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Reply #60 posted 02/06/03 8:54pm

GIOVANNI

yeah - my fat good for nothin bitch mom uses it as an excuse to be a fat lazy wothless mother and gossip and not have to take balme for anything she does


wave Hi MOM!
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Reply #61 posted 02/07/03 10:33am

JediMaster

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mrdespues said:

shausler said:

JediMaster said:

shausler said:

im schizophrenic and so am i


Sorry Shaus, but I'm gonna use your posting to correct a big misconception in our soceity. Schizophrenia and Multiple Personality Disorder are two completely different illnesses. Schizophrenia is a psychosis, while MPD is a neurosis. Schizophrenia is often mistaken for MPD, since the victim can seem to have a split personality (they often seem fine, but then suddenly flip out and start behaving erratically). This is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, which causes these personality "shifts".

MPD, on the other hand, is almost universally caused by a traumatic event in childhood. The victim creates various pesonalities in order to protect themselves from painful memories and events. This is a form of dissociation, and does not appear to be brought on by any sort of chemical imbalance. The victim is deflecting trauma away from them, quite simply.

The two illnesses are oppsite ends of the psychological spectrum. One is an actual physiological condition, while the other is purely psychological.


thanks for clearing that up

im very up on the multiple persona thing

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Actually I was talking to two psychologists today and they told me that Multiple Personality Disorder is actually more of a fiction than a reality. I was surprised, but they said it doesn't exist in the real world and no one gets diagnosed with it. It is a product of Hollywood.


Well, this is actually a hot debate in the field of psychology right now. You are right that many psychologist feel that MPD is not a real disorder, but simply an attention getting ploy from some people. I fall in-between on this issue. I personally feel that there are cases of it, but I do believe that the vast majority are hoaxes. Certain cases do seem to be authentic. In a few instances, psychiatrists have studied the brainwaves of some particularly pronounced individuals, and noticed that they radically changed when the patient shifted into a different personality.

Now, I wouldn't go so far as to say that NO ONE gets diagnosed with it, or that it is simply a product of Hollywood, but it is truly rare. Most cases are dismissed as fakes almost from the get go. It is truly rare in adults, being a childhood defense mechanism. Of course, with any disorder that doesn't stem from a biological cause, it is difficult to pin down the particulars. It winds up being very subjective since the problem is, quite literally, all in the patient's head
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #62 posted 02/07/03 11:20am

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I'm sorry but I don't know anything about it cry
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Reply #63 posted 02/07/03 11:21am

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I'm sorry but I don't know anything about it cry


Me neither razz
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Reply #64 posted 02/07/03 3:16pm

mrdespues

JediMaster said:

Well, this is actually a hot debate in the field of psychology right now. You are right that many psychologist feel that MPD is not a real disorder, but simply an attention getting ploy from some people. I fall in-between on this issue. I personally feel that there are cases of it, but I do believe that the vast majority are hoaxes. Certain cases do seem to be authentic. In a few instances, psychiatrists have studied the brainwaves of some particularly pronounced individuals, and noticed that they radically changed when the patient shifted into a different personality.

Now, I wouldn't go so far as to say that NO ONE gets diagnosed with it, or that it is simply a product of Hollywood, but it is truly rare. Most cases are dismissed as fakes almost from the get go. It is truly rare in adults, being a childhood defense mechanism. Of course, with any disorder that doesn't stem from a biological cause, it is difficult to pin down the particulars. It winds up being very subjective since the problem is, quite literally, all in the patient's head


Thanks for your thoughts. May I ask on what authority you have this, though? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious. From what I have heard I agree with you anyway. The psychologists I spoke implied it was virtually non-existant, so much so as to be almost unheard of. I should have made that clear. The point is, most people think of schizophrenia and then they think of multiple personalities, and really many people's impressions of mental illness do come just from the movies and hearsay.
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Reply #65 posted 02/07/03 4:45pm

2the9s

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

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mrdespues said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This topic hits home!!!
In my opinion, there is nothing you can do for your friend.


So you're saying anyone with psychosis is beyond help? That's a load of bullshit, sorry.


Co-fucking-sign. There are a lot of very effective drugs out there. Clozaril for one.

Slip some in his alien burger one day then sit back and watch the magic.



What he was trying to say (i believe) is that he is tired. sad They tend to wear out those around them. It's difficult! There are times where you feel so worn down...


I know Muse, believe me. It is both emotionally and physically exhausting. I was just being humorous with my alien-burger comment. Humor was an important way for both of us to deal with this illness...


But I guess funnyness (sp?) can also be misunderstood. sad
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Reply #66 posted 04/19/03 3:11am

Muse2noPharaoh

Bumped for Pej! I think we covered the subject well! Hope this helps you!

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Reply #67 posted 04/19/03 12:56pm

XxAxX

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the responses on here were reaqlly helpful to me. i benefited from hearing what other people had to say about being in this situation. the http://www.nami.org/ website was the best reference as far as data.

not that it resolved the situation, but i did take the advice on how to deal with it. hope things work out if you're needing this resource
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Reply #68 posted 06/30/03 2:10pm

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

Bumped for Pej! I think we covered the subject well! Hope this helps you!

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WOW!!! I never saw this until today and I think it will be helpful!!! Thanks so much Muse!!!
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