JustErin said:

Lammastide said:

Galliano's problems get worse. He will be prosecuted...

Galliano to face court over racism allegation

05:19 AEST Thu Mar 3 2011

Superstar fashion designer John Galliano will appear before a French court between April and June of this year to answer allegations of racial or religious insults, prosecutors have said.

"Following an investigation, the Paris prosecutor's office announces John Galliano will be prosecuted by direct summons before the criminal court for public insults towards an individual on grounds of their origin or religion ... following complaints from three people," the office said.

From: http://news.ninemsn.com.a...id=8218855

You can be arrested for insulting someone???

I'm still trying to understand that one.

I mean, I get a hate crime, like if you assault someone physically and it comes with descriminatory slurrs. But I don't get the just calling someone something arrest thing.

JustErin said:

Lammastide said:

Galliano's problems get worse. He will be prosecuted...

Galliano to face court over racism allegation

05:19 AEST Thu Mar 3 2011

Superstar fashion designer John Galliano will appear before a French court between April and June of this year to answer allegations of racial or religious insults, prosecutors have said.

"Following an investigation, the Paris prosecutor's office announces John Galliano will be prosecuted by direct summons before the criminal court for public insults towards an individual on grounds of their origin or religion ... following complaints from three people," the office said.

From: http://news.ninemsn.com.a...id=8218855

You can be arrested for insulting someone???

That article is not the greatest for detail.

Not so much for insulting someone, but in France public anti-Semitic rants are punishable by up to 6 months in prison.

Lammastide said:

JustErin said:

You can be arrested for insulting someone???

That article is not the greatest for detail.

Not so much for insulting someone, but in France public anti-Semitic rants are punishable by up to 6 months in prison.

Just anti-semitic remarks? What about anti-black or anti-immigrant, and so on and so on?

johnart said:

JustErin said:

You can be arrested for insulting someone???

I'm still trying to understand that one.

I mean, I get a hate crime, like if you assault someone physically and it comes with descriminatory slurrs. But I don't get the just calling someone something arrest thing.

Seems a bit stiff to me, too. But I guess when your country has been taken over by Nazis recently enough that some of your neighbors can still remember it, you don't screw around.

JustErin said:

Lammastide said:

That article is not the greatest for detail.

Not so much for insulting someone, but in France public anti-Semitic rants are punishable by up to 6 months in prison.

Just anti-semitic remarks? What about anti-black or anti-immigrant, and so on and so on?

I dunno, Erin. I've wondered that, too.

JustErin said:

Lammastide said:

That article is not the greatest for detail.

Not so much for insulting someone, but in France public anti-Semitic rants are punishable by up to 6 months in prison.

Just anti-semitic remarks? What about anti-black or anti-immigrant, and so on and so on?

Well given the history here with World War 2, gassing of people's relatives and so on, the wounds from that era are still quite deep on this continent. Public rants of anti-semitism are against the law in Germany too, and wth good reason, don't you think? The holocaust is taken very seriously here, unlike my experience in North America where people like to sweep the issue of slave atrocities against my ancestors and the slaughtering of Native Americans under the rug... or pretend such things never happened in the first place. In any event, I suppose you would have to live here to understand why those laws exist. I do realize though, how cut & dry enough they appear when read on paper or a computer screen, and I can understand how it might give a person a WTF? moment. But when you actually live in the environment where so many millions were killed, and you walk the streets everyday where you have physical reminders of the war, your life becomes nuanced in a way where it makes all the sense in the world for those anti-semitism laws to be in place.

Ottensen said:

JustErin said:

Just anti-semitic remarks? What about anti-black or anti-immigrant, and so on and so on?

Well given the history here with World War 2, gassing of people's relatives and so on, the wounds from that era are still quite deep on this continent. Public rants of anti-semitism are against the law in Germany too, and wth good reason, don't you think? The holocaust is taken very seriously here, unlike my experience in North America where people like to sweep the issue of slave atrocities against my ancestors and the slaughtering of Native Americans under the rug... or pretend such things never happened in the first place. In any event, I suppose you would have to live here to understand why those laws exist. I do realize though, how cut & dry enough they appear when read on paper or a computer screen, and I can understand how it might give a person a WTF? moment. But when you actually live in the environment where so many millions were killed, and you walk the streets everyday where you have physical reminders of the war, your life becomes nuanced in a way where it makes all the sense in the world for those anti-semitism laws to be in place.

Well explained. We have these laws in Austria too and I am glad we do .

Ottensen said:

JustErin said:

Just anti-semitic remarks? What about anti-black or anti-immigrant, and so on and so on?

Well given the history here with World War 2, gassing of people's relatives and so on, the wounds from that era are still quite deep on this continent. Public rants of anti-semitism are against the law in Germany too, and wth good reason, don't you think? The holocaust is taken very seriously here, unlike my experience in North America where people like to sweep the issue of slave atrocities against my ancestors and the slaughtering of Native Americans under the rug... or pretend such things never happened in the first place. In any event, I suppose you would have to live here to understand why those laws exist. I do realize though, how cut & dry enough they appear when read on paper or a computer screen, and I can understand how it might give a person a WTF? moment. But when you actually live in the environment where so many millions were killed, and you walk the streets everyday where you have physical reminders of the war, your life becomes nuanced in a way where it makes all the sense in the world for those anti-semitism laws to be in place.

The weird thing is, it's spilled into whole other realms.

For example, the US-based clothing company I work for also operates in Germany. We had legal battles over there that lasted years because our return policy is better than anything offered in Germany. And, in Germany, it's against the law to claim to be better than anyone else - whether you're talking personally, or about a product or service. Even if you can prove it (as we could with our guarantee), it's still illegal.

So Germany is the one place we do business where we are not allowed to use our slogan - and we have a less liberal return policy there than we do anywhere else.

Genesia said:

Ottensen said:

Well given the history here with World War 2, gassing of people's relatives and so on, the wounds from that era are still quite deep on this continent. Public rants of anti-semitism are against the law in Germany too, and wth good reason, don't you think? The holocaust is taken very seriously here, unlike my experience in North America where people like to sweep the issue of slave atrocities against my ancestors and the slaughtering of Native Americans under the rug... or pretend such things never happened in the first place. In any event, I suppose you would have to live here to understand why those laws exist. I do realize though, how cut & dry enough they appear when read on paper or a computer screen, and I can understand how it might give a person a WTF? moment. But when you actually live in the environment where so many millions were killed, and you walk the streets everyday where you have physical reminders of the war, your life becomes nuanced in a way where it makes all the sense in the world for those anti-semitism laws to be in place.

The weird thing is, it's spilled into whole other realms.

For example, the US-based clothing company I work for also operates in Germany. We had legal battles over there that lasted years because our return policy is better than anything offered in Germany. And, in Germany, it's against the law to claim to be better than anyone else - whether you're talking personally, or about a product or service. Even if you can prove it (as we could with our guarantee), it's still illegal.

So Germany is the one place we do business where we are not allowed to use our slogan - and we have a less liberal return policy there than we do anywhere else.

This is where liberalism goes a bit bonkers IMO. I remember hearing on the news that there is a country in Europe where you can get fined for talking shit to a house plant. Yep, you bitch out that rosebush or tell a lemon tree to go suck it and you just better hope that no one over hears you there.

Yes, it hurts to be called names but unless the person calling me names is harassing me by following me around or calling me up repeatedly on my phone, I think just being an adult and growning a thicker skin is in order. Do they really have that much $$$$ as a country that they can afford to have name callers in jail being fed by tax payers?

Like I say, constant harassment is a different thing.

Deadflow3r said:

Genesia said:

The weird thing is, it's spilled into whole other realms.

For example, the US-based clothing company I work for also operates in Germany. We had legal battles over there that lasted years because our return policy is better than anything offered in Germany. And, in Germany, it's against the law to claim to be better than anyone else - whether you're talking personally, or about a product or service. Even if you can prove it (as we could with our guarantee), it's still illegal.

So Germany is the one place we do business where we are not allowed to use our slogan - and we have a less liberal return policy there than we do anywhere else.

This is where liberalism goes a bit bonkers IMO. I remember hearing on the news that there is a country in Europe where you can get fined for talking shit to a house plant. Yep, you bitch out that rosebush or tell a lemon tree to go suck it and you just better hope that no one over hears you there.

Yes, it hurts to be called names but unless the person calling me names is harassing me by following me around or calling me up repeatedly on my phone, I think just being an adult and growning a thicker skin is in order. Do they really have that much $$$$ as a country that they can afford to have name callers in jail being fed by tax payers?

Like I say, constant harassment is a different thing.

I agree. Folks should be able to say whatever they want, even if it's hateful. I'd rather have it out in the open anyway. At least I know what I'm dealing with.

uPtoWnNY said:

Deadflow3r said:

This is where liberalism goes a bit bonkers IMO. I remember hearing on the news that there is a country in Europe where you can get fined for talking shit to a house plant. Yep, you bitch out that rosebush or tell a lemon tree to go suck it and you just better hope that no one over hears you there.

Yes, it hurts to be called names but unless the person calling me names is harassing me by following me around or calling me up repeatedly on my phone, I think just being an adult and growning a thicker skin is in order. Do they really have that much $$$$ as a country that they can afford to have name callers in jail being fed by tax payers?

Like I say, constant harassment is a different thing.

I agree. Folks should be able to say whatever they want, even if it's hateful. I'd rather have it out in the open anyway. At least I know what I'm dealing with.

Exactly. I get firing somebodies ass when they are an employee and deal with your public. But Jail time?

I would rather know someone hated me for reasons that are cultural or religious or whatever then have them keep it a secret. That way I know that they are biased and my chances of winning them over are slim and I need no waste my time. If you don' t like me because of something I did well then I can explain myself or whatever, but if it is because of my upbringing or whatever - honey I have no time left on this planet to try and win you over. It is best I just simply ignore you and spend my time elsewhere.

Deadflow3r said:

Genesia said:

The weird thing is, it's spilled into whole other realms.

For example, the US-based clothing company I work for also operates in Germany. We had legal battles over there that lasted years because our return policy is better than anything offered in Germany. And, in Germany, it's against the law to claim to be better than anyone else - whether you're talking personally, or about a product or service. Even if you can prove it (as we could with our guarantee), it's still illegal.

So Germany is the one place we do business where we are not allowed to use our slogan - and we have a less liberal return policy there than we do anywhere else.

This is where liberalism goes a bit bonkers IMO. I remember hearing on the news that there is a country in Europe where you can get fined for talking shit to a house plant. Yep, you bitch out that rosebush or tell a lemon tree to go suck it and you just better hope that no one over hears you there.

Yes, it hurts to be called names but unless the person calling me names is harassing me by following me around or calling me up repeatedly on my phone, I think just being an adult and growning a thicker skin is in order. Do they really have that much $$$$ as a country that they can afford to have name callers in jail being fed by tax payers?

Like I say, constant harassment is a different thing.

It's an interesting conversation. But I don't think it has much to do with "liberalism." Rather, it has to do with what level of legal authoritarianism we're willing/needing to subject ourselves to. Where I'm from, equally intrusive laws enforce traditionally more "conservative" social positions: In Shaker Heights, Ohio, it's illegal to swear in the presence of a woman; in Oxford, Ohio, it's illegal for that woman to strip off her clothes in front of a man's picture; and all over Ohio, it's illegal for that woman to wear patent leather shoes in public (lest our fair state become a bastion of whoremongers). Sometimes, we just lose all common sense. Thank God we don't usually enforce those laws.

On the other hand, where we do see enforcement of quirky laws in places like Europe, it may beg the question: Do they know something about urging a civil society that we don't? What have they seen in their history that sets their priorities differently? And to the extent they don't have anywhere near the number of, say, incarcerated non-violent drug offenders, etc., maybe they have room not to obsess over the $$$ being spent to house violaters of things like hate speech, which they perhaps see as more of a threat.

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March 3, 2011 | 9:24 pm

The fashion world has been buzzing over the John Galliano scandal for days, but now that he's facing a trial over alleged anti-Semitic comments, celebs and those on the U.S. chat show circuit are pondering the designer's fate.

The women of "The View" discussed Dior's now-defunct leader on Wednesday, and moderator Whoopi Goldberg had some leniency for the designer, recently seen spewing love for Hitler and making shocking Holocaust jokes while imbibing at a Parisian cafe. (The comments captured on video were from a year ago; Galliano faces charges over a Feb. 24 incident at the same restaurant.)

"When you hear someone come off and they're [sober], and they're doing that -- then you can get on and say [that's anti-Semitism]," Goldberg said.

"When you have drunks, that's why drunks get their [butts] kicked all the time," she reasoned.

Barbara Walters disagreed, sticking by the old saying "in vino veritas": In wine there is truth.

"Sex and the City" costume designer Patricia Field put out a statement "In Praise of John Galliano" on Tuesday, said Women's Wear Daily, in which she asked "What is really going on here??" and chastised people in fashion for not seeing the "farce" in what she believes was him "acting out of character."

Back in Paris, Lady Gaga was asked about the topic while doing an interview with Thierry Mugler creative director Nicola Formichetti, a pal, after she walked in his Fashion Week presentation.

"Let's skip that question," Gaga said. "Let's keep it positive."

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March 3, 2011 | 9:24 pm

The fashion world has been buzzing over the John Galliano scandal for days, but now that he's facing a trial over alleged anti-Semitic comments, celebs and those on the U.S. chat show circuit are pondering the designer's fate.

The women of "The View" discussed Dior's now-defunct leader on Wednesday, and moderator Whoopi Goldberg had some leniency for the designer, recently seen spewing love for Hitler and making shocking Holocaust jokes while imbibing at a Parisian cafe. (The comments captured on video were from a year ago; Galliano faces charges over a Feb. 24 incident at the same restaurant.)

"When you hear someone come off and they're [sober], and they're doing that -- then you can get on and say [that's anti-Semitism]," Goldberg said.

"When you have drunks, that's why drunks get their [butts] kicked all the time," she reasoned.

Barbara Walters disagreed, sticking by the old saying "in vino veritas": In wine there is truth.

"Sex and the City" costume designer Patricia Field put out a statement "In Praise of John Galliano" on Tuesday, said Women's Wear Daily, in which she asked "What is really going on here??" and chastised people in fashion for not seeing the "farce" in what she believes was him "acting out of character."

Back in Paris, Lady Gaga was asked about the topic while doing an interview with Thierry Mugler creative director Nicola Formichetti, a pal, after she walked in his Fashion Week presentation.

"Let's skip that question," Gaga said. "Let's keep it positive."

I think Whoopi lost whatever credibility she might have had with respect to this sort of thing in 1993.

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March 3, 2011 | 9:24 pm

The fashion world has been buzzing over the John Galliano scandal for days, but now that he's facing a trial over alleged anti-Semitic comments, celebs and those on the U.S. chat show circuit are pondering the designer's fate.

The women of "The View" discussed Dior's now-defunct leader on Wednesday, and moderator Whoopi Goldberg had some leniency for the designer, recently seen spewing love for Hitler and making shocking Holocaust jokes while imbibing at a Parisian cafe. (The comments captured on video were from a year ago; Galliano faces charges over a Feb. 24 incident at the same restaurant.)

"When you hear someone come off and they're [sober], and they're doing that -- then you can get on and say [that's anti-Semitism]," Goldberg said.

"When you have drunks, that's why drunks get their [butts] kicked all the time," she reasoned.

Barbara Walters disagreed, sticking by the old saying "in vino veritas": In wine there is truth.

"Sex and the City" costume designer Patricia Field put out a statement "In Praise of John Galliano" on Tuesday, said Women's Wear Daily, in which she asked "What is really going on here??" and chastised people in fashion for not seeing the "farce" in what she believes was him "acting out of character."

Back in Paris, Lady Gaga was asked about the topic while doing an interview with Thierry Mugler creative director Nicola Formichetti, a pal, after she walked in his Fashion Week presentation.

"Let's skip that question," Gaga said. "Let's keep it positive."

I think Whoopi lost whatever credibility she might have had with respect to this sort of thing in 1993.

Ouch.

Lammastide said:

Genesia said:

I think Whoopi lost whatever credibility she might have had with respect to this sort of thing in 1993.

Ouch.

Well?

Do you think this would be a good time to sell my collection of Christian Dior watch and jewellery brochures?

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March 3, 2011 | 9:24 pm

The fashion world has been buzzing over the John Galliano scandal for days, but now that he's facing a trial over alleged anti-Semitic comments, celebs and those on the U.S. chat show circuit are pondering the designer's fate.

The women of "The View" discussed Dior's now-defunct leader on Wednesday, and moderator Whoopi Goldberg had some leniency for the designer, recently seen spewing love for Hitler and making shocking Holocaust jokes while imbibing at a Parisian cafe. (The comments captured on video were from a year ago; Galliano faces charges over a Feb. 24 incident at the same restaurant.)

"When you hear someone come off and they're [sober], and they're doing that -- then you can get on and say [that's anti-Semitism]," Goldberg said.

"When you have drunks, that's why drunks get their [butts] kicked all the time," she reasoned.

Barbara Walters disagreed, sticking by the old saying "in vino veritas": In wine there is truth.

"Sex and the City" costume designer Patricia Field put out a statement "In Praise of John Galliano" on Tuesday, said Women's Wear Daily, in which she asked "What is really going on here??" and chastised people in fashion for not seeing the "farce" in what she believes was him "acting out of character."

Back in Paris, Lady Gaga was asked about the topic while doing an interview with Thierry Mugler creative director Nicola Formichetti, a pal, after she walked in his Fashion Week presentation.

"Let's skip that question," Gaga said. "Let's keep it positive."

I think Whoopi lost whatever credibility she might have had with respect to this sort of thing in 1993.

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^ Exactly.

Genesia said:

TD3 said:

Read about this yesterdee so, they gave Gallinao the boot. Where does the House of Dior go from here?

Good question. Also very awkward that his collection is being presented on Friday - after he was fired. Will people shy away - or will it make his final pieces collectors' items?

Definitely collectibles.

But one can't be seen buying one, can one?

It's either an endorsement of the man or crass chasng of the collectibility and rewarding Galliano.

Genesia said:

Lammastide said:

So he was just drunk? Is that what it is? If so, amazing, the power of alcohol.

Part of me always wonders when people in such lofty positions do something that could instantly implode everything they have whether they do it on some level to sabotage themselves. I wonder, for example, if there's not some part of Galiano that's relieved to be let go from Dior.

Drunk and an anti-Semite.

If I recall correctly there were two public incidents? The first one wasn't recorded . . .

KoolEaze said:

Ottensen said:

...although I will say that I'm actually surprised he would say anything pro-German: usually when Europeans get drunk they start trashing each other to bits. i would have expected to to say Kraut Bastards before he went there on the anti-semite tip. It 's all totally confusing for me; as late as 1990 would see French Germans and Italians spit on each other before they would praise the vices or virtues of one another ....the fuck is wrong with this idiot? Did I miss something because he's Spanish descent (a country and culture in which racism has been on the rise at an alarming rate in Europe for the last decade=)...I was just walking past the Dior ads today featuring Natalie Portman; how on earth did he get to the point of being a Jew hater yet is he is the artistic voice of a global brand featuring an Israeli Jew as its' cosmetics muse???

Yeesh. All too much for me.

Some people are a walking contradiction. Especially gay people who use anti-semitic slurs...I mean, the Nazis killed ( and the neo-Nazis still kill ) gay people, that´s why I would take what he said with a grain of salt. The fact that what he said when he was drunk was clearly anti-semitic does not necessarily make him an anti-semite per se, unlike Mel Gibson, whose father is a notorious anti-semite (and considering the things that Mel said to those police officers).

By the way, a famous German neo-Nazis in the 1980s was also gay ( and later died of AIDS)even though his comrades were VERY homophobic. But being anti-semitic AND gay is a very unusual combination.

paintedlady said:

SCNDLS said:

Hell, I don't. Tommy and Ralph were innocent, this fucka ain't. I hope he never gets another paycheck but I'm sure he will.

Yup. I think Mel just found a new drinking buddy.

Double bonus because Mel will also drive you home . . .

SCNDLS said:

Whatever, dude, we got you on tape so save the drama for ya mama.

My sentiments exactly.

Deadflow3r said:

Genesia said:

The weird thing is, it's spilled into whole other realms.

For example, the US-based clothing company I work for also operates in Germany. We had legal battles over there that lasted years because our return policy is better than anything offered in Germany. And, in Germany, it's against the law to claim to be better than anyone else - whether you're talking personally, or about a product or service. Even if you can prove it (as we could with our guarantee), it's still illegal.

So Germany is the one place we do business where we are not allowed to use our slogan - and we have a less liberal return policy there than we do anywhere else.

This is where liberalism goes a bit bonkers IMO. I remember hearing on the news that there is a country in Europe where you can get fined for talking shit to a house plant. Yep, you bitch out that rosebush or tell a lemon tree to go suck it and you just better hope that no one over hears you there.

Yes, it hurts to be called names but unless the person calling me names is harassing me by following me around or calling me up repeatedly on my phone, I think just being an adult and growning a thicker skin is in order. Do they really have that much $$$$ as a country that they can afford to have name callers in jail being fed by tax payers?

Like I say, constant harassment is a different thing.

First of all, the house plant story is ludicrous. Anyone who would fall for that I daresay is a bit on the gullible side.

We're not just talking about name calling here: we're talking about a land that has a bloody history from the last century, with lives ruined and millions who were persecuted and executed due to hate speech. What we are speaking of is a far different animal here, one that does not compare to stalking or harrassment. How people cannot get that is simply beyond me

Ottensen said:

Deadflow3r said:

This is where liberalism goes a bit bonkers IMO. I remember hearing on the news that there is a country in Europe where you can get fined for talking shit to a house plant. Yep, you bitch out that rosebush or tell a lemon tree to go suck it and you just better hope that no one over hears you there.

Yes, it hurts to be called names but unless the person calling me names is harassing me by following me around or calling me up repeatedly on my phone, I think just being an adult and growning a thicker skin is in order. Do they really have that much $$$$ as a country that they can afford to have name callers in jail being fed by tax payers?

Like I say, constant harassment is a different thing.

First of all, the house plant story is ludicrous. Anyone who would fall for that I daresay is a bit on the gullible side.

We're not just talking about name calling here: we're talking about a land that has a bloody history from the last century, with lives ruined and millions who were persecuted and executed due to hate speech. What we are speaking of is a far different animal here, one that does not compare to stalking or harrassment. How people cannot get that is simply beyond me

Oops I thought I was on the playful General Discussion forum and not the smug, lets take everything too seriously and be smug about it to boot, PR forum. What the hell is going on with the org? I feel I am back on the Halle Berry thread with SCNDLS and truthfully I am over it. Ottensen you and your twin SCNDLS are the type of people I hate running into in real life (maybe your even the same orger,lol) and I don't need to be logging into prince.org to run so I can deal with your type here.

Honestly, if GD is going to be a bone serious forum, then other then Babble, random thought threads and Birthday threads, I am done with this place. I think I have finally had enough!

I'll miss the Australians and others who didn't need an LOL after everything to see that it was in jest. You and SCNDLS can go suck each others toes for all I care! I am done.

Deadflow3r said:

Ottensen said:

First of all, the house plant story is ludicrous. Anyone who would fall for that I daresay is a bit on the gullible side.

We're not just talking about name calling here: we're talking about a land that has a bloody history from the last century, with lives ruined and millions who were persecuted and executed due to hate speech. What we are speaking of is a far different animal here, one that does not compare to stalking or harrassment. How people cannot get that is simply beyond me

Oops I thought I was on the playful General Discussion forum and not the smug, lets take everything too seriously and be smug about it to boot, PR forum. What the hell is going on with the org? I feel I am back on the Halle Berry thread with SCNDLS and truthfully I am over it. Ottensen you and your twin SCNDLS are the type of people I hate running into in real life (maybe your even the same orger,lol) and I don't need to be logging into prince.org to run so I can deal with your type here.

Honestly, if GD is going to be a bone serious forum, then other then Babble, random thought threads and Birthday threads, I am done with this place. I think I have finally had enough!

I'll miss the Australians and others who didn't need an LOL after everything to see that it was in jest. You and SCNDLS can go suck each others toes for all I care! I am done.

... fuck it.

[Edited 3/10/11 9:03am]

shausler said:

Good riddance to a despicable piece of trash

he'll be back though... just like Mel.

Mel actually got off from serving any jail time for hitting his babymomma. he knocked her teeth out and he got NO jail time.

My guess is that Galliano will let this one blow over and get back to making pretty glad rags for the masses.