Fenwick said:

sextonseven said:

This was my first thought when reading the thread title. Did the Academy really not want a gay movie to win best picture that badly?

+1

Not that I think that Brokeback was a spectacular movie , but Crash was H.O.R.R.I.D. I can't believe it was even nominated. never mind won.

Ever since Titanic won best picture I've never looked at the Academy Awards the same way again.

For whatever reason, I started to think of the Golden Golbes as the real Academy Awards, and then Dances with Smurfs, I mean Avatar won best picture......

I don't want to say the whole thing is a joke as there is still some merit to the process, but for the most part it's gotten out of hand now.

Thank you. That movie was the turning point for me, I stop going to the movies. I wasn't all that impressed with Brokeback or Crash. Push come to shove, Brokeback was a better movie than Crash.

Efan said:

I think not nominating Song of the Heart was one of their good decisions...

But that piece of crap Crash beating Brokeback Mountain was definitely a Top 5 WTF.

Munich pissed over both Crash and BBM.

Dances With Wolves or Goodfellas?

sextonseven said:

Efan said:

But that piece of crap Crash beating Brokeback Mountain was definitely a Top 5 WTF.

This was my first thought when reading the thread title. Did the Academy really not want a gay movie to win best picture that badly?

I never got the appeal of Crash. Brokeback Mountain was DEFINITELY a better film!

Timmy84 said:

Grace Kelly winning against Judy Garland especially when all the cameras were at Judy's hospital bed after she gave birth to her son.

That's the one.

"And no one said goodbye..."

Poor Judy...such a beauty.

Also...

I can understand "The Phantom Menace" losing the special effects Oscar to "The Matrix", and "Attack of the Clones" losing it to "The Two Towers", but "Revenge of the Sith" not even being nominated for the special effects Oscar was an absolute slap in the face to George.

And speaking of "The Two Towers"....losing Best Picture to "Chicago"???????? Yikes.

every award show when someone i like doesn't win i bring up this

2001

russell crowe not winning best actor for a beautiful mind. one of my top 3 movies ever. this movie one best picture,director,writing and she got actress!!

i loved sean penn in i am sam too that year

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purplemookiebut said:

every award show when someone i like doesn't win i bring up this

2001

russell crowe not winning best actor for a beautiful mind. one of my top 3 movies ever. this movie one best picture,director,writing and she got actress!!

i loved sean penn in i am sam too that year

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This was the same same year Denzel Washington won best actor for Training Day. Though Russell Crowe was probably more desrving of the Best Actor award that year, he won the award the year before for Gladiator. And while Denzel was really good in Training Day, he most likely won the award that year for being snubbed twice before for Malcolm X and The Hurricane.

In very recent memory:

Jennifer Hudson winning for Dreamgirls. I could gurn and scream for 2 hours too.

Crash winning Best Picture. WTF? Piece of shit.

The fact that Hilary fucking Swank has TWO BEST ACTRESS OSCARS. MORE THAN MERYL STREEP. And Michelle Pfieffer, Kevin Bacon, Gary Oldman, Glenn Close, Julianne Moore, Laura Linney and Joan Allen have NOTHING.

Reese Witherspoon winning Best Actress for Walk The Line with clearly a Supporting performance.

Jamie Foxx being nominated as a Supporting Actor for Colatteral. Supporting? Really? Much like Hailie Steinfled this year. She's in every single scene and has more lines than any other character. She's a lead!

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StonedImmaculate said:

Also...

I can understand "The Phantom Menace" losing the special effects Oscar to "The Matrix", and "Attack of the Clones" losing it to "The Two Towers", but "Revenge of the Sith" not even being nominated for the special effects Oscar was an absolute slap in the face to George.

And speaking of "The Two Towers"....losing Best Picture to "Chicago"???????? Yikes.

Chicago might be my least favorite "Best Picture" ever.

I'm also quite perplexed with the Academy's obsession with Clint Eastwood. So he's a nice guy? Give him a Nice Guy award then. Million Dollar Baby was a pile of offensive crap IMO. His music scres are tedious. Invictus was DULL.

Even the utterly shit Hereafter has found it's way to get nominated for Visual Effects when the tsunami scene was hardly innovative as Deep Impact and The Day After Tomorrow did the exact same thing years ago.

Of the ceremony itself - cutting people's speeches to make more time, and yet pointless montage after pointless montage follows. I love Singin In The Rain as much as anyone, but is it really necessary to remind people of the famous scenes every single year?

The highlight last year was the speech for Best Documentary Short. A hell of a lot more entertaining than some Twilight montage:

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728huey said:

purplemookiebut said:

every award show when someone i like doesn't win i bring up this

2001

russell crowe not winning best actor for a beautiful mind. one of my top 3 movies ever. this movie one best picture,director,writing and she got actress!!

i loved sean penn in i am sam too that year

[Edited 2/21/11 14:39pm]

This was the same same year Denzel Washington won best actor for Training Day. Though Russell Crowe was probably more desrving of the Best Actor award that year, he won the award the year before for Gladiator. And while Denzel was really good in Training Day, he most likely won the award that year for being snubbed twice before for Malcolm X and The Hurricane.

training day sucked ass. seriously

i'm one of those ppl who sees every movie out and up for awards

why would a movie win best picture.writing director and actress but he's the biggest part of the movie? it's utter fucking bullshit that they base it on who won the year b4 or what type of person they are in real life....

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purplemookiebut said:

why would a movie win best picture.writing director and actress but he's the biggest part of the movie? it's utter fucking bullshit that they base it on who won the year b4 or what type of person they are in real life....

Because Hollywood is totally cliquish like high school. It's the same reason why Martin Scorsese didn't win an Oscar for directing or best picture until The Departed; he's a total New York City guy, and a lot of Academy voters lving on the west coast have a grudge against New York filmmakers. He should have won Best Director for Taxi Driver and Raging Bull, and he definitely should have won for Goodfellas, but the voters ignored him until a few years ago so that his only Oscar wouldn't have been for Lifetime Achievement.

musicjunky318 said:

As a tribute to next Sunday, name some your favorite Oscar blunders over the years. I'll start:

1. Denzel Washington not being awarded Best Actor for "Malcolm X." I thought Al Pacino was terrific in "Scent of A Woman" but Washington's performance was nothing short of extraordinary.

That's all you had to say.

The utter abomination of Dances With Wolves beating out Goodfellas for Best Picture. That was so traumatic I still want to believe Silence of the Lambs was the film that beat it (hence the edit).

Martin Landau (Ed Wood) beating out Samuel L. Jackson (Pulp Fiction) for Supporting Actor for 1994 was a significant snub.

But I'm also partial to those guys who may not be considered great actors per se who really knocked a role out of the park.

I thought Burt Reynolds deserved the nod for his role in Boogie Nights over Robin Williams for Good Will Hunting.

I thought David Carradine should have been nominated for Kill Bill Vol. 2.

Driving Miss Daisy winning Best Pic and Dead Poets Society even being nominated for Best Pic when Do The Right Thing wasn't even recognized? Negative.

Actually, I'd be willing to bet Bening beats Portman Sunday.

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How about:

Ossie Davis being snubbed for his role in Do The Right Thing (Aiello got the nod, deservedly so, but they should have fit both of them in there)

Danny Glover's snub for his difficult role in The Color Purple.

As much as I loved Hanks in Forrest Gump, the fact that neither Morgan Freeman nor Tim Robbins was recognized for The Shawshank Redemption is an all-time world class oversight.

Shakespeare In Love over Saving Private Ryan? Yeah, that really happened.

As did Gwyneth Paltrow (SIL) beating out Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth) for Best Actress.

I may really like 2000's Best Pic winner, Gladiator, but it's not near as compelling or as beautifully made as Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Li Mu Bai would deal with Maximus inside of 45 seconds.

I liked Jim Broadbent in Iris. I loved Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast. The former got a Supporting Actor statue over the latter.

Chicago over ANY of the other films nominated for best pic in 2002. I liked it, but I mean . . . really.

As much as I love Cate Blanchett, and as much as I liked The Aviator, Virginia Madsen in Sideways and Natalie Portman in Closer were better that year.

Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain was better than Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Capote, and that speaks volumes.

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namepeace said:

How about:

Ossie Davis being snubbed for his role in Do The Right Thing (Aiello got the nod, deservedly so, but they should have fit both of them in there)

Danny Glover's snub for his difficult role in The Color Purple.

As much as I loved Hanks in Forrest Gump, the fact that neither Morgan Freeman nor Tim Robbins was recognized for The Shawshank Redemption is an all-time world class oversight.

Shakespeare In Love over Saving Private Ryan? Yeah, that really happened.

As did Gwyneth Paltrow (SIL) beating out Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth) for Best Actress.

I may really like 2000's Best Pic winner, Gladiator, but it's not near as compelling or as beautifully made as Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Li Mu Bai would deal with Maximus inside of 45 seconds.

I liked Jim Broadbent in Iris. I loved Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast. The former got a Supporting Actor statue over the latter.

Chicago over ANY of the other films nominated for best pic in 2002. I liked it, but I mean . . . really.

As much as I love Cate Blanchett, and as much as I liked The Aviator, Virginia Madsen in Sideways and Natalie Portman in Closer were better that year.

Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain was better than Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Capote, and that speaks volumes.

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oh yeah. forgot about that. that's bullshit! least he got awards for being the joker...but then you get jerkoffs saying he only won cause he died

Biggest mistake: Gladiator, Best Picture WTF? It was alright, but Best Picture? Please.

musicjunky318 said:

As a tribute to next Sunday, name some your favorite Oscar blunders over the years. I'll start:

1. Denzel Washington not being awarded Best Actor for "Malcolm X." I thought Al Pacino was terrific in "Scent of A Woman" but Washington's performance was nothing short of extraordinary.

2. Quentin Tarantino not being awarded Best Director for "Pulp Fiction." Really? Come on.

3. "The Color Purple" walking away with nothing out of 11 nominations.

4. "Song of the Heart" being snubbed from a Best Original Song nomination.

5. "The Departed" winning Best Picture. Just no.

As much as I liked Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump really was funny as hell! :lol:

Ellie said:

I'm also quite perplexed with the Academy's obsession with Clint Eastwood. So he's a nice guy? Give him a Nice Guy award then. Million Dollar Baby was a pile of offensive crap IMO. His music scres are tedious. Invictus was DULL.

Unforgiven was Clint Eastwood's true masterpiece of a film. Even today, it's THE last of the best westerns ever.

whitesockedfunk said:

Diana Ross not getting the Best Actress award for "Lady Sings the Blues"

i don't think her "acting" skills were that good enuf for an oscar nomination (my opinion)

1. Sigourney Weaver should have won best actress for Aliens.

2. Denzel Washington should have won best actor for The Hurricane.

3. Russel Crowe should have won best actor for A Beautiful Mind.

4. Tommy Wisseau should have won best effort for The Room

5. Merril Strepe should have won best actress for Marvin's Room.

6. Val Kilmer should have won best actor for The Saint.

728huey said:

purplemookiebut said:

why would a movie win best picture.writing director and actress but he's the biggest part of the movie? it's utter fucking bullshit that they base it on who won the year b4 or what type of person they are in real life....

Because Hollywood is totally cliquish like high school. It's the same reason why Martin Scorsese didn't win an Oscar for directing or best picture until The Departed; he's a total New York City guy, and a lot of Academy voters lving on the west coast have a grudge against New York filmmakers. He should have won Best Director for Taxi Driver and Raging Bull, and he definitely should have won for Goodfellas, but the voters ignored him until a few years ago so that his only Oscar wouldn't have been for Lifetime Achievement.

Scorsese's films are so borderline nihilistic that sometimes they are not even worth watching, no matter how good they are. The "Academy" doesn't like nihilism...they can accept tragedies, but not nihilism / bleakness...

i'm surprised that The Departed was so honored, considering that it's a remake, with a rather complicated script and not extremely strong performances...

if we're talking about "Best 2006 Director", well, that award truly belonged to Mel Gibson for his work in Apocalypto, but he wasn't even nominated (we all know why).

2002 - Thora Birch and Steve Buscemi no best actress and best supporting actor nominations for Ghost World
2002 - Mulholland Dr. no nomination for best picture
2003 - Infernal Affairs no best foreign film nomination
2004 - City of God no nomination for best picture
2008 - Transformers losing best visual effects to The Golden Compass
2011 - Daft Punk no nomination for Tron Legacy score

Taxi Driver

I just saw this movie! I had never seen it before... Greatness.

Another movie I just saw was Once Upon A Time In Mexico. Loved it. Johnny Depp was great in that movie, and so was Antonio Banderas. Enrique Iglesies(sp??) was pretty good, too.

And I have to agree with the poster about Hillary Swank. She's a good actress. I think she should have won for Boys Don't Cry, but not Million Dollar Baby. I can't even believe that movie won best pic...right? Didn't it? To think Hillary Swank has two "best actress" Oscars... Yikes. There have been so many great actors and actresses who can't even get one!

TonyVanDam said:

Ellie said:

I'm also quite perplexed with the Academy's obsession with Clint Eastwood. So he's a nice guy? Give him a Nice Guy award then. Million Dollar Baby was a pile of offensive crap IMO. His music scres are tedious. Invictus was DULL.

Unforgiven was Clint Eastwood's true masterpiece of a film. Even today, it's THE last of the best westerns ever.

Gran Torino was an outstanding flick.

Nothing for "The Color Purple." There were so many outstanding performances: Whoopi, Oprah, Danny, Adolf, and Margaret. Margaret was nominated for supporting actress, but I think Whoopi's performance was better. Didn't Margaret Avery put some tacky advertisement in the paper beggin for votes? Allegedly, that's what put the nail in the coffin.(?)

Nothing for Spielberg for ET.

Morgan Freeman in either Shawshank or Drivng Miss Daisy.

TonyVanDam said:

Ellie said:

I'm also quite perplexed with the Academy's obsession with Clint Eastwood. So he's a nice guy? Give him a Nice Guy award then. Million Dollar Baby was a pile of offensive crap IMO. His music scres are tedious. Invictus was DULL.

Unforgiven was Clint Eastwood's true masterpiece of a film. Even today, it's THE last of the best westerns ever.

Yeah, and that was nearly 20 years ago but they continue to insist on laudig him with awards and nominations for everything else. Strangely they ignored 'A Perfect World', one I actually do like.

JoeTyler said:

There were some GREAT mentions on this thread already, I need to acknowledge some that were already mention, then I'll add some of my own...

Goodfellas was and still is the shit, they tried to make it up by rewarding The Departed but Scorsese should've won for Goodfellas and something for Taxi Driver either best director or screenplay, but the winner was Dances With Wolves.

Diana Ross for Lady Sings The Blues, I could understand why the didn't give her the award, because she didn't look nor sound like Billie Holiday, and the movie was loosely based on Lady Day's life, but it was a excellent performance nonetheless.

Driving Miss Daisy...I don't get it. That were heavy hitters that year also, Born on the Fourth of July, Dead Poet Society, My Left Foot, Field of Dreams (and Do The Right Thing didn't get anything)

Al Pacino winning for Scent of a Woman, that was pathetic. First of all, people said Denzel Washington should have won for Malcolm X, great performance but once again I understand why he didn't win (long story). Clint Eastwood should've won for Unforgiven that year. Second, Al Pacino was robbed for Godfather II, highway robbery.

Pulp Fiction not winning Best Picture. I like Forrest Gump but Pulp Fiction was a monster in my personal opinion.

Here are five of mine:

1. Cuba Gooding winning for Jerry McGuire, bullshit. I wasn't impressed.

2. Will Smith being nominated for Ali. I'm a huge fan of Muhammad Ali and I like Will Smith, I was so disappointed with that performance. It was an awful movie.

3. John Singleton not winning for Boyz N The Hood original screenplay, Thelma and Louise beat Boyz N The Hood (WTF)

4. Glenn Close not winning for Fatal Attraction. Moonstruck was a good film, and Nick Cage deserved his award, but Cher...no.

5. As far as snubs, they went to sleep on films like Se7en, Boogie Nights, any Curtis Mayfield score in a film (mainly Superfly), Samuel L Jackson's performance in Jungle Fever.