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Walt Disney`s "Song of the south" Anyone else like this movie?
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It's interesting that you mention this...
My class is about to read "Fences" by August Wilson, and the kids had to do an "Internet Scavenger Hunt". One of the questions was to find out information about Uncle Remus... None of the kids had heard of "Song of the South".
I only vaguely remember it... "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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it's never been releaased on dvd, in fact the only official home video releases were uk PAL vhs tapes | |
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The fear of Political Correctness is the main reason why Disney will NEVER release Song Of The South on DVD. The tar baby segment is the only issue. But other than that, the whole film is classic. | |
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wrong again. disney have already released scenes from the movie on different compilation dvds, they have had plans to release it in the past and then pulled the release, and more recently they have been considering new plans to release it due to historical significance | |
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In America, Disney has NEVER released Song Of The Song with a high level of fanfare as the other Disney amination film classics. This is exact what I mean.
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so if that's what you mean, why didn't you say that instead of saying they will never release it on dvd? they are two entirely different sentances with different meanings | |
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I have a bootleg of it on DVD. It was a gift. The reason why I was given it was in college I did a report on it and I had found a PAL VHS and had it converted to VHS. And the person that gave me the DVD wanted a copy so I gave it to him. Years later he sends me the movie on DVD-R.
Other than the early exsmple of cartoons interacting with people (on of the first 20) it offeres little worth watching. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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Well now, since I've notice that you weren't able to read between the lines, I should've been more specific. | |
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Damn I remember this movie...my whole class used to sing Zip-a-dee-doo-da.
I think my generation (those born between 1985-1992) got away with all this. I mean, this was viewable material for children (wholesome and what not). This would never pass as something viewable for kids now. We've become too anal and prudish as a society. Political correctness is now a slippery slope...
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The fact that it's a rare find plus the legend surrounding it makes it out 2 b far more offensive than it actually is. While I agree the film does make me cringe a little, it's no worse than many animated shorts and features from the 40's that were still airing on television in my childhood (the 70's). Listen to me on The House of Pop Culture podcast on itunes http://itunes.apple.com/u...d438631917 | |
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Oh please! | |
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reading between the lines has fuck all to do with it, you posted something that was a load of shit, then posted more shit when it was pointed out you posted a load of shit | |
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My bad Mr. Van Dam...I meant my generation was the last to GET AWAY with that.
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Hey, don't f***ing dare put words in my mouth OR label false charges on me! I already said that I should have been more specific. If that's not good enough to help you, then that's your personal problem, NOT mine. | |
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Exactly.
As someone from the UK, it was indeed available on PAL VHS. I even saw it on BBC as a kid. As a Disney nut, I found the film rather average and the cartoon shorts lacking in anything memorable, reminding me of Disneys other "package" films around that time, which were merely short cartoon stories or musical numbers sewn up into a feature film. These films are of interest to animation geeks like me but are in general, very average and uninspired in quality by Disney standards. "Song of the south" reminds me of just that. Only the songs "zipa dee doo dah" and perhaps "everybody's got a laughing place" are of any real significance quality wise. The only Disney feature film of that era really worth watching is the now cult movie "The three cabeleros", which includes Donald duck chasing real life south American women for about 20 minutes LOL. [Edited 1/6/11 20:02pm] | |
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It is cringe-worthy, but not as bad as Warner Bros. "Coal Black". | |
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it was nothing to do with being specific, you were just plain wrong, and it sounds like you have a problem with that, thus your cover up and subsequent crap you've posted | |
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I dont know or care where you are getting your information from, but I work for corporate legal rights administration at The Walt DIsney Studios in Burbank and I know - for a fact - that the Japanese laserdisc was indeed a legitimate product released by our Home Entertianment arm in the 1980s. Perhaps you confused this with the bootleg DVDs. Our film is not in the public domain in any territory and is indeed a copyrighted film production of Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures.
If you'd like to see the film released through home entertainment, petition the NAACP, since they are the ones with the political correctness issues. | |
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yeah it is not in PD in japan. or anywhere else. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South
Although the film has been re-released in theaters several times (most recently in 1986), Disney Enterprises has avoided making the complete version of the film directly available on home video in the United States because the frame story was deemed controversial by studio management. Film critic Roger Ebert, who normally disdains any attempt to keep films from any audience, has supported the non-release position, claiming that most Disney films become a part of the consciousness of American children, who take films more literally than do adults. However, he favors allowing film students to have access to the film.[19] Despite rumors of an imminent DVD release, Disney CEO Robert Iger stated on March 10, 2006 at a Disney Shareholder Meeting that it had been decided that the company would not re-release it for the time being.[20] At the annual shareholders meeting in March 2007, Iger announced that the company was reconsidering the decision, and have decided to look into the possibility of releasing the film.[21] In May 2007, it was again reported that the Disney company has chosen not to release the film.[22] However, rumors to the contrary continued to surface.[23] In March 2010, Disney CEO Robert Iger reiterated that there are no current plans to release the movie on DVD, calling the film 'antiquated' and 'fairly offensive'.[24] Most recently, however, on November 15th, 2010, Disney creative director Dave Bossert stated in an interview, “I can say there’s been a lot of internal discussion about 'Song of the South'. And at some point we’re going to do something about it. I don’t know when, but we will. We know we want people to see 'Song of the South' because we realize it’s a big piece of company history, and we want to do it the right way.”[25] Disney Enterprises has allowed key portions of the film to be issued on many VHS and DVD compilation videos in the U.S., as well as on the long-running Walt Disney anthology television series. Most recently, the "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" number and some of the animated portion of the movie were issued on the Alice in Wonderland 2-DVD Special Edition set, although in that instance this was originally incorporated as part of a 1950 Walt Disney TV special included on the DVD which promoted the then-forthcoming Alice in Wonderland film. The film has been released on video in its entirety in various European, Latin American and Asian countries—in the UK it was released on PAL VHS tape in 1982 and again in 1991, and in Japan (where under Japanese copyright law it is in the public domain)[26] it appeared on NTSC VHS, BETA and laserdisc with subtitles, while a NTSC laserdisc was bootlegged in Hong Kong from the UK PAL videotape. Despite the Hong Kong laserdisc being NTSC, it has a 4% faster running time due to its PAL source, and thus also suffers from "frame ghosting". While most foreign releases of the film are almost direct translations of the English title (Canción del Sur in Spanish, Mélodie du Sud in French, Melodie Van Het Zuiden in Dutch, Sången om södern in Swedish, A Canção do Sul in Portuguese, and Etelän laulu in Finnish), the German title Onkel Remus' Wunderland translates to "Uncle Remus' Wonderland", the Italian title I Racconti Dello Zio Tom translates to "The Stories of Uncle Tom",[27] and the Norwegian title Onkel Remus forteller translates roughly to "Uncle Remus tells stories".[28] Despite the film's lack of home video release directly to consumers in the United States, audio from the film—both the musical soundtrack and dialogue—were made widely available to the public from the time of the film's debut up through the late 1970s. In particular, many Book-and-Record sets were released, alternately featuring the animated portions of the film or summaries of the film as a whole.[29] Additionally, bootleg copies of the film in NTSC format, converted either from the UK PAL videotape or from a Dutch version based on the laserdisc, with subtitles made by amateurs, are widely available and have been sold in the United States at retail outlets and on online auctions with no legal action being taken by the Disney corporation.
it's strange that you work for corporate legal rights and don't care. no it's not actually, is it. corportate= don't care
i have rips of both the uk pal vhs and the jap laserdisc with subs btw | |
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I don't know which part of the planet earth you're coming from. But down here in the southern region of USA, no one has ever seen OR heard any reports about Disney releasing Song Of The South on DVD or Blu-Ray.
And illegel bootlegged DVD do not count as a proper release. Therefore, you need to | |
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with that nonsense charges about someone lying.
try reading what people are saying instead of posting a load of crap about a subject you don't know about
look at the post above yours which says...
on November 15th, 2010, Disney creative director Dave Bossert stated in an interview, “I can say there’s been a lot of internal discussion about 'Song of the South'. And at some point we’re going to do something about it. I don’t know when, but we will. We know we want people to see 'Song of the South' because we realize it’s a big piece of company history, and we want to do it the right way.”[25]
http://www.post-movie.net/?p=1840}}
 The half-sheet poster for Song of the South's 1973 theatrical re-release. I thought I lobbed huge, slow-pitch softball-like questions for another news outlet to knock one out of the park. I thought other sites would pick up on this news, especially Disney-related fansites. But I haven’t seen the statements regarding the possible release of Song of the South printed anywhere. So I thought I’d post it here on our podcast page, which makes sense since I asked the questions, you know? Last Monday, during the Q&A portion of the Fantasia: A 70th Annivers...elebration at Boston’s Museum of Fine Arts, I asked Disney creative director Dave Bossert about the animation department’s concerns with Song of the South and its much hoped for release on DVD. Here’s his response: “I can say there’s been a lot of internal discussion about [Song of the South]. And at some point we’re going to do something about it. I don’t know when, but we will. We know we want people to see Song of the South because we realize it’s a big piece of company history, and we want to do it the right way.” That’s encouraging news for those who’ve been waiting years for Disney to do something about its most culturally controversial animated title. And it’s even more encouraging because this quote doesn’t come from Disney CEO Robert Iger. It’s from Dave Bossert, the artistic supervisor for Disney’s restoration team, and an integral person in deciding which animated film next goes through the restoration and release process. He’s one of the guys who makes the case to Robert Iger. In addition to the forthcoming release of Fantasia and Fantasia 2000, Bossert supervised restorations for Bambi, Cinderella, Lady and the Tramp, The Little Mermaid and Sleeping Beauty. Song of the South fans will also find it of interest to know that, although the film is not listed in the National Film Registry, Mr. Bossert said Disney keeps the original negatives for Song of the South in a climate controlled vault at the Library of Congress’ audiovisual preservation facility in Culpeper, Virginia. Mr. Bossert assured those in attendance that all of the negatives “Are preserved to the best of the lab’s ability, until they turn to dust. Because, like all acetate negatives, they eventually will. And we can’t do anything about that.”
try a few seconds of fact checking before you post, it saves people reading a lot of shite, and you tend to post a lot of it
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This movie gets talked about a lot on the org. Is this somekind of a class project the comes up like the mission projects? Or is this a fasination for people who live outside the us to seek this out?
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there's usually a fascination with things you can't get (take the fascination of bootlegs for another example), this is also a bit of a cult movie, and perhaps due to the rerelease in 1973 and the age of most prince fans, it's quite likely that a large percentage of fans saw and loved this movie whilst a kid, and whilst other memorable movies have become easily available on home video, this hasn't, thus people haven't been able to relive those moments of childhood
on top of that, such as with a number of other cartoons from the earlier part of last centuary, some people have a fascination with the racist elements they can portray, and considering disney tries to keep a whiter than white (see what i did there?) profile, some people like to rub it in that they (surprise surprise) aren't the perfect corporation
for others the movie is interesting as one of the first to mix both live action and animation together, an early precurssor to the movies filled with cgi right now | |
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OFF-TOPIC: @unique.....If my research on the topic need some improvement, then fair enough.
But that last statement you made in your post where you accusing me for "talking shit a lot" is one of the biggest pieces of bullshit you ever said in this entire thread.
You don't know a damn thing about me anymore OR anyless that I know anything about you. But what I do know is you better knock it off with all of these fake charges you're placing on me.
A person who lacked one piece of information on a topic (whether it's about a Disney classic, or whatever) does NOT make that same person a liar. Unaware? Yes. Uneducated? Maybe. But a liar? NO!
And that is all I have to say on the matter.
@SunnySkies....My apologies to you for the inconvinence in your thread. But I needs to put Unique in check for his/her own good.
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maybe english isn't your first language, in which case it's not a good idea to pick an argument on an english based website over semantics, but the whole thing started because i made an innocent reply to correct the factual error in your post, to which you tried to cover it up by posting some other crap instead
wrong again. disney have already released scenes from the movie on different compilation dvds, they have had plans to release it in the past and then pulled the release, and more recently they have been considering new plans to release it due to historical significance
and from then on you've just posted crap on this thread without fact checking
regarding further crap you've posted, the illuminati thread you started and linked to in your sig is clearly evidence that i'm mistaken, and you don't post complete and utter shite on this site
to get back on topic, and to clarify some facts, the movie IS in the public domain in japan, regardless of what the person claiming to be a disney employee is saying, that's the person who's org profile says they are a "disney cast member" - a disney cast member being a bottom of the rung employee who does things like serve fries, take tickets, sweep floors and dress up in costumes of cartoon characters, and not someone who works in the type of capacity where they would know the legal aspect of global copywrite or whether a large corporation is considering releasing a movie or not, and not someone who is willing or able to look up information on the internet to see if the "facts" they are posting are even remotely accurate, or absolute shite
i'm not a disney employee nor expert, but i can read, i can remember, and i can and do look stuff up to check the accuracy of what i post before i post it, so when i post about this movie, i'm not plucking shit out my arse
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Wikipedia. Right. You've just confirmed for all of us that you are a ridiculous fucking human being. Not worth it. | |
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