? smile

I got barely enough money to pay my rent, let alone go to Florida but when it comes to drinking, honey I could drink your ass under the table. And lord knows we could talk plenty of shit, I can talk some big time shit when I'm drinking. lol

omg, invite gascot and then die from the hilarity.



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Reply #42 posted 04/22/11 12:58pm

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JerseyKRS said:

vainandy said:

I got barely enough money to pay my rent, let alone go to Florida but when it comes to drinking, honey I could drink your ass under the table. And lord knows we could talk plenty of shit, I can talk some big time shit when I'm drinking. lol

omg, invite gascot and then die from the hilarity.

That level of side-splitting in stereo would send my ass to the hospital.

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Reply #43 posted 04/22/11 1:04pm

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Going to KK

*heavy breathing*

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