phunkdaddy said:

bboy87 said:

If the WWE want a credible stable, they need to have their entire roster watch at least 50 hours of Four Horseman footage from 1986-90

-Tully and Arn breaking Dusty's arm

-The horseman kicking Sting out of the group, him running down the ring, resulting in him breaking his leg, all the while he and Flair are fighting, Sting returning 6 months later and winning the title

-The Garvins and Flair fueding

and I always say this, Arn Anderson is one of the best talkers in wrestling history. The fact he (nor Randy Savage) isn't in the hall of fame yet is criminal

Arn was one of the best technical wrestlers in the game. I guess he learned from Ole

and Gene Anderson. I remember these cats were masters at wrestling. These guys

would dissect one part of an opponents body and whup ass.

I've been watching vintage episodes of NWA/WCW on WWE Classics on Demand and they were great. Plus it's crazy knowing Arn, Sting, Rick Rude, and Lex Luger were all the same age (28) yet Arn looked like he was at least 45

WWE need to kill the nextus now CM punk in it, I do like CM Punk has a heel but I think he should have stayed with the straight edge society.

babybugz said:

You know who had a good transformation JBL I was amaze that was the same guy from the APA. Him and Eddie had some good matches.

Yeah I was amazed by that as well though I liked the APA JBL lol

babybugz said:

WWE need to kill the nextus now CM punk in it, I do like CM Punk has a heel but I think he should have stayed with the straight edge society.

So wait, he turned his back on his straight edge folks?

bboy87 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Arn was one of the best technical wrestlers in the game. I guess he learned from Ole

and Gene Anderson. I remember these cats were masters at wrestling. These guys

would dissect one part of an opponents body and whup ass.

I've been watching vintage episodes of NWA/WCW on WWE Classics on Demand and they were great. Plus it's crazy knowing Arn, Sting, Rick Rude, and Lex Luger were all the same age (28) yet Arn looked like he was at least 45

I figured something was wrong with the water. When I didn't know better, I thought in the back of my mind "what is that old dude doing in the ring?"

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

WWE need to kill the nextus now CM punk in it, I do like CM Punk has a heel but I think he should have stayed with the straight edge society.

So wait, he turned his back on his straight edge folks?

Yeah he’s the new leader now the original nextus leader has a new crew on smackdown.

Hey guys you know Triple H is coming back right

- Former WCW World Heavyweight Champion Diamond Dallas Page announced on Twitter that he may be hosting WCW's upcoming Nitro DVD set. He wrote:

"Just got the Word... Looks like I may be hosting the Best of Nitro coming out on WWE dvds...Sounds like a Great time... I'll keep you posted"

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

So wait, he turned his back on his straight edge folks?

Yeah he’s the new leader now the original nextus leader has a new crew on smackdown.

You know, this is a good thing. I think he may actually break them up.

babybugz said:

Hey guys you know Triple H is coming back right

Oh but of course. Cena's gone, he has to now.

bboy87 said:

DDP Possibly Hosting WWE's WCW Nitro DVD Set By Marc Middleton Jan 21, 2011 - 5:01:19 PM

- Former WCW World Heavyweight Champion Diamond Dallas Page announced on Twitter that he may be hosting WCW's upcoming Nitro DVD set. He wrote:

"Just got the Word... Looks like I may be hosting the Best of Nitro coming out on WWE dvds...Sounds like a Great time... I'll keep you posted"

Interesting. Been a while since I've seen Diamond. Remember when he sued Jay-Z for using the diamond symbol...

Hope Tony don't come in here.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

Hey guys you know Triple H is coming back right

Oh but of course. Cena's gone, he has to now.

He gave an interview in the new WWE magazine (on the cover of course) and was saying how the company changed (the roster he doesn’t know them) how he and undertaker the only older wrestlers left.

sidenote remember when they had Raw magazine and the regular WWF magazine

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Oh but of course. Cena's gone, he has to now.

He gave an interview in the new WWE magazine (on the cover of course) and was saying how the company changed (the roster he doesn’t know them) how he and undertaker the only older wrestlers left.

sidenote remember when they had Raw magazine and the regular WWF magazine

Of course I do. I remember they used to advertise both at the same time.

bboy87 said:

DDP Possibly Hosting WWE's WCW Nitro DVD Set By Marc Middleton Jan 21, 2011 - 5:01:19 PM

- Former WCW World Heavyweight Champion Diamond Dallas Page announced on Twitter that he may be hosting WCW's upcoming Nitro DVD set. He wrote:

"Just got the Word... Looks like I may be hosting the Best of Nitro coming out on WWE dvds...Sounds like a Great time... I'll keep you posted"

Is it me or did Diamond Dallas Page always look drunk when he was wrestling.

phunkdaddy said:

bboy87 said:

DDP Possibly Hosting WWE's WCW Nitro DVD Set By Marc Middleton Jan 21, 2011 - 5:01:19 PM

- Former WCW World Heavyweight Champion Diamond Dallas Page announced on Twitter that he may be hosting WCW's upcoming Nitro DVD set. He wrote:

"Just got the Word... Looks like I may be hosting the Best of Nitro coming out on WWE dvds...Sounds like a Great time... I'll keep you posted"

Is it me or did Diamond Dallas Page always look drunk when he was wrestling.

No you're right.

phunkdaddy said:

bboy87 said:

DDP Possibly Hosting WWE's WCW Nitro DVD Set By Marc Middleton Jan 21, 2011 - 5:01:19 PM

- Former WCW World Heavyweight Champion Diamond Dallas Page announced on Twitter that he may be hosting WCW's upcoming Nitro DVD set. He wrote:

"Just got the Word... Looks like I may be hosting the Best of Nitro coming out on WWE dvds...Sounds like a Great time... I'll keep you posted"

Is it me or did Diamond Dallas Page always look drunk when he was wrestling.

As Babybugz just said, no it's not just you. My favorite drunk wrestler would always be Stone Cold though. He made being drunk fun.

funny shit

this is what lead Ric Flair to getting his ass whupped by Jay Lethal later on down

the road. Can't find that clip

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Oh but of course. Cena's gone, he has to now.

He gave an interview in the new WWE magazine (on the cover of course) and was saying how the company changed (the roster he doesn’t know them) how he and undertaker the only older wrestlers left.

sidenote remember when they had Raw magazine and the regular WWF magazine

and that's just ego because there are more veterans who are still on the roster

Goldust: Dustin's been wrestling since 1990

Mark Henry- wrestling since 1995

William Regal- wrestling since the 80s

Kane- wrestling since the early 90s. He used to Issac Yankum AND the fake Diesel (Triple H started around the same time)

Big Show- wrestling since 1995.

Undertaker isn't even there for the whole year anyway He'll come for about 5 months, appear at Wrestlemania and you won't see him for another 4 to 7 months

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

He gave an interview in the new WWE magazine (on the cover of course) and was saying how the company changed (the roster he doesn’t know them) how he and undertaker the only older wrestlers left.

sidenote remember when they had Raw magazine and the regular WWF magazine

and that's just ego because there are more veterans who are still on the roster

Goldust: Dustin's been wrestling since 1990

Mark Henry- wrestling since 1995

William Regal- wrestling since the 80s

Kane- wrestling since the early 90s. He used to Issac Yankum AND the fake Diesel (Triple H started around the same time)

Big Show- wrestling since 1995.

Undertaker isn't even there for the whole year anyway He'll come for about 5 months, appear at Wrestlemania and you won't see him for another 4 to 7 months

And to be honest with you... I'm bored with the Undertaker now lol

bboy87 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Ric Flair is running Fortune. They are taking over TNA.

Ric Flair's loud mouth and his 50 year old wrestling maneuvers

still make good for television.

Flair is getting worn now BUT I will say the man still has the charisma. The promos he's done with Mick Foley are GOLD. Those 2 make you feel like you have to watch they're interacting with each other

Flair's promos with Jay Lethal (who's underrated) were cool too. And you can never go wrong when these two are in the ring

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Back in the days of the NWA/Joe Crocket Promotions, no one could f*** with Ric Flair OR Dusty Rhodes when it came to promos.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I need to watch it more they have all the oldies on TNA and Hulk Hogan smh. WTF happen to Orlando Jordan?

Here's the deal with him

Orlando, who's openly bisexual, got fired when he had "companion" on the road with him who was about 17 at the time.

When he got signed with TNA, they decided to take his sexuality and put it on display, making him into a new version of Goldust

I won't lie, I think Goldust had one of the best entrance songs and actually listened to it earlier today.

bboy87 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Yes and the rivalries were more intense. The 4 Horsemen(Flair, Luger, Tully Blanchard, Arn

Anderson) versus Dusty Rhodes, Sting, or Ronnie Garvin or Jimmy Valiant versus Paul Jones

and the stooges he mangaged.

If the WWE want a credible stable, they need to have their entire roster watch at least 50 hours of Four Horseman footage from 1986-90

-Tully and Arn breaking Dusty's arm

-The horseman kicking Sting out of the group, him running down the ring, resulting in him breaking his leg, all the while he and Flair are fighting, Sting returning 6 months later and winning the title

-The Garvins and Flair fueding

and I always say this, Arn Anderson is one of the best talkers in wrestling history. The fact he (nor Randy Savage) isn't in the hall of fame yet is criminal

I havent watched in a couple of years (the Wrestlemania when Michaels retired Flair was the last show I watched) but my sons still watch religiously.

I heard Arn is going into the hall this year...no?

As for Savage, he'll never get in. For those not knowing, he took little Miss Stephanie McMahon's virginity when she was under age and Vince wasnt too happy about that.

Im old school folks. Always hated the WWF (I refuse to call it WWE) but watched because it was wrestling. Went to every WWF houseshow at the San Diego Sports Arena from Feb 1987-around the summer of 1992. Back then they used to come to town every month--right before the main event they would announce next months main event and tickets went on sale immediately after.

The old Jim Crockett Promotions NWA was the shiznit. TBS, Saturday afternoon at 3:05. They never came to San Diego though...I only went to one house show of theirs in their heyday. Summer of 1988 at the Forum in LA. The main event? WARGAMES! "Two rings wrapped in steel" with a roof on top. Two teams of five battling till someone submit. The teams?

Ric Flair/Tully Blanchard/Arn Anderson/Barry Windham/JJ Dillon vs Dusty Rhodes/The Road Warriors/Nikita Koloff/Lex Luger.

I couldnt sleep that night!!!!

Anyways...I love talking old school wrestling. Y'all wanna know something, just ask!

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

OK, can we start to talk about how SHITTY WWE has gotten in the last five years?

Oh goodness it pains me to see how shitty it has gotten I long for the attitude era again.

Wow, I'm glad to find out I'm not the only one that feels that way. I thought I had just grown out of it, but I can't even watch more than 3 minutes of the WWE today. I was a HUGE fan back between the mid-80's to the early 90's. Rick Steiner, the Dog Faced Gremlin, was my favorite! (He's selling real estate now and is with the Board of Education in Georgia - one of the few wrestlers from back in the day that hasn't died!)

Back in the day, they used to WRESTLE! Today; seems like there's just storyline after storyline - hardly any time for actual matches. Every time I come across wrestling today as I channel-surf, all I ever see is someone standing in the ring with a microphone talking shit.

I even used to subscribe to WWF Magazine back in the 80's, lol. Thankfully, there are some great wrestling-torrent sites out there now to keep all those old matches alive.

PDogz said:

babybugz said:

Oh goodness it pains me to see how shitty it has gotten I long for the attitude era again.

Wow, I'm glad to find out I'm not the only one that feels that way. I thought I had just grown out of it, but I can't even watch more than 3 minutes of the WWE today. I was a HUGE fan back between the mid-80's to the early 90's. Rick Steiner, the Dog Faced Gremlin, was my favorite! (He's selling real estate now and is with the Board of Education in Georgia - one of the few wrestlers from back in the day that hasn't died!)

Back in the day, they used to WRESTLE! Today; seems like there's just storyline after storyline - hardly any time for actual matches. Every time I come across wrestling today as I channel-surf, all I ever see is someone standing in the ring with a microphone talking shit.

I even used to subscribe to WWF Magazine back in the 80's, lol. Thankfully, there are some great wrestling-torrent sites out there now to keep all those old matches alive.

Yeah the WWE is really crappy. And I don't think it's because we're all getting "older" here. That's not a good excuse for the youngsters anymore.

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

and that's just ego because there are more veterans who are still on the roster

Goldust: Dustin's been wrestling since 1990

Mark Henry- wrestling since 1995

William Regal- wrestling since the 80s

Kane- wrestling since the early 90s. He used to Issac Yankum AND the fake Diesel (Triple H started around the same time)

Big Show- wrestling since 1995.

Undertaker isn't even there for the whole year anyway He'll come for about 5 months, appear at Wrestlemania and you won't see him for another 4 to 7 months

And to be honest with you... I'm bored with the Undertaker now lol

I wish it was possible for The Undertaker to use his Ministry Of Darkness persona during his final year as an active wrestler. IMO, that would be ultimate badass!

The best part of THIS^ is the first 54 seconds.

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

And to be honest with you... I'm bored with the Undertaker now lol

I wish it was possible for The Undertaker to use his Ministry Of Darkness persona during his final year as an active wrestler. IMO, that would be ultimate badass!

The best part of THIS^ is the first 54 seconds.

I agree but he'll never do it lol

StonedImmaculate said:

bboy87 said:

If the WWE want a credible stable, they need to have their entire roster watch at least 50 hours of Four Horseman footage from 1986-90

-Tully and Arn breaking Dusty's arm

-The horseman kicking Sting out of the group, him running down the ring, resulting in him breaking his leg, all the while he and Flair are fighting, Sting returning 6 months later and winning the title

-The Garvins and Flair fueding

and I always say this, Arn Anderson is one of the best talkers in wrestling history. The fact he (nor Randy Savage) isn't in the hall of fame yet is criminal

I havent watched in a couple of years (the Wrestlemania when Michaels retired Flair was the last show I watched) but my sons still watch religiously.

I heard Arn is going into the hall this year...no?

As for Savage, he'll never get in. For those not knowing, he took little Miss Stephanie McMahon's virginity when she was under age and Vince wasnt too happy about that.

Im old school folks. Always hated the WWF (I refuse to call it WWE) but watched because it was wrestling. Went to every WWF houseshow at the San Diego Sports Arena from Feb 1987-around the summer of 1992. Back then they used to come to town every month--right before the main event they would announce next months main event and tickets went on sale immediately after.

The old Jim Crockett Promotions NWA was the shiznit. TBS, Saturday afternoon at 3:05. They never came to San Diego though...I only went to one house show of theirs in their heyday. Summer of 1988 at the Forum in LA. The main event? WARGAMES! "Two rings wrapped in steel" with a roof on top. Two teams of five battling till someone submit. The teams?

Ric Flair/Tully Blanchard/Arn Anderson/Barry Windham/JJ Dillon vs Dusty Rhodes/The Road Warriors/Nikita Koloff/Lex Luger.

I couldnt sleep that night!!!!

Anyways...I love talking old school wrestling. Y'all wanna know something, just ask!

1. For the time being, I don't believe in that rumor about Randy & Stephine. I've heard about this from a forum at Wrestlezone. The whole story is too far fetch considering that Randy was never fired nor did he ever resigned from WWF, but did leave after his contact expired. I'm convince that the only real reason why Vince refuses to put Randy in the WWE HOF is because Randy refuses to kiss Vince's ass (professionally speaking), plain and simple. The same thing applies to why The Ultimate Warrior & Bruno Sammatino are not in the HOF neither. These men have too much self-respect to allow Vince to give them questionable business deals.

2. Speaking of old school wrestling, were you ever a fan of Mid-South Wresting/UWF, World Class, OR USWA (before the interpromotional deal with WWF)? Just like the case of NWA/JCP, those wrestling companies were all in the South.

TonyVanDam said:

StonedImmaculate said:

I havent watched in a couple of years (the Wrestlemania when Michaels retired Flair was the last show I watched) but my sons still watch religiously.

I heard Arn is going into the hall this year...no?

As for Savage, he'll never get in. For those not knowing, he took little Miss Stephanie McMahon's virginity when she was under age and Vince wasnt too happy about that.

Im old school folks. Always hated the WWF (I refuse to call it WWE) but watched because it was wrestling. Went to every WWF houseshow at the San Diego Sports Arena from Feb 1987-around the summer of 1992. Back then they used to come to town every month--right before the main event they would announce next months main event and tickets went on sale immediately after.

The old Jim Crockett Promotions NWA was the shiznit. TBS, Saturday afternoon at 3:05. They never came to San Diego though...I only went to one house show of theirs in their heyday. Summer of 1988 at the Forum in LA. The main event? WARGAMES! "Two rings wrapped in steel" with a roof on top. Two teams of five battling till someone submit. The teams?

Ric Flair/Tully Blanchard/Arn Anderson/Barry Windham/JJ Dillon vs Dusty Rhodes/The Road Warriors/Nikita Koloff/Lex Luger.

I couldnt sleep that night!!!!

Anyways...I love talking old school wrestling. Y'all wanna know something, just ask!

1. For the time being, I don't believe in that rumor about Randy & Stephine. I've heard about this from a forum at Wrestlezone. The whole story is too far fetch considering that Randy was never fired nor did he ever resigned from WWF, but did leave after his contact expired. I'm convince that the only real reason why Vince refuses to put Randy in the WWE HOF is because Randy refuses to kiss Vince's ass (professionally speaking), plain and simple. The same thing applies to why The Ultimate Warrior & Bruno Sammatino are not in the HOF neither. These men have too much self-respect to allow Vince to give them questionable business deals.

2. Speaking of old school wrestling, were you ever a fan of Mid-South Wresting/UWF, World Class, OR USWA (before the interpromotional deal with WWF)? Just like the case of NWA/JCP, those wrestling companies were all in the South.

Vince is still bitter (and probably hurt) about Randy leaving in 1994. If I remember, they were friends and when Randy's contract expired, he promised Vince he'd stay with them while they worked on a contract....2 weeks later, he showed up on WCW Saturday Night. It's similar to what happened with Lex Luger (who Vince also refused to work with until recently)

now Ultimate Warrior....it's not he has too much self respect, it's because he's an asshole

They even offered him a spot last year and he turned them down. Apparently they're neogotiating with Sting to be in this year's hall of fame who I feel is more deserving (A 25 year career and being the most successful wrestler that HAS NOT worked for Vince McMahon ever)

-9 time NWA/WCW World Champion

-1 time NWA-TNA World Champion

-2 time TNA World Champion

-1 time WWA World Champion

I'd put Ron Simmons, Vader, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Jimmy Hart, Sid Vicious, Ken Shamrock, Ahmed Johnson, Chris Candido, Magnam TA, Jim Cornette, Rick Rude, Tully Blanchard, Rick Martel, and The Steiners in the Hall of Fame before I'd put Warrior

Yall know it's coming up on 10 years since Vince McMahon walked on Raw Nitro and said that he had purchased the WCW.