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Reply #90 posted 03/02/11 1:57pm

Spinlight

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NDRU said:

Spinlight said:

Righto, buddy. Point me in the direction of someone with bad teeth from smoking marijuana.

not bad teeth like a crack smoker, no, but my teeth had tar all over them when I smoked pot.

It cleans up after some months, but then, so does the tar in your lungs--assuming you stop in time. Tar all over your teeth cannot be beneficial to keeping them plaque free! lol

Who knows what the long term affect was, but in the short term, they looked fucked up!

I've never met a pot smoker with fucked up teeth who wasn't a crack or cig smoker as well (alright, no crack smokers).

Hell, you smoke much less cannabis than you do tobacco so that alone cuts the rate of staining down by about a billion percent.

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Reply #91 posted 03/02/11 1:57pm

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paintedlady said:



BklynBabe said:


I smoke and I can testify the smell on some people is nasty! Like coffee, for some it lingers on their breath. If I am in an enclosed room with a heavy smoker I can tell! Evidently I don't reek because most people don't even know I smoke unless they see me do it our catch me immediately after. You can febreze or use body spray and of course mints! I had asthma and luckily cigarettes are not one of my triggers, but I make a point to not smoke around asthmatics, children, or anyone who does not like it. Let me testify that it is an addiction, and since for many it's used as stress relief, that does make it harder to let go of. However the argument that it will kill you is beyond lame. We are all gonna die, one way or another. I could die in a car accident but I'm not gonna stop driving.... And maybe, for me I'm hoping it'll shorten my life on this fakeass planet filled with fakeass people. So anyway there's stuff people do that I don't like, lie, steal, kill; all I do is try to kill myself... How about talking to your girlfriend about why she smokes? If it's a stress issue, maybe you could relieve some of her stress, massages, be an exercise buddy, let her vent and not be judgmental. Maybe you are a source of stress and that's why she hasn't quit for you. I can testify that nagging me about my smoking has never helped and makes it worse. Bottom line is if you love her and want to be with her then you have to convince her that being with you is better than smoking. And if it's a dealbreaker for you be honest but not in a snide way. I have my dealbreakers too but I feel no need to slam it in peoples' faces. They say if you can get through the first 3 days cold turkey you have a chance and it takes about 3 weeks to kick or form a habit. Also there's a book that helped me, the easy way to stop smoking by Allen Carr, also a bunch of apps out there to help. Have you sat with her to work out a game plan? If I had people in my life to support me instead of get on my nerves I guarantee I would be a nonsmoker by now.

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Thanks PL! Trust me, i'm no advocate of smoking! It is a filthy habit. It's an addiction and I hate being an addict. But no one is perfect either. Some of us drink too much, or cuss, or overeat, or undereat, overfuck, etc. Instead of always being judgmental and pointing fingers, sometimes you have to stop and think, what is wrong with this society that you have so many people doing so many self-destructive behaviors. And why don't we try to help each other instead of bring each other down.
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Reply #92 posted 03/02/11 1:57pm

chocolate1

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Shyra said:

chocolate1 said:

Thanks, but that wasn't me....

I'm from the "can't stand it" camp. boxed

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duh See, the smoke done affected my damn brain cells! I meant BklynBabe. Y'alls my girls!

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Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #93 posted 03/02/11 2:09pm

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4 Pages long, I'm late and didn't read the responses so forgive me if I'm repeating shit that has been said.

Ugh, good luck. It's the hardest thing ever to quit smoking and you asking her to quit is not going to help her in any way shape or form. No one quits unless THEY want to.....and even THEN your almost gauranteed failure at some point.

I mean....it is possible, people do it......but not for someone else. lol They just don't. And once you quit its not like you're never going to go back to it. You have to make a concious effort not to.

When I started dating Todd I smoked and I told him about it right away. I was ashamed but wasn't gonna try to hide it, and really how can you hide that stench anyways......I was ashamed cuz I know how gross it is, but I wasn't willing to quit, so I was upfront with him. He said it was fine.

Well OF COURSSSSE after we were together sometime he would make little comments once in a while about it, and I told him right out, shut the fuck up, you knew when you met me I smoked, and I have no plans on quitting just yet.

So basically. Sorry to hear you're having this problem with your partner. I understand both sides. When I quit smoking the first time some years ago, as a non smoker I couldn't tolerate smokers. So yeah, it sucks, but if you wanna be with them ya gotta suck it up.

I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies
Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
It's not whats in the mirror but what's left inside
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Reply #94 posted 03/02/11 2:26pm

NDRU

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Spinlight said:

NDRU said:

not bad teeth like a crack smoker, no, but my teeth had tar all over them when I smoked pot.

It cleans up after some months, but then, so does the tar in your lungs--assuming you stop in time. Tar all over your teeth cannot be beneficial to keeping them plaque free! lol

Who knows what the long term affect was, but in the short term, they looked fucked up!

I've never met a pot smoker with fucked up teeth who wasn't a crack or cig smoker as well (alright, no crack smokers).

Hell, you smoke much less cannabis than you do tobacco so that alone cuts the rate of staining down by about a billion percent.

by "you" you certainly don't mean me! lol

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Reply #95 posted 03/02/11 3:04pm

Adorecream

Yes, it basically killed my mother along with breast cancer. My brother smokes and has the most apalling breath and rotting teeth and he's only 37. Everyone in my family smokes except me and I have always been opposed to it. Still i will probably die from inhaling second hand smoke. In New Zealand the Maori people (Of which I am one) apparently have the worst smoking statistics in the world. Its estimated that 55% of Maori women between 18 -65 smoke and 47% of Maori men, yet there have been anti smoking campaigns aimed at Maori since 1990 such as (Auahi Kore - Smoke Free) and smoking is banned in all bars, schools, theatres, planes and childcare centres, yet they still smoke like chimneys. Since 1990 the rate of smoking amongst non Maori Adults has dropped from 25 to 16%, yet maori rates have increased. We have dairies (Corner stores) that sell single smokes illegally, stories of children as young as 3 smoking and I myself want to see it banned for ever. Smoking has a social stigma here too, generally its seen that the lower classes and minorities smoke (Asian smoking rates are very high too).

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Reply #96 posted 03/03/11 5:42pm

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thanks for all the replys...i have read them all....its a tricky situation but ...hey...life is never smooth..is it... smile

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Reply #97 posted 03/04/11 1:41am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

CarrieMpls said:

I am a former smoker. All the clichés about smoking and quitting are true. It is harder to give up than heroin. She needs to quit for herself, not for you. Her smoking has absolutely nothing to do with you.

And I can guarantee you that deep down she wants to quit and she HATES that she hasn’t been able to already. It makes her feel weak and like a failure. So you harping on her about not quitting yet will only make her feel worse, which will impede any attempts on her part to quit.

Once I quit I never thought I’d date a smoker. But I fell in love and my bf smokes. He was trying to quit when we met and didn’t smoke around me hardly at all for the first few months. He’d wear the patch whenever we were together, wouldn’t smoke if I was in the car, etc. He even made a big attempt to quit in January and made it a month, but ultimately went back to smoking. I loooooooooooooved how much better he smelled and such and made sure to always tell him so. When he went back to smoking I was upset but I ultimately understood as I know how hard it is. He still talks about quitting again and has talked to his doctor about it as well. I know he will quit when he is ready. It just takes a long time to get there.

You need to decide what you can live with and what you can’t but if you want to stay with her and for her to quit smoking you need to be positive, supportive and encouraging.

I do hope that statement is one of the cliches about smoking, because that is utter nonsense.

I know a director of an addiction treatment centre. He says that nicotine is as addictive as heroin.

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Reply #98 posted 03/04/11 2:14am

Rightly

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my partner of 5 years now is a smoker...not heavy but about 10 - 15 a day....and i have always been a non smoker and have always hated it...not just because it is disgusting but for health reasons...my uncle died at an early age because of heavy smoking...

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the problem is that when we were talking 3 years ago about buying a house together and making a commitment...i was unsure because as far as i was concerned....the smoking put me off going near her and....i know this may sound silly to some people....it made me think twice about making a commitment to her because i knew it would affect the relationship...

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so i let her know that i was unsure about making a commitment and she promised me that she wanted to make a new start and if we bought the house together...she would give up smoking...it has been banned from public places in scotland now for a number of years and i thought all of this plus my support and a new start would be enough ...

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but it hasnt...she has never really stopped and ...now....it is badly affecting the relationship because i dont really want to kiss her or get close to her ...unless i am really ...well...you know....i had a crap relationship before and i wanted to have a close loving one this time and for life but now its just a so so one and i dont know what to do...

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should i just accept it as....i know....she was a smoker when i met and fell for her...

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or should i tell her she has broken her promises to me about making a new start and giving up the cancer sticks ??...

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i dont know....maybe i am making too much of a big deal out of it... confused

why don't you start smoking yourself?

it's not expensive cause you'll save money and buy less food.
You'll enjoy it

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I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #99 posted 03/04/11 1:35pm

Red

if it were me Bobby, I wouldn't subject myself to a smoking relationship. I've been on both ends. I smoked and had partners that didn't. I am now a NON-smoker and there is NO WAY I would ever entertain the concept of being with someone that did - no matter how much they made me laugh.

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Reply #100 posted 03/04/11 1:36pm

Red

if it were me Bobby, I wouldn't subject myself to a smoking relationship. I've been on both ends. I smoked and had partners that didn't. I am now a NON-smoker and there is NO WAY I would ever entertain the concept of being with someone that did - no matter how much they made me laugh.

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Reply #101 posted 03/04/11 1:36pm

Red

oopes sorry - don't understand the auto save.

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Reply #102 posted 03/04/11 1:37pm

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Rightly said:

blackbob said:

my partner of 5 years now is a smoker...not heavy but about 10 - 15 a day....and i have always been a non smoker and have always hated it...not just because it is disgusting but for health reasons...my uncle died at an early age because of heavy smoking...

.

the problem is that when we were talking 3 years ago about buying a house together and making a commitment...i was unsure because as far as i was concerned....the smoking put me off going near her and....i know this may sound silly to some people....it made me think twice about making a commitment to her because i knew it would affect the relationship...

.

so i let her know that i was unsure about making a commitment and she promised me that she wanted to make a new start and if we bought the house together...she would give up smoking...it has been banned from public places in scotland now for a number of years and i thought all of this plus my support and a new start would be enough ...

.

but it hasnt...she has never really stopped and ...now....it is badly affecting the relationship because i dont really want to kiss her or get close to her ...unless i am really ...well...you know....i had a crap relationship before and i wanted to have a close loving one this time and for life but now its just a so so one and i dont know what to do...

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should i just accept it as....i know....she was a smoker when i met and fell for her...

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or should i tell her she has broken her promises to me about making a new start and giving up the cancer sticks ??...

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i dont know....maybe i am making too much of a big deal out of it... confused

why don't you start smoking yourself?

it's not expensive cause you'll save money and buy less food.
You'll enjoy it

falloff evillol

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #103 posted 04/07/11 10:01pm

ANDROGYNUN

yuck

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Reply #104 posted 04/10/11 11:49am

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so much eye could say on this subject but try & keep it brief, a friend of mine who smokes 40|50 a day recently had a stroke.this stroke was caused by smoking.my pal is now blind in one eye & going blind in other eye,his left leg is fucked and he is now incontinent he can no longer drive his car & has been told the nxt stroke will kill him!! o yeh hes 40!!!!!! stop smoking people.

Dave Is Nuttier Than A Can Of Planters Peanuts...(Ottensen)
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Reply #105 posted 04/10/11 12:19pm

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It greatly increases the risk of lung cancer and is linked to it.

One may not get into a car accident from drinking and driving too, but it's the risk and likelihood of it happening that causes it to be taboo.

I think social pressure should be greatly applied to preventing people from taking up smoking as well as stronger public programs to help people quit.

I don't mind folks who want to continue as I've said before. So long as I don't have to smell them or they're not doing it in my face. I think smoking weed and fags is less offensive than folks drinking and getting behind the wheel of a car.

i think the risk is being highly exaggerated by the anti smoking lobby

Go hang out at a cancer hospital some time. If you have the guts.

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