Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

I wonder why they would be impressed?

the only reason I could think of to be happy your man has had 100 partners is if you have had 99 and you don't want to feel bad

I think they are impressed that he could get so many women which must mean he's extra special . I doubt though that many women would look for a man like that as their future husband.

If I see an average looking guy with a beautiful girl I might wonder what makes him special, or if he has had a string of gorgeous women (who were smart too) I would be curious. If he was good looking I wouldn't even bat an eyelid, thinking he would be used to everything falling into his lap.

I know there are women who do the notch on the bedpost thing and probably want to bed certain guys just to say they had him too. Something like that? The idea is foreign to me

Once me and the master were in the street and this tall blonde woman that looked like a model on a game show called out to him and afterwards I was like "WTF!" and he said he slept with her once. And I nearly It made no sense to me.

ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

I respect the ability to be at ease in any situation, including meeting women, but there comes a number at which it is gross to have been with so many people. To me it says something is seriously wrong with your ability to have normal relationships.

it says to me guy that has no standards, or is always on to the next one. Meaning = of no interest to me or my purposes

For me it's that he either is not interested in a serious relationship or that he is not able to have one. In both cases he's not the right one for me.

Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

My first was a virgin, and I was happy about that. In fact it was lovely to be each other's first one :mushy: We were 18 and had seen enough porno mags to know what went where

Same for me. We taught each other and it was totally cool and in a way more relaxed as we both were more comfortable.

yeah, you don't have to worry about expectations or that you aren't performing as well as the previous mate

NDRU said:

Serious said:

I guess I respect that too, even though I have met men who had loads of women and were just creepy when trying .

IMO many men wish they would be just like them and that they can get women easily .

I think most men would just assume that every woman in the world only had eyes for them. They don't want to be like some other creepy whore man

Exactly, but that's how many men see them, that these men can have all the most attractive women.

ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

True, I think a woman wants a man to have had at least one who taught him what to do and what not to do, and beyond that probably don't want to think about it that much

My first was a virgin, and I was happy about that. In fact it was lovely to be each other's first one We were 18 and had seen enough porno mags to know what went where

I knew what to do, but not how to do it. I suppose it's fine when you are excited kids and neither knows any better (I knew what to do, but certainly not how to do it), but I have a feeling that if that was still the case it would be kind of disturbing to any new woman I slept with, considering I am 38

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ZombieKitten said:

Serious said:

Same for me. We taught each other and it was totally cool and in a way more relaxed as we both were more comfortable.

yeah, you don't have to worry about expectations or that you aren't performing as well as the previous mate

And being with somebody who has had many women means facing even more expectations .

ZombieKitten said:

Serious said:

Same for me. We taught each other and it was totally cool and in a way more relaxed as we both were more comfortable.

yeah, you don't have to worry about expectations or that you aren't performing as well as the previous mate

and if you're also a virgin, you also have no idea how bad your partner is, which is nice

ZombieKitten said:

Serious said:

I think they are impressed that he could get so many women which must mean he's extra special . I doubt though that many women would look for a man like that as their future husband.

If I see an average looking guy with a beautiful girl I might wonder what makes him special, or if he has had a string of gorgeous women (who were smart too) I would be curious. If he was good looking I wouldn't even bat an eyelid, thinking he would be used to everything falling into his lap.

I know there are women who do the notch on the bedpost thing and probably want to bed certain guys just to say they had him too. Something like that? The idea is foreign to me

Once me and the master were in the street and this tall blonde woman that looked like a model on a game show called out to him and afterwards I was like "WTF!" and he said he slept with her once. And I nearly It made no sense to me.

I think some might want to be the one who will finally tame him .

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

yeah, you don't have to worry about expectations or that you aren't performing as well as the previous mate

and if you're also a virgin, you also have no idea how bad your partner is, which is nice

Well you will not know to full extent at least.

Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

it says to me guy that has no standards, or is always on to the next one. Meaning = of no interest to me or my purposes

For me it's that he either is not interested in a serious relationship or that he is not able to have one. In both cases he's not the right one for me.

I went through a pretty long time when I didn't care if my relationships were serious or not, well, not so long until I was about 26, when I realised I was IN a very serious relationship. I thought I was most interesting in fun times.

Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

yeah, you don't have to worry about expectations or that you aren't performing as well as the previous mate

And being with somebody who has had many women means facing even more expectations .

I would think the only expectation is that they would not call you afterward (not "you," specifically, of course, "you" in general)

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

yeah, you don't have to worry about expectations or that you aren't performing as well as the previous mate

and if you're also a virgin, you also have no idea how bad your partner is, which is nice

I had no issue in showing him how to do it in a way that was good for me. Second partner I had, apparently had a few notches, but didn't seem to know how to do it for me, and I felt embarrassed telling him!

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

My first was a virgin, and I was happy about that. In fact it was lovely to be each other's first one We were 18 and had seen enough porno mags to know what went where

I knew what to do, but not how to do it. I suppose it's fine when you are excited kids and neither knows any better (I knew what to do, but certainly not how to do it), but I have a feeling that if that was still the case it would be kind of disturbing to any new woman I slept with, considering I am 38

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Well I might wonder why you were still a virgin at that age. Even though I was not exactly young when I started.

There is this TV program on Austrian TV where people look for partners and it features men all the tiem who are 45 and unkissed or similar stories. And quite some women seem to be interested in being the first one for these poor guys.

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

My first was a virgin, and I was happy about that. In fact it was lovely to be each other's first one We were 18 and had seen enough porno mags to know what went where

I knew what to do, but not how to do it. I suppose it's fine when you are excited kids and neither knows any better (I knew what to do, but certainly not how to do it), but I have a feeling that if that was still the case it would be kind of disturbing to any new woman I slept with, considering I am 38

that's why movies are made about stuff like that

ZombieKitten said:

Serious said:

For me it's that he either is not interested in a serious relationship or that he is not able to have one. In both cases he's not the right one for me.

I went through a pretty long time when I didn't care if my relationships were serious or not, well, not so long until I was about 26, when I realised I was IN a very serious relationship. I thought I was most interesting in fun times.

When my 17 year long relationship started everybody thought (including me and him) that it would not last longer than some weeks .

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Serious said:

NDRU said:

I knew what to do, but not how to do it. I suppose it's fine when you are excited kids and neither knows any better (I knew what to do, but certainly not how to do it), but I have a feeling that if that was still the case it would be kind of disturbing to any new woman I slept with, considering I am 38

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Well I might wonder why you were still a virgin at that age. Even though I was not exactly young when I started.

There is this TV program on Austrian TV where people look for partners and it features men all the tiem who are 45 and unkissed or similar stories. And quite some women seem to be interested in being the first one for these poor guys.

that makes me very sad

I wonder if it's a maternal thing to feel sorry for them and want to help them?

Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

I went through a pretty long time when I didn't care if my relationships were serious or not, well, not so long until I was about 26, when I realised I was IN a very serious relationship. I thought I was most interesting in fun times.

When my 17 year long relationship started everybody thought (including me and him) that it would not last longer than some weeks .

most relationships start off pretty unserious I suppose!

ZombieKitten said:

Serious said:

Well I might wonder why you were still a virgin at that age. Even though I was not exactly young when I started.

There is this TV program on Austrian TV where people look for partners and it features men all the tiem who are 45 and unkissed or similar stories. And quite some women seem to be interested in being the first one for these poor guys.

that makes me very sad

I wonder if it's a maternal thing to feel sorry for them and want to help them?

Or maybe they want to save them from their dominant mothers, as most of these guys show up with their mothers who they still live with .

Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

that makes me very sad

I wonder if it's a maternal thing to feel sorry for them and want to help them?

Or maybe they want to save them from their dominant mothers, as most of these guys show up with their mothers who they still live with .

Mental note to self: be less dominating to sons

ZombieKitten said:

Serious said:

When my 17 year long relationship started everybody thought (including me and him) that it would not last longer than some weeks .

most relationships start off pretty unserious I suppose!

Yeah not everybody is like David who alked about having a child before we even had sex the first time .

ZombieKitten said:

Serious said:

Or maybe they want to save them from their dominant mothers, as most of these guys show up with their mothers who they still live with .

Mental note to self: be less dominating to sons

Or there might be 3 unkissed men in their forties still living with you one day .

Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

Mental note to self: be less dominating to sons

Or there might be 3 unkissed men in their forties still living with you one day .

"Isn't it time you moved out boys?"

ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

I knew what to do, but not how to do it. I suppose it's fine when you are excited kids and neither knows any better (I knew what to do, but certainly not how to do it), but I have a feeling that if that was still the case it would be kind of disturbing to any new woman I slept with, considering I am 38

that's why movies are made about stuff like that

I think porn may have messed up my perception of what sex was supposed to be like when I was young. It's only now that i know porn is part real and part entertainment (and part instructive, I guess) Like a lot of things, knowing how to do something in theory was no substiutute for actually doing it.

Maybe I was wrong, however, about a woman wanting a man who knew what he was doing. Maybe more women would not mind teaching a 40 year old virgin, assuming they liked him.

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ZombieKitten said:

Serious said:

Or there might be 3 unkissed men in their forties still living with you one day .

"Isn't it time you moved out boys?"

Serious said:

NDRU said:

I knew what to do, but not how to do it. I suppose it's fine when you are excited kids and neither knows any better (I knew what to do, but certainly not how to do it), but I have a feeling that if that was still the case it would be kind of disturbing to any new woman I slept with, considering I am 38

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Well I might wonder why you were still a virgin at that age. Even though I was not exactly young when I started.

There is this TV program on Austrian TV where people look for partners and it features men all the tiem who are 45 and unkissed or similar stories. And quite some women seem to be interested in being the first one for these poor guys.

that's part of it. It's weird to be a virgin at 38. Maybe not as weird (or gross) as having 500 women, but it's not normal. And wanting a 45 year old virgin is not normal either!!

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NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

that's why movies are made about stuff like that

I think porn may have messed up my perception of what sex was supposed to be like when I was young. It's only now that i know porn is part real and part entertainment (and part instructive, I guess) Like a lot of things, knowing how to do something in theory was no substiutute for actually doing it.

Maybe I was wrong, however, about a woman wanting a man who knew what he was doing. Maybe more women would not mind teaching a 40 year old virgin, assuming they liked him.

no problem at all!

I never actually saw a porn MOVIE - everything I knew was from still photos and written erotica so I probably had a more realistic idea.

NDRU said:

Serious said:

Well I might wonder why you were still a virgin at that age. Even though I was not exactly young when I started.

There is this TV program on Austrian TV where people look for partners and it features men all the tiem who are 45 and unkissed or similar stories. And quite some women seem to be interested in being the first one for these poor guys.

that's part of it. It's weird to be a virgin at 38. Maybe not as weird (or gross) as having 500 women, but it's not normal. And wanting a 45 year old virgin is not normal either!!

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I am sure more people consider it weird to be a virgin at 38 than to have had 500 women. And people have more respect for the later too.

ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

I think porn may have messed up my perception of what sex was supposed to be like when I was young. It's only now that i know porn is part real and part entertainment (and part instructive, I guess) Like a lot of things, knowing how to do something in theory was no substiutute for actually doing it.

Maybe I was wrong, however, about a woman wanting a man who knew what he was doing. Maybe more women would not mind teaching a 40 year old virgin, assuming they liked him.

no problem at all!

I never actually saw a porn MOVIE - everything I knew was from still photos and written erotica so I probably had a more realistic idea.

But now you've seen porn, right?

A couple of virgins should probably not start by hawking loogies in each others' bums, eh?

NDRU said:

Serious said:

Well I might wonder why you were still a virgin at that age. Even though I was not exactly young when I started.

There is this TV program on Austrian TV where people look for partners and it features men all the tiem who are 45 and unkissed or similar stories. And quite some women seem to be interested in being the first one for these poor guys.

that's part of it. It's weird to be a virgin at 38. Maybe not as weird (or gross) as having 500 women, but it's not normal. And wanting a 45 year old virgin is not normal either!!

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Yeah, I woudl be concerned WHY he is a virgin, just him being one wouldn't be a big deal, but the reasons might be.

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

no problem at all!

I never actually saw a porn MOVIE - everything I knew was from still photos and written erotica so I probably had a more realistic idea.

But now you've seen porn, right?

A couple of virgins should probably not start by hawking loogies in each others' bums, eh?

!!!!

(kids just ran in to ask why I am laughing "like a witch" )

there wasn't porn like THAT around when you were a virgin right?

back then ladies had BUSH!