Just found out that three close friends of my 14 year old niece were just stabbed outside their school in North London and one has died My 11 year old nephew also goes to the same school and knows the victims too

Apparently it was just a random attack by a possibly mentally ill person. I'm not insensitive to hearing about these stories whenever they happen, but it just seems different when it's closer to your surroundings. I don't know these kids myself, but I've been to the school to pick up my nephew before and I know the area well. It just makes you question everything. The school is in walking distance for all these kids and you just start wondering how safe it all is.

It's just weird, in some ways I still think of my niece as being a child although obviously she's at that intermediary stage right now. And to think that her friends are getting stabbed right outside the school she goes to, just shocks me completely. My heart just goes out to these families right now. It wasn't a targeted attack so you realize this could have happened to any of these kids. It could have been my niece or my nephew if they just just happened to be in that place at that time. It could have been anyone. It's just all so senseless and tragic

Militant said:

Just found out that three close friends of my 14 year old niece were just stabbed outside their school in North London and one has died My 11 year old nephew also goes to the same school and knows the victims too

Apparently it was just a random attack by a possibly mentally ill person. I'm not insensitive to hearing about these stories whenever they happen, but it just seems different when it's closer to your surroundings. I don't know these kids myself, but I've been to the school to pick up my nephew before and I know the area well. It just makes you question everything. The school is in walking distance for all these kids and you just start wondering how safe it all is.

It's just weird, in some ways I still think of my niece as being a child although obviously she's at that intermediary stage right now. And to think that her friends are getting stabbed right outside the school she goes to, just shocks me completely. My heart just goes out to these families right now. It wasn't a targeted attack so you realize this could have happened to any of these kids. It could have been my niece or my nephew if they just just happened to be in that place at that time. It could have been anyone. It's just all so senseless and tragic

I'm so sorry to hear that, I hope your niece and nephew are doing alright :*( My heart goes out to you and everyone.

Some time ago one child killed another one in the school that I look down from the window of my living room. I remember all the flowers that were in front of the door of the school for weeks.

That's absolutely awful. Where abouts? I grew up in North London.

My heart goes out to your neice and the victims. Have they caught the suspects?

I know they've arrested someone. I have to assume it's the culprit, but you know how it goes, we can't be sure until the police say something or some footage is released. There's CCTV everywhere in that area and there would have been a lot of people around.

lust - it's in Tottenham.

My blood is actually boiling right now, because I just read a news report from The Sun's website (admittedly a racist, tabloid trash organisation), and I saw the following line in there - "The three injured boys are believed to be Turkish". This pisses me off because it's not relevent at all. This school is very multicultural, my nephew who goes there is half Indian and half English, my niece who goes there is half Indian and half Moroccon (they aren't siblings). But there's all sorts of races and cultures at that school. And now it seems like the tabloid media want to try and stir up racial tensions by making comments like that. Bastards. And they also said in the article that the boy who died "was from Africa". Which seems like they are trying to provoke something, it's obviously much more likely that he was just of African descent. They are trying to insinuate to their largely middle class white readership that this is some sort of "ethnic problem". At least that's how it comes across to me. I might be reading too much into it but their choice of wording seems very deliberate. A child has died and they are promoting their racist xenophobic agenda as usual.

Militant said:

I know they've arrested someone. I have to assume it's the culprit, but you know how it goes, we can't be sure until the police say something or some footage is released. There's CCTV everywhere in that area and there would have been a lot of people around.

lust - it's in Tottenham.

My blood is actually boiling right now, because I just read a news report from The Sun's website (admittedly a racist, tabloid trash organisation), and I saw the following line in there - "The three injured boys are believed to be Turkish". This pisses me off because it's not relevent at all. This school is very multicultural, my nephew who goes there is half Indian and half English, my niece who goes there is half Indian and half Moroccon (they aren't siblings). But there's all sorts of races and cultures at that school. And now it seems like the tabloid media want to try and stir up racial tensions by making comments like that. Bastards. And they also said in the article that the boy who died "was from Africa". Which seems like they are trying to provoke something, it's obviously much more likely that he was just of African descent. They are trying to insinuate to their largely middle class white readership that this is some sort of "ethnic problem". At least that's how it comes across to me. I might be reading too much into it but their choice of wording seems very deliberate. A child has died and they are promoting their racist xenophobic agenda as usual.

Sorry to hear that. Hope your niece won´t be too traumatized by this in the long run.

By the way, I´m Turkish, and I almost got stabbed by a couple of white,English guys in London eight years ago. This has nothing to do with race or ethnic background, but with people acting stupid and not considering how much damage a knife or any other weapon or even a punch or a kick can inflict on a person´s body. Over the years, I´ve seen all kinds of different people doing stuff like this, whether they were drunk Germans, Turks, Arabs, English, whatever. Here in Germany, a man is facing jailtime because he shot two Italians in the head and killed them during the World Cup (football/soccer).

They were arguing in a pub in Germany whether Italy or Germany had won more World Championships, then he went home, grabbed his gun, went back and just shot them in the head. Now he feels sorry and apologizes to the families. A couple of weeks ago I had to call the police because I saw two very sick and evil people walking down my street, randomly punching and kicking people and hitting cars, and threatening women who were riding past them on their bicycles. We´re living in crazy times. But maybe times have always been this brutal and I never realized it as a kid.

Those stabbings in London are a strange phenomenon though...in the 80s, I always regarded England as a comparatively peaceful place with less weapons in the streets than Germany or France but for more than a decade now, weapons and particularly knives seem to be some sort of sick trend. I find this increase of violence in London very shocking and wonder what the reasons are.Why knives? Why the extreme brutality? For what reason?

Hope your niece won´t be too affected by this.

KoolEaze said:

Militant said:

I know they've arrested someone. I have to assume it's the culprit, but you know how it goes, we can't be sure until the police say something or some footage is released. There's CCTV everywhere in that area and there would have been a lot of people around.

lust - it's in Tottenham.

My blood is actually boiling right now, because I just read a news report from The Sun's website (admittedly a racist, tabloid trash organisation), and I saw the following line in there - "The three injured boys are believed to be Turkish". This pisses me off because it's not relevent at all. This school is very multicultural, my nephew who goes there is half Indian and half English, my niece who goes there is half Indian and half Moroccon (they aren't siblings). But there's all sorts of races and cultures at that school. And now it seems like the tabloid media want to try and stir up racial tensions by making comments like that. Bastards. And they also said in the article that the boy who died "was from Africa". Which seems like they are trying to provoke something, it's obviously much more likely that he was just of African descent. They are trying to insinuate to their largely middle class white readership that this is some sort of "ethnic problem". At least that's how it comes across to me. I might be reading too much into it but their choice of wording seems very deliberate. A child has died and they are promoting their racist xenophobic agenda as usual.

Sorry to hear that. Hope your niece won´t be too traumatized by this in the long run.

By the way, I´m Turkish, and I almost got stabbed by a couple of white,English guys in London eight years ago. This has nothing to do with race or ethnic background, but with people acting stupid and not considering how much damage a knife or any other weapon or even a punch or a kick can inflict on a person´s body. Over the years, I´ve seen all kinds of different people doing stuff like this, whether they were drunk Germans, Turks, Arabs, English, whatever. Here in Germany, a man is facing jailtime because he shot two Italians in the head and killed them during the World Cup (football/soccer).

They were arguing in a pub in Germany whether Italy or Germany had won more World Championships, then he went home, grabbed his gun, went back and just shot them in the head. Now he feels sorry and apologizes to the families. A couple of weeks ago I had to call the police because I saw two very sick and evil people walking down my street, randomly punching and kicking people and hitting cars, and threatening women who were riding past them on their bicycles. We´re living in crazy times. But maybe times have always been this brutal and I never realized it as a kid.

Those stabbings in London are a strange phenomenon though...in the 80s, I always regarded England as a comparatively peaceful place with less weapons in the streets than Germany or France but for more than a decade now, weapons and particularly knives seem to be some sort of sick trend. I find this increase of violence in London very shocking and wonder what the reasons are.Why knives? Why the extreme brutality? For what reason?

Hope your niece won´t be too affected by this.

Thanks. She's a smart kid. I think she will be OK. My nephew too.

You're right, it's completely not an ethnic issue which is why it pisses me off that the media are trying to make it seem that way.

I myself was held at knifepoint in the exact same area just last summer. Luckily I grew up on the streets myself and I had enough insight into the nuance of what they were saying to call their bluff, and I got away unharmed and with all my possessions too (which is what they were after). Some would call me brave or stupid, or just lucky, but for whatever reason, I managed to get out of the situation. But they held the knifes right up to my stomach, and in all honesty I was scared shitless. It's all a blur to me and part of me can't quite believe that I did manage to get away unharmed and unrobbed when they had two knives pressed right against me.

There is an increase, you are right. I have been travelling back and forth to London for most of the last decade, and I never even had anything close to an issue or even ever felt like I was in dangerous surroundings until that happened to me last year, and since then, I'm hearing more and more reports of similar situations.

I asked actually my attackers what the fuck they were doing and I think I intimidated them by actually asking them direct questions and not just handing over my wallet and phone. They began to back off and one of them said "I got a baby, I got a baby and I can't get a job". So my theory is that the increase is due to the economic downturn. Of course there's always people who are in bad situations and resort to crime, but the recession has certainly compounded the existing issue which might explain this.

That doesn't seem to relate to the situation that happened today though because it wasn't a robbery, nobody would try and rob 14 year olds in Tottenham lol, they don't have anything to begin with lol. This one just seems like a mentally ill psycopath wandering around from what I understand and what my cousin told me on the phone earlier.

that's terrible.