it's actually not that bad. Better than my dorm in college!

I live in a studio apartment, though. It's at least three times as big as hers, but she has what she needs. I could go smaller if I had to

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

how can you fuck properly in that bed?

challenges can bring out the best in us!

OK, with the right partner… I'm willing to try

ZombieKitten said:

how can you fuck properly in that bed?

that's what the floor is for, and the ladder, and the chair, and the entry...

I've never understood why people still flock to live in NYC anyway.

Millions and millions of people packed into one small city where the crime rate is high as fuck and only surpassed by the cost of living....with rats everywhere and....

I just don't get the NYC appeal. Sure, I'd love to visit, but at this point I feel like, if you're crazy enough to move out to NYC and set up house there, you pretty much asked to live in a closet or a box and I really can't feel sorry for you. An overpriced one at that.

A place that small needs organization solutions to at least make it feel like a home rather than a storage unit.

The closet needs slide out closet shelves... something like this http://www.cozyclosets.co...rge/26.jpg and the other one I'm thinking of I can't find a picture of.

In the corner space by the window on the side with the brick wall there could be an 'L' shaped shelving attached to the wall, taking the shelf space off the floor and maybe a little higher and as close to the ladder leading up to the loft bed as reasonable. The shelving sitting on the floor makes it look even smaller. Under the shelf (depending on the height of the shelf) a wooden bench that runs along the wall (with storage under the seat) could be added so that it could also be doubled as a step (the ladder to the loft could also be used to get things from the shelf).

The kitchen area, they could lose that little shelf and at least put a little wider counter (possibly with a small sink) space there with shelves underneath and on one side room for the small refrigerator. On the wall above that shelf they could put small wall shelves for a little food or a hanging dish rack or maybe both (aligned with the width of the counter top).

The wall in the loft, the side of the brick wall could be painted white to make it feel a little bigger (not the whole wall, just up to the edge where the loft ends.

Those are a few ideas I could think of to utilize the wasted space in that apartment and to make it not feel so small. With all that stuff on the floor, it makes it feel smaller.

her place is too big. i'd need something smaller like this $30 per night capsule hotel in japan:

I stayed in a hotel room with no windows for 4 nights once, it was really WEIRD and claustrophobic. Could not tell if it was day or night

Judging fromt he looks of her place, this chick is getting NO sex, and she must have hit her head on the ceiling one time too many. Who the hell thinks its great to live like that? she doesn't even have room to set down her pocketbook. Living like that is not living.

ZombieKitten said:

also...her bed is a death trap if there were ever a fire.....smoke rises and hits you in your sleep and her bed is so high, first responders might not notice her.....

StillGotIt said:

Judging fromt he looks of her place, this chick is getting NO sex, and she must have hit her head on the ceiling one time too many. Who the hell thinks its great to live like that? she doesn't even have room to set down her pocketbook. Living like that is not living.

I agree.There is no way I could sleep in a bed that is only a few inches away from the ceiling!

Here is another small NYC apartment I remembered reading about - comparing it to the one in the OP, it now looks kind of spacious at 175 square feet! They actually bought the space instead of just renting.

http://www.nypost.com/p/n...c17zkw4efP

Cozy-crazy couple makes tight all right in the city's tiniest studio

By ANGELA MONTEFINISE

Last Updated: 11:57 AM, December 13, 2009

Posted: 4:01 AM, December 6, 2009

XxAxX said:

her place is too big. i'd need something smaller like this $30 per night capsule hotel in japan:

you do know dear, that I couldn't sleep because you kept the light on, don't you...?

I love that apartment!

Except the bathroom. I kind of hate it.

But I actually don't like huge open spaces, so that makes me more comfortable.

I own a modest house in Tampa (15,000 sq ft), and was almost NEVER in the big rooms,

prefer to hideout in my library or master bedroom.

BlackAdder7 said:

XxAxX said:

her place is too big. i'd need something smaller like this $30 per night capsule hotel in japan:

you do know dear, that I couldn't sleep because you kept the light on, don't you...?

i'm sorry dear. i was trying to stay awake and read quietly so my snoring wouldn't disturb you.

armpit said:

I've never understood why people still flock to live in NYC anyway.

Millions and millions of people packed into one small city where the crime rate is high as fuck and only surpassed by the cost of living....with rats everywhere and....

No it's not. New York City is one of the safest big cities in the U.S. Below is from a 2005 study:

Link

sextonseven said:

armpit said:

I've never understood why people still flock to live in NYC anyway.

Millions and millions of people packed into one small city where the crime rate is high as fuck and only surpassed by the cost of living....with rats everywhere and....

No it's not. New York City is one of the safest big cities in the U.S. Below is from a 2005 study:

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)
Safest 10:	Most Dangerous 10:

1	San Jose, CA	1	Detroit, MI
2	El Paso, TX	2	Washington, DC
3	Honolulu, HI	3	Baltimore, MD
4	Austin, TX	4	Memphis, TN
5	New York, NY	5	Dallas, TX
6	Louisville, KY	6	Philadelphia, PA
7	San Diego, CA	7	Columbus, OH
8	San Antonio, TX	8	Nashville, TN
9	San Francisco, CA	9	Houston, TX
10	Fort Worth, TX	10	Phoenix, AZ

Link

Damn, I went from Philly to DC.

Out in the burbs tho. Not in the city.

sextonseven said:

armpit said:

I've never understood why people still flock to live in NYC anyway.

Millions and millions of people packed into one small city where the crime rate is high as fuck and only surpassed by the cost of living....with rats everywhere and....

No it's not. New York City is one of the safest big cities in the U.S. Below is from a 2005 study:

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)
Safest 10:	Most Dangerous 10:

1	San Jose, CA	1	Detroit, MI
2	El Paso, TX	2	Washington, DC
3	Honolulu, HI	3	Baltimore, MD
4	Austin, TX	4	Memphis, TN
5	New York, NY	5	Dallas, TX
6	Louisville, KY	6	Philadelphia, PA
7	San Diego, CA	7	Columbus, OH
8	San Antonio, TX	8	Nashville, TN
9	San Francisco, CA	9	Houston, TX
10	Fort Worth, TX	10	Phoenix, AZ

Link

i hear they cleaned up NYC drastically

they even got eagles to kill off some of the pigeons ( yes )

and of course Detroit would be the most dangerous

Baltimore looks like hell and the crime is spreading to DC ...

i heard the crime in PG county terrible and that use to be a nice middle class black area when my father was growing up there ...geez shame

sextonseven said:

armpit said:

I've never understood why people still flock to live in NYC anyway.

Millions and millions of people packed into one small city where the crime rate is high as fuck and only surpassed by the cost of living....with rats everywhere and....

No it's not. New York City is one of the safest big cities in the U.S. Below is from a 2005 study:

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)
Safest 10:	Most Dangerous 10:

1	San Jose, CA	1	Detroit, MI
2	El Paso, TX	2	Washington, DC
3	Honolulu, HI	3	Baltimore, MD
4	Austin, TX	4	Memphis, TN
5	New York, NY	5	Dallas, TX
6	Louisville, KY	6	Philadelphia, PA
7	San Diego, CA	7	Columbus, OH
8	San Antonio, TX	8	Nashville, TN
9	San Francisco, CA	9	Houston, TX
10	Fort Worth, TX	10	Phoenix, AZ

Link

I found more recent crime rate stats:

if i was still single, i could live in a small space like that.

sextonseven said:

sextonseven said:

I found more recent crime rate stats:

CQ Press City Crime Rankings 2010-2011

Rankings by Population Categories
CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION (34 CITIES)

Lowest Crime Rate Ranking
1. El Paso, TX
2. Honolulu, HI
3. New York, NY
4. San Jose, CA
5. San Diego, CA
6. Austin, TX
7. Portland, OR
8. Los Angeles, CA
9. Seattle, WA
10. Fort Worth, TX

Highest Crime Rate Ranking

1. Detroit, MI

2. Baltimore, MD

3. Memphis, TN

4. Washington, DC

5. Atlanta, GA

6. Indianapolis, IN

7. Philadelphia, PA

8. Milwaukee, WI

9. Houston, TX

10. Columbus, OH

Link

since i'm moving in a few months, this is good info., thanks!

johnart said:

sextonseven said:

No it's not. New York City is one of the safest big cities in the U.S. Below is from a 2005 study:

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)
Safest 10:	Most Dangerous 10:

1	San Jose, CA	1	Detroit, MI
2	El Paso, TX	2	Washington, DC
3	Honolulu, HI	3	Baltimore, MD
4	Austin, TX	4	Memphis, TN
5	New York, NY	5	Dallas, TX
6	Louisville, KY	6	Philadelphia, PA
7	San Diego, CA	7	Columbus, OH
8	San Antonio, TX	8	Nashville, TN
9	San Francisco, CA	9	Houston, TX
10	Fort Worth, TX	10	Phoenix, AZ

Link

Damn, I went from Philly to DC.

Out in the burbs tho. Not in the city.

Johnart ,do you live on the Virginia side or the Maryland side.

Yes, I could be very happy living in that little a space (although having the bed so close to the ceiling might make me feel claustrophobic) - after all, I am a minimalist.

Simplicity's where it's at.

XxAxX said:

her place is too big. i'd need something smaller like this $30 per night capsule hotel in japan:

Never that! I prefer large spaces. A home that size would drive me bat crazy and result in an extreme case of claustraphobia. It's practically a coffin.

johnart said:

OH and I know it sounds all romantic and shit but NO, Central Park is NOT your backyard.

It's a fuckin park.

I don't walk to my backyard. I open the door and I'm there.

Proof that the park isn't your backyard: the ticket you'll get if you set up a kiddie pool and start drinkin' cocktails in it.

jone70 said:

Here is another small NYC apartment I remembered reading about - comparing it to the one in the OP, it now looks kind of spacious at 175 square feet! They actually bought the space instead of just renting.

http://www.nypost.com/p/n...c17zkw4efP

Cozy-crazy couple makes tight all right in the city's tiniest studio

By ANGELA MONTEFINISE

Last Updated: 11:57 AM, December 13, 2009

Posted: 4:01 AM, December 6, 2009

If they can make it there, they can make it anywhere.

Zaarath and Christopher Prokop -- and their two cats -- live in the smallest apartment in the city, a 175-square-foot "microstudio" in Morningside Heights the couple bought three months ago for $150,000.

At 14.9 feet long and 10 feet wide, it's about as narrow as a subway car and as claustrophobic as a jail cell. But to the Prokops, it's a castle.

"When you first see it, the first thing you say is, 'Holy crap, this place is small,' " said Zaarath, 37, an accountant for liquor company Remy Martin. "But when I saw it, all I could think of is, I can do something with this. This is perfect for us. We love it."

PHOTOS: See the Prokop's studio

The co-op is on the 16th floor of a doorman building on 110th Street, between Broadway and Amsterdam Avenue. But it's only accessible by a staircase on the 15th floor.

It has two small windows with views of upper Manhattan; hardwood floors; a tiny kitchen with a mini-fridge and hotplate; and a closet-sized bathroom with a shower, sink and toilet.

"I'm amazed we can fit two people and two cats in there," Zaarath said. "But it's harmonious at this point. I have friends who say they could never live with their husbands in a place this small. It's a good thing we like each other enough to live there."

The couple wakes up every morning in their queen-size bed, which takes up one-third of the living space.

They then walk five feet toward the tiny kitchen, where they pull out their workout clothes, which are folded neatly in two cabinets above the sink. A third cabinet holds several containers of espresso for their only kitchen appliance, a cappuccino maker.

They turn off their hotplate, and use the space on the counter as a feeding area for their cats, Esmeralda and Beauregard.

"We don't cook," Zaarath said, adding that their fridge never has any food in it. "So when you don't cook, you don't need plates or pots or pans. So we use that space for our clothes."

Once in their running attire, the two change the cat litter box (stored under the sink) and start their small Rumba vacuum -- which operates automatically while they're out, picking up cat hair.

They then jog to their jobs in Midtown, picking up along the way their work clothes, which are "strategically stashed at various dry cleaners."

Just in case the cleaners are closed, both have emergency clothes at their offices.

"I have a closet at my office," Zaarath said. "You don't want to be standing outside a closed cleaners at 8:45 in your workout pants thinking, 'Greeeeeat' . . . It's a great strategy. You always have fresh things to wear."

The only other furniture in the apartment is a 27-inch flat-screen TV attached to the wall; a brown leather storage bench at the foot of the bed that stores linens but also acts as a sofa; a cat climbing "tree," and a shelf/wine rack system that holds a radio, cable box, and several bottles and glasses.

One of the kitchen cabinets is full of champagne because Zaarath's job allows them to order cases of it.

They don't have a trash can. The second something needs to be thrown out, they walk to the chute in the hallway.

Their bathroom -- about 3 by 9 feet -- has a small pedestal sink with mirror, and a stand-alone shower.

"Every bit of space is utilized," said Christopher, 35, also an accountant, who beamed as he showed off the apartment. "We really have everything we need."

The Prokops, who met in Texas where they worked, lived in New Jersey before moving to the Big Apple. They started with a 1,600-square-foot apartment in Glen Ridge, then moved to a 900-square-foot place in Jersey City. Once they decided on Manhattan, they wanted to go even smaller.

"We used to be kind of frivolous," said Zaarath, a California native. "I used to collect vintage clothing, for example, and the cost of storing it and moving it was just not economically viable. So when we decided to move to Manhattan, we realized we're not home that much because of our jobs. We don't need that much space. We could go smaller. When I saw the ad in the paper, I knew I had to see it. And I knew it was right for us as soon as I saw it."

Real-estate broker Steven Goldschmidt, senior vice president of Warburg Realty, showed the Prokops the apartment, which used to be one of about nine maid's quarters in the prewar building.

"We converted eight of them into four apartments," Goldschmidt said, with each apartment going for a little less than a half-million dollars.

"But we could not configure that one room within any of the floor plans we were looking at without spending oodles of money. So I came up with the idea to just make it the smallest apartment and see how it goes. I know a number of the luxury buildings are selling servants quarters and they're not this small."

He said he got "a lot of calls" from parents looking to find apartments for their Columbia students or business people looking for a pied-à-terre.

"It was not on the market all that long," he said. "And the Prokops made us a great offer, and that's it."

The couple will pay off their mortgage in two years, when they plan to remodel some of the apartment, adding a Murphy bed and larger windows. They will then be saddled only with their maintenance fee, which is just over $700 a month.

"It's like having a rent-controlled apartment," she said. "We're going to own something in Manhattan in two years. How many people can say that? And we're very happy doing more with less."

She added that because they save money on their home, they can spend money in "areas that make our lives better," like restaurants and vacations. The two just got back from Beijing and have been to Japan and other countries.

"We get to really experience life and enjoy ourselves," she said. "We eat out all the time. On the weekends, we're outside exploring the neighborhood. We're at Riverside Park all the time. We're not nesters. This apartment is perfect for someone active. If you want to stay home or entertain, this is just not the apartment for you."

She joked that the tiny apartment gets her out of hosting duties and dissuades long-term guests.

"No one ever stays too long," she said. "It's too small."

She said Christopher's parents stayed in the apartment while they were in China, and the two suitcases they brought was too much.

"They were sort of fumbling over each other," Zaarath said.

With the holidays coming, the Prokops plan to hang a wreath and put up Christmas bushes -- but in the hallway.

"Maybe I'll just get Christmas-tree pajamas and wear them around," laughed Zaarath. "That'll be good."

I have about a mortgage about the size of their purchase price - and ten times the space.

johnart said:

OH and I know it sounds all romantic and shit but NO, Central Park is NOT your backyard.

well, yeah, not if it's in the front!

HotGritz said:

Never that! I prefer large spaces. A home that size would drive me bat crazy and result in an extreme case of claustraphobia. It's practically a coffin.

My garden is bigger than her apartment. I need to space to move!

Genesia said:

I have about a mortgage about the size of their purchase price - and ten times the space.

Yeah, in Wisconsin, right? My brother owns a split level with a garage, yard, all that and of course pays significantly less, but he lives in Iowa. I'll take pretty much limitless culture, dining, convenience, etc. over that anyday. My mother is always trying to convince me to move back; I think I'd rather die than be stuck somewhere like that again. Not to say there's zero culture or fine dining, but country music, community theater, and the Olive Garden doesn't cut it for me.