bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

Yeah I’m trying to figure out when it actually just turn into shit, I think sometime after the Rock left for good. But it had it’s moments with Brock Lesnar as far as recent stars I do like John Cena , Randy Orton ,Batista was cool but now I don’t like anyone recent. And there was really a CHANGE after the Chris benoit situation smh.

THAT's when everything changed.

I'd also say when WWE went back to the G/PG rated programming in 2008 and shoving John Cena down the fans' throats. They've made him into the Hulk Hogan of the 2000s-2010s: The musclehead with the heart of gold

Oh yes bring back that TV-14 again they tone it down for the kids. But I was a kid watching it so I didn’t get that they change the rating.

phunkdaddy said:

Ric Flair is running Fortune. They are taking over TNA.

Ric Flair's loud mouth and his 50 year old wrestling maneuvers

still make good for television.

Flair is getting worn now BUT I will say the man still has the charisma. The promos he's done with Mick Foley are GOLD. Those 2 make you feel like you have to watch they're interacting with each other

Flair's promos with Jay Lethal (who's underrated) were cool too. And you can never go wrong when these two are in the ring

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phunkdaddy said:

Who remembers last year this young black 21 year old dude beat

Ric Flair ass down to his drawz. I never laughed so hard. Can't

remember his name but he tore Ric's clothes up.

Oh Lord...

WWE need to stop with these crappy movies they try so hard to find another Rocky . Can not replace the rock.

babybugz said:

WWE need to stop with these crappy movies they try so hard to find another Rocky . Can not replace the rock.

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Here's the deal with him

Orlando, who's openly bisexual, got fired when he had "companion" on the road with him who was about 17 at the time.

When he got signed with TNA, they decided to take his sexuality and put it on display, making him into a new version of Goldust

Was it confirmed that Dustin was bi? I thought that was a rumor. I remembered when Orlando came out the closet.

Nah he's straight He's just one of hell of a character

Cody said for years, he didn't really get the chance to really know Dustin because he and Dusty were estranged so watching him on Raw back in the 90s was the only way he knew his brother

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

THAT's when everything changed.

I'd also say when WWE went back to the G/PG rated programming in 2008 and shoving John Cena down the fans' throats. They've made him into the Hulk Hogan of the 2000s-2010s: The musclehead with the heart of gold

Oh yes bring back that TV-14 again they tone it down for the kids. But I was a kid watching it so I didn’t get that they change the rating.

I don't know how they think every kid who watched the TV-14 version would become violent themselves, I mean really, are they that gullible?

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Was it confirmed that Dustin was bi? I thought that was a rumor. I remembered when Orlando came out the closet.

Nah he's straight He's just one of hell of a character

Cody said for years, he didn't really get the chance to really know Dustin because he and Dusty were estranged so watching him on Raw back in the 90s was the only way he knew his brother

Ohhhhhh... I see now.

bboy87 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Ric Flair is running Fortune. They are taking over TNA.

Ric Flair's loud mouth and his 50 year old wrestling maneuvers

still make good for television.

Flair is getting worn now BUT I will say the man still has the charisma. The promos he's done with Mick Foley are GOLD. Those 2 make you feel like you have to watch they're interacting with each other

Flair's promos with Jay Lethal (who's underrated) were cool too. And you can never go wrong when these two are in the ring

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So what’s the deal with Mick Foley , he left WWE for TNA but now I hear he has a beef with TNA?

phunkdaddy said:

Who remembers last year this young black 21 year old dude beat

Ric Flair ass down to his drawz. I never laughed so hard. Can't

remember his name but he tore Ric's clothes up.

that's Jay Lethal

I kind of want Cody and Goldust to form a tag team. And yes Goldust is straight

Timmy84 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Who remembers last year this young black 21 year old dude beat

Ric Flair ass down to his drawz. I never laughed so hard. Can't

remember his name but he tore Ric's clothes up.

Oh Lord...

BBoy just reminded me it was Jay Lethal. He whooped Ric's ass that night.

Funniest shit i ever seen in wrestling since Ronnie Garvin stripped him

down to his drawz in 87 and then Ric went on his one of his crazy ass rants.

Late last year, my cousin watched the Rock give an interview about his future, he talked about his film career and in a way, according to my cousin, hinted he may return to the WWE... I don't know if it's accurate that he will return or if he's planning it.

phunkdaddy said:

Timmy84 said:

Oh Lord...

BBoy just reminded me it was Jay Lethal. He whooped Ric's ass that night.

Funniest shit i ever seen in wrestling since Ronnie Garvin stripped him

down to his drawz in 87 and then Ric went on his one of his crazy ass rants.

I love when he goes off.

Oddly enough the nWo did that to him on a daily basis.

phunkdaddy said:

Timmy84 said:

Oh Lord...

BBoy just reminded me it was Jay Lethal. He whooped Ric's ass that night.

Funniest shit i ever seen in wrestling since Ronnie Garvin stripped him

down to his drawz in 87 and then Ric went on his one of his crazy ass rants.

Is this on youtube?

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

Flair is getting worn now BUT I will say the man still has the charisma. The promos he's done with Mick Foley are GOLD. Those 2 make you feel like you have to watch they're interacting with each other

Flair's promos with Jay Lethal (who's underrated) were cool too. And you can never go wrong when these two are in the ring

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So what’s the deal with Mick Foley , he left WWE for TNA but now I hear he has a beef with TNA?

Mick still works with TNA from time to time. He has a good working relationship with them and everybody's cool with him. The one who put a damper on things was Hulk. When he came in, alot of the talent were wary because he doesn't come alone, he brings his buddies (which he did) like Ed Leslie aka Brutus Beefcake aka The Zodiac aka The Booty Man aka The Disciple and The Nasty Boys because they need jobs. Plus he tries to run things and in result, it screws everyone except him

That January 4th airing on Monday. WWE brought back Bret Hart with him and Shawn Michaels finally setting things straight after 13 years and TNA? They brought Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Scott Hall, X Pac, Ric Flair, and The Nasty Boys

you know who won in the ratings

Timmy84 said:

Late last year, my cousin watched the Rock give an interview about his future, he talked about his film career and in a way, according to my cousin, hinted he may return to the WWE... I don't know if it's accurate that he will return or if he's planning it.

I would love to see him do what stone cold does drop in and drop out lol. I remember he gave that promo about hosting Raw One day. The Rock always act like he was above wrestling as soon as his acting career took off change his name to Dwayne Johnson then back to The Rock so anything is possible.

[Edited 1/22/11 21:33pm]

babybugz said:

phunkdaddy said:

BBoy just reminded me it was Jay Lethal. He whooped Ric's ass that night.

Funniest shit i ever seen in wrestling since Ronnie Garvin stripped him

down to his drawz in 87 and then Ric went on his one of his crazy ass rants.

Is this on youtube?

It probably is It was on WWE Classics On Demand last month. NWA/WCW's programming back then was stronger than WWF's back in the late 80s. Less characters and more wrestling

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

So what’s the deal with Mick Foley , he left WWE for TNA but now I hear he has a beef with TNA?

Mick still works with TNA from time to time. He has a good working relationship with them and everybody's cool with him. The one who put a damper on things was Hulk. When he came in, alot of the talent were wary because he doesn't come alone, he brings his buddies (which he did) like Ed Leslie aka Brutus Beefcake aka The Zodiac aka The Booty Man aka The Disciple and The Nasty Boys because they need jobs. Plus he tries to run things and in result, it screws everyone except him

That January 4th airing on Monday. WWE brought back Bret Hart with him and Shawn Michaels finally setting things straight after 13 years and TNA? They brought Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Scott Hall, X Pac, Ric Flair, and The Nasty Boys

you know who won in the ratings

WWE!

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

So what’s the deal with Mick Foley , he left WWE for TNA but now I hear he has a beef with TNA?

Mick still works with TNA from time to time. He has a good working relationship with them and everybody's cool with him. The one who put a damper on things was Hulk. When he came in, alot of the talent were wary because he doesn't come alone, he brings his buddies (which he did) like Ed Leslie aka Brutus Beefcake aka The Zodiac aka The Booty Man aka The Disciple and The Nasty Boys because they need jobs. Plus he tries to run things and in result, it screws everyone except him

That January 4th airing on Monday. WWE brought back Bret Hart with him and Shawn Michaels finally setting things straight after 13 years and TNA? They brought Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Scott Hall, X Pac, Ric Flair, and The Nasty Boys

you know who won in the ratings

Yes I remember I was switching back and forth with the remote

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Late last year, my cousin watched the Rock give an interview about his future, he talked about his film career and in a way, according to my cousin, hinted he may return to the WWE... I don't know if it's accurate that he will return or if he's planning it.

I would love to see him do what stone cold does drop in and drop out lol. I remember he gave that promo about hosting Raw One day. The Rock always act like he was above wrestling as soon as his acting career took off change his name to Dwayne Johnson then back to The Rock so anything is possible.

[Edited 1/22/11 21:33pm]

Yeah the Rock started to question his choice of work when he did the same type of films Hogan did (the child-friendly films).

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Late last year, my cousin watched the Rock give an interview about his future, he talked about his film career and in a way, according to my cousin, hinted he may return to the WWE... I don't know if it's accurate that he will return or if he's planning it.

I would love to see him do what stone cold does drop in and drop out lol. I remember he gave that promo about hosting Raw One day. The Rock always act like he was above wrestling as soon as his acting career too off change his name to Dwayne Johnson then back to The Rock so anything is possible.

He said recently that he doesn't want to go back and I don't think fans want him back The last couple of times he's appeared via taped segments, he gets booed

People like Stone Cold and HBK always get love because fans feel they never turned their backs on them. Dwayne didn't even cooperate with WWE on the compilation set they released a couple of years ago, which is rare. The only time they don't work with the subject wrestler is when the wrestler is dead (Brian Pillman, Eddy, The Von Erichs), isn't on good terms with Vince (Randy Savage), or works for another company (Sting, Kurt Angle, Jeff Jerret)

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

Is this on youtube?

It probably is It was on WWE Classics On Demand last month. NWA/WCW's programming back then was stronger than WWF's back in the late 80s. Less characters and more wrestling

Yes and the rivalries were more intense. The 4 Horsemen(Flair, Luger, Tully Blanchard, Arn

Anderson) versus Dusty Rhodes, Sting, or Ronnie Garvin or Jimmy Valiant versus Paul Jones

and the stooges he mangaged.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I would love to see him do what stone cold does drop in and drop out lol. I remember he gave that promo about hosting Raw One day. The Rock always act like he was above wrestling as soon as his acting career too off change his name to Dwayne Johnson then back to The Rock so anything is possible.

He said recently that he doesn't want to go back and I don't think fans want him back The last couple of times he's appeared via taped segments, he gets booed

People like Stone Cold and HBK always get love because fans feel they never turned their backs on them. Dwayne didn't even cooperate with WWE on the compilation set they released a couple of years ago, which is rare. The only time they don't work with the subject wrestler is when the wrestler is dead (Brian Pillman, Eddy, The Von Erichs), isn't on good terms with Vince (Randy Savage), or works for another company (Sting, Kurt Angle, Jeff Jerret)

Hahaha I see. I guess if he does come back, he'll be a villain but then again the WWE have too many of them... and most of the villains nowadays are BORING!

phunkdaddy said:

bboy87 said:

It probably is It was on WWE Classics On Demand last month. NWA/WCW's programming back then was stronger than WWF's back in the late 80s. Less characters and more wrestling

Yes and the rivalries were more intense. The 4 Horsemen(Flair, Luger, Tully Blanchard, Arn

Anderson) versus Dusty Rhodes, Sting, or Ronnie Garvin or Jimmy Valiant versus Paul Jones

and the stooges he mangaged.

If the WWE want a credible stable, they need to have their entire roster watch at least 50 hours of Four Horseman footage from 1986-90

-Tully and Arn breaking Dusty's arm

-The horseman kicking Sting out of the group, him running down the ring, resulting in him breaking his leg, all the while he and Flair are fighting, Sting returning 6 months later and winning the title

-The Garvins and Flair fueding

and I always say this, Arn Anderson is one of the best talkers in wrestling history. The fact he (nor Randy Savage) isn't in the hall of fame yet is criminal

babybugz said:

WWE need to stop with these crappy movies they try so hard to find another Rocky . Can not replace the rock.

Cena's movies are horrible, but Big Show's movie was really good

bboy87 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Yes and the rivalries were more intense. The 4 Horsemen(Flair, Luger, Tully Blanchard, Arn

Anderson) versus Dusty Rhodes, Sting, or Ronnie Garvin or Jimmy Valiant versus Paul Jones

and the stooges he mangaged.

If the WWE want a credible stable, they need to have their entire roster watch at least 50 hours of Four Horseman footage from 1986-90

-Tully and Arn breaking Dusty's arm

-The horseman kicking Sting out of the group, him running down the ring, resulting in him breaking his leg, all the while he and Flair are fighting, Sting returning 6 months later and winning the title

-The Garvins and Flair fueding

and I always say this, Arn Anderson is one of the best talkers in wrestling history. The fact he (nor Randy Savage) isn't in the hall of fame yet is criminal

Arn was one of the best technical wrestlers in the game. I guess he learned from Ole

and Gene Anderson. I remember these cats were masters at wrestling. These guys

would dissect one part of an opponents body and whup ass.

You know who had a good transformation JBL I was amaze that was the same guy from the APA. Him and Eddie had some good matches.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

WWE need to stop with these crappy movies they try so hard to find another Rocky . Can not replace the rock.

Cena's movies are horrible, but Big Show's movie was really good

Show's movie seemed like it would be good. I have a copy of Kane's movie

but never got around to watching it. Have to put that on the to do list.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I would love to see him do what stone cold does drop in and drop out lol. I remember he gave that promo about hosting Raw One day. The Rock always act like he was above wrestling as soon as his acting career too off change his name to Dwayne Johnson then back to The Rock so anything is possible.

He said recently that he doesn't want to go back and I don't think fans want him back The last couple of times he's appeared via taped segments, he gets booed

People like Stone Cold and HBK always get love because fans feel they never turned their backs on them. Dwayne didn't even cooperate with WWE on the compilation set they released a couple of years ago, which is rare. The only time they don't work with the subject wrestler is when the wrestler is dead (Brian Pillman, Eddy, The Von Erichs), isn't on good terms with Vince (Randy Savage), or works for another company (Sting, Kurt Angle, Jeff Jerret)

Yeah like I said he act like he was above it but he probably just wanted to be actor for a little while and the fans thought he would come back... he left . And he was still popular too when he left. I have his DVD it would have been so much better if he did Commentary on it.