LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yall know it's coming up on 10 years since Vince McMahon walked on Raw Nitro and said that he had purchased the WCW.

That's probably why he's releasing the "Best of Nitro" DVD set. Still pouring salt

bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:

1. For the time being, I don't believe in that rumor about Randy & Stephine. I've heard about this from a forum at Wrestlezone. The whole story is too far fetch considering that Randy was never fired nor did he ever resigned from WWF, but did leave after his contact expired. I'm convince that the only real reason why Vince refuses to put Randy in the WWE HOF is because Randy refuses to kiss Vince's ass (professionally speaking), plain and simple. The same thing applies to why The Ultimate Warrior & Bruno Sammatino are not in the HOF neither. These men have too much self-respect to allow Vince to give them questionable business deals.

2. Speaking of old school wrestling, were you ever a fan of Mid-South Wresting/UWF, World Class, OR USWA (before the interpromotional deal with WWF)? Just like the case of NWA/JCP, those wrestling companies were all in the South.

Vince is still bitter (and probably hurt) about Randy leaving in 1994. If I remember, they were friends and when Randy's contract expired, he promised Vince he'd stay with them while they worked on a contract....2 weeks later, he showed up on WCW Saturday Night. It's similar to what happened with Lex Luger (who Vince also refused to work with until recently)

now Ultimate Warrior....it's not he has too much self respect, it's because he's an asshole

They even offered him a spot last year and he turned them down. Apparently they're neogotiating with Sting to be in this year's hall of fame who I feel is more deserving (A 25 year career and being the most successful wrestler that HAS NOT worked for Vince McMahon ever)

-9 time NWA/WCW World Champion

-1 time NWA-TNA World Champion

-2 time TNA World Champion

-1 time WWA World Champion

I'd put Ron Simmons, Vader, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Jimmy Hart, Sid Vicious, Ken Shamrock, Ahmed Johnson, Chris Candido, Magnam TA, Jim Cornette, Rick Rude, Tully Blanchard, Rick Martel, and The Steiners in the Hall of Fame before I'd put Warrior

Warrior turned Vince down because of that bullshit documentary, The Self-Destruction Of The Ultimate Warrior.

TonyVanDam said:

bboy87 said:

Vince is still bitter (and probably hurt) about Randy leaving in 1994. If I remember, they were friends and when Randy's contract expired, he promised Vince he'd stay with them while they worked on a contract....2 weeks later, he showed up on WCW Saturday Night. It's similar to what happened with Lex Luger (who Vince also refused to work with until recently)

now Ultimate Warrior....it's not he has too much self respect, it's because he's an asshole

They even offered him a spot last year and he turned them down. Apparently they're neogotiating with Sting to be in this year's hall of fame who I feel is more deserving (A 25 year career and being the most successful wrestler that HAS NOT worked for Vince McMahon ever)

-9 time NWA/WCW World Champion

-1 time NWA-TNA World Champion

-2 time TNA World Champion

-1 time WWA World Champion

I'd put Ron Simmons, Vader, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Jimmy Hart, Sid Vicious, Ken Shamrock, Ahmed Johnson, Chris Candido, Magnam TA, Jim Cornette, Rick Rude, Tully Blanchard, Rick Martel, and The Steiners in the Hall of Fame before I'd put Warrior

Warrior turned Vince down because of that bullshit documentary, The Self-Destruction Of The Ultimate Warrior.

that shit was hilarious but I think it was accurate

He's an asshole. If you've read some of the shit he's written or said in seminars......you'd see him in a different light. He's a racist, homophobe, and just a all around douchebag

bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:

1. For the time being, I don't believe in that rumor about Randy & Stephine. I've heard about this from a forum at Wrestlezone. The whole story is too far fetch considering that Randy was never fired nor did he ever resigned from WWF, but did leave after his contact expired. I'm convince that the only real reason why Vince refuses to put Randy in the WWE HOF is because Randy refuses to kiss Vince's ass (professionally speaking), plain and simple. The same thing applies to why The Ultimate Warrior & Bruno Sammatino are not in the HOF neither. These men have too much self-respect to allow Vince to give them questionable business deals.

2. Speaking of old school wrestling, were you ever a fan of Mid-South Wresting/UWF, World Class, OR USWA (before the interpromotional deal with WWF)? Just like the case of NWA/JCP, those wrestling companies were all in the South.

Vince is still bitter (and probably hurt) about Randy leaving in 1994. If I remember, they were friends and when Randy's contract expired, he promised Vince he'd stay with them while they worked on a contract....2 weeks later, he showed up on WCW Saturday Night. It's similar to what happened with Lex Luger (who Vince also refused to work with until recently)

now Ultimate Warrior....it's not he has too much self respect, it's because he's an asshole

They even offered him a spot last year and he turned them down. Apparently they're neogotiating with Sting to be in this year's hall of fame who I feel is more deserving (A 25 year career and being the most successful wrestler that HAS NOT worked for Vince McMahon ever)

-9 time NWA/WCW World Champion

-1 time NWA-TNA World Champion

-2 time TNA World Champion

-1 time WWA World Champion

I'd put Ron Simmons, Vader, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Jimmy Hart, Sid Vicious, Ken Shamrock, Ahmed Johnson, Chris Candido, Magnam TA, Jim Cornette, Rick Rude, Tully Blanchard, Rick Martel, and The Steiners in the Hall of Fame before I'd put Warrior

And BTW, hell yeah I would put The Icon Sting in the WWE HOF ahead of The Ultimate Warrior. THOSE^ stats are excellent reasons.

If you stop to think about it for a minute, Sting didn't have to go to the WWE. Ex-WWE superstars always came to Sting at WCW or TNA. I think to only reason why Sting did miss out from going to the WWE was for the potential dream matches against Shawn Michaels, The Rock, & The Undertaker.

bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Warrior turned Vince down because of that bullshit documentary, The Self-Destruction Of The Ultimate Warrior.

that shit was hilarious but I think it was accurate

He's an asshole. If you've read some of the shit he's written or said in seminars......you'd see him in a different light. He's a racist, homophobe, and just a all around douchebag

The Ultimate Warrior... smh I always thought he was a dick (and not the good kind). Like Richard Pryor said, "not a dick with a hard-on but a dick with clothes on".

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

that shit was hilarious but I think it was accurate

He's an asshole. If you've read some of the shit he's written or said in seminars......you'd see him in a different light. He's a racist, homophobe, and just a all around douchebag

The Ultimate Warrior... smh I always thought he was a dick (and not the good kind). Like Richard Pryor said, "not a dick with a hard-on but a dick with clothes on".

He was quoted or was noted for having said or done something several years back that turned me completely off to him. I don't even recall what it was specifically, but I seem to remember it was racist in nature - or perhaps homophobic. Can't remember what it was, but it was enough to cause me to disregard him entirely.

TonyVanDam said:

bboy87 said:

Vince is still bitter (and probably hurt) about Randy leaving in 1994. If I remember, they were friends and when Randy's contract expired, he promised Vince he'd stay with them while they worked on a contract....2 weeks later, he showed up on WCW Saturday Night. It's similar to what happened with Lex Luger (who Vince also refused to work with until recently)

now Ultimate Warrior....it's not he has too much self respect, it's because he's an asshole

They even offered him a spot last year and he turned them down. Apparently they're neogotiating with Sting to be in this year's hall of fame who I feel is more deserving (A 25 year career and being the most successful wrestler that HAS NOT worked for Vince McMahon ever)

-9 time NWA/WCW World Champion

-1 time NWA-TNA World Champion

-2 time TNA World Champion

-1 time WWA World Champion

I'd put Ron Simmons, Vader, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Jimmy Hart, Sid Vicious, Ken Shamrock, Ahmed Johnson, Chris Candido, Magnam TA, Jim Cornette, Rick Rude, Tully Blanchard, Rick Martel, and The Steiners in the Hall of Fame before I'd put Warrior

And BTW, hell yeah I would put The Icon Sting in the WWE HOF ahead of The Ultimate Warrior. THOSE^ stats are excellent reasons.

If you stop to think about it for a minute, Sting didn't have to go to the WWE. Ex-WWE superstars always came to Sting at WCW or TNA. I think to only reason why Sting did miss out from going to the WWE was for the potential dream matches against Shawn Michaels, The Rock, & The Undertaker.

Sting and Shawn Michaels would've so great, I'd go anywhere to see it

Sting's my all time favorite and I always give him props. He was the man guy in WCW but got pushed back in '94 in favor of all the ex WWE guys who would only work on TV but he still came out on top, especially in 1996-98. In 1994, he went from the world champion and having matches with Vader, Rick Rude, and Flair to going mid card?

bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Warrior turned Vince down because of that bullshit documentary, The Self-Destruction Of The Ultimate Warrior.

that shit was hilarious but I think it was accurate

He's an asshole. If you've read some of the shit he's written or said in seminars......you'd see him in a different light. He's a racist, homophobe, and just a all around douchebag

After what the Warrior said about Chinese culture, I wouldn't put it pass him to be a bigot. And yes, I did see that infamous 2 hour seminar at UCONN (?) where the Warrior said "queers don't make the world go round". I also remember that the entire audience (especially the students) wanted to kick his ass!

But let not take Vince off the hook so easily. Remember, THIS man has a history of lying and making broken promises to people (Bert Hart, 1997 in Montreal, anyone?) every now and then. Warrior has always been a slew but strong-minded business man, and Vince was not used to being challenge like that, hence why he fired the Warrior the first time.

PDogz said:

Timmy84 said:

The Ultimate Warrior... smh I always thought he was a dick (and not the good kind). Like Richard Pryor said, "not a dick with a hard-on but a dick with clothes on".

He was quoted or was noted for having said or done something several years back that turned me completely off to him. I don't even recall what it was specifically, but I seem to remember it was racist in nature - or perhaps homophobic. Can't remember what it was, but it was enough to cause me to disregard him entirely.

Either ways, no one wants to hear what he has to say.

TonyVanDam said:

bboy87 said:

that shit was hilarious but I think it was accurate

He's an asshole. If you've read some of the shit he's written or said in seminars......you'd see him in a different light. He's a racist, homophobe, and just a all around douchebag

After what the Warrior said about Chinese culture, I wouldn't put it pass him to be a bigot. And yes, I did see that infamous 2 hour seminar at UCONN (?) where the Warrior said "queers don't make the world go round". I also remember that the entire audience (especially the students) wanted to kick his ass!

But let not take Vince off the hook so easily. Remember, THIS man has a history of lying and making broken promises to people (Bert Hart, 1997 in Montreal, anyone?) every now and then. Warrior has always been a slew but strong-minded business man, and Vince was not used to being challenge like that, hence why he fired the Warrior the first time.

I know about Vince's history. The man who broke his promises to all the territory promoters who were his father's longtime friends and associates and put them out of business, pretty much did character assination on those in WCW and ECW (if you watch the Rise and Fall of WCW, you'll see what I'm talking about), firing people simply because top guys were threatened by them or set them up (that's how the Rockers got fired in '87 before he rehired them), screwed the ENTIRE Hart family, puts his wrestlers under grueling schedules and encouraged them to take steroids....it's shocking no one hasn't done a tell all book about him yet

Warrior is probably a better business man than he is wrestler The guy became a superstar simply on appearance alone

bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:

And BTW, hell yeah I would put The Icon Sting in the WWE HOF ahead of The Ultimate Warrior. THOSE^ stats are excellent reasons.

If you stop to think about it for a minute, Sting didn't have to go to the WWE. Ex-WWE superstars always came to Sting at WCW or TNA. I think to only reason why Sting did miss out from going to the WWE was for the potential dream matches against Shawn Michaels, The Rock, & The Undertaker.

Sting and Shawn Michaels would've so great, I'd go anywhere to see it

Sting's my all time favorite and I always give him props. He was the man guy in WCW but got pushed back in '94 in favor of all the ex WWE guys who would only work on TV but he still came out on top, especially in 1996-98. In 1994, he went from the world champion and having matches with Vader, Rick Rude, and Flair to going mid card?

The only thing that might have mess Sting up for a while was the uprise of Goldberg.

bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:

After what the Warrior said about Chinese culture, I wouldn't put it pass him to be a bigot. And yes, I did see that infamous 2 hour seminar at UCONN (?) where the Warrior said "queers don't make the world go round". I also remember that the entire audience (especially the students) wanted to kick his ass!

But let not take Vince off the hook so easily. Remember, THIS man has a history of lying and making broken promises to people (Bert Hart, 1997 in Montreal, anyone?) every now and then. Warrior has always been a slew but strong-minded business man, and Vince was not used to being challenge like that, hence why he fired the Warrior the first time.

I know about Vince's history. The man who broke his promises to all the territory promoters who were his father's longtime friends and associates and put them out of business, pretty much did character assination on those in WCW and ECW (if you watch the Rise and Fall of WCW, you'll see what I'm talking about), firing people simply because top guys were threatened by them or set them up (that's how the Rockers got fired in '87 before he rehired them), screwed the ENTIRE Hart family, puts his wrestlers under grueling schedules and encouraged them to take steroids....it's shocking no one hasn't done a tell all book about him yet

Warrior is probably a better business man than he is wrestler The guy became a superstar simply on appearance alone

Simple put, Warrior was a bodybuilder that got by in pro wrestling by his appearence AND from drinking a whole pot of coffee!

THIS infamous promo was without the pot of coffee:

TonyVanDam said:

1. For the time being, I don't believe in that rumor about Randy & Stephine. I've heard about this from a forum at Wrestlezone. The whole story is too far fetch considering that Randy was never fired nor did he ever resigned from WWF, but did leave after his contact expired. I'm convince that the only real reason why Vince refuses to put Randy in the WWE HOF is because Randy refuses to kiss Vince's ass (professionally speaking), plain and simple. The same thing applies to why The Ultimate Warrior & Bruno Sammatino are not in the HOF neither. These men have too much self-respect to allow Vince to give them questionable business deals.

2. Speaking of old school wrestling, were you ever a fan of Mid-South Wresting/UWF, World Class, OR USWA (before the interpromotional deal with WWF)? Just like the case of NWA/JCP, those wrestling companies were all in the South.

Warrior and Sammartino arent in the hall because they've been so outspoken about Vince and his product--especially Bruno which I find funny seeing as of all the great World Champions from any federation and any era, Bruno's library of matches do not stack up. This guy was WWF champ for damn near a decade straight and couldnt wrestle his way out of a paper bag. Punch, kick, punch, kick...

As for the Savage rumor, I feel you. No one has ever come out and openly said that it was true, but no one has denied it either. Jim Ross commented on it (on a radio show I think) and pulled one of those "Thats not something I wanna get into" speeches...but he didnt deny it, skating around it as "none of my business." And if I remember correctly, Vince didnt find out about it till well after the fact--had he known I think he would have been too pissed to put on those silly Huckster and Nacho Man skits when Savage and Hogan defected to WCW.

Bottom line--its ridiculous that Savage is not in the WWF Hall. In my eyes, he was the only reason to watch the WWF from 85-89. He was the best wrestler on their roster from the moment he signed (not counting the sadly misused Rick Steamboat and the original Hart Foundation). Dont get me wrong, I know Hogan was the draw and everybody was diggin it, but the WWF was a friggin cartoon compared to the NWA. Savage gave them legitimacy in the eyes of "wrasslin'" fans who were turned off by all the snakes, birds, and bulldogs. Vince knew this and pushed him to the moon.

And yeah, I was a wrestling junkie so I watched any and everything that came on...the AWA on ESPN Saturday nights, World Class, Mid South on Prime Ticket, and of course TBS was it!

Hell, I even watched GLOW and that shit was garbage!

StonedImmaculate said:

TonyVanDam said:

1. For the time being, I don't believe in that rumor about Randy & Stephine. I've heard about this from a forum at Wrestlezone. The whole story is too far fetch considering that Randy was never fired nor did he ever resigned from WWF, but did leave after his contact expired. I'm convince that the only real reason why Vince refuses to put Randy in the WWE HOF is because Randy refuses to kiss Vince's ass (professionally speaking), plain and simple. The same thing applies to why The Ultimate Warrior & Bruno Sammatino are not in the HOF neither. These men have too much self-respect to allow Vince to give them questionable business deals.

2. Speaking of old school wrestling, were you ever a fan of Mid-South Wresting/UWF, World Class, OR USWA (before the interpromotional deal with WWF)? Just like the case of NWA/JCP, those wrestling companies were all in the South.

Warrior and Sammartino arent in the hall because they've been so outspoken about Vince and his product--especially Bruno which I find funny seeing as of all the great World Champions from any federation and any era, Bruno's library of matches do not stack up. This guy was WWF champ for damn near a decade straight and couldnt wrestle his way out of a paper bag. Punch, kick, punch, kick...

As for the Savage rumor, I feel you. No one has ever come out and openly said that it was true, but no one has denied it either. Jim Ross commented on it (on a radio show I think) and pulled one of those "Thats not something I wanna get into" speeches...but he didnt deny it, skating around it as "none of my business." And if I remember correctly, Vince didnt find out about it till well after the fact--had he known I think he would have been too pissed to put on those silly Huckster and Nacho Man skits when Savage and Hogan defected to WCW.

Bottom line--its ridiculous that Savage is not in the WWF Hall. In my eyes, he was the only reason to watch the WWF from 85-89. He was the best wrestler on their roster from the moment he signed (not counting the sadly misused Rick Steamboat and the original Hart Foundation). Dont get me wrong, I know Hogan was the draw and everybody was diggin it, but the WWF was a friggin cartoon compared to the NWA. Savage gave them legitimacy in the eyes of "wrasslin'" fans who were turned off by all the snakes, birds, and bulldogs. Vince knew this and pushed him to the moon.

And yeah, I was a wrestling junkie so I watched any and everything that came on...the AWA on ESPN Saturday nights, World Class, Mid South on Prime Ticket, and of course TBS was it!

Hell, I even watched GLOW and that shit was garbage!

Steamboat was so misused it's not even funny! The guy put on some of the best matches yet they didn't push him like they should have yet he goes back and forth to NWA and WCW and he's a world champion. I recently watched his match with Ric Flair in 1989 where he won his first NWA championship. CLASSIC

Mike Graham was on the Roundtable discussion and he was so far up Hogan's ass his eyebrows had dingleberries He practically said everyone was inferior to Hogan simply because he brought in more money Hogan was carried in his matches IMO especially the ones where he faced Savage and Flair. Shawn Michaels mocked him throughout their match in 2005 by overselling all of Hogan's punches

And whatever happened with that match at Starrcade 1997 is one of the biggest WTF moments in wrestling

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

that shit was hilarious but I think it was accurate

He's an asshole. If you've read some of the shit he's written or said in seminars......you'd see him in a different light. He's a racist, homophobe, and just a all around douchebag

The Ultimate Warrior... smh I always thought he was a dick (and not the good kind). Like Richard Pryor said, "not a dick with a hard-on but a dick with clothes on".

Hey - have you heard about the Ultimate Warrior conspiracy? Some say he died and was replace, like Prince was after he died in that motorcycle wreck following "Purple Rain".

http://deadspin.com/55069...te-warrior

When the Ultimate Warrior made his shocking return to the squared circle on WCW Monday Nitro in Fall 1998 — and I use "shocking" here loosely, since "shocking" returns became, over the years, as much a part of the Warrior's shtick as the facepaint and tassels — Hulk Hogan's response was, "I … I thought you were dead." He wasn't the only one. The question going through the mind of the curious wrestling fan was more pointed: Was that even the original Ultimate Warrior at all?

Since his first "shocking" return in 1992 at WrestleMania VIII, when he rescued Hulk Hogan from a beatdown at the hands of Sid Justice and Papa Shango, the pro wrestling world had been abuzz with an unlikely urban legend: that the Ultimate Warrior had disappeared from the WWF in August 1991 because he had died, and upon his return the character was being portrayed by a new wrestler.

for me, wrestling jumped the shark around the time of the original nwo, the disappearance of sting, the look alike razor ramon and diesel (?) in the wwe..it was all bad. Eric Bischoff wrestling, Donald Trump wrestling...

BlackAdder7 said:

for me, wrestling jumped the shark around the time of the original nwo, the disappearance of sting, the look alike razor ramon and diesel (?) in the wwe..it was all bad. Eric Bischoff wrestling, Donald Trump wrestling...

Good point.

bboy87 said:

StonedImmaculate said:

Warrior and Sammartino arent in the hall because they've been so outspoken about Vince and his product--especially Bruno which I find funny seeing as of all the great World Champions from any federation and any era, Bruno's library of matches do not stack up. This guy was WWF champ for damn near a decade straight and couldnt wrestle his way out of a paper bag. Punch, kick, punch, kick...

As for the Savage rumor, I feel you. No one has ever come out and openly said that it was true, but no one has denied it either. Jim Ross commented on it (on a radio show I think) and pulled one of those "Thats not something I wanna get into" speeches...but he didnt deny it, skating around it as "none of my business." And if I remember correctly, Vince didnt find out about it till well after the fact--had he known I think he would have been too pissed to put on those silly Huckster and Nacho Man skits when Savage and Hogan defected to WCW.

Bottom line--its ridiculous that Savage is not in the WWF Hall. In my eyes, he was the only reason to watch the WWF from 85-89. He was the best wrestler on their roster from the moment he signed (not counting the sadly misused Rick Steamboat and the original Hart Foundation). Dont get me wrong, I know Hogan was the draw and everybody was diggin it, but the WWF was a friggin cartoon compared to the NWA. Savage gave them legitimacy in the eyes of "wrasslin'" fans who were turned off by all the snakes, birds, and bulldogs. Vince knew this and pushed him to the moon.

And yeah, I was a wrestling junkie so I watched any and everything that came on...the AWA on ESPN Saturday nights, World Class, Mid South on Prime Ticket, and of course TBS was it!

Hell, I even watched GLOW and that shit was garbage!

Steamboat was so misused it's not even funny! The guy put on some of the best matches yet they didn't push him like they should have yet he goes back and forth to NWA and WCW and he's a world champion. I recently watched his match with Ric Flair in 1989 where he won his first NWA championship. CLASSIC

Mike Graham was on the Roundtable discussion and he was so far up Hogan's ass his eyebrows had dingleberries He practically said everyone was inferior to Hogan simply because he brought in more money Hogan was carried in his matches IMO especially the ones where he faced Savage and Flair. Shawn Michaels mocked him throughout their match in 2005 by overselling all of Hogan's punches

And whatever happened with that match at Starrcade 1997 is one of the biggest WTF moments in wrestling

So Mike Graham likes sucking Hogan's dick huh? But yeah the Starrcade 1997 match was really stupid.

StonedImmaculate said:

TonyVanDam said:

1. For the time being, I don't believe in that rumor about Randy & Stephine. I've heard about this from a forum at Wrestlezone. The whole story is too far fetch considering that Randy was never fired nor did he ever resigned from WWF, but did leave after his contact expired. I'm convince that the only real reason why Vince refuses to put Randy in the WWE HOF is because Randy refuses to kiss Vince's ass (professionally speaking), plain and simple. The same thing applies to why The Ultimate Warrior & Bruno Sammatino are not in the HOF neither. These men have too much self-respect to allow Vince to give them questionable business deals.

2. Speaking of old school wrestling, were you ever a fan of Mid-South Wresting/UWF, World Class, OR USWA (before the interpromotional deal with WWF)? Just like the case of NWA/JCP, those wrestling companies were all in the South.

Warrior and Sammartino arent in the hall because they've been so outspoken about Vince and his product--especially Bruno which I find funny seeing as of all the great World Champions from any federation and any era, Bruno's library of matches do not stack up. This guy was WWF champ for damn near a decade straight and couldnt wrestle his way out of a paper bag. Punch, kick, punch, kick...

As for the Savage rumor, I feel you. No one has ever come out and openly said that it was true, but no one has denied it either. Jim Ross commented on it (on a radio show I think) and pulled one of those "Thats not something I wanna get into" speeches...but he didnt deny it, skating around it as "none of my business." And if I remember correctly, Vince didnt find out about it till well after the fact--had he known I think he would have been too pissed to put on those silly Huckster and Nacho Man skits when Savage and Hogan defected to WCW.

Bottom line--its ridiculous that Savage is not in the WWF Hall. In my eyes, he was the only reason to watch the WWF from 85-89. He was the best wrestler on their roster from the moment he signed (not counting the sadly misused Rick Steamboat and the original Hart Foundation). Dont get me wrong, I know Hogan was the draw and everybody was diggin it, but the WWF was a friggin cartoon compared to the NWA. Savage gave them legitimacy in the eyes of "wrasslin'" fans who were turned off by all the snakes, birds, and bulldogs. Vince knew this and pushed him to the moon.

And yeah, I was a wrestling junkie so I watched any and everything that came on...the AWA on ESPN Saturday nights, World Class, Mid South on Prime Ticket, and of course TBS was it!

Hell, I even watched GLOW and that shit was garbage!

I strong agree. The WWF of the 1980's was definitely cartoonish. That is why I was always more of a fan of NWA/JCP, World Class, & Mid-South/UWF at the time. The matches looked more realistic and their storyline were mostly about the title belts and the valid point that pro wrestling was a "sport". And with all due respect to the original ECW, Mid-South Wrestling was already lightyears ahead of it's time in extreme rules such as the Chicago Street Fight rules, Texas Death Match rules, Blind-Fold match rules, Bullrope match rule (cowbell included!) & Barbwire match rules.

Did any body read Bret Hart 's autobiography "My real life the Cartoon World of Wreastling". It is very good. I lreaned alot about professional wrestling from his book.

Purplestar88 said:

Did any body read Bret Hart 's autobiography "My real life the Cartoon World of Wreastling". It is very good. I lreaned alot about professional wrestling from his book.

Nah but I might.

I loved that wrestling documentary, I believe it was called Beyond the Mat.

StonedImmaculate said:

bboy87 said:

If the WWE want a credible stable, they need to have their entire roster watch at least 50 hours of Four Horseman footage from 1986-90

-Tully and Arn breaking Dusty's arm

-The horseman kicking Sting out of the group, him running down the ring, resulting in him breaking his leg, all the while he and Flair are fighting, Sting returning 6 months later and winning the title

-The Garvins and Flair fueding

and I always say this, Arn Anderson is one of the best talkers in wrestling history. The fact he (nor Randy Savage) isn't in the hall of fame yet is criminal

I havent watched in a couple of years (the Wrestlemania when Michaels retired Flair was the last show I watched) but my sons still watch religiously.

I heard Arn is going into the hall this year...no?

As for Savage, he'll never get in. For those not knowing, he took little Miss Stephanie McMahon's virginity when she was under age and Vince wasnt too happy about that.

Im old school folks. Always hated the WWF (I refuse to call it WWE) but watched because it was wrestling. Went to every WWF houseshow at the San Diego Sports Arena from Feb 1987-around the summer of 1992. Back then they used to come to town every month--right before the main event they would announce next months main event and tickets went on sale immediately after.

The old Jim Crockett Promotions NWA was the shiznit. TBS, Saturday afternoon at 3:05. They never came to San Diego though...I only went to one house show of theirs in their heyday. Summer of 1988 at the Forum in LA. The main event? WARGAMES! "Two rings wrapped in steel" with a roof on top. Two teams of five battling till someone submit. The teams?

Ric Flair/Tully Blanchard/Arn Anderson/Barry Windham/JJ Dillon vs Dusty Rhodes/The Road Warriors/Nikita Koloff/Lex Luger.

I couldnt sleep that night!!!!

Anyways...I love talking old school wrestling. Y'all wanna know something, just ask!

Must Stephanie hook up with every wrestler.

Does anybody remember WWF New York? The restaurant in Times Square, I would literally go there almost every Sunday when they used to do Sunday night heat live from there and you get to see/meet the wrestlers at the restaurant.

babybugz said:

Does anybody remember WWF New York? The restaurant in Times Square, I would literally go there almost every Sunday when they used to do Sunday night heat live from there and you get to see/meet the wrestlers at the restaurant.

I do! Still have a really well made WWF sweatshirt that I bought from the store upstairs from the restaurant.

babybugz said:

StonedImmaculate said:

I havent watched in a couple of years (the Wrestlemania when Michaels retired Flair was the last show I watched) but my sons still watch religiously.

I heard Arn is going into the hall this year...no?

As for Savage, he'll never get in. For those not knowing, he took little Miss Stephanie McMahon's virginity when she was under age and Vince wasnt too happy about that.

Im old school folks. Always hated the WWF (I refuse to call it WWE) but watched because it was wrestling. Went to every WWF houseshow at the San Diego Sports Arena from Feb 1987-around the summer of 1992. Back then they used to come to town every month--right before the main event they would announce next months main event and tickets went on sale immediately after.

The old Jim Crockett Promotions NWA was the shiznit. TBS, Saturday afternoon at 3:05. They never came to San Diego though...I only went to one house show of theirs in their heyday. Summer of 1988 at the Forum in LA. The main event? WARGAMES! "Two rings wrapped in steel" with a roof on top. Two teams of five battling till someone submit. The teams?

Ric Flair/Tully Blanchard/Arn Anderson/Barry Windham/JJ Dillon vs Dusty Rhodes/The Road Warriors/Nikita Koloff/Lex Luger.

I couldnt sleep that night!!!!

Anyways...I love talking old school wrestling. Y'all wanna know something, just ask!

Must Stephanie hook up with every wrestler.

Oh wow I overlooked that part.

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Was it confirmed that Dustin was bi? I thought that was a rumor. I remembered when Orlando came out the closet.

Nah he's straight He's just one of hell of a character

Cody said for years, he didn't really get the chance to really know Dustin because he and Dusty were estranged so watching him on Raw back in the 90s was the only way he knew his brother

Are you talking about Dusty Rhodes? He's Gold Dust father if that's the same one.

babybugz said:

I kind of want Cody and Goldust to form a tag team. And yes Goldust is straight

He was married to Terri Runnels, another female wrestler. Not to say that means anything She's very pretty in person.

babybugz said:

StonedImmaculate said:

I havent watched in a couple of years (the Wrestlemania when Michaels retired Flair was the last show I watched) but my sons still watch religiously.

I heard Arn is going into the hall this year...no?

As for Savage, he'll never get in. For those not knowing, he took little Miss Stephanie McMahon's virginity when she was under age and Vince wasnt too happy about that.

Im old school folks. Always hated the WWF (I refuse to call it WWE) but watched because it was wrestling. Went to every WWF houseshow at the San Diego Sports Arena from Feb 1987-around the summer of 1992. Back then they used to come to town every month--right before the main event they would announce next months main event and tickets went on sale immediately after.

The old Jim Crockett Promotions NWA was the shiznit. TBS, Saturday afternoon at 3:05. They never came to San Diego though...I only went to one house show of theirs in their heyday. Summer of 1988 at the Forum in LA. The main event? WARGAMES! "Two rings wrapped in steel" with a roof on top. Two teams of five battling till someone submit. The teams?

Ric Flair/Tully Blanchard/Arn Anderson/Barry Windham/JJ Dillon vs Dusty Rhodes/The Road Warriors/Nikita Koloff/Lex Luger.

I couldnt sleep that night!!!!

Anyways...I love talking old school wrestling. Y'all wanna know something, just ask!

Must Stephanie hook up with every wrestler.

I don't know how true this is, but I heard that wrestler Chyna left the WWE because she was seeing Triple H, but then he and Stephanie started seeing each other. I am not sure if they got married. But then Chyna had a serious neck injury, so that could be it, too

angel345 said:

babybugz said:

Must Stephanie hook up with every wrestler.

I don't know how true this is, but I heard that wrestler Chyna left the WWE because she was seeing Triple H, but then he and Stephanie started seeing each other. I am not sure if they got married. But then Chyna had a serious neck injury, so that could be it, too

Stephaine and Triple H been married for a while they have two kids I believe and yeah I do remember Chyna and Triple H dating. Chyna didn't leave on good terms I think , she was really popular in the early 00's with the playboy and Eddie Latino Heat

I still have my program from the Wahoo McDaniel/Terry Von Erich World Championship match at the Sam Houston Coliseum. Of COURSE Von Erich cheated and used a foreign object on my man Wahoo to feloniously keep his belt.

Other popular wrestlers from then were Mil Mascaras (the Masked Mexican), Johnny Valentine and former NFL player Ernie Ladd.