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Reply #30 posted 03/02/11 7:15am

Timmy84

johnart said:

KoolEaze said:

Some people are a walking contradiction. Especially gay people who use anti-semitic slurs...I mean, the Nazis killed ( and the neo-Nazis still kill ) gay people, that´s why I would take what he said with a grain of salt. The fact that what he said when he was drunk was clearly anti-semitic does not necessarily make him an anti-semite per se, unlike Mel Gibson, whose father is a notorious anti-semite (and considering the things that Mel said to those police officers).

By the way, a famous German neo-Nazis in the 1980s was also gay ( and later died of AIDS)even though his comrades were VERY homophobic. But being anti-semitic AND gay is a very unusual combination.

Hate is hate and ignorance is ignorance. Neither follow any rules or fits into any given molds.

Douchebags come in every color, religion and sexual orientation. sigh

yeahthat

Perez Hilton is one example of a douchebag. He and Galliano should get along real good. bored2

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Reply #31 posted 03/02/11 7:24am

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They should have fired his ass the day he wore this complete piece of crap excuse for fashion.

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Reply #32 posted 03/02/11 4:02pm

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Genesia said:

Deadflow3r said:

Yeah, that was a weird play by the House of Dior. If the buyers love the collection then that is a big "Yes your fantastic" to Galliano. If they ignore it then the house of dior looses $$$$$. It is a loose loose for the house, I'd say. Of course they keep their dignity so to speak.

Exactly. Damned if they do, damned if they don't all around.

As for Galliano, himself...I hope no one else picks him up. If he wants to spout that kind of thing, fine (I'm not the thought police). But I can't imagine any reputable organization allowing their image to be trashed by the likes of him.

No one will touch him with a ten foot pole. I have no clue what he said about the Jews but I do think that Neiman Marcus, many textile companies and God knows what else, is run or partly run by Jews and you'd have to be a fool to even associate yourself with this man in the fashion industry at this point. From what I remember Jews are as prevalent in the fashion industry as gay men. (Can you imagine Galiano keeping an assistant who made homophobic remarks?)

Sadly I think the man has done some wonderful collections in the past. Now I think wearing a Galiano design will be like wearing real tiger fur coat, and that includes wearing pieces from his past collections.

Hopefully the man has invested his past earnings well because he is about to head into an early retirement.

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Reply #33 posted 03/02/11 5:08pm

Timmy84

Cerebus said:

They should have fired his ass the day he wore this complete piece of crap excuse for fashion.

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lol

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Reply #34 posted 03/02/11 5:21pm

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Cerebus said:

They should have fired his ass the day he wore this complete piece of crap excuse for fashion.

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John Galliano

seriously, this is how Bruno got away with his joke for as long as he did! He's not as outrageous as the real thing.

These guys are so ridiculous, that is why I say nazis and fashion go hand in hand. Not that they hate jews specifically, but simply place clothing above all else (an absurd prioritization unless you are climbing Everest).

I remember Hilfiger was accused of saying people of color did not look good in his clothes. If he did not say it, someone else probably did.

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Reply #35 posted 03/02/11 5:28pm

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He'll move to Puerto Rico and put on a banana-shirt, get a new boyfriend and party with Ricky Martin and other Latinos since he'll blend in. He'll make tons of money on a new club he'll open in Brasil and or Miami.

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Reply #36 posted 03/02/11 5:28pm

Timmy84

Yeah Galliano wasn't the first to spouse some ignorant bullshit and I doubt he'll be the last. In fact, I'm not surprised. The fashion industry always had some racist fascists in it.

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Reply #37 posted 03/02/11 5:30pm

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Timmy84 said:

Yeah Galliano wasn't the first to spouse some ignorant bullshit and I doubt he'll be the last. In fact, I'm not surprised. The fashion industry always had some racist fascists in it.

Tommy and Ralph come to mind...

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Reply #38 posted 03/02/11 5:30pm

uPtoWnNY

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the thing about alcohol...is that it decreases one's inhibitions, and one winds up saying things that one is thinking, but usually has a filter not to say it aloud.

Alcohol is the great revealer. smile

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Reply #39 posted 03/02/11 5:32pm

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paintedlady said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah Galliano wasn't the first to spouse some ignorant bullshit and I doubt he'll be the last. In fact, I'm not surprised. The fashion industry always had some racist fascists in it.

Tommy and Ralph come to mind...

That stuff about Tommy was an urban myth tho. He never made racist remarks and actually got his start designing costumes for Earth Wind and Fire.

http://www.snopes.com/rac...lfiger.asp

[Edited 3/2/11 9:36am]

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Reply #40 posted 03/02/11 5:37pm

SCNDLS

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uPtoWnNY said:

BlackAdder7 said:

the thing about alcohol...is that it decreases one's inhibitions, and one winds up saying things that one is thinking, but usually has a filter not to say it aloud.

Alcohol is the great revealer. smile

nod That's something they teach you when you get your license to serve alcohol.

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Reply #41 posted 03/02/11 5:37pm

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SCNDLS said:

paintedlady said:

Tommy and Ralph come to mind...

That stuff about Tommy was an urban myth tho. He never made racist remarks and actually got his start designing costumes for Earth Wind and Fire.

Ralph claimed he never made any racists remarks either, but both did major damage control restoring their brand in the eyes of their biggest consumers.

I hope Galliano can do the same for his sake.

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Reply #42 posted 03/02/11 5:58pm

SCNDLS

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paintedlady said:

SCNDLS said:

That stuff about Tommy was an urban myth tho. He never made racist remarks and actually got his start designing costumes for Earth Wind and Fire.

Ralph claimed he never made any racists remarks either, but both did major damage control restoring their brand in the eyes of their biggest consumers.

I hope Galliano can do the same for his sake.

Hell, I don't. Tommy and Ralph were innocent, this fucka ain't. I hope he never gets another paycheck but I'm sure he will. confused

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Reply #43 posted 03/02/11 6:01pm

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SCNDLS said:

paintedlady said:

Ralph claimed he never made any racists remarks either, but both did major damage control restoring their brand in the eyes of their biggest consumers.

I hope Galliano can do the same for his sake.

Hell, I don't. Tommy and Ralph were innocent, this fucka ain't. I hope he never gets another paycheck but I'm sure he will. confused

Yup. I think Mel just found a new drinking buddy. neutral

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Reply #44 posted 03/02/11 6:09pm

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Galliano sorry but denies anti-semitism: statement

LONDON (AFP) – Designer John Galliano said Wednesday he "completely" denied the claims of anti-semitism against him but "unreservedly" apologised for his behaviour, in a statement issued by his lawyers in London.

"I completely deny the claims made against me and have fully co-operated with the police investigation," the British designer said, after his arrest in Paris on Thursday for alleged assault and making anti-Semitic remarks.

He added: "Anti-semitism and racism have no part in our society. I unreservedly apologise for my behaviour in causing any offence."

Galliano was sacked by French fashion house Dior on Tuesday after a video surfaced showing him insulting people in a cafe and declaring "I love Hitler".

The British couturier, 50, had already been suspended by the historic firm after he was arrested and questioned by French police over allegations that he had subjected a couple to a drunken, anti-semitic tirade in Paris.

In a statement issued by London solicitors Harbottle and Lewis, Galliano said: "Since the events of last Thursday evening I have not been able to make any public comment on what took place based upon advice from my French lawyer.

"However, given the continuing delays at the French prosecutor's office I should make my position clear."

Denying the claims against him, he confirmed he would be taking legal action against his accusers and said they had verbally harassed him.

"A number of independent witnesses have given evidence and have told the police that I was subjected to verbal harassment and an unprovoked assault when an individual tried to hit me with a chair having taken violent exception to my look and my clothing," he said.

"For these reasons I have commenced proceedings for defamation and the threats made against me."

The designer continued: "However, I fully accept that the accusations made against me have greatly shocked and upset people.

"I must take responsibility for the circumstances in which I found myself and for allowing myself to be seen to be behaving in the worst possible light.

"I only have myself to blame and I know that I must face up to my own failures and that I must work hard to gain people's understanding and compassion."

Gibraltar-born Galliano added: "I have fought my entire life against prejudice, intolerance and discrimination, having been subjected to it myself."

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Reply #45 posted 03/02/11 6:10pm

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rolleyes Whatever, dude, we got you on tape so save the drama for ya mama. talk to the hand

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Reply #46 posted 03/02/11 6:11pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

paintedlady said:

Tommy and Ralph come to mind...

That stuff about Tommy was an urban myth tho. He never made racist remarks and actually got his start designing costumes for Earth Wind and Fire.

http://www.snopes.com/rac...lfiger.asp

[Edited 3/2/11 9:36am]

Yeah I was unsure about Tommy. Glad that was cleared up.

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Reply #47 posted 03/02/11 6:12pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

rolleyes Whatever, dude, we got you on tape so save the drama for ya mama. talk to the hand

He must think this is 1987 or some shit. His shit was on tape and thanks to the internet it can be PROVEN with a click of the mouse! lol

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Reply #48 posted 03/02/11 6:24pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

the thing about alcohol...is that it decreases one's inhibitions, and one winds up saying things that one is thinking, but usually has a filter not to say it aloud. For example when i've had a few nips of cognac i'll speak up and tell people about how much I love Bob Saget. Normally I'd never mention a word about this because it's not something I'm completely at home with, but nonetheless cognac = Bob is great in my world.

that's really nothing to be ashamed of. :cognac:

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Reply #49 posted 03/02/11 6:52pm

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Galliano's problems get worse. He will be prosecuted...

Galliano to face court over racism allegation

05:19 AEST Thu Mar 3 2011
Superstar fashion designer John Galliano will appear before a French court between April and June of this year to answer allegations of racial or religious insults, prosecutors have said.

"Following an investigation, the Paris prosecutor's office announces John Galliano will be prosecuted by direct summons before the criminal court for public insults towards an individual on grounds of their origin or religion ... following complaints from three people," the office said.

From: http://news.ninemsn.com.a...id=8218855

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μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
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Reply #50 posted 03/02/11 7:04pm

Timmy84

Lammastide said:

Galliano's problems get worse. He will be prosecuted...

Galliano to face court over racism allegation

05:19 AEST Thu Mar 3 2011
Superstar fashion designer John Galliano will appear before a French court between April and June of this year to answer allegations of racial or religious insults, prosecutors have said.

"Following an investigation, the Paris prosecutor's office announces John Galliano will be prosecuted by direct summons before the criminal court for public insults towards an individual on grounds of their origin or religion ... following complaints from three people," the office said.

From: http://news.ninemsn.com.a...id=8218855

Oh well. He deserves it.

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Reply #51 posted 03/02/11 7:07pm

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Cerebus said:

They should have fired his ass the day he wore this complete piece of crap excuse for fashion.

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John Galliano

mushy I actually love that outfit on him. It's like Russian Czar meets Mongolian cow herder.

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Reply #52 posted 03/02/11 7:09pm

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HotGritz said:

Cerebus said:

They should have fired his ass the day he wore this complete piece of crap excuse for fashion.

mushy I actually love that outfit on him. It's like Russian Czar meets Mongolian cow herder.

He needs to drag his ass back to the yurt he crawled out of.

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Reply #53 posted 03/02/11 7:10pm

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So just to be clear; Galiano was arrested for hurling jewish insults at two non-jewish women but not for publicly stating he loves Hitler. Or was he arrested for both?

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Reply #54 posted 03/02/11 7:11pm

Timmy84

HotGritz said:

So just to be clear; Galiano was arrested for hurling jewish insults at two non-jewish women but not for publicly stating he loves Hitler. Or was he arrested for both?

Maybe both. Either way, he got arrested anyway.

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Reply #55 posted 03/02/11 8:26pm

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Timmy84 said:

johnart said:

Hate is hate and ignorance is ignorance. Neither follow any rules or fits into any given molds.

Douchebags come in every color, religion and sexual orientation. sigh

yeahthat

Perez Hilton is one example of a douchebag. He and Galliano should get along real good. bored2

Yup. nod

Gallinao has being saying these things all along, the perfect storm developed and someone video taped his dumb butt. It's wasn't that people didn't know they just ignored his bigotry until it became public. As Timmy mentioned the fashion world has never been pluralistic contray to what they like others to believe. He's done, turn him over.

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Reply #56 posted 03/02/11 9:18pm

Ace

KoolEaze said:

the Nazis killed ( and the neo-Nazis still kill ) gay people, that´s why I would take what he said with a grain of salt.

Being a dumbass, he might not even know that.

The fact that what he said when he was drunk was clearly anti-semitic does not necessarily make him an anti-semite per se

Let's say that "some of his best friends are..." (as the current Vanity Fair piece on Gibson claims) and that, like Elvis Costello ('Ray Charles is a blind, ignorant nigger'), his defence is that he only pulled this stuff out in a drunken state, to shock. These idiots still need to learn that they will be held accountable for the disgusting shit they spew when under the influence. Maybe it'll inspire them to get some help.

P.S. In vino veritas.

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Reply #57 posted 03/03/11 4:54am

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He'll move to Puerto Rico and put on a banana-shirt, get a new boyfriend and party with Ricky Martin and other Latinos since he'll blend in. He'll make tons of money on a new club he'll open in Brasil and or Miami.

Wow, you actually said that? If you know anything at all about Ricky Martin, you wouldn't have

made such a statement....makes it sound like you're prejudice against Latinos.

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Reply #58 posted 03/03/11 6:54am

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obsessed said:

paintedlady said:

He'll move to Puerto Rico and put on a banana-shirt, get a new boyfriend and party with Ricky Martin and other Latinos since he'll blend in. He'll make tons of money on a new club he'll open in Brasil and or Miami.

Wow, you actually said that? If you know anything at all about Ricky Martin, you wouldn't have

made such a statement....makes it sound like you're prejudice against Latinos.

hmmm... you must be new around GD... good luck!

confused

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Reply #59 posted 03/03/11 7:05am

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Lammastide said:

Galliano's problems get worse. He will be prosecuted...

Galliano to face court over racism allegation

05:19 AEST Thu Mar 3 2011
Superstar fashion designer John Galliano will appear before a French court between April and June of this year to answer allegations of racial or religious insults, prosecutors have said.

"Following an investigation, the Paris prosecutor's office announces John Galliano will be prosecuted by direct summons before the criminal court for public insults towards an individual on grounds of their origin or religion ... following complaints from three people," the office said.

From: http://news.ninemsn.com.a...id=8218855

You can be arrested for insulting someone??? lol

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