sextonseven said:

XxAxX said:

they don't NEED padded bras.

So how do girls keep the headlights from turning on without padded bras?

My breasts were bigger when I was 11 than how they are today and I never ever wore bras until my mid 30s. I don't think bras would have helped to stop men staring at me anyway. And I mostly felt uncomfortable because other girls my age didn't have breasts yet and because I still was a child and wanted to look like one and not because of men.

sextonseven said:

XxAxX said:

they don't NEED padded bras.

So how do girls keep the headlights from turning on without padded bras?

That was my point. Like it or not, girls are developing a lot earlier than they used to. As I stated, I was a B cup by age 11 and a C by high school. (And it didn't stop there. )

A bit of padding does not do THAT much to add to size, it's more in the shape of the bra - if it's a push-up, etc.

Yeah, we'll have to agree to disagree, XxAxX.

is there anyone on this thread who thinks it is appropriate to market 'sexy' underwear to juniors (i.e. thongs, padded bras), to girls who are not fully physically developed?

is there anyone here who thinks it is culturally appropriate to sexualize young girls in this way?

yes or no, please. i am truly curious to know how my peers feel about this issue

^ i am not looking for personal stories, such as how big your girls were at a given age. just a yes or no to the issue of sexualizing little girls by marketing 'racy' undergarments to their age group

am i this out of touch edit

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XxAxX said:

is there anyone on this thread who thinks it is appropriate to market 'sexy' underwear to juniors (i.e. thongs, padded bras), to girls who are not fully physically developed?

is there anyone here who thinks it is culturally appropriate to sexualize young girls in this way?

yes or no, please. i am truly curious to know how my peers feel about this issue

I don't consider a padded bra sexy. I don't see anything sexy about the bra in the link you posted.

Thongs are bad for girls, yes.

XxAxX said:

^ i am not looking for personal stories, such as how big your girls were at a given age. just a yes or no to the issue of sexualizing little girls by marketing 'racy' undergarments to their age group

am i this out of touch edit

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I don't think very young girls should wear heels. But then again I had a short phase when I loved to wear them when I was maybe 11.

About underwear: girls who don't have breasts at an age when other girls do are often really unhappy. What age are we talking about?

Serious said:

XxAxX said:

^ i am not looking for personal stories, such as how big your girls were at a given age. just a yes or no to the issue of sexualizing little girls by marketing 'racy' undergarments to their age group

am i this out of touch edit

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I don't think very young girls should wear heels. But then again I had a short phase when I loved to wear them when I was maybe 11.

About underwear: girls who don't have breasts at an age when other girls do are often really unhappy. What age are we talking about?

we're talking pre-pubescent, before puberty when a 'little girl' has no chest.

god. this is weird

XxAxX said:

Serious said:

I don't think very young girls should wear heels. But then again I had a short phase when I loved to wear them when I was maybe 11.

About underwear: girls who don't have breasts at an age when other girls do are often really unhappy. What age are we talking about?

we're talking pre-pubescent, before puberty when a 'little girl' has no chest.

god. this is weird

I don't think that an 8 or 10 year old girl should wear a bra. And I doubt girls of that age do, but maybe I am wrong and naive.

I agree that sexualizing little girls is wrong.

What I don’t agree with is that a plain, black, padded bra made for “juniors” is sexualizing little girls.

And by bringing up my experience, my point was that sometimes little girls have big breasts already. Like it or not. And they have to deal with them. Some 11 year olds have to shop in women’s sizes, the old training bras they used to market to pre-teens simply don’t fit them. And “juniors” clothing is generally marketed to 13-21 year olds. That’s a wide age range.

That’s all.

"Juniors" clothing is not for little kids.

It's for older teens and young adults.

Juniors sizing is adult sizing (2/4/6/8); little 10 and 11 y/o kids wouldn't be able to fit into any of it.

Just wanted to clarify that point.

Padded bras are only for rupaul..grr

Serious said:

sextonseven said:

So how do girls keep the headlights from turning on without padded bras?

My breasts were bigger when I was 11 than how they are today

Oddly enough, mine too.

johnart said:

Serious said:

My breasts were bigger when I was 11 than how they are today

Oddly enough, mine too.

Photos of your breasts then and now ?

Serious said:

johnart said:

Oddly enough, mine too.

Photos of your breasts then and now ?

I don't have of 11yrs specifically but here's me as fat child with boobies. Trust me, I only got fatter and my tit-tays only got bigger.

Then:

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Now:

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johnart said:

Serious said:

Photos of your breasts then and now ?

I don't have of 11yrs specifically but here's me as fat child with boobies. Trust me, I only got fatter and my tit-tays only got bigger.

Then:

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Now:

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Really impressive ! I was a fat child myself until I became a teenager, but didn't have boobies at that early age as far as I remember .

so i got an email from a friend from high school as we are all turning 30 around now

stop shopping in the junior's dept. i ain't switching to mom jeans! misses pants and just cut ugly and unflaterring. yes my mom is gonna be 60 but she's still got the figure she had as a teen and she's skinny as hell!

purplemookiebut said:

so i got an email from a friend from high school as we are all turning 30 around now

stop shopping in the junior's dept. i ain't switching to mom jeans! misses pants and just cut ugly and unflaterring. yes my mom is gonna be 60 but she's still got the figure she had as a teen and she's skinny as hell!

The alternative to not dressing like you're chasing youth doesn't have to be ill fitting clothing or even mom jeans. Open any fashion magazine. There's plenty of fun, sexy, quirky, even edgy fashion out there for just about any age.

I'm turning 30 in August.

I guess it is about time for me to leave the junior's section *looks down at my Tinkerbell t-shirt*.

But, PurpleMookie has a point - most adult women's clothes, are really bland and cut weird. Sometimes there's nicer stuff available, but those are usually at stores that are way out of my price range.

To be fair to myself though, I don't really look that odd in junior clothing. I look younger than I actually am and I'm small, so I manage to get away with it.

most ppl like i'm like 17. i still dress like i'm in high school.

purplemookiebut said:

most ppl like i'm like 17. i still dress like i'm in high school.

at what point will you give up on life? i'm guessing it will be after you have to clean and do laundry for some moron and your children for a few years...

I wore this today to do some shopping. I'm pretty sure that a good chunk of my wardrobe is "junior" clothes and I'm turning 37 in a couple of months.

PunkMistress said:

"Juniors" clothing is not for little kids.

It's for older teens and young adults.

Juniors sizing is adult sizing (2/4/6/8); little 10 and 11 y/o kids wouldn't be able to fit into any of it.

Just wanted to clarify that point.

it's like Miss Shop or Hot Options in K-Mart and Myer. I still shop there too, because, basically, the choices out there for my age are pretty fuckin dismal

johnart said:

purplemookiebut said:

so i got an email from a friend from high school as we are all turning 30 around now

stop shopping in the junior's dept. i ain't switching to mom jeans! misses pants and just cut ugly and unflaterring. yes my mom is gonna be 60 but she's still got the figure she had as a teen and she's skinny as hell!

The alternative to not dressing like you're chasing youth doesn't have to be ill fitting clothing or even mom jeans. Open any fashion magazine. There's plenty of fun, sexy, quirky, even edgy fashion out there for just about any age.

oh yeah, and at $400 a piece, forget it!

The problem with MOMS is their limited budget - MOMS kind of tend to come last on the food chain, especially stay at home ones. Clothes are more expensive than the main income earners even realise, so "oh this old thing? I've had that for ages!" comes up often.

I tend to shop at K-Mart (and ours is wayyyyyy different to yours, it's nicer than your Walmart in range and quality, more like Target) Target, Sussan and Esprit (which is expensive) and if you can't afford to shop somewhere else, you're fucked

The shops aimed at my age are: Katies, Millers, Suzanne Grae (still relatively low-priced, but )

Serious said:

johnart said:

I don't have of 11yrs specifically but here's me as fat child with boobies. Trust me, I only got fatter and my tit-tays only got bigger.

Then:

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/johninwater.jpg[/img:$uid]

Now:

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/Image1-1.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Really impressive ! I was a fat child myself until I became a teenager, but didn't have boobies at that early age as far as I remember .

you are one freaking wooly mammoth, aren't you

ZombieKitten said:

johnart said:

The alternative to not dressing like you're chasing youth doesn't have to be ill fitting clothing or even mom jeans. Open any fashion magazine. There's plenty of fun, sexy, quirky, even edgy fashion out there for just about any age.

oh yeah, and at $400 a piece, forget it!

The problem with MOMS is their limited budget - MOMS kind of tend to come last on the food chain, especially stay at home ones. Clothes are more expensive than the main income earners even realise, so "oh this old thing? I've had that for ages!" comes up often.

I tend to shop at K-Mart (and ours is wayyyyyy different to yours, it's nicer than your Walmart in range and quality, more like Target) Target, Sussan and Esprit (which is expensive) and if you can't afford to shop somewhere else, you're fucked

The shops aimed at my age are: Katies, Millers, Suzanne Grae (still relatively low-priced, but )

I completely agree.

I'm suggesting fashion mags for inspiration and tips, not to literally go out and get that stuff. Very few folk can actually do that.

It is possible.

BlackAdder7 said:

Serious said:

Really impressive ! I was a fat child myself until I became a teenager, but didn't have boobies at that early age as far as I remember .

you are one freaking wooly mammoth, aren't you

XxAxX said:

is there anyone on this thread who thinks it is appropriate to market 'sexy' underwear to juniors (i.e. thongs, padded bras), to girls who are not fully physically developed?

is there anyone here who thinks it is culturally appropriate to sexualize young girls in this way?

yes or no, please. i am truly curious to know how my peers feel about this issue

if parent's would not buy the said undergarments, there would be no market for them.

blame the parents dear, not the stores.

JustErin said:

I wore this today to do some shopping. I'm pretty sure that a good chunk of my wardrobe is "junior" clothes and I'm turning 37 in a couple of months.

Again, much like in the ponytails thread...you are the exception. You know what you're doing and how to pull a sexy (not desperate) look together. A lot of folk do not.

There's a lot of wrinkly chicks runnin round in much too low tiny tops and stretchy pink pants with shit written across their saggy asses.

BlackAdder7 said:

XxAxX said:

is there anyone on this thread who thinks it is appropriate to market 'sexy' underwear to juniors (i.e. thongs, padded bras), to girls who are not fully physically developed?

is there anyone here who thinks it is culturally appropriate to sexualize young girls in this way?

yes or no, please. i am truly curious to know how my peers feel about this issue

if parent's would not buy the said undergarments, there would be no market for them.

blame the parents dear, not the stores.

that's still not an answer. i hear a lot opf people explaining why things are as they are, without actually saying what they think about

XxAxX said:

BlackAdder7 said:

if parent's would not buy the said undergarments, there would be no market for them.

blame the parents dear, not the stores.

that's still not an answer. i hear a lot opf people explaining why things are as they are, without actually saying what they think about

I think it's wrong for a young girl to wear thong panties. and as Carriempls (your bus riding friend, no less) says that as a young girl she needed a padded bra to hide her boobies...you have to accept it dear. girls develop at different ages...I feel thongs are a big no no....padded bras...meh.