StillGotIt said:

SCNDLS said:

Or maybe black folks get tired of being questioned, assessed, and analyzed by others like gorillas in the mist or some shit.

(had to edit more cuz this shit is funny as hell.....)

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Fuck it! Just send Jane Goodall to the hood so she can observe all our habits and report back so that white folks' curiousity about what we do, how we do it and why will be quenched once and for all, from a safe distance.

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P.S. See my thread where I encouraged women to jettison their high heels. It`s the second in a series.

Lammastide said:

StillGotIt said:

Love my hair whatever I do with it on different days. It's not a "lot of work" or hard to do. Its absolutely lovely and always looking fly as hell......thank you very much.

And no...black women do not all wear weaves. Who the fuck are you hanging around? My hair is down my back and fabulous. If you look closely, you will notice that just as many white women wear weaves as black people because their hair is often too thin and they need volume...its just not talked about as much.

I just want to know why the hell some folk are on here trying to talk like they know something........or why the hell somebody is asking stupid questions as if people of color are from outerspace.

Its hair....its fucking hair....and just like white people, there are many different textures and different ways of taking care of it--some folks take good care of their hair, and some folks look fucking busted. Race is not a factor.

I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH!!! and its ALL mine...believe that

I really do think the question comes from an innocent place. No assumptions. No baiting. Nothing "...relative to white women." And, knowing Ace, no malice or weird intent.

I live where he does and, it's true: Sisters here simply do not rock natural styles -- or at least sisters with tighter afro texture hair don't. (There are many Black women of inmmediate multiethnic backgrounds here whose hair is very loosely curled or wavy and probably left pretty natural, but I can honestly say I've met exactly one Black woman in my 4-1/2 years here [originally from St. Thomas] who wears a tight afro style without some processing or embellishment.)

I can see why he'd be curious.

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I think people who live in segregated parts need to get out more...it isn't right for folks to sit in their little world and look through a distant telescope at another culture. Regardless of intent, its simply not respectful. If you want to learn about a people, spend some time among them.

SCNDLS said:

StillGotIt said:

(had to edit more cuz this shit is funny as hell.....)

[Edited 4/8/11 20:02pm]

Fuck it! Just send Jane Goodall to the hood so she can observe all our habits and report back so that white folks' curiousity about what we do, how we do it and why will be quenched once and for all.

ROFL....and I didn't even see this before my last post. [img:$uid]http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/StillGotItNow/ufo.gif[/img:$uid] Scndls...maybe we should beam out...we've been discovered.....

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StillGotIt said:

I think people who live in segregated parts need to get out more...it isn't right for folks to sit in their little world and look through a distant telescope at another culture. Regardless of intent, its simply not respectful. If you want to learn about a people, spend some time among them.

What do you mean by "segregated parts"? Have you ever been to Toronto? And I've traveled the world.

StillGotIt said:

SCNDLS said:

Fuck it! Just send Jane Goodall to the hood so she can observe all our habits and report back so that white folks' curiousity about what we do, how we do it and why will be quenched once and for all.

ROFL....and I didn't even see this before my last post. [img:$uid]http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/StillGotItNow/ufo.gif[/img:$uid] Scndls...maybe we should beam out...we've been discovered.....

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Chile, I just snorted up my ketel one citron lemon drop and blew it all over my computer screen. I'm done witchu!

Ace said:

StillGotIt said:

I think people who live in segregated parts need to get out more...it isn't right for folks to sit in their little world and look through a distant telescope at another culture. Regardless of intent, its simply not respectful. If you want to learn about a people, spend some time among them.

What do you mean by "segregated parts"? Have you ever been to Toronto? And I've traveled the world.

Dude, then if you live in such a multi-cultural community, then why are you committing such a cultural faux pas?

This is just as controversial as me asking...

"How do white folks get that smell offa them after it rains?"

its read as offensive to black folks, but many took the time to answer politely and gave you the room. But still.... dude, you don't ask this stuff, you pick up books or google or talk to a black friend/hairdresser about it.

Innocent but not tactful you do this often ya know, this is why ya gets the side eye...

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We come in peace....

paintedlady said:

you do this often ya know

Uh, no.

I've had it...I just CANT anymore with this thread...Just killing me

StillGotIt said:

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We come in peace....

You know what . . .

Ace said:

paintedlady said:

you do this often ya know

Uh, no.

oookkkaaayyyy...

paintedlady said:

Ace said:

Uh, no.

oookkkaaayyyy...

Oh, boy. You must be confusing me with someone else. Can you give me an example?

Lammastide said:

StillGotIt said:

Love my hair whatever I do with it on different days. It's not a "lot of work" or hard to do. Its absolutely lovely and always looking fly as hell......thank you very much.

And no...black women do not all wear weaves. Who the fuck are you hanging around? My hair is down my back and fabulous. If you look closely, you will notice that just as many white women wear weaves as black people because their hair is often too thin and they need volume...its just not talked about as much.

I just want to know why the hell some folk are on here trying to talk like they know something........or why the hell somebody is asking stupid questions as if people of color are from outerspace.

Its hair....its fucking hair....and just like white people, there are many different textures and different ways of taking care of it--some folks take good care of their hair, and some folks look fucking busted. Race is not a factor.

I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH!!! and its ALL mine...believe that

I really do think the question comes from an innocent place. No assumptions. No baiting. Nothing "...relative to white women." And, knowing Ace, no malice or weird intent.

I live where he does and, it's true: Sisters here simply do not rock natural styles -- or at least sisters with tighter afro texture hair don't. (There are many Black women of immediate multiethnic backgrounds here whose hair is very loosely curled or wavy and probably left pretty natural, but I can honestly say I've met exactly one Black woman in my 4-1/2 years here [originally from St. Thomas] who wears a tight afro style without some processing or embellishment.)

I can see why he'd be curious.

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Well that goes to show you that Black woman are individuals with various textures of hair. My mother/1 of my sisters are from St. Thomas, VI, and they both have long ass hair. My mom's hair has always been long and is a beautiful texture, as were her sisters when they were alive. Black wome in the Caribbean are no different from any other woman, when it comes to various hair textures. Doesn't matter where they come from, they all have different or similar hair textures, but never "exactly" the same as a whole. Black women, just like non-black women, choose to do whatever they want wiith their hair, because they can. Just like non-black women, black women have short, long, straight, semi-straight, wavy, kinky, wavy-kinky, wavy-straight, very curly, kinky-tight curled, and then some.

Whatever process they choose to do with their hair, is based on the individual. In NYC there are tons of hair extension salons, that cater specificially to white woman or those according to society's description of women of European ethnic groups, who wear hair extensions. You see them all over tv wearing them, but because long hair has been associated with white women and women from other groups, with similar hair textures, most wouldn't question if it's their natural hair, they would just assume it, dur to societal conditioning. Many white women perm their hair and do other chemically-treated processes to it. I think it's all a matter of stereotypical assumptions associated with specific groups, due to societal conditioning, if you will, that is often fed to many, and due many within society's lack of individual effort to do research on their own in relation to learning about other groups' customs/similarities/differences.

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Ace said:

paintedlady said:

oookkkaaayyyy...

Oh, boy. You must be confusing me with someone else. Can you give me an example?

did you request an example?

how about the "black slang" thread now ongoing or your comments about this lovely lady...

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StillGotIt said:

Ace said:

Oh, boy. You must be confusing me with someone else. Can you give me an example?

did you request an example?

how about the "black slang" thread now ongoing or your comments about this lovely lady...

[img:$uid]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c202/chihuaschunty/serena_williams_.jpg[/img:$uid]

So, the black dude on Stern was inaccurate when he said that "sonned" was black slang?

And what comments are you referring to?

black women are just sensitive about their hair..

even toward other black women ..geez

if i had a dollar for everytime i heard a black woman say "Is that all her hair" or "that aint all her hair"

all of these hair hang ups came from black women themselves ie "Good Hair"

Ace watch Chris Rocks documentary "good hair"

I Hate sometimes when us black women do that,

do you really think a white male who doesnt style hair would know about ethnic hair ??

instead of asking why did you ask that question? why dont you educate them so they wont ask these questions ...

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Ace said:

Oh, boy. You must be confusing me with someone else. Can you give me an example?

Don't fret Ace... if you say you are innocent, then I believe you. But this thread can be seen as rude, or atleast culturally challenged even for one as well traveled as you sir.

StillGotIt said:

Lammastide said:

I really do think the question comes from an innocent place. No assumptions. No baiting. Nothing "...relative to white women." And, knowing Ace, no malice or weird intent.

I live where he does and, it's true: Sisters here simply do not rock natural styles -- or at least sisters with tighter afro texture hair don't. (There are many Black women of inmmediate multiethnic backgrounds here whose hair is very loosely curled or wavy and probably left pretty natural, but I can honestly say I've met exactly one Black woman in my 4-1/2 years here [originally from St. Thomas] who wears a tight afro style without some processing or embellishment.)

I can see why he'd be curious.

[Edited 4/8/11 20:04pm]

I think people who live in segregated parts need to get out more...it isn't right for folks to sit in their little world and look through a distant telescope at another culture. Regardless of intent, its simply not respectful. If you want to learn about a people, spend some time among them.

Agree, and even when they spend time among groups different from themselves, they should never assume, they all think, act or look alike.

formallypickles said:

black women are just sensitive about their hair..

even toward other black women ..geez

if i had a dollar for everytime i heard a black woman say "Is that all her hair" or "that aint all her hair"

Ace watch Chris Rocks documentary "good hair"

wow...thats a blanket statement....I'd better report that to the mother ship..... [img:$uid]http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/StillGotItNow/aliens_animated2.gif[/img:$uid]

formallypickles said:

black women are just sensitive about their hair..

even toward other black women ..geez

if i had a dollar for everytime i heard a black woman say "Is that all her hair" or "that aint all her hair"

Ace watch Chris Rocks documentary "good hair"

I haven't seen it, but reading about it was one of the things that inspired this thread.

paintedlady said:

Don't fret Ace... if you say you are innocent, then I believe you. But this thread can be seen as rude, or atleast culturally challenged even for one as well traveled as you sir.

You're right. I should've just titled it, "Org women who put a lot of time and/or money into your hair, I'm curious...". Point taken. Thank you.

P.S. I don't recall ever mentioning Serena Williams. Maybe it was in a thread where someone was discussing body-types and I said her build wasn't my type?

2elijah said:

StillGotIt said:

I think people who live in segregated parts need to get out more...it isn't right for folks to sit in their little world and look through a distant telescope at another culture. Regardless of intent, its simply not respectful. If you want to learn about a people, spend some time among them.

Agree, and even when they spend time among groups different from themselves, they should never assume, they all think, act or look alike.

No one said "they all". I said:

I ask because, from what I read, it seems like black women who don't do any of these things are in the vast minority. Is this accurate?

StillGotIt said:

Lammastide said:

I really do think the question comes from an innocent place. No assumptions. No baiting. Nothing "...relative to white women." And, knowing Ace, no malice or weird intent.

I live where he does and, it's true: Sisters here simply do not rock natural styles -- or at least sisters with tighter afro texture hair don't. (There are many Black women of inmmediate multiethnic backgrounds here whose hair is very loosely curled or wavy and probably left pretty natural, but I can honestly say I've met exactly one Black woman in my 4-1/2 years here [originally from St. Thomas] who wears a tight afro style without some processing or embellishment.)

I can see why he'd be curious.

[Edited 4/8/11 20:04pm]

I think people who live in segregated parts need to get out more...it isn't right for folks to sit in their little world and look through a distant telescope at another culture. Regardless of intent, its simply not respectful. If you want to learn about a people, spend some time among them.

I feel you. But segregation is sometimes a two-way thing. Ace, for example, hasn't locked himself away, making cultural assumptions or reading some sketchy mess on the internet and going out thinking he's an expert on Black folk. He actually asked Black folk with whom he interacts almost daily and whose first-hand insight he apparently respects -- us. and since we represent Black folk from literally all over the world, what better representation of our diversity could he tap? If we're offended by simply being asked respectfully about a part of our culture(s), then what?

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You know guys... theres been plenty of threads started about and by black women about their hair... and scalp itching...

All he wants to know is why would a women want to spend HOURS and tons of money on their hair when natural can be pretty and is free...

He is a man, they will never understand all we do to look good!

formallypickles said:

black women are just sensitive about their hair..

even toward other black women ..geez

if i had a dollar for everytime i heard a black woman say "Is that all her hair" or "that aint all her hair"

Ace watch Chris Rocks documentary "good hair"

Not all Black women, because that's a pretty generalized statement. I've heard white woman asks other white women, "Is that all your hair?". Especially with so many women in general wearing hair extensions from all racial/ethnic groups, for whatever personal reason they choose, and they should never have to answer for anyone on that personal choice.

I thought Chris Rock's movie "Good Hair" was a piece of garbage and played up to stereotypical bs. If he was so concerned about his daughter asking him how come she doesn't have the kind of hair like her friends/schoolmates, he should have explained it to her the right way. Since he was so concerned about the "weave" industry and many Black women, he should have been just as concerned about the "weave/wig" industry and how it caters to many non-black women as well.

I felt the movie was too generalized, and he acted ignorant when he questioned a Black woman if her real hair was her own as though he's never seen Black women with long hair in his entire life. If he wanted to question a Black woman who wore weaves, all he had to do was ask his wife, who wears a weave down her ass. Then there would have been no reason for him to use that excuse, to make a stereotypical movie like that, just to make a quick buck at the expense of promoting stereotypical nonsense. He may as well join Tyler Perry on the minstrel train.

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Ace said:

paintedlady said:

Don't fret Ace... if you say you are innocent, then I believe you. But this thread can be seen as rude, or atleast culturally challenged even for one as well traveled as you sir.

You're right. I should've just titled it, "Org women who put a lot of time and/or money into your hair, I'm curious...". Point taken. Thank you.

P.S. I don't recall ever mentioning Serena Williams. Maybe it was in a thread where someone was discussing body-types and I said her build wasn't my type?

Its just hair after all... but when you point out race it is a slippery slope and it gets pretty steep.

tinaz said:

You know guys... theres been plenty of threads started about and by black women about their hair... and scalp itching...

All he wants to know is why would a women want to spend HOURS and tons of money on their hair when natural can be pretty and is free...

He is a man, they will never understand all we do to look good!

I hear you, but when it comes down to it, many women of all race groups make various choices when it comes to haircare in general, sometimes not the best choices, but still not limited to those of African/African-American descent.

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2elijah said:

tinaz said:

You know guys... theres been plenty of threads started about and by black women about their hair... and scalp itching...

All he wants to know is why would a women want to spend HOURS and tons of money on their hair when natural can be pretty and is free...

He is a man, they will never understand all we do to look good!

I hear you, but when it comes down to it, many women of all race groups make various choices when it comes to haircare in general, sometimes not the best choices, but still not limited to those of African/African-American descent.

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I totally agree!!