Hello fellow orgers...

I have to ask.

Do you find a woman with brains appealing? Women with college degrees or studying in university? Women in high positions in their careers...or even women who are just smarter than average.

Are you intimidated by a a smart woman? How do you feel around one?

Discuss

[Edited 3/10/11 22:15pm]

I have a Marketing Diploma but never used it.... i don't even consider myself to be intellectual...

but i know i'm street smart i self taught myself what i do for work and run the show there....

i find that it all means nothing when i'm interacting with ppl as i shy away from conversations mainly because of lack of knowledge as to what is being discussed.... i have spent 16 years being a mum and feel like i've lost touch with things today.... and because of that i think i am so uninteresting...

i need to go out more, read up on a few things, meet more ppl etc.... catch up with life

to be honest intelligence does not make u interesting…. It’s more about personality and your outlook on life….

and also different ppl find different things interesting…. Some ppl may think it’s boring…. others think it’s great

I love intellectual women, who on one side do have that simple, sheer, feminine, breath-taking, lady-like, stunning beauty, but on the other side possess the necessary intelligence to come up with brilliant ideas, to be an inspiration, to be funny, smart, to think out of the norm and have a world-view of their own, without being one of those pseudo-intellectual, men-hating feminists or career-obsessed, nothing-else-matters, pseudo-tough suit women that look like and behave like barrater-grannies in their mid-twenties already.

So, to put it short: In my eyes, a woman can not be beautiful without being intelligent and I simply love challenging intellectualness in a woman, but I could not care less about diplomas and degrees and am not at all impressed by a stunning career (of a woman or a man, for that matter), because it usually simply shows that they are hard-working, persistent and that they don't think about many different things than their career.

This reminds me of something funny my dad told me. My parents met while they were attending Tuskegee Institute (it's Tuskegee University now). They married during WWII and were very much in love at that time, but over the years, things began to go sour. They wouldn't physically fight, but sometimes they would argue about money. I don't know why because both of them could squeeze a dollar until the president hollared. Anyway, I remember asking my dad why he married Mom because they are so different. He said, "Your mama is smart. I can't stand no dumb, stupid ass woman!"

I'm not intimitated by intelligence or by women in general. I love talking and listening (which I hear is kind of rare)

I respect anyone that expresses how they feel. High education is not a must have at all for me, but if they're passionate about their studies I support that. I support their dreams period.

I met a guy once, who told me that no guy wants a "woman who thinks she knows everything."

I refuse to "dumb down" for anyone...

I worked hard to get the education that I have, and I'm proud of it.

chocolate1 said:

I met a guy once, who told me that no guy wants a "woman who thinks she knows everything."

I refuse to "dumb down" for anyone...

I worked hard to get the education that I have, and I'm proud of it.

You should be. That dude sounds crazy. lol.

NMuzakNSoul said:

chocolate1 said:

I met a guy once, who told me that no guy wants a "woman who thinks she knows everything."

I refuse to "dumb down" for anyone...

I worked hard to get the education that I have, and I'm proud of it.

You should be. That dude sounds crazy. lol.

Well, but there's a huge different between a woman who thinks she knows everything and a woman who actually knows everything (a lot). I love the latter, but can't stand the first.

(I am not talking about chocolate1 specifically, so please do not feel offended!)

Dave1992 said:

I love intellectual women, who on one side do have that simple, sheer, feminine, breath-taking, lady-like, stunning beauty, but on the other side possess the necessary intelligence to come up with brilliant ideas, to be an inspiration, to be funny, smart, to think out of the norm and have a world-view of their own, without being one of those pseudo-intellectual, men-hating feminists or career-obsessed, nothing-else-matters, pseudo-tough suit women that look like and behave like barrater-grannies in their mid-twenties already.

So, to put it short: In my eyes, a woman can not be beautiful without being intelligent and I simply love challenging intellectualness in a woman, but I could not care less about diplomas and degrees and am not at all impressed by a stunning career (of a woman or a man, for that matter), because it usually simply shows that they are hard-working, persistent and that they don't think about many different things than their career.

I agree with the bolded part. I don't agree though that a woman cannot be beautiful without being intelligent. She may be an annoying beauty then and maybe not sexy as being dumb can be a huge turn off, but she'd still be a beauty.

And your description of these young people who act and look like grannies reminds me that I got that impression when I was studying law and that it scared me a lot because I was afraid I might turn out like that too and I realized that I didn't really fit there .

chocolate1 said:

I met a guy once, who told me that no guy wants a "woman who thinks she knows everything."

I refuse to "dumb down" for anyone...

I worked hard to get the education that I have, and I'm proud of it.

Well, honestly, I don't want to be around anyone who thinks they know everything. I think one truth about real intellect and/or an education that has truly sunk in is that the more one knows, the more they know how much they don't know. What I find wildly attractive in a person -- male or female -- is a tempering of wicked smarts with that kind of humility and space to always learn more.

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Dave1992 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

You should be. That dude sounds crazy. lol.

Well, but there's a huge different between a woman who thinks she knows everything and a woman who actually knows everything (a lot). I love the latter, but can't stand the first.

(I am not talking about chocolate1 specifically, so please do not feel offended!)

If a person acts as if he knows everything it's more a trait of the personality and hasn't got anything to do with knowing much.

And I am not talking about Lynn either. In her case that guy probably had self esteem issues .

I know it's not fair at all, but a dumb woman is much more a turn off for me than a not that intelligent man .

chocolate1 said:

I met a guy once, who told me that no guy wants a "woman who thinks she knows everything."

I refuse to "dumb down" for anyone...

I worked hard to get the education that I have, and I'm proud of it.

No woman should pretend to be less than she is. Absolutely.

Though I will say, there's a difference between being intelligent and being a know-it-all.

Dave1992 said:

I love intellectual women, who on one side do have that simple, sheer, feminine, breath-taking, lady-like, stunning beauty, but on the other side possess the necessary intelligence to come up with brilliant ideas, to be an inspiration, to be funny, smart, to think out of the norm and have a world-view of their own, without being one of those pseudo-intellectual, men-hating feminists or career-obsessed, nothing-else-matters, pseudo-tough suit women that look like and behave like barrater-grannies in their mid-twenties already.

So, to put it short: In my eyes, a woman can not be beautiful without being intelligent and I simply love challenging intellectualness in a woman, but I could not care less about diplomas and degrees and am not at all impressed by a stunning career (of a woman or a man, for that matter), because it usually simply shows that they are hard-working, persistent and that they don't think about many different things than their career.

Brilliant post

Oxymoron

I invented a new dance move while posting this.

Dave1992 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

You should be. That dude sounds crazy. lol.

Well, but there's a huge different between a woman who thinks she knows everything and a woman who actually knows everything (a lot). I love the latter, but can't stand the first.

(I am not talking about chocolate1 specifically, so please do not feel offended!)

I see what you're saying. Point taken!

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Lammastide said:

chocolate1 said:

I met a guy once, who told me that no guy wants a "woman who thinks she knows everything."

I refuse to "dumb down" for anyone...

I worked hard to get the education that I have, and I'm proud of it.

Well, honestly, I don't want to be around anyone who thinks they know everything. I think one truth about real intellect and an education that has truly sunk in is that the more one knows, the more they know how much they don't know. What I find wildly attractive in a person -- male or female -- is a tempering of exposure with that kind of humility and space to always learn more.[Edited 3/11/11 9:11am]

Indeed.

And true intelligence has nothing/very little to do with (high) education. It's way more complex and lifeful. But so many people can't see that.

I know there's a difference... I just wanted to show how intelligent women can be perceived. Do we perceive intelligent men that way?

I dig big tits, big coochies, big asses, big thighs, big smiles and big brains...

JoeTyler said:

I dig big tits, big coochies, big asses, big thighs, big smiles and big brains...

Yes mane.

Aelis said:

Lammastide said:

Well, honestly, I don't want to be around anyone who thinks they know everything. I think one truth about real intellect and an education that has truly sunk in is that the more one knows, the more they know how much they don't know. What I find wildly attractive in a person -- male or female -- is a tempering of exposure with that kind of humility and space to always learn more.[Edited 3/11/11 9:11am]

Indeed.

And true intelligence has nothing/very little to do with (high) education. It's way more complex and lifeful. But so many people can't see that.

It's true. Sounds like a cliché, but I've truly met some of the dumbest people I know in grad school; and some of the most brilliant wasting away on street corners.

...Now, which of the two groups is wiser (a matter of application) is another discussion.

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chocolate1 said:

I know there's a difference... I just wanted to show how intelligent women can be perceived. Do we perceive intelligent men that way?

I do.

I despise intellectual haughtiness and tyranny -- and males have been the worst perpetrators of that through history.

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Serious said:

Dave1992 said:

I love intellectual women, who on one side do have that simple, sheer, feminine, breath-taking, lady-like, stunning beauty, but on the other side possess the necessary intelligence to come up with brilliant ideas, to be an inspiration, to be funny, smart, to think out of the norm and have a world-view of their own, without being one of those pseudo-intellectual, men-hating feminists or career-obsessed, nothing-else-matters, pseudo-tough suit women that look like and behave like barrater-grannies in their mid-twenties already.

So, to put it short: In my eyes, a woman can not be beautiful without being intelligent and I simply love challenging intellectualness in a woman, but I could not care less about diplomas and degrees and am not at all impressed by a stunning career (of a woman or a man, for that matter), because it usually simply shows that they are hard-working, persistent and that they don't think about many different things than their career.

I agree with the bolded part. I don't agree though that a woman cannot be beautiful without being intelligent. She may be an annoying beauty then and maybe not sexy as being dumb can be a huge turn off, but she'd still be a beauty.

And your description of these young people who act and look like grannies reminds me that I got that impression when I was studying law and that it scared me a lot because I was afraid I might turn out like that too and I realized that I didn't really fit there .

Yes, she might be good-looking and therefor considered a beauty, but, like I said, in my eyes, a woman is a turn-off as a whole if her head's as hollow as a square metre of vacuum, no matter how beautiful the ass and how pouty the lips...

Lammastide said:

Aelis said:

Indeed.

And true intelligence has nothing/very little to do with (high) education. It's way more complex and lifeful. But so many people can't see that.

It's true. Sounds like a cliché, but I've truly met some of the dumbest people I know in grad school; and some of the most brilliant wasting away on street corners.

Preach it! To me, intelligence means nothing without common sense and street smarts.

Lammastide said:

Aelis said:

Indeed.

And true intelligence has nothing/very little to do with (high) education. It's way more complex and lifeful. But so many people can't see that.

It's true. Sounds like a cliché, but I've truly met some of the dumbest people I know in grad school; and some of the most brilliant wasting away on street corners.

...Now, which of the two groups is wiser (a matter of application) is another discussion.

[Edited 3/11/11 9:33am]

I see your point.

I like to think that true intelligence can be partly explained as awareness and those that are really intelligent simply know how to live, they know when and how to adapt to the society never losing the qualities that make them stand out. But it has nothing to do with being cunning, there's not much life in that. Just like there's not much life in studying without thinking for oneself, accepting without questioning everything we hear, doing well on one of those IQ tests and being considered incredibly smart, memorising huge amounts of information and so on. Intelligence should somehow be life at its purest. Of course, this is just my personal opinion.

JoeTyler said:

I dig big tits, big coochies, big asses, big thighs, big smiles and big brains...

I love smart women, I prefer to be around smart women.

Educational level doesn't really matter, because there's plenty of really bright people who never went to college (or even finished high school). My own mother was really, really bright and she didn't attend college.

The smarter........the better.

chocolate1 said:

I met a guy once, who told me that no guy wants a "woman who thinks she knows everything."

I refuse to "dumb down" for anyone...

I worked hard to get the education that I have, and I'm proud of it.

Well, he was a misogynistic asshole! You are better off without him.

Hey everyone! Thanks for responding!

By a woman with a college degree...I don't necessarily mean a woman needs to get a high end education to be smart. But for those that do, would you still find them appealing?