Ace said:

StillGotIt said:

And no...black women do not all wear weaves. Who the fuck are you hanging around?

I didn't say that all black women wear weaves. I said that I keep reading that it's a minority of black women who wear their hair au naturel (i.e. weaves, wigs or relaxer). And, here in Toronto, that's been my experience.

That hasn't been my experience (and I do look closely). But I'm not looking for a fight.

I just want to know why...the hell somebody is asking stupid questions as if people of color are from outerspace.

I'd ask the same question if it was a phenomenon amongst white women in Peoria. My intention was to say this: 'It seems like societal pressure is inspiring a lot of women to do arduous and potentially painful things to their scalps. Have you ever considered just saying "Fuck convention" and going natural?'

I think that, if you ask people here, they'll tell you that I don't regard people of color as being "from outerspace". In fact, quite the opposite.

when white people talk bout black "Things" lots(not all) of black people( from what i seen) jump the gun and get defensive A LOT. its not that some whites are "racist" they just truly are curious/ or and dont have a clue and want to know. ..

I wore my hair natural for about two years. The longer it got, the thicker it became and the harder it was to take care of it. Now, there is a texturizer in it. I haven't permed my hair in in about five years. I will be getting all my hait cut off and starting from scratch again this summer. I hate having any chemicals in my hair. My hair's brittle and taking care of even the texturizer is too much work for me. I liked it and myself better when I rocked it natural.

My friend who's biracial with black and white straight her hair everyday. Nobody in my class wears curly hair or even wavy. (Okay most people in my class are asian, BUT they STILL use flat irons) If it's curled you can bet it's been straightened first THEN curled with a curling iron. I even straighten my hair at the ends because I have wavy hair. It's just the way things are and believe me you're looked different when you don't have straight hair. But when your out in the water....that's the only time you can rock natural styles.

IT's a lot of work for African women but since everyone I know straightens their hair in some way EVERYDAY I don't think it makes them the only women who work to have straight/perfect hair.

Maytiana said:

My friend who's biracial with black and white straight her hair everyday. Nobody in my class wears curly hair or even wavy. (Okay most people in my class are asian, BUT they STILL use flat irons) If it's curled you can bet it's been straightened first THEN curled with a curling iron. I even straighten my hair at the ends because I have wavy hair. It's just the way things are and believe me you're looked different when you don't have straight hair. But when your out in the water....that's the only time you can rock natural styles.

IT's a lot of work for African women but since everyone I know straightens their hair in some way EVERYDAY I don't think it makes them the only women who work to have straight/perfect hair.

Exactly... all hair is work. Depends on style, perming hair, relaxing a curl... all the same amount of work really.

paintedlady said:

Maytiana said:

My friend who's biracial with black and white straight her hair everyday. Nobody in my class wears curly hair or even wavy. (Okay most people in my class are asian, BUT they STILL use flat irons) If it's curled you can bet it's been straightened first THEN curled with a curling iron. I even straighten my hair at the ends because I have wavy hair. It's just the way things are and believe me you're looked different when you don't have straight hair. But when your out in the water....that's the only time you can rock natural styles.

IT's a lot of work for African women but since everyone I know straightens their hair in some way EVERYDAY I don't think it makes them the only women who work to have straight/perfect hair.

Exactly... all hair is work. Depends on style, perming hair, relaxing a curl... all the same amount of work really.

paintedlady said:

all hair is work.

What about a buzz cut?

Ace said:

paintedlady said:

all hair is work.

What about a buzz cut?

You have to constantly get it trimmed....

tinaz said:

Ace said:

What about a buzz cut?

You have to constantly get it trimmed....

What about a buzzcut and a hat?

Ace said:

tinaz said:

You have to constantly get it trimmed....

What about a buzzcut and a hat?

Thats just laziness right there...

Ace said:

tinaz said:

You have to constantly get it trimmed....

What about a buzzcut and a hat?

Gotta keep a fresh hat... and a trim.

tinaz said:

Ace said:

What about a buzzcut and a hat?

Thats just laziness right there...

Only if he's bald

Ace said:

StillGotIt said:

And no...black women do not all wear weaves. Who the fuck are you hanging around?

I didn't say that all black women wear weaves. I said that I keep reading that it's a minority of black women who wear their hair au naturel (i.e. weaves, wigs or relaxer). And, here in Toronto, that's been my experience.

That hasn't been my experience (and I do look closely). But I'm not looking for a fight.

I just want to know why...the hell somebody is asking stupid questions as if people of color are from outerspace.

I'd ask the same question if it was a phenomenon amongst white women in Peoria. My intention was to say this: 'It seems like societal pressure is inspiring a lot of women to do arduous and potentially painful things to their scalps. Have you ever considered just saying "Fuck convention" and going natural?'

I think that, if you ask people here, they'll tell you that I don't regard people of color as being "from outerspace". In fact, quite the opposite.

Well...maybe I'm reading you wrong....or maybe I'm reading you right. I just feel like you do a lot of prodding when it comes to people of color.

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

Thats just laziness right there...

Only if he's bald

Good point!

I find it funny some people work to straighten their hair, and i work to make mine curl!

tinaz said:

Ace said:

What about a buzzcut and a hat?

Thats just laziness right there...

You say that like it's a bad thing.

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

Thats just laziness right there...

Only if he's bald

I don't follow?

tinaz said:

I find it funny some people work to straighten their hair, and i work to make mine curl!

I straighten mines... that's because all hair has qualities that are not ideal.

Straight hair tends to lack fullness, and curly hair tends to frizz, so we alter natural textures to give us more polish.

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

I find it funny some people work to straighten their hair, and i work to make mine curl!

I straighten mines... that's because all hair has qualities that are not ideal.

Straight hair tends to lack fullness, and curly hair tends to frizz, so we alter natural textures to give us more polish.

Well said

StillGotIt said:

Ace said:

I'd ask the same question if it was a phenomenon amongst white women in Peoria. My intention was to say this: 'It seems like societal pressure is inspiring a lot of women to do arduous and potentially painful things to their scalps. Have you ever considered just saying "Fuck convention" and going natural?'

I think that, if you ask people here, they'll tell you that I don't regard people of color as being "from outerspace". In fact, quite the opposite.

Well...maybe I'm reading you wrong....or maybe I'm reading you right. I just feel like you do a lot of prodding when it comes to people of color.

Based on two threads (one asking about a slang term I heard on the radio yesterday and the other encouraging people to embrace their natural beauty)?

You are reading me wrong. Way wrong.

Ace said:

tinaz said:

Thats just laziness right there...

You say that like it's a bad thing.

You know if you see a girl in a ballcap she was to lazy to wash it Unless you are at a game or are participating in a sport... I wear one when i run... But then again... I dont wash my hair before I go

tinaz said:

paintedlady said:

I straighten mines... that's because all hair has qualities that are not ideal.

Straight hair tends to lack fullness, and curly hair tends to frizz, so we alter natural textures to give us more polish.

Well said

TY

StillGotIt said:

Love my hair whatever I do with it on different days. It's not a "lot of work" or hard to do. Its absolutely lovely and always looking fly as hell......thank you very much.

And no...black women do not all wear weaves. Who the fuck are you hanging around? My hair is down my back and fabulous. If you look closely, you will notice that just as many white women wear weaves as black people because their hair is often too thin and they need volume...its just not talked about as much.

I just want to know why the hell some folk are on here trying to talk like they know something........or why the hell somebody is asking stupid questions as if people of color are from outerspace.

Its hair....its fucking hair....and just like white people, there are many different textures and different ways of taking care of it--some folks take good care of their hair, and some folks look fucking busted. Race is not a factor.

I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH!!! and its ALL mine...believe that

I really do think the question comes from an innocent place. No assumptions. No baiting. Nothing "...relative to white women." And, knowing Ace, no malice or weird intent.

I live where he does and, it's true: Sisters here simply do not rock natural styles -- or at least sisters with tighter afro texture hair don't. (There are many Black women of immediate multiethnic backgrounds here whose hair is very loosely curled or wavy and probably left pretty natural). I can honestly say I've met exactly one Black woman in my 4-1/2 years here [originally from St. Thomas] who wears a tight afro style without some processing or embellishment.)

I can see why he'd be curious.

[Edited 4/9/11 12:15pm]

StillGotIt said:

Ace said:

I'd ask the same question if it was a phenomenon amongst white women in Peoria. My intention was to say this: 'It seems like societal pressure is inspiring a lot of women to do arduous and potentially painful things to their scalps. Have you ever considered just saying "Fuck convention" and going natural?'

I think that, if you ask people here, they'll tell you that I don't regard people of color as being "from outerspace". In fact, quite the opposite.

Well...maybe I'm reading you wrong....or maybe I'm reading you right. I just feel like you do a lot of prodding when it comes to people of color.

Or maybe black folks get tired of being questioned, assessed, and analyzed by others like gorillas in the mist or some shit.

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

Well said

TY

formallypickles said:

Ace said:

I'd ask the same question if it was a phenomenon amongst white women in Peoria. My intention was to say this: 'It seems like societal pressure is inspiring a lot of women to do arduous and potentially painful things to their scalps. Have you ever considered just saying "Fuck convention" and going natural?'

I think that, if you ask people here, they'll tell you that I don't regard people of color as being "from outerspace". In fact, quite the opposite.

when white people talk bout black "Things" lots(not all) of black people( from what i seen) jump the gun and get defensive A LOT. its not that some whites are "racist" they just truly are curious/ or and dont have a clue and want to know. ..

First of all, many white people have a lot of stupid assumptions when it comes to persons of african descent. You have to admit, historically, usually when white people have been curious, something bad is about to happen. you've heard the old saying.....'the road to hell is paved with good intentions." And if you dont believe me....ask the native americans.....

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SCNDLS said:

StillGotIt said:

Well...maybe I'm reading you wrong....or maybe I'm reading you right. I just feel like you do a lot of prodding when it comes to people of color.

Or maybe black folks get tired of being questioned, assessed, and analyzed by others like gorillas in the mist or some shit.

(had to edit more cuz this shit is funny as hell.....)

[Edited 4/8/11 20:02pm]

SCNDLS said:

StillGotIt said:

Well...maybe I'm reading you wrong....or maybe I'm reading you right. I just feel like you do a lot of prodding when it comes to people of color.

Or maybe black folks get tired of being questioned, assessed, and analyzed by others like gorillas in the mist or some shit.

Oh God I shouldn't but that ish made me laugh.

tinaz said:

Ace said:

You say that like it's a bad thing.

You know if you see a girl in a ballcap she was to lazy to wash it Unless you are at a game or are participating in a sport... I wear one when i run... But then again... I dont wash my hair before I go

You're prejudiced against people who are energy-challenged. Don't judge!

Lammastide said:

StillGotIt said:

Love my hair whatever I do with it on different days. It's not a "lot of work" or hard to do. Its absolutely lovely and always looking fly as hell......thank you very much.

And no...black women do not all wear weaves. Who the fuck are you hanging around? My hair is down my back and fabulous. If you look closely, you will notice that just as many white women wear weaves as black people because their hair is often too thin and they need volume...its just not talked about as much.

I just want to know why the hell some folk are on here trying to talk like they know something........or why the hell somebody is asking stupid questions as if people of color are from outerspace.

Its hair....its fucking hair....and just like white people, there are many different textures and different ways of taking care of it--some folks take good care of their hair, and some folks look fucking busted. Race is not a factor.

I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH!!! and its ALL mine...believe that

I really do think the question comes from an innocent place. No assumptions. No baiting. Nothing "...relative to white women." And, knowing Ace, no malice or weird intent.

I live where he does and, it's true: Sisters here simply do not rock natural styles -- or at least sisters with tighter afro texture hair don't. (There are many Black women of inmmediate multiethnic backgrounds here whose hair is very loosely curled or wavy and probably natural, but I can honestly say I've met exactly one Black woman in my 4-1/2 years here [originally from St. Thomas] who wears a tight afro style.)

I can see why he'd be curious.

[Edited 4/8/11 19:56pm]

Thanks, man.

lavender1983 said:

Oh God I shouldn't but that ish made me laugh.

I am laughing so hard my ass hurts right now.