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Reply #30 posted 02/06/03 12:49pm

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mdiver said:

You know what soon it will be illegal or upset someone if you laugh at anything.
If you don't like it don't watch/read/listen to it.



Gee, clever and original. rolleyes
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Reply #31 posted 02/06/03 1:46pm

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June7 said:

AAARGH. headache

U may have a point there. Damn! mad

okay... I'll change the title.

Badass. Thanks June. (Although I'm wondering why you took the cunt out of the title and left it in the text of the thread?)
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #32 posted 02/06/03 1:47pm

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MrBliss said:

can you please not use the term *&$#@(^!!' ... i find it offensive ...smile





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I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #33 posted 02/06/03 2:12pm

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You might as well complain that Ali G is misogynist & racist, or Alan Partridge. Have you never seen Dame Edna before?
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Reply #34 posted 02/06/03 2:26pm

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June7 said:

mdiver said:

You know what soon it will be illegal or upset someone if you laugh at anything.
If you don't like it don't watch/read/listen to it.



Gee, clever and original. rolleyes


Wrong thread- you are looking for sarcasm lol

Seriously it pisses me off that everyone moans the moment anyone expresses an opinion on anything.
You want freedom- then every gets it!

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Reply #35 posted 02/06/03 3:28pm

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mdiver said:

June7 said:

mdiver said:

You know what soon it will be illegal or upset someone if you laugh at anything.
If you don't like it don't watch/read/listen to it.



Gee, clever and original. rolleyes


Wrong thread- you are looking for sarcasm lol

Seriously it pisses me off that everyone moans the moment anyone expresses an opinion on anything.
You want freedom- then every gets it!

innocent


No!!! In my world it's do as I say, not as I do. (btw - this bugs the shit outta my kids!)

Hey look at the moaning my "expressed opinion" got!!! Yet, I stand by my opinions...however misled they may appear 2 b! wink

(edit: I screwed up, and it's Dame Edna's fault! evil)
[This message was edited Thu Feb 6 15:31:45 PST 2003 by June7]
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Reply #36 posted 02/06/03 3:30pm

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June7 said:

AAARGH. headache

U may have a point there. Damn! mad

okay... I'll change the title.

Badass. Thanks June. (Although I'm wondering why you took the cunt out of the title and left it in the text of the thread?)


Okay... okay. I didn't think u'd notice! lol

Done, and done! wink
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Reply #37 posted 02/06/03 3:36pm

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June7 said:

Natsume said:

June7 said:

AAARGH. headache

U may have a point there. Damn! mad

okay... I'll change the title.

Badass. Thanks June. (Although I'm wondering why you took the cunt out of the title and left it in the text of the thread?)


Okay... okay. I didn't think u'd notice! lol

Done, and done! wink

lol

I am more perceptive than you may think!

Thanks buddy hug
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #38 posted 02/06/03 3:38pm

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add her to the list. right next to Abraham Lincoln.
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Reply #39 posted 02/06/03 6:12pm

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She was not or never had been in favor
of setting r jewels free
if it wasn't 4 the 11th appendage
we woulda been born in laboratory
She was not or never had been in favor
of living your life wig free so u c...
Thad damn Dame Edna was a racist who said
"U cannot find shoes in Albania"
[This message was edited Thu Feb 6 18:13:49 PST 2003 by Aerogram]
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Reply #40 posted 02/06/03 7:43pm

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disbelief
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #41 posted 02/06/03 7:49pm

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bkw said:

Aerogram said:

Let's not speak ill of bkw's auntie, lest I would rewrite Avalanche.

Did you know that the fictional character Dame Edna comes from my suburb in Melbourne?...lol

Btw, June 7, her character is supposed to be one of those biggoted old ladies. You do know she is a characture dont you?


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Reply #42 posted 02/07/03 10:29am

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Aerogram said:

She was not or never had been in favor
of setting r jewels free
if it wasn't 4 the 11th appendage
we woulda been born in laboratory
She was not or never had been in favor
of living your life wig free so u c...
Thad damn Dame Edna was a racist who said
"U cannot find shoes in Albania"
[This message was edited Thu Feb 6 18:13:49 PST 2003 by Aerogram]



She was not, or never had been a woman
But uses words like thus, thou and thee
If it wasn't 4 latest racist statement
I could give a fuck where she b
She has not, or never has been funny
Some may think so, though, but not 2 me, u see...
That ugly bitch Dame Edna is a racist
But, some still call it a comedy...


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Reply #43 posted 02/07/03 10:37am

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Okay June7. I respect your right to your own opinion, I just don't agree. I was actually just trying to address your complaints. Do you really, honestly, beilieve that Barry Humphries was serious? Do you not see that this is part of the act with this character, regardless of whether or not you find it funny? Not flamin', I'm just curious to know if you really believe that this was intended as a serious attack on Latinos.
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Reply #44 posted 02/07/03 10:59am

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It's like saying you think that whatshername
who plays Karen in Will & Grace is racist
for the same reason.
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Reply #45 posted 02/07/03 11:10am

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JediMaster, I know u mean well, so I know u're not "flaming" me.

From what I know of this character that Barry portrays as Dame Edna, it's not something I am in2 anyway. 2 further portray her "comedic arrogance" in a magazine that caters 2 supposedly everyone, was over the line. (imo)

As I said, there's a time and place 4 everything... I didn't think the forum she was given was the place 4 her brand of race-bashing.

Then again, had I been at a comedy club, sippin' my 7'n7, I may have felt differently. Then again, u have 2 consider where u're coming from... Now, I don't know ur ethnicity, but I'm assuming u're caucasion. This may b hilarious 2 u, having only 2 deal with it as a now and again joke.

4 a Latino, Black, Egyptian or Asian - or anyone of "color" 4 that matter, it gets tired and old.

I can't tell u how many times I've been online, in a chat, and others notice the conversation... perhaps questions of race come out and soon a few latinos r talking 'bout latino topics, or maybe their ID has a latino word in it... whatever, next u'll hear someone else say things like, "the hotels are closed, look at all the Mexicans in here, who's makin' the beds???", or "who's doing my garden? all the Mexicans r in here?" "What, there's no more work in the fields?" ...shit like that...

It gets old. Maybe u're right. Maybe I'm being overly sensitive. Maybe it was the 5th racist thing I read that day and I was sick of it...

I know that when I started this thread, I was reacting 2 something I had just received... I was somewhat irritated and therefore, venting. Afterwards, u'll notice, I too started joking around and lightening up.

Overall - she's probably no more racist than u or I... but her audience is bigger. There's more chance of me hearing or reading something "she" said than me hearing or reading it from the average joe. And - if said enuff, it starts 2 become more of a personality trait than comedy relief.

As I've said before, I never really found her humor 2 b funny 2 begin with... so, this was just "icing on the cake" that she (or Barry) blurted out this tirade against latinos... in a forum that I found unexcusable. (And I'm sure I'm not alone in this.)

In any case - it's fine. What makes me laugh might not b what makes u laugh. But I do like the Star Wars movies! wink
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Reply #46 posted 02/07/03 11:11am

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BorisFishpaw said:

It's like saying you think that whatshername
who plays Karen in Will & Grace is racist
for the same reason.


No - because she loves her some Rosario!!! lol
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Reply #47 posted 02/07/03 11:30am

GIOVANNI

there was a story in a magazine in chicago called the onion about a latino family got thier picture in a magazine and thought they were famous but thier picture was in an article about illegal aliens and how they are ruining the economy with cheap illegal labor
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Reply #48 posted 02/07/03 11:34am

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no one should ever apologize for satire. or any other type of comedy. have the balls before hand to take the heat or don't do it. just don't puss out after the fact.
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Reply #49 posted 02/07/03 3:05pm

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June7 said:

Aerogram said:

She was not or never had been in favor
of setting r jewels free
if it wasn't 4 the 11th appendage
we woulda been born in laboratory
She was not or never had been in favor
of living your life wig free so u c...
Thad damn Dame Edna was a racist who said
"U cannot find shoes in Albania"
[This message was edited Thu Feb 6 18:13:49 PST 2003 by Aerogram]



She was not, or never had been a woman
But uses words like thus, thou and thee
If it wasn't 4 latest racist statement
I could give a fuck where she b
She has not, or never has been funny
Some may think so, though, but not 2 me, u see...
That ugly bitch Dame Edna is a racist
But, some still call it a comedy...


wink


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Reply #50 posted 02/10/03 6:58am

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June7 said:

JediMaster, I know u mean well, so I know u're not "flaming" me.

From what I know of this character that Barry portrays as Dame Edna, it's not something I am in2 anyway. 2 further portray her "comedic arrogance" in a magazine that caters 2 supposedly everyone, was over the line. (imo)

As I said, there's a time and place 4 everything... I didn't think the forum she was given was the place 4 her brand of race-bashing.

Then again, had I been at a comedy club, sippin' my 7'n7, I may have felt differently. Then again, u have 2 consider where u're coming from... Now, I don't know ur ethnicity, but I'm assuming u're caucasion. This may b hilarious 2 u, having only 2 deal with it as a now and again joke.

4 a Latino, Black, Egyptian or Asian - or anyone of "color" 4 that matter, it gets tired and old.

I can't tell u how many times I've been online, in a chat, and others notice the conversation... perhaps questions of race come out and soon a few latinos r talking 'bout latino topics, or maybe their ID has a latino word in it... whatever, next u'll hear someone else say things like, "the hotels are closed, look at all the Mexicans in here, who's makin' the beds???", or "who's doing my garden? all the Mexicans r in here?" "What, there's no more work in the fields?" ...shit like that...

It gets old. Maybe u're right. Maybe I'm being overly sensitive. Maybe it was the 5th racist thing I read that day and I was sick of it...

I know that when I started this thread, I was reacting 2 something I had just received... I was somewhat irritated and therefore, venting. Afterwards, u'll notice, I too started joking around and lightening up.

Overall - she's probably no more racist than u or I... but her audience is bigger. There's more chance of me hearing or reading something "she" said than me hearing or reading it from the average joe. And - if said enuff, it starts 2 become more of a personality trait than comedy relief.

As I've said before, I never really found her humor 2 b funny 2 begin with... so, this was just "icing on the cake" that she (or Barry) blurted out this tirade against latinos... in a forum that I found unexcusable. (And I'm sure I'm not alone in this.)

In any case - it's fine. What makes me laugh might not b what makes u laugh. But I do like the Star Wars movies! wink


Okay, I see your point. I just think the Dame Edna character is parodying the very attitude that's bugging you. In other words, Barry Humphries, through the character of Dame Edna, is mocking the rather limited view of hispanics that many white folks have. Think of the character as being similar to Archie Bunker, who was also a parody of the racist. Personally, I find Dame Edna quite funny, because of the way that it subtly mocks those who are too rich for their own good. I got a big kick out of seeing her host the Queen's jubilee concert, since she acted like she was more important to English soceity than the Queen herself! Still, you are entitled to your own opinion, and I totally respect your viewpoint.
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Reply #51 posted 02/10/03 3:54pm

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Thank u... same here. smile
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Reply #52 posted 02/10/03 5:01pm

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You might as well complain that Ali G is misogynist & racist, or Alan Partridge. Have you never seen Dame Edna before?


Dame Edna is funny - Ali G is not. The Ali G movie is the the only film I have walked out of in my life. It was completely and utterly offensive.
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Reply #53 posted 02/10/03 5:06pm

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Both Ali G and Dame Edna (Barry Humphries) are funny. You are a myopic fool if you think they are racist.
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Reply #54 posted 02/10/03 8:23pm

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mrdespues said:

Both Ali G and Dame Edna (Barry Humphries) are funny. You are a myopic fool if you think they are racist.



dont be devil-lish mr.after mr.green






and is dame edna that big fat ugly playdough lookin' fool who does the old navy commerical?
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Reply #55 posted 02/10/03 8:27pm

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mrdespues said:

Both Ali G and Dame Edna (Barry Humphries) are funny. You are a myopic fool if you think they are racist.



dont be devil-lish mr.after mr.green






and is dame edna that big fat ugly playdough lookin' fool who does the old navy commerical?





Er, no. At least, I don't think so. In the States Barry Humphries has appeared as Dame Edna on the Jay Leno show as a guest and probably a few others shows like that, too.

At least people seemed to get the joke on that show, unlike this thread. disbelief
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Reply #56 posted 02/10/03 8:27pm

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Christopher said:

mrdespues said:

Both Ali G and Dame Edna (Barry Humphries) are funny. You are a myopic fool if you think they are racist.



dont be devil-lish mr.after mr.green






and is dame edna that big fat ugly playdough lookin' fool who does the old navy commerical?

Here you go:

When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #57 posted 02/10/03 8:31pm

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bkw said:

Christopher said:

mrdespues said:

Both Ali G and Dame Edna (Barry Humphries) are funny. You are a myopic fool if you think they are racist.



dont be devil-lish mr.after mr.green






and is dame edna that big fat ugly playdough lookin' fool who does the old navy commerical?

Here you go:






thank you bkw... how lovely
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