SagsWay2low said:

paintedlady said:

Really? Well, no wonder then.

Well, this isn't that bad though. I mean, Ace could have posted an "Is Prince gay" thread in music & more. That shit gets a few spirited arguments.

You're a bully.

2elijah said:

SagsWay2low said:

I agree that many female atheletes are built like that. My statement wasn't meant to be a generalized view of female, black, nor athletic women though. Just her. She's u-g-l-y without an alibi.

You are so silly. Regardless of your opinion of her looks...she's a successful athlete.

Again, I'm in complete agreement.

It's kind of like Prince. I don't get why chicks dig him.

He looks like a Spice Girl on hormone therapy.

Or Jennifer Anniston. come on! Somebody slapped a wig on a male underwear model.

I'm all for broadening our views of what is sexy, but sometimes it's just too much...just too much.

StillGotIt said:

2elijah said:

Tsk..tsk..ladies...ask yourself is this thread worth fussing with each other? Actually no. You both made good points and expressed your true feelings, but I don't think it's worth a catfight. I like both of you so stop now, so I don't have to choose between the two. Don't make me choose.... Just kidding. <---to both of you.

well....since 2elijah is saying we have to behave....I'll behave. :hugs: now lets kiss and make up

StillGotIt said:

2elijah said:

Tsk..tsk..ladies...ask yourself is this thread worth fussing with each other? Actually no. You both made good points and expressed your true feelings, but I don't think it's worth a catfight. I like both of you so stop now, so I don't have to choose between the two. Don't make me choose.... Just kidding. <---to both of you.

well....since 2elijah is saying we have to behave....I'll behave. :hugs: now lets kiss and make up

Aww, now that wasn't bad now was it? It's a sensitive topic for some, because I guess many Black women just get tired of feeling like a science project and society overall, hasn't always been nice to us over the years, and in general, many Black women take a lot of hateful sh*t from society, and often times the defense mechanism comes out, because..... we're just damn tired of it and will not take it anymore damnit!!... Glad I got that out...(j/k), but yes, often times we do get laid out like a science project from many within society over certain isssues. It's all good though, we learned many survival and strength tactics from those before us. We'll be just fine.

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StillGotIt said:

black women are not just sensitive about our hair.....historically a lot of shit has been done that establishes some attitudes towards women of african descent and their hair. It is why videos like this one was necessary:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/enpFde5rgmw[/youtube]

As an Asian male, I get that.

I mean, we've got moderators like luv4u actually posting on one of those "Asian Male" tribute threads off color comments about small penises, without any retribution whatsoever.

And even today, in America, Asian males still are rarely portrayed as viable sexual partners. Someone once told me in America Black women and Asian men have been regulated to the bottom of the desirability scale, so when there are 'scales' and stuff like that, combating stereotypes is like climbing a mountain.

So I get the sensitivity. But, if we're looking for race baiters, Ace isn't our man.

formallypickles said:

StillGotIt said:

well....since 2elijah is saying we have to behave....I'll behave. :hugs: now lets kiss and make up

Fauxie said:

SagsWay2low said:

Well, this isn't that bad though. I mean, Ace could have posted an "Is Prince gay" thread in music & more. That shit gets a few spirited arguments.

You're a bully.

..and I hate women, apparently.

I love you prince.org, don't ever change

wait. why the fuck is there hugging now?

Lawd, now I have to read these posts.

people get tired of explaining themselves.

Its crazy really, of course you don't relate... but if you were asked ignorant questions all the time and felt you had to "teach" people who claim to be so "understanding" and "culturally aware"... its rude. But many women extend themselves. But why should we have to teach anybody anything?

Its the sense of entitlement that gets tiresome.....

"explain youself to me"

"why is your hair like that?"

"why is your skin like that?"

"why do you think that way?"

why do black women have to cater to white men's fascinations? Its creepy in a sorted way, we shouldn't be forced to explain our existence to white men period.

I did actually have a positive attitude, but some have a poor attitude about women who choose not to explain themselves and right them off as bitches or moody. Women here shouldn't be expected to explain anything about themselves like that

Hair in general is OK, but like I said before... its a slippery slope when you make it about race.

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SagsWay2low said:

wait. why the fuck is there hugging now?

Lawd, now I have to read these posts.

naw....not worth going back to figure it out. its not quite decipherable....

SagsWay2low said:

And even today, in America, Asian males still are rarely portrayed as viable sexual partners. Someone once told me in America Black women and Asian men have been regulated to the bottom of the desirability scale, so when there are 'scales' and stuff like that, combating stereotypes is like climbing a mountain.

I for one think black woman are beautiful. So, that belief that black women are undesirable may be held by some, but not by every one. Did you her that my fine sisters?

StillGotIt said:

formallypickles said:

Aww.. Now see ladies, that wasn't so hard now was it? That's what it's all about, unity, despite our opinions.

SagsWay2low said:

2elijah said:

You are so silly. Regardless of your opinion of her looks...she's a successful athlete.

Again, I'm in complete agreement.

It's kind of like Prince. I don't get why chicks dig him.

He looks like a Spice Girl on hormone therapy.

Or Jennifer Anniston. come on! Somebody slapped a wig on a male underwear model.

I'm all for broadening our views of what is sexy, but sometimes it's just too much...just too much.

Like Gwyneth Paltrow. I get on some level that she's attractive, but she has zero sex appeal. She looks like she never has sex. If by some regrettable turn of events I were her husband I'd tell her to get naked, then turn my back on her and wank over some porn. I'd warn her strongly about encroaching into my eyeline with her horrid, sexless frame.

SagsWay2low said:

Fauxie said:

You're a bully.

..and I hate women, apparently.

I love you prince.org, don't ever change

Atleast your still popular and so you won't get mookied.... so it is what it is.

Fauxie said:

SagsWay2low said:

Well, this isn't that bad though. I mean, Ace could have posted an "Is Prince gay" thread in music & more. That shit gets a few spirited arguments.

You're a bully.

awww hell... you mean you meant saggy pants and not me? crap... now I have to edit my post

paintedlady said:

Fauxie said:

It's pathetic, I think.

That's a really fucked up thing to say... really.

Calling someone pathetic because people get tired of explaining themselves is ridiculous.

Its crazy really, of course you don't relate... but if you were asked ignorant questions all the time and felt you had to "teach" people who claim to be so "understanding" and "culturally aware"... its rude. But many women extend themselves. But why should we have to teach anybody anything?

Its the sense of entitlement that gets tiresome.....

"explain youself to me"

"why is your hair like that?"

"why is your skin like that?"

"why do you think that way?"

why do black women have to cater to white men's fascinations? Its creepy in a sorted way, we shouldn't be forced to explain our existence to white men period.

I did actually have a positive attitude, but some have a poor attitude about women who choose not to explain themselves and right them off as bitches or moody. Women here shouldn't be expected to explain anything about themselves like that

Hair in general is OK, but like I said before... its a slippery slope when you make it about race.

It's pathetic because I don't think this thread, nor Ace himself and his intentions, comes anywhere close to your exaggerated appraisal of what's going on here. He just asked black women about their hair. Don't answer his questions if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you to explain anything. He just asked.

paintedlady said:

SagsWay2low said:

..and I hate women, apparently.

I love you prince.org, don't ever change

Atleast your still popular and so you won't get mookied.... so it is what it is.

I missed that entire boat

I'm getting mookied right the hell now in the site discussion forum.

SagsWay2low said:

2elijah said:

You are so silly. Regardless of your opinion of her looks...she's a successful athlete.

Again, I'm in complete agreement.

It's kind of like Prince. I don't get why chicks dig him.

He looks like a Spice Girl on hormone therapy.

Or Jennifer Anniston. come on! Somebody slapped a wig on a male underwear model.

I'm all for broadening our views of what is sexy, but sometimes it's just too much...just too much.

I'm trying real hard not to laugh at your comment, but somehow I can't help it. (Lawd please forgive me..).

paintedlady said:

SagsWay2low said:

..and I hate women, apparently.

I love you prince.org, don't ever change

Atleast your still popular and so you won't get mookied.... so it is what it is.

Only people who go 'mookie' get 'mookied', surely.

I plan to never get my mook on.

SagsWay2low's idea of sexy...

[img:$uid]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af110/nbdeadgirl/GLEE/Lauren/tumblr_lgqj4vV7jB1qbjbzu.gif[/img:$uid]

[Edited 4/8/11 22:31pm]

SagsWay2low said:

paintedlady said:

Atleast your still popular and so you won't get mookied.... so it is what it is.

I missed that entire boat

I'm getting mookied right the hell now in the site discussion forum.

That's because you have 10,000 usernames. I'm going to call you "Mr. Sybil" for now on because of that. Funny thing is whenever you create another username, it's not hard to figure out who you are.

Fauxie said:

paintedlady said:

That's a really fucked up thing to say... really.

Calling someone pathetic because people get tired of explaining themselves is ridiculous.

Its crazy really, of course you don't relate... but if you were asked ignorant questions all the time and felt you had to "teach" people who claim to be so "understanding" and "culturally aware"... its rude. But many women extend themselves. But why should we have to teach anybody anything?

Its the sense of entitlement that gets tiresome.....

"explain youself to me"

"why is your hair like that?"

"why is your skin like that?"

"why do you think that way?"

why do black women have to cater to white men's fascinations? Its creepy in a sorted way, we shouldn't be forced to explain our existence to white men period.

I did actually have a positive attitude, but some have a poor attitude about women who choose not to explain themselves and right them off as bitches or moody. Women here shouldn't be expected to explain anything about themselves like that

Hair in general is OK, but like I said before... its a slippery slope when you make it about race.

It's pathetic because I don't think this thread, nor Ace himself and his intentions, comes anywhere close to your exaggerated appraisal of what's going on here. He just asked black women about their hair. Don't answer his questions if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you to explain anything. He just asked.

and now we come full circle. you have learned nothing because you still think that its okay for him to ask. There it is...that attitude reaking with that sense of entititlement that people like you like to pretend does not exist. People of african descent dont owe anyone shit.....and that includes information about personal hygeine. Fuck folks curiosity and the idea that you have about it being an "innocent question". you often cant teach an old dog new tricks..

[Edited 4/8/11 22:40pm]

StillGotIt said:

Fauxie said:

It's pathetic because I don't think this thread, nor Ace himself and his intentions, comes anywhere close to your exaggerated appraisal of what's going on here. He just asked black women about their hair. Don't answer his questions if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you to explain anything. He just asked.

and now we come full circle. you have learned nothing because you still think that its okay for him to ask. There it is...that attitude reaking with that sense of entititlement that people like you like to pretend does not exist. People of african descent dont owe anyone shit.....and that includes information about personal hygeine. Fuck folks curiosity and the idea that you have about it being an "innocent question". you often cant teach an old dog new tricks..

[Edited 4/8/11 22:40pm]

I think he's fine to ask, so we disagree. That's a whole lot of unnecessary blather to me. It's not speaking to me or my viewpoint, and I don't think it speaks to where Ace is coming from, from what he's said on this thread, so I'm not sure who it's for. Just seems to be very vague and unnecessarily defensive, put out there to vent or something. Don't answer his questions if you don't like them. Who said you owe anyone anything?

Fauxie said:

paintedlady said:

That's a really fucked up thing to say... really.

Calling someone pathetic because people get tired of explaining themselves is ridiculous.

Its crazy really, of course you don't relate... but if you were asked ignorant questions all the time and felt you had to "teach" people who claim to be so "understanding" and "culturally aware"... its rude. But many women extend themselves. But why should we have to teach anybody anything?

Its the sense of entitlement that gets tiresome.....

"explain youself to me"

"why is your hair like that?"

"why is your skin like that?"

"why do you think that way?"

why do black women have to cater to white men's fascinations? Its creepy in a sorted way, we shouldn't be forced to explain our existence to white men period.

I did actually have a positive attitude, but some have a poor attitude about women who choose not to explain themselves and right them off as bitches or moody. Women here shouldn't be expected to explain anything about themselves like that

Hair in general is OK, but like I said before... its a slippery slope when you make it about race.

It's pathetic because I don't think this thread, nor Ace himself and his intentions, comes anywhere close to your exaggerated appraisal of what's going on here. He just asked black women about their hair. Don't answer his questions if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you to explain anything. He just asked.

And I answered becaused I wanted to... and if someone questions the intent that should be OK too.

Its when an orger questioned why Ace asked the question on black hair did this thread take a turn because all the sudden that meant that we are moody bitches if we question why someone would be fascinated. It smelled like a bait question since in was about "black hair" not all women's hair. Its bad form.

I already explained that though, fauxie read the thread, and no I am not exaggerating shit, you are being too dismissive... again.

"Ah, these black women with their sensitive attitudes".... yup. Why do you even get on these threads? Just to argue but you add nothing to the topic at hand.

You really think any black woman here gives a fuck what you think about them with that attitude?

paintedlady said:

Fauxie said:

It's pathetic because I don't think this thread, nor Ace himself and his intentions, comes anywhere close to your exaggerated appraisal of what's going on here. He just asked black women about their hair. Don't answer his questions if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you to explain anything. He just asked.

And I answered becaused I wanted to... and if someone questions the intent that should be OK too.

Its when an orger questioned why Ace asked the question on black hair did this thread take a turn because all the sudden that meant that we are moody bitches if we question why someone would be fascinated. It smelled like a bait question since in was about "black hair" not all women's hair. Its bad form.

I already explained that though, fauxie read the thread, and no I am not exaggerating shit, you are being too dismissive... again.

"Ah, these black women with their sensitive attitudes".... yup. Why do you even get on these threads? Just to argue but you add nothing to the topic at hand.

You really think any black woman here gives a fuck what you think about them with that attitude?

I see some people take the thread the way I personally think it was meant to be taken, and answering accordingly. A few members, a minority, seem to read things differently, so we end up here. 'Moody bitches'? First time I've seen that here was in your post. Not sure what to make of that, then. I just don't think the thread is bait in any way. I think it's an honest, curious question and don't think there's anything wrong with it. When ppl start saying things like 'sense of entitlement' or 'white mens' fascinations' it leaves me scratching my head as to where that sentiment comes from. It's in the replies, not the OP's original conceit of the thread, I think. It's like pre-emptive defence of something not even under attack. He just asked black women on the org about their hair.

paintedlady said:

You really think any black woman here gives a fuck what you think about them with that attitude?

Absurd. Is that how I should be thinking when I post, rather than about individuals? Should I get you to ask around and check with the darker skinned ladies and get back to me? I'd hate to say that in my opinion Ace's thread isn't bait, only to find all black women don't give a fuck what I think about them as a result. I must've forgotten to turn on my 'orging with black woman' mode before I posted? Tell me what exactly my attitude is in so far as how it relates to black women? As I said, absurd. Dude asked about your hair, is all.

*had a response, but is sloooowly backing the heck outta this thread*

LadyLuvSexxy said:

*had a response, but is sloooowly backing the heck outta this thread*

I can relate. It's really sad what has been going on here, but I guess it's no surprise. This thread that started as a nice discussion between open-minded people turned into the typical P&R thread.

LadyLuvSexxy said:

*had a response, but is sloooowly backing the heck outta this thread*

me too... but i will say, yes, i have a natural, and i have never worn a weave or extensions.

JustErin said:

And I'm in this thread because I want to be.

Which is the same reason a bunch of men posted all over it, too, I'm guessin'.