Natsume said:

I le the cat outa the bag

theC said:

Your laughter, joining in the male bonding over grabbing her by the back of the head and yanking her back...obviously, I know you wouldn't do that. But that's how you got lumped in, right or wrong.

But all I wanted to say was: when guys get mad at what a woman says or does, they often revert to violent solutions. And they laugh and then wonder why/how millions of women are raped, murdered, etc. every year...

AnotherLover2 said:

I am mentally stronger than that. If i acted on my thoughts, i would beat the shit out of somebody every week for doing something i considered stupid. I have played violent video games and laughed. I have NO desire to KILL people, even in war. Please give people more credit and separate the creeps from the norm. Some of us have control over our actions you know.

theC said:

Good Lawd, please read what I wrote again. I said several times that I knew you were just kidding, that I knew you wouldn't do something like that--but obviously millions of other men do. And I truly believe that laughing about it, never telling guys it's inappropriate, only contributes to it. You think there are no guys on the Org who've beaten up women or seriously hurt people? There are creeps and norms here--just as in all of society.
[This message was edited Thu Feb 6 22:22:52 PST 2003 by AnotherLover2]

AnotherLover2 said:

And i was saying make me acountable for my actions, not the actions of some nut. You lumped me in with monsters and expected me to accept it. You admitted you did, now just admit you were wrong.

AnotherLover2 said:

hey sweetcheeks...haven't you got some bras to burn or somethin'? ...i was near your place the other day...just around the corner there's a strange rock formation...kinda resembles a huge penis... may i suggest you go around there with a really big sledge hammer... and SMASH THE FUCK OUT OF IT! ... i think you'll find it useful therapy..
...ooh shit...what am i doing here ... fades off into the distance

theC said:

I didn't lump you in with monsters. At all. I honestly don't see why or where you think I did.

TheOrgerFmrlyKnownAsBliss said:

TheOrgerFmrlyKnownAsBliss said:

Stereotypical, stupid shit...and my point exactly. Women don't usually go pound the shit out of people or things when they're mad, the way men usually do. However, they probably should start...

Ya'll are making a big deal out of nothing now before I ya'll starting with theC. It was a joke...do not take such offense to one another, cause if we spent out whole lives worring about something stupid someone else said then we would not be able to accomplish anything. Life is too short...get the fuck on with it and just LET IT GO!!! Thank you all for your time.

AnotherLover2 said:

This is just one example out of zillions each day, C, where I observe men reacting (or threatening to react) to what they don't like about a woman in a violent (often sexually violent) way.

It's not about you, per se, just that you and a couple other guys here reverted to that type of thinking (without even thinking, probably), and you find it humorous. I think it's weird that women don't talk about messing up men physically when they complain about them...[/quote]


I have highlighted sections from the two paragraphs typed by you. Please explain what i should get from them?


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theC said:

Yes. Who was this ungrateful wench?

theC said:

I have highlighted sections from the two paragraphs typed by you. Please explain what i should get from them?


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[This message was edited Thu Feb 6 22:39:54 PST 2003 by AnotherLover2]

MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said:

Apathy isn't my thing--and I want to make sure my point is properly understood. theC was never meant to be "started" with. If you go back to the beginning, it's plain to see my point was that I find it weird that so many men talk about physically or sexually hurting women (and then laugh about it) when they get angry or upset with them.

End of story. I'm happy to be finished with it now.

(Now back to those rude bitches who don't say thank you, and what should be done about it... )

MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said:

:K:

Supernova said:

:LOL: you sicko :K:

awww fuck it if the bitch deserves a good ass rammin fucking give it to her and give it to her hard...Damn bitches and hoes.

theC said:

right back atcha babe

MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said:

I ...AM... NOT... TOUCHING...THIS... :LOL:

theC said:

I can laugh about it cause it aint my ass getting rammed

Hahaha! Dont men use violent imagery when they're angry at other men, or even inanimate objects? Get off your high horse, it's a joke and it's funny.

Rumpofsteelskin said:

MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said:

Or how about a loud "YOU'RE WELCOME! That would embarrass the person enough to get a "thanks" out of 'em!

TreeDog said:

Hey--you don't know me, I don't know you. If you did know me, however, you'd realize that theC, stepinrazor and dumbass and I have been friendly on the Org and never have (and probably never will have) a serious problem with each other. Secondly, you'd know that my profession involves advocating for others--so it's second nature to me to "stick up for" what's right and call out what's harmful to others.

No need for you to get so defensive--or IS there?

Hmmm I hold the door open for someone basically on auto-pilot ... I never really notice if they say thank you or not

Just remember...and let them open it themselves next time.

Thank you should be automatic, if it's not - they deserve no extra effort.

AnotherLover2 said:

since i'm not handicapped, this is pretty much why i don't mind and even prefer to open my own doors. some guys are annoying in that they'll hold the door open for ya when
you're still half a block away. so there you are, strolling along because it's a nice day and you don't want to hurry. but there's some idiot standing at the door, looking impatiently at you, waiting for you to hurry up and get there. he obviously feels he's doing you a favor by standing there holding the door open, he doesn't consider it'd be better for all concerned if he goes his own way and allows others to move at their own pace

not that courtesy isn't nice, but let's not expect tears of gratitude from someone who might not have wanted anyone to involve themselves in her entry into a building.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 7 5:24:52 PST 2003 by XxAxX]

XxAxX said:

Damned if we do, damned if we don't! I also give an acknowledgement wave to a person in a car when they stop to let me get into traffic. Maybe it's just the crazy way i think :O Also to clear up a possible misunderstanding,Rumpofsteelskin and Dumbass, i understood they were jokes(and still think they are funny) and i wasn't calling you two guys monsters. I was talking about the guys who ARE a problem to society in general with issues about women.