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SHAVING HAIR (discussion for both men and women)

Body hair, facial hair, hair on our head... Why do we humans shave our hair? When and why did we start doing this?

[Edited 4/12/11 14:17pm]

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Reply #1 posted 04/12/11 1:55pm

NDRU

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I'm sure I could wiki this or something, but I always figured women started shaving their legs when nylon was in shortage during WWII and they could not wear stockings

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Reply #2 posted 04/12/11 2:12pm

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Because a big vagina bush is prickly and unattractive. nod

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Reply #3 posted 04/12/11 2:15pm

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NDRU said:

I'm sure I could wiki this or something, but I always figured women started shaving their legs when nylon was in shortage during WWII and they could not wear stockings

Not quite, but a good guess, I think! Here's what I found:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/625/who-decided-women-should-shave-their-legs-and-underarms

Dear Cecil:

Why do women shave their legs and underarms? When did this custom begin? If it's for hygienic reasons, why don't men to it too? Is it all a big conspiracy by the razor companies? I've heard some European women don't shave. Please clarify this mystery.

Dear A.:

I knew if I procrastinated long enough on this often-asked question somebody would eventually do the legwork for me. Sure enough, Pete Cook of Chicago has sent me a 1982 article from the Journal of American Culture by Christine Hope bearing the grand title "Caucasian Female Body Hair and American Culture."

The gist of the article is that U.S. women were browbeaten into shaving underarm hair by a sustained marketing assault that began in 1915. (Leg hair came later.) The aim of what Hope calls the Great Underarm Campaign was to inform American womanhood of a problem that till then it didn't know it had, namely unsightly underarm hair.

To be sure, women had been concerned about the appearance of their hair since time immemorial, but (sensibly) only the stuff you could see. Prior to World War I this meant scalp and, for an unlucky few, facial hair. Around 1915, however, sleeveless dresses became popular, opening up a whole new field of female vulnerability for marketers to exploit.

According to Hope, the underarm campaign began in May, 1915, in Harper's Bazaar, a magazine aimed at the upper crust. The first ad "featured a waist-up photograph of a young woman who appears to be dressed in a slip with a toga-like outfit covering one shoulder. Her arms are arched over her head revealing perfectly clear armpits. The first part of the ad read 'Summer Dress and Modern Dancing combine to make necessary the removal of objectionable hair.'"

Within three months, Cook tells us, the once-shocking term "underarm" was being used. A few ads mentioned hygiene as a motive for getting rid of hair, but most appealed strictly to the ancient yearning to be hip. "The Woman of Fashion says the underarm must be as smooth as the face," read a typical pitch.

The budding obsession with underarm hair drifted down to the proles fairly slowly, roughly matching the widening popularity of sheer and sleeveless dresses. Antiarm hair ads began appearing in middlebrow McCall's in 1917. Women's razors and depilatories didn't show up in the Sears Roebuck catalog until 1922, the same year the company began offering dresses with sheer sleeves. By then the underarm battle was largely won. Advertisers no longer felt compelled to explain the need for their products but could concentrate simply on distinguishing themselves from their competitors.

The anti-leg hair campaign was more fitful. The volume of leg ads never reached the proportions of the underarm campaign. Women were apparently more ambivalent about calling attention to the lower half of their anatomy, perhaps out of fear that doing so would give the male of the species ideas in a way that naked underarms didn't.

Besides, there wasn't much practical need for shaved legs. After rising in the 1920s, hemlines dropped in the 30s and many women were content to leave their leg hair alone. Still, some advertisers as well as an increasing number of fashion and beauty writers harped on the idea that female leg hair was a curse.

Though Hope doesn't say so, what may have put the issue over the top was the famous WWII pinup of Betty Grable displaying her awesome gams. Showing off one's legs became a patriotic act. That plus shorter skirts and sheer stockings, which looked dorky with leg hair beneath, made the anti-hair pitch an easy sell.

Some argue that there's more to this than short skirts and sleeveless dresses. Cecil's colleague Marg Meikle (Dear Answer Lady, 1992) notes that Greek statues of women in antiquity had no pubic hair, suggesting that hairlessness was some sort of ideal of feminine beauty embedded in Western culture. If so, a lot of Western culture never got the message. Greek women today (and Mediterranean women generally) don't shave their hair. The practice has been confined largely to English-speaking women of North America and Great Britain, although one hears it's slowly spreading elsewhere.

So what's the deal with Anglo-Saxons? Some lingering vestige of Victorian prudery? Good question, but what with world unrest, the economic crisis, and the little researchers having missed their naps, not high on Cecil's priority list. Here's hoping some all-but-thesis Ph.D. candidate will pick up the trail.

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Reply #4 posted 04/12/11 2:25pm

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Interesting topic.... old school teaching in my culture says that only whores shave.

But now new school logic pitches that you're gross is you don't shave body hair.... shrug

I always liked the hair in my pits and crotch, always thought it was pretty. But I stay bald in both areas.

I only shave my legs in the summer, only from the chins down only because those hairs are black and noticable.

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Reply #5 posted 04/12/11 2:48pm

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Acrylic said:

Because a big vagina bush is prickly and unattractive. nod

but when that hair grows back its terrible and itchy

the pussy fiveOclock shadow has to be a creation of the devil.

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Reply #6 posted 04/12/11 2:50pm

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when eye got divorced my wife told me that without her id go bold and get fat and no woman would want me.so eye shaved my head!!!!best thing eye ever did!eye also shave down below love it nice & smooth,plus makes a nice cock look even nicer.

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Reply #7 posted 04/12/11 2:52pm

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Acrylic said:

Because a big vagina bush is prickly and unattractive. nod

eye love the 70s look, very nice.

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Reply #8 posted 04/12/11 2:53pm

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davetherave6767 said:

when eye got divorced my wife told me that without her id go bold and get fat and no woman would want me.so eye shaved my head!!!!best thing eye ever did!eye also shave down below love it nice & smooth,plus makes a nice cock look even nicer.

but when that ass hair grows back its gonna be trouble

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Reply #9 posted 04/12/11 2:59pm

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therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Body hair, facial hair, hair on our head... Why do we humans shave our hair? When and why did we start doing this?

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When we realized that sweat, funk, foliculitus, 6 inch arm pit hair, and spotty beards were not a good look. Oh and mustaches on women disbelief Oh and long ass nose hairs and ear hairs on men disbelief Oh and all that ass hair on men disbelief Oh and all that straight hair on a man's ass that looks like clumps of spider legs when it gets wet barf

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Reply #10 posted 04/12/11 3:13pm

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formallypickles said:

davetherave6767 said:

when eye got divorced my wife told me that without her id go bold and get fat and no woman would want me.so eye shaved my head!!!!best thing eye ever did!eye also shave down below love it nice & smooth,plus makes a nice cock look even nicer.

but when that ass hair grows back its gonna be trouble

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im down there alot it never gets out of control.

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Reply #11 posted 04/12/11 4:28pm

BlackAdder7

Acrylic said:

Because a big vagina bush is prickly and unattractive. nod

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Reply #12 posted 04/12/11 4:35pm

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Acrylic said:

Because a big vagina bush is prickly and unattractive. nod

Who said so? lol

Fan of 'hairy valleys' here!

I hate totally-shaved vagina... Makes me feel like a paedophile... Not a bush either, I have enough dental floss in my bathroom, thank you..

Just some hair, trimmed down, thats oerfect... We were made with hait @ that place, there's a reason 4 it horny

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Reply #13 posted 04/13/11 12:09am

Lisa10

Because hair harbours bacteria and makes you smell.

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Reply #14 posted 04/14/11 7:30am

purpledoveuk

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Body hair, facial hair, hair on our head... Why do we humans shave our hair? When and why did we start doing this?

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Who knows when originally (it's like giving flowers...is that a Neanderthal gesture).

But I shave my head short because it looks better than the obviously hin patches I have and I shave my face to a stubble length and let it grow for 3 days because any longer and I look like a tramp (beard and no head hair = bad look) and clean shaven I look like I'm ill
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Reply #15 posted 04/14/11 7:48am

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Men either shaving or trimming their beards is just good grooming. Always keep the mustache though because a man just doesn't look like a man without one.

Men shave and trim their dicks so they can look like children and attract pedophiles.

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Reply #16 posted 04/14/11 7:56am

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therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Body hair, facial hair, hair on our head... Why do we humans shave our hair? When and why did we start doing this?

[Edited 4/12/11 14:17pm]

I can explain why. It's all about increasing good hygiene.

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Reply #17 posted 04/14/11 8:02am

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Acrylic said:

Because a big vagina bush is prickly and unattractive. nod

A hairy vagina is NOT a big sell like it was before 1985. These days, men AND women like to see what they're dealing with before oral sex.

And besides, no woman like hair between her teeth after going down on a man OR another woman (my apologies for being too graphic!!!).

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Reply #18 posted 04/14/11 8:11am

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The cruelest twist of fate for men is that as we age, we tend to LOSE hair on the top of our heads (where we want it) but GAIN hair on our backs, arms, nose, ears, etc (where we don't want).

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Reply #19 posted 04/14/11 8:16am

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Acrylic said:

Because a big vagina bush is prickly and unattractive. nod

Mmm, not all the time but, I prefer my afro (on my head big), my goatee short and neat and everywhere else low low low ... LoL

Honestly, I have to say, it depends on my mood for 'the bush' ... blushing

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Reply #20 posted 04/14/11 8:44am

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I always get razor burn down there : (. I do it anyway, baby powder seems to work. But I need something more effective

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Reply #21 posted 04/14/11 8:49am

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InternationalLover82 said:

I always get razor burn down there : (. I do it anyway, baby powder seems to work. But I need something more effective

try using hair conditioner its helps soften it up

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Reply #22 posted 04/14/11 8:52am

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TonyVanDam said:

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Body hair, facial hair, hair on our head... Why do we humans shave our hair? When and why did we start doing this?

[Edited 4/12/11 14:17pm]

I can explain why. It's all about increasing good hygiene.

oh brother, hair helps from dangerous bacteria get in rolleyes lol

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Reply #23 posted 04/14/11 9:02am

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formallypickles said:

InternationalLover82 said:

I always get razor burn down there : (. I do it anyway, baby powder seems to work. But I need something more effective

try using hair conditioner its helps soften it up

Use it instead of shaving cream?

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Reply #24 posted 04/14/11 9:32am

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InternationalLover82 said:

formallypickles said:

try using hair conditioner its helps soften it up

Use it instead of shaving cream?

yep or use both

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Reply #25 posted 04/14/11 9:57am

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I use those waxing strip things to be honest. It takes everything off easily, and makes it grow back slower. Plus everything looks and works better when shaven or trimmed low. I dont like dingle berrys or my deodorant not working right. Its either those things or trimming low, never ever do I shave. Shaving SUCKS, takes too long, gives you rashes or cuts w/e and makes your hair all ingrown or thick and hard to work with. That stuff works good for women because they like to stay smooth, shaving doesnt mix well with men.

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Reply #26 posted 04/14/11 12:52pm

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I think only straight guys go totally bald down there cause women dont like flossing

I used to shave it all off when I was confused and slept with girls. they preferred it that way.

I like shaved balls though, easier to play with other than that nicely trimmed crotch hair is great..blond or ginger pubic hair is not a good look for men tho, better go bald

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Reply #27 posted 04/14/11 1:56pm

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LightOfArt said:

I think only straight guys go totally bald down there cause women dont like flossing

I used to shave it all off when I was confused and slept with girls. they preferred it that way.

I like shaved balls though, easier to play with other than that nicely trimmed crotch hair is great..blond or ginger pubic hair is not a good look for men tho, better go bald

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Your avatar is scary eek . Where's it from? lol
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Reply #28 posted 04/14/11 2:01pm

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vainandy said:

Men either shaving or trimming their beards is just good grooming. Always keep the mustache though because a man just doesn't look like a man without one.

Men shave and trim their dicks so they can look like children and attract pedophiles.

shit!!! ive been found out!!!

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Reply #29 posted 04/14/11 2:03pm

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InternationalLover82 said:

LightOfArt said:

I think only straight guys go totally bald down there cause women dont like flossing

I used to shave it all off when I was confused and slept with girls. they preferred it that way.

I like shaved balls though, easier to play with other than that nicely trimmed crotch hair is great..blond or ginger pubic hair is not a good look for men tho, better go bald

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Your avatar is scary eek . Where's it from? lol

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