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Reply #30 posted 02/05/03 10:28am

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If you are talking about the infinite univers with billions and billions of galaxies each with billions of stars the odds are overwhelmingly against us being the only life that exists.

It would be intersting to see how other civilizations unfolded. Was religion ever created, do they live in peace, do they hate each other more than we do. So many possibilities...
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Reply #31 posted 02/05/03 10:31am

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I think there r others here with us
I don't think all those alien movies r made up
I think the goverment is hiding the truth from us all because they don't want the nation 2 panic...
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Reply #32 posted 02/05/03 10:31am

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The arrow is pointing to the answer. biggrin

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Reply #33 posted 02/05/03 10:38am

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I hope not. Seems unlikely. I wish that we could meet some of these intergalactic buggers and see what they think about Iraq. smile
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Reply #34 posted 02/05/03 11:09am

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YES and NO
I don't know enough about it, but I would imagine--in the infinite universe, the chances are good for a planet or moon in a proper location to a heat source-a sun or large planet- to encourage a planet with the necessary ingredients--water, atmosphere, sunlight-- to produce and sustain life.

That said, it's very likely that any life form on another planet is either too primitive--like our algae, or single celled organisms-- to be as evolved as Earth's lifeforms to be able to communicate with us, or too evolved for us to comprehend their existence or are altogether extinct.
The human experience is fairly short compared to the age of our planet, and I would imagine we will kill ourselves off in the next 2000 to 3000 years. We will either overpopulate the world and create ways to exstinguish ourselves--as many animal species do-- or we will simply make the Earth uninhabitable.
Our total existence and evolution is about 4 million years, very short in the lifespan of the planet(approx 4.5 billion years) and even moreso when compared to the universe. We will simply miss another planet's species' arrival or departure. In other words, there may have been life, there very well may be life on other planets, but very unlikely during our short existence.
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Reply #35 posted 02/05/03 11:18am

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there is a theory that the oceans on this planet were formed by millions of comets slamming into the rocky surface of this earth and leaving behind clumps of comet slush which built up over the years to form oceans. kinda like cosmic sperm, actually.

so, if the ocean (womb of all life on earth) was the starting point for life on this planet, it kinda makes sense that maybe some of the original forms may have even originated on another planet.

anyway that's one theory i read about
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Reply #36 posted 02/05/03 11:34am

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no the earth isnt the only planet with life on it

havent we proven this already? I thought that there was some form of a grass hopper on some other planet that scientist dicovered

and doesnt the key building block to create life exhist in everything it just depends on the envirionment how it will develope I think they are called midocondria (sp) and there are bacterias that live on what we belive are uninhabital planets because they can with stand extream tempertures and carry the midconria that is needed to sustain any life


this thing about dimensions is it possible that things or beings exhixt or coexist with us at the moment on a different dimensional level and may inhabet planets on a different dimaension that we cannot see and dont have the capeabilities to understand
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Reply #37 posted 02/05/03 11:37am

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GIOVANNI said:

no the earth isnt the only planet with life on it

havent we proven this already? I thought that there was some form of a grass hopper on some other planet that scientist dicovered


Nope... nobody has discovered any space grasshoppers.

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Reply #38 posted 02/05/03 11:40am

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no comment on the bacteria and the midocandria



AND the dimensions?
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Reply #39 posted 02/05/03 11:44am

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GIOVANNI said:

no comment on the bacteria and the midocandria



AND the dimensions?


All the building blocks of life are present in the universe... there have been experiments that have shown that the gasses on venus could produce life under electrical current as well. There is little doubt that there are things that we would classify although we have not identified life on another planet yet. While we have not identified life on another planet, we must remember that we occupy a small galaxy in a VAST universe with BILLIONS of galaxies, each containing BILLIONS of stars. The conditions for life are present in abundance in the universe.
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Reply #40 posted 02/05/03 11:47am

GIOVANNI

does this include the possibility of life in different dimensional levels? Seriously I want to know Ive only read on book about this no one else seems to dicuss or know about this


I read that the US government tried to make a ship invisible by some how placing it in one demensional tone over ours and everyone got all fucked up
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Reply #41 posted 02/05/03 11:50am

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GIOVANNI said:

does this include the possibility of life in different dimensional levels? Seriously I want to know Ive only read on ebook about this no one else seems to dicuss or know about this


As far as the many dimensions idea goes, there are MANY theories on this, so I cannot answer your question easily.

There are some who speculate that all events split the universe into a different dimension. There are others who believe that all possible things exist at all times in multiple possible dimensions. There are others who believe that all possible outcomes of all actions that we can possibly perform are played out in alternate dimensions and our "reality" and the dimension in which we "exist" are chosen as we interact with others and the universe.

The many dimensions theories are difficult to come to terms with as they are simply theories.


EDIT: as far as the hiding of ships and such, they tried to use an idea of Einstein's, using gravitational waves.

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Reply #42 posted 02/05/03 11:54am

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oh ...I understood it as being different dimensions co exhisting at once and that they are different levels of being and conciousness and the dimensions are measured by vibrations and are like that of a musical scale


and our bodies are tuned to this dimension we are on





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Reply #43 posted 02/05/03 12:13pm

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GIOVANNI said:

oh ...I understood it as being different dimensions co exhisting at once and that they are different levels of being and conciousness and the dimensions are measured by vibrations and are like that of a musical scale


and our bodies are tuned to this dimension we are on





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You are basically talking about superstring theory... it doesn't necessarily mean that we exist in all dimensions, but that we are only able to see things that exist in our "resonant" node of the universe. All things are possible, but they exist outside of our "visible node" if you will and we are therefore unable to see them.

There are SO many variations on the idea of "string theory" as well.
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Reply #44 posted 02/05/03 12:29pm

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IceNine said:

There are some who speculate that all events split the universe into a different dimension. There are others who believe that all possible things exist at all times in multiple possible dimensions. There are others who believe that all possible outcomes of all actions that we can possibly perform are played out in alternate dimensions and our "reality" and the dimension in which we "exist" are chosen as we interact with others and the universe.

Eh...it's all crap...
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Reply #45 posted 02/05/03 12:50pm

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Reply #46 posted 02/05/03 1:23pm

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teller said:

IceNine said:

There are some who speculate that all events split the universe into a different dimension. There are others who believe that all possible things exist at all times in multiple possible dimensions. There are others who believe that all possible outcomes of all actions that we can possibly perform are played out in alternate dimensions and our "reality" and the dimension in which we "exist" are chosen as we interact with others and the universe.

Eh...it's all crap...


Lots of fancy math and strange theories...
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Reply #47 posted 02/05/03 1:25pm

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IceNine said:

teller said:

IceNine said:

There are some who speculate that all events split the universe into a different dimension. There are others who believe that all possible things exist at all times in multiple possible dimensions. There are others who believe that all possible outcomes of all actions that we can possibly perform are played out in alternate dimensions and our "reality" and the dimension in which we "exist" are chosen as we interact with others and the universe.

Eh...it's all crap...


Lots of fancy math and strange theories...

There just isn't any reason make some of that shit up--seems like for a while they thought QED evaded causality so you have all this kooky froot loop stuff as a result.
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Reply #48 posted 02/05/03 1:48pm

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teller said:

IceNine said:

teller said:

IceNine said:

There are some who speculate that all events split the universe into a different dimension. There are others who believe that all possible things exist at all times in multiple possible dimensions. There are others who believe that all possible outcomes of all actions that we can possibly perform are played out in alternate dimensions and our "reality" and the dimension in which we "exist" are chosen as we interact with others and the universe.

Eh...it's all crap...


Lots of fancy math and strange theories...

There just isn't any reason make some of that shit up--seems like for a while they thought QED evaded causality so you have all this kooky froot loop stuff as a result.


It is nothing more than philosophy of a sort, somewhat based in science...
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Reply #49 posted 02/05/03 1:55pm

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I'd totally wager there is life elsewhere in the universe. And I don't believe at all that it'd invalidate the Bible's teachings.
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Reply #50 posted 02/05/03 2:07pm

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Okay... this sort of went somewhere else on me... or maybe not. In any case, yes I do believe there to be life on other planets and I really believe our government is aware of this life.

I certainly do not feel that we human's are blessed and oh, so special that we're all that exists.

I read an interesting article on this subject a year or so ago and I'll look and see if I can find it again. It talked about the government cover-up for life elsewhere, etc.
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Reply #51 posted 02/05/03 2:10pm

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AzureStar said:

Okay... this sort of went somewhere else on me... or maybe not. In any case, yes I do believe there to be life on other planets and I really believe our government is aware of this life.

I certainly do not feel that we human's are blessed and oh, so special that we're all that exists.

I read an interesting article on this subject a year or so ago and I'll look and see if I can find it again. It talked about the government cover-up for life elsewhere, etc.


I, on the other hand, do NOT believe that our government is aware of life from anywhere other than the earth.

I do not believe that spaceships are flying around trailer parks all around the world.

I do not believe that there is some massive government conspiracy to conceal the truth.

I do believe that there is life all over the universe and that we are not even remotely special.
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Reply #52 posted 02/05/03 2:14pm

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No. Because Star Trek told me that there are Romulans, Klingons, and Ferangi...Oh my!
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Reply #53 posted 02/05/03 2:19pm

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IceNine said:

AzureStar said:

Okay... this sort of went somewhere else on me... or maybe not. In any case, yes I do believe there to be life on other planets and I really believe our government is aware of this life.

I certainly do not feel that we human's are blessed and oh, so special that we're all that exists.

I read an interesting article on this subject a year or so ago and I'll look and see if I can find it again. It talked about the government cover-up for life elsewhere, etc.


I, on the other hand, do NOT believe that our government is aware of life from anywhere other than the earth.

I do not believe that spaceships are flying around trailer parks all around the world.

I do not believe that there is some massive government conspiracy to conceal the truth.

I do believe that there is life all over the universe and that we are not even remotely special.


I believe that the governement does know... I am going to look for that article later tonight.

I don't believe that there are spaceships flying around anywhere either and I don't believe that anyone was abducted by aliens.

I agree completely with your last statement.
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Reply #54 posted 02/05/03 2:23pm

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AzureStar said:


I believe that the governement does know... I am going to look for that article later tonight.

Why would the government cover up the information and what would an article prove about the alleged cover-up? It is easy to find conspiracy theories.

I don't believe that there are spaceships flying around anywhere either and I don't believe that anyone was abducted by aliens.

There could be spaceships flying all around the cosmos... they just are not flying around here.
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Reply #55 posted 02/05/03 2:28pm

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IceNine said:

AzureStar said:


I believe that the governement does know... I am going to look for that article later tonight.

Why would the government cover up the information and what would an article prove about the alleged cover-up? It is easy to find conspiracy theories.

I don't believe that there are spaceships flying around anywhere either and I don't believe that anyone was abducted by aliens.

There could be spaceships flying all around the cosmos... they just are not flying around here.


The article wouldn't prove anything, but only offer information from a different view. No one can prove that the government is aware of life on other planets unless someone were to come forward with solid evidence. This obvisously hasn't happened, but it is just what I believe.

Okay... correction to my comment... when I said anywhere I meant here on earth... trailer park, woods, fields, etc. I do believe that there may very well be spaceships flying out there in the universe.
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Reply #56 posted 02/05/03 2:31pm

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AzureStar said:


The article wouldn't prove anything, but only offer information from a different view. No one can prove that the government is aware of life on other planets unless someone were to come forward with solid evidence. This obvisously hasn't happened, but it is just what I believe.


There are SO many scientists involved in the search for signs of life in space... why do you believe that our government has information about this that all the scientists out there do not have. This is especially strange since you agree that there have been no alien spaceships flying around the earth.

If alien spaceships have not visited earth and crashed or aliens have not flown in and made their presence known to the government, how can you say that they government is aware of extra-terrestrial life and that they are covering it up?
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Reply #57 posted 02/05/03 2:34pm

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Look, I just watched Men In Balck II, and you could easily be an alien! smile
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Reply #58 posted 02/05/03 2:40pm

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IceNine said:

AzureStar said:


The article wouldn't prove anything, but only offer information from a different view. No one can prove that the government is aware of life on other planets unless someone were to come forward with solid evidence. This obvisously hasn't happened, but it is just what I believe.


There are SO many scientists involved in the search for signs of life in space... why do you believe that our government has information about this that all the scientists out there do not have. This is especially strange since you agree that there have been no alien spaceships flying around the earth.

If alien spaceships have not visited earth and crashed or aliens have not flown in and made their presence known to the government, how can you say that they government is aware of extra-terrestrial life and that they are covering it up?


Because I feel that there are scientists that do have information about life on other planets that are being kept "top secret" by our government. I'm certain there are many things that our government is aware of that they aren't telling us, for one reason or another, and I don't feel this is an exception. Just because scientists have stated that they haven't found any other life out there, does not mean that they really haven't.

I am not talking about Roswell, or any other "sighting" here on earth, so I don't think that a spaceship or extra-terrestrials had to have visited us in order for them to be aware of it.
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Reply #59 posted 02/05/03 2:51pm

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AzureStar said:

IceNine said:

AzureStar said:


The article wouldn't prove anything, but only offer information from a different view. No one can prove that the government is aware of life on other planets unless someone were to come forward with solid evidence. This obvisously hasn't happened, but it is just what I believe.


There are SO many scientists involved in the search for signs of life in space... why do you believe that our government has information about this that all the scientists out there do not have. This is especially strange since you agree that there have been no alien spaceships flying around the earth.

If alien spaceships have not visited earth and crashed or aliens have not flown in and made their presence known to the government, how can you say that they government is aware of extra-terrestrial life and that they are covering it up?


Because I feel that there are scientists that do have information about life on other planets that are being kept "top secret" by our government. I'm certain there are many things that our government is aware of that they aren't telling us, for one reason or another, and I don't feel this is an exception. Just because scientists have stated that they haven't found any other life out there, does not mean that they really haven't.

I am not talking about Roswell, or any other "sighting" here on earth, so I don't think that a spaceship or extra-terrestrials had to have visited us in order for them to be aware of it.


Silly girl... please explain your concepts of the "life" that they found on other planets and what planets this life is on. :LOL:

Mercury
Venus
Earth
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Pluto

Which one is the culprit? Don't make me list the moons!

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