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Thread started 02/08/11 11:15am

HotGritz

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BAD BOYS & BAD GIRLS

It seems that good women are still attracted to bad boys and good men are still attracted to bad girls.

So.....

why aren't the good girls and good guys hooking up with each other and why aren't the bad boys and bad girls hooking up with each other? Life would be a lot easier if people chose partners similar to themselves right?

converse... coffee sans carbs

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #1 posted 02/08/11 11:21am

orger

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HotGritz said:

It seems that good women are still attracted to bad boys and good men are still attracted to bad girls.

So.....

why aren't the good girls and good guys hooking up with each other and why aren't the bad boys and bad girls hooking up with each other? Life would be a lot easier if people chose partners similar to themselves right?

converse... coffee sans carbs

opposites attract, atleast for a lil' while...most people wanna experience things outside of their norm...but I think for most that eventually becomes uncomfortable and they drift back to somebody more like themselves...

How is it you feel?
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Reply #2 posted 02/08/11 11:31am

HotGritz

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I'm familiar with the "opposites attract" theory but what about "like speaks to like"?

What's puzzling is that the good people try so hard to make it work with the bad people. They are bad boys and bad girls for a reason. LOL

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #3 posted 02/08/11 12:07pm

kewlschool

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Low self esteem. shrug

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #4 posted 02/08/11 12:42pm

00769BAD

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everybody wantz to hate on the BAD guyz...

to love BAD you don't have to have 'low self esteem'

you just have to know whut you like and not care about

the judgementz of judgemental people.

I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

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Reply #5 posted 02/08/11 1:01pm

nursev

I like BAD BOYS batting eyes

the movie that is lol

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Reply #6 posted 02/08/11 1:02pm

HotGritz

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falloff

bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do!!!!!

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #7 posted 02/08/11 1:03pm

nursev

HotGritz said:

falloff

bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do!!!!!

falloff

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Reply #8 posted 02/08/11 2:07pm

alphastreet

if you want it to be good girl, get yourself a BAD BOY bad boy bad boy....OWWW!!!

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Reply #9 posted 02/09/11 1:35am

Lisa10

orger said:

HotGritz said:

It seems that good women are still attracted to bad boys and good men are still attracted to bad girls.

So.....

why aren't the good girls and good guys hooking up with each other and why aren't the bad boys and bad girls hooking up with each other? Life would be a lot easier if people chose partners similar to themselves right?

converse... coffee sans carbs

opposites attract, atleast for a lil' while...most people wanna experience things outside of their norm...but I think for most that eventually becomes uncomfortable and they drift back to somebody more like themselves...

yeahthat

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Reply #10 posted 02/09/11 2:35am

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that opposites attract things i never get. what the hell would i wanna do with a guy who doesn't watch the same shows as me,like the same bands and go to their concerts and like the same types of movies......what would we do together?

well other then that. kisses boff2

if you are gonna have a relationship with someone and want to spend time with them they need to share some of your interests or you'll be fighting over the remote,radio station dial and what movies to go see and rent from blockbuster!!!!

yoda i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol prince guitar wacky nutty I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. lol eek drooling no one tops prince in concert!
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Reply #11 posted 02/09/11 3:02am

Lisa10

purplemookiebut said:

that opposites attract things i never get. what the hell would i wanna do with a guy who doesn't watch the same shows as me,like the same bands and go to their concerts and like the same types of movies......what would we do together?

well other then that. kisses boff2

if you are gonna have a relationship with someone and want to spend time with them they need to share some of your interests or you'll be fighting over the remote,radio station dial and what movies to go see and rent from blockbuster!!!!

Oh. I'm not so sure about all that... when I was agreeing with orger, I read it as opposite as in personality. For example one person being reserved and the other person being more outgoing.

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Reply #12 posted 02/09/11 3:55am

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when it comes to men and women's gender roles, i think there is a ton of brainwashing that goes on, in the media and socially.

young adults have brains that are not physically 'fully wired'. in fact, until the age of 25 or so, the human brain is not fully finished developing. these younguns are not capable of forming adult perceptions. they look to the world around them, especially to the popular media of their generation, to teach them and help them make decisions about how to dress, talk, behave.

take for example, the twilight series. millions of young woman have internalized the messages in those books.

millions of young women have maybe even patterned their real life expectations of romance along the lines of what they're read in these, and other "romance" books.

sounds like *i'm* being overly critical? hey. i'm not the only one.

check this out:

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The tremendous success of the novels has surprised some critics, especially those feminist media and literary critics who argue that the series perpetuates outdated and troubling gender norms.

Edward, these critics claim, is frequently controlling and domineering, saving the hapless Bella time and again from danger; Bella suffers from low self-esteem and seemingly has no close friends except for Edward, his family, and Jacob, a suitor-turned-werewolf; and, at the end of the series, she foregoes college in order to marry Edward and bear, at great risk to her own life, a half-human and half-vampire child.

Elizabeth Hand is representative of feminist critics when she argues in The Washington Post that "there's something distinctly queasy about the malefemale dynamic that emerges over the series' 2,446 pages. Edward has been frozen at the age of 17. But he was born in 1901, and he doesn't behave anything like a real teenager. He talks and acts like an obsessively controlling adult male" (7).

Numerous blogs and groups such as Feminist Mormon Housewives and the Facebook group Twilightmoms have also analyzed the gender dynamics of the series, even from inside the sometimes rabid fan community.

Chelsea, writing on Feminist Mormon Housewives, posts, "I find the message to young girls disturbing. That love is an irresistible force that precludes making any rational decisions. That it's OK (even noble) to sacrifice your personal safety if you 'really' love someone" (n.p.).

Claims such as these reveal the concern that many critics and readers feel about the books' tremendous popularity and the messages that they impart to girls about romance and women's roles in sexual relationships. Do the books promote retrograde ideas about female submission to male authority? Are the books particularly troubling in the genre of young adult (YA) literature, whose readers might not yet have developed the critical apparatus of the adult reader?



Read more: http://www.faqs.org/periodicals/201004/2118675201.html#ixzz1DSeSC8iG

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in a world where women stand a one in four chance of being beaten, raped and abused, even murdered by their 'loved one', this kind of message is in my opinion, far less than helpful.

now, more than ever, young women should be taught to be strong, and to look after their own personal safety. they should be learning self-confidence.

they should be aware of what abusive, controlling behavior is and they should learn that it does not equal 'love'. they should have the confidence to walk away from situations where their significant other is a 'bad boy'.

my twocents

[Edited 2/9/11 4:04am]

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Reply #13 posted 02/09/11 4:08am

armpit

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Bad boys/girls aren't as dull.

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #14 posted 02/09/11 9:36am

HotGritz

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Nail meet Head

Chelsea, writing on Feminist Mormon Housewives, posts, "I find the message to young girls disturbing. That love is an irresistible force that precludes making any rational decisions. That it's OK (even noble) to sacrifice your personal safety if you 'really' love someone" (n.p.).

And take into account that Edward from Twilight is indeed a bad boy whereas that wherewolf dude is the good/boring/dull one who's life is not eternally in danger.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #15 posted 02/09/11 10:19am

XxAxX

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HotGritz said:

Nail meet Head

Chelsea, writing on Feminist Mormon Housewives, posts, "I find the message to young girls disturbing. That love is an irresistible force that precludes making any rational decisions. That it's OK (even noble) to sacrifice your personal safety if you 'really' love someone" (n.p.).

And take into account that Edward from Twilight is indeed a bad boy whereas that wherewolf dude is the good/boring/dull one who's life is not eternally in danger.

yep. in my opinion, women on this planet already face enough challenges from the world.

no need to create a literary mechanism whereby they will learn to punish their own dang selves over a guy who mistreats them.

the world will beat them down enough as it is.

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Reply #16 posted 02/09/11 10:56am

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XxAxX said:

when it comes to men and women's gender roles, i think there is a ton of brainwashing that goes on, in the media and socially.

young adults have brains that are not physically 'fully wired'. in fact, until the age of 25 or so, the human brain is not fully finished developing. these younguns are not capable of forming adult perceptions. they look to the world around them, especially to the popular media of their generation, to teach them and help them make decisions about how to dress, talk, behave.

take for example, the twilight series. millions of young woman have internalized the messages in those books.

millions of young women have maybe even patterned their real life expectations of romance along the lines of what they're read in these, and other "romance" books.

sounds like *i'm* being overly critical? hey. i'm not the only one.

check this out:

_______________________________________________________________________

The tremendous success of the novels has surprised some critics, especially those feminist media and literary critics who argue that the series perpetuates outdated and troubling gender norms.

Edward, these critics claim, is frequently controlling and domineering, saving the hapless Bella time and again from danger; Bella suffers from low self-esteem and seemingly has no close friends except for Edward, his family, and Jacob, a suitor-turned-werewolf; and, at the end of the series, she foregoes college in order to marry Edward and bear, at great risk to her own life, a half-human and half-vampire child.

Elizabeth Hand is representative of feminist critics when she argues in The Washington Post that "there's something distinctly queasy about the malefemale dynamic that emerges over the series' 2,446 pages. Edward has been frozen at the age of 17. But he was born in 1901, and he doesn't behave anything like a real teenager. He talks and acts like an obsessively controlling adult male" (7).

Numerous blogs and groups such as Feminist Mormon Housewives and the Facebook group Twilightmoms have also analyzed the gender dynamics of the series, even from inside the sometimes rabid fan community.

Chelsea, writing on Feminist Mormon Housewives, posts, "I find the message to young girls disturbing. That love is an irresistible force that precludes making any rational decisions. That it's OK (even noble) to sacrifice your personal safety if you 'really' love someone" (n.p.).

Claims such as these reveal the concern that many critics and readers feel about the books' tremendous popularity and the messages that they impart to girls about romance and women's roles in sexual relationships. Do the books promote retrograde ideas about female submission to male authority? Are the books particularly troubling in the genre of young adult (YA) literature, whose readers might not yet have developed the critical apparatus of the adult reader?



Read more: http://www.faqs.org/periodicals/201004/2118675201.html#ixzz1DSeSC8iG

______________________________________________________

in a world where women stand a one in four chance of being beaten, raped and abused, even murdered by their 'loved one', this kind of message is in my opinion, far less than helpful.

now, more than ever, young women should be taught to be strong, and to look after their own personal safety. they should be learning self-confidence.

they should be aware of what abusive, controlling behavior is and they should learn that it does not equal 'love'. they should have the confidence to walk away from situations where their significant other is a 'bad boy'.

my twocents

[Edited 2/9/11 4:04am]

yoda i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol prince guitar wacky nutty I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. lol eek drooling no one tops prince in concert!
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Reply #17 posted 02/09/11 11:33pm

SherryJackson

Yup. I definity like the kind of fellas that are sometimes not too good for me. Musicians, rebels, revolutionaries, people who think unconventionally...

They're just fascinating to me... biggrin

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Reply #18 posted 02/10/11 12:48am

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purplemookiebut said:

XxAxX said:

when it comes to men and women's gender roles, i think there is a ton of brainwashing that goes on, in the media and socially.

young adults have brains that are not physically 'fully wired'. in fact, until the age of 25 or so, the human brain is not fully finished developing. these younguns are not capable of forming adult perceptions. they look to the world around them, especially to the popular media of their generation, to teach them and help them make decisions about how to dress, talk, behave.

take for example, the twilight series. millions of young woman have internalized the messages in those books.

millions of young women have maybe even patterned their real life expectations of romance along the lines of what they're read in these, and other "romance" books.

sounds like *i'm* being overly critical? hey. i'm not the only one.

check this out:

_______________________________________________________________________

The tremendous success of the novels has surprised some critics, especially those feminist media and literary critics who argue that the series perpetuates outdated and troubling gender norms.

Edward, these critics claim, is frequently controlling and domineering, saving the hapless Bella time and again from danger; Bella suffers from low self-esteem and seemingly has no close friends except for Edward, his family, and Jacob, a suitor-turned-werewolf; and, at the end of the series, she foregoes college in order to marry Edward and bear, at great risk to her own life, a half-human and half-vampire child.

Elizabeth Hand is representative of feminist critics when she argues in The Washington Post that "there's something distinctly queasy about the malefemale dynamic that emerges over the series' 2,446 pages. Edward has been frozen at the age of 17. But he was born in 1901, and he doesn't behave anything like a real teenager. He talks and acts like an obsessively controlling adult male" (7).

Numerous blogs and groups such as Feminist Mormon Housewives and the Facebook group Twilightmoms have also analyzed the gender dynamics of the series, even from inside the sometimes rabid fan community.

Chelsea, writing on Feminist Mormon Housewives, posts, "I find the message to young girls disturbing. That love is an irresistible force that precludes making any rational decisions. That it's OK (even noble) to sacrifice your personal safety if you 'really' love someone" (n.p.).

Claims such as these reveal the concern that many critics and readers feel about the books' tremendous popularity and the messages that they impart to girls about romance and women's roles in sexual relationships. Do the books promote retrograde ideas about female submission to male authority? Are the books particularly troubling in the genre of young adult (YA) literature, whose readers might not yet have developed the critical apparatus of the adult reader?



Read more: http://www.faqs.org/periodicals/201004/2118675201.html#ixzz1DSeSC8iG

______________________________________________________

in a world where women stand a one in four chance of being beaten, raped and abused, even murdered by their 'loved one', this kind of message is in my opinion, far less than helpful.

now, more than ever, young women should be taught to be strong, and to look after their own personal safety. they should be learning self-confidence.

they should be aware of what abusive, controlling behavior is and they should learn that it does not equal 'love'. they should have the confidence to walk away from situations where their significant other is a 'bad boy'.

my twocents

[Edited 2/9/11 4:04am]

wtf? no reply? i would never do that? who hacked me? rofl? whofarted

yoda i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol prince guitar wacky nutty I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. lol eek drooling no one tops prince in concert!
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