PositivityNYC said:

tinaz said:

DEAL!!

But was he talking about his mom??

no.. I forget her name, but, it was an old girlfriend

He is pretty hot still thats for sure!!

vainandy said:

ScarletScandal said:

Finally, a conversation on the org I can participate in!!!

Now...

4 years ago, I dated a bi-sexual guy. Thing is, he didn't tell me, I had to find out. He would tell other people to tell me things about him, that he should have told me himself. For instance, he neglected to tell me that he was married before we met, and that he had 2 kids....which wouldn't have bothered me had he been upfront about it. To me, it seemed like he was ashamed of his straight side, but to others, it was like he was ashamed of his gay side. That shit is too much to deal with. We broke up because he and his best friend went out one night, and he fucked some pregnant chick in a car in an alleyway. He told a friend of mine, who told me. Later that night, he called the house, and I asked him if there was anything we needed to discuss, and he accused me of being dramatic blah blah and never wanted to see me again. I saw him 3 weeks later hanging on some girl, then that same night, he was trying to hook back up with me. Too much fucking drama. Bi-sexuals can go fuck their mommas. It is RARE that I have met a bi-sexual guy who hasn't had issues with either side of his sexuality. Females are no problem. I have bi-sexual female friends, and I have seen them in genuine relationships with both sexes. With the guys, it's a whole other thing. I've seen bi-sexual guys with gay guys, and they'll be QUICK to say that they're "bi", before they'll admit to being gay. It's as if they have a problem with being gay themselves, yet, have no problem dating gay men. That shit is twisted to me. At least with a gay guy, I know he's always gonna like dick, and I would be more than willing to supply. But no, I would never date one again. Before I even met my ex, I used to tell people that I wouldn't date a bi-sexual guy, out of fear of him cheating on me or leaving me for a female, and I was hoping he would prove me wrong....so much for hope.

You're lucky. I've never had the bastards tell me they were anything other than "straight" which absolutely pisses me off to no end. How the hell can your ass be straight if another man has sucked your dick? Yes, they have a problem with being gay and most of them hate us. They just like the pleasure we can give them when we are their last resort if they didn't get a woman that night.

I've grown to hate the bastards over the years because I'm not going to let anyone think they are above me, especially someone who is engaging in a homosexual act themselves. Since they try to justify that they are straight because they aren't the ones doing the sucking, I turn the tables on them. I get them motherfuckers right up to the point of getting ready to come and then I stop and say..."Now motherfucker, you're going to suck me off if you want me to finish you off". Many of them do it....hell, the majority of them do it. Then I tell them "Now, you're just as much a faggott as I am" to piss them off.

I don't fool with them anymore if I can help it because all they do is get my blood pressure up and piss me off. I get sick of the arguements, plus a lot of them are some dangerous motherfuckers also. But you're right, most of them I've seen are not to be trusted and have no respect for men or women. They just want "something" to get them off.

Bisexual women, on the other hand, I have seen be either with a man at one time, or with a woman at one time, but most of them aren't running fucking both sexes behind their partners back and the most important thing is, they will admit that they are bisexual where these no good men won't.

At least YOU feel me Andy! And you're right.

tinaz said:

PositivityNYC said:

no.. I forget her name, but, it was an old girlfriend

He is pretty hot still thats for sure!!

I'm pretty sure I already have - it was not-confirmed by him, but I have suspicions he's married with kids now, but that doesn't mean he wasn't into boys too.

A man propositioned me in a bar once, asking if I would like to partake in a threesome. He was not attractive to me, but I felt like messing with him (he deserved it!!! ) so I said "Sure! as long as you let me pick the other guy!" and he hastily excused himself.

Sure.

If he's loyal to whomever he's with, whether it be male or female, what does it matter?

Yes I would....

I hate to be narrow minded about anything but probably not and simply for the reasons stated by Erin and Chocolate

I don't care about his past as long as it stays in the past and he is loyal to me.

Maturity is what it is, either you are ready for ONE lover to grow with or you are not. All men have dicks and all desire is the same. So as long as he only plans on putting his dick in me only, its all good.

vainandy said:

Exactly. The porn industry has painted a totally unrealistic picture of how bisexual women are. They paint a picture of two beautiful lipstick lesbians together that let a man join in with them during sex. Well, 90% of the lesbian couples I have seen, whether gay or bisexual, have been a beautiful feminine lipstick lesbian with an ultra masculine butch bulldagger. First of all, I doubt there are very few men that would be turned on watching sex and joining in with that type of couple. Secondly, that bulldagger has no interest in a man whatseover so she's not going to join in with him anyway. And thirdly, even if her girlfriend wants to have a threesome with a man while she's with her, she's going to be beat her ass (and she should beat her ass).

That lipstick lesbian threesome with the man joining in is just unrealistic fantasy created by the porn industry. Yeah, it happens sometimes but the women are usually drug addicts or just plain out sluts. I have, however, seen men who may not want a threesome with two beautiful lipstick lesbians, but try to see if he can sleep with a lipstick lesbian and see if he can take her away from her bulldagger. It's strictly to boost his ego like he's somebody that's all that. Well, I fixed on those bastards one night. I told a bulldagger friend of mine to tell a motherfucker he could have a threesome with the two of them, but if they were going to have a threesome, it wasn't going to be the type of threesome he wants. I told her to tell that motherfucker that he has to let her fuck him up with ass with her strap-on and that neither one of them were going to touch his dick and he wouldn't be allowed to touch the two of them whatsoever. Well, she told him that and she never had a problem out of that bastard harassing them again.

You ain't neva lied.

paintedlady said:

I don't care about his past as long as it stays in the past and he is loyal to me.

Maturity is what it is, either you are ready for ONE lover to grow with or you are not. All men have dicks and all desire is the same. So as long as he only plans on putting his dick in me only, its all good.

Yeah I guess that kinda sums it up for me too. But I guess I would still be worried if I can fully satisfy him for a long period of time. But if he assures me that's not a problem and if I love him I would go for it.

Serious said:

paintedlady said:

I don't care about his past as long as it stays in the past and he is loyal to me.

Maturity is what it is, either you are ready for ONE lover to grow with or you are not. All men have dicks and all desire is the same. So as long as he only plans on putting his dick in me only, its all good.

Yeah I guess that kinda sums it up for me too. But I guess I would still be worried if I can fully satisfy him for a long period of time. But if he assures me that's not a problem and if I love him I would go for it.

Yeah, that can happen in any relationship. Can't take a man for granted and communicate effectively. Hetero men cheat too.

I don't know, men are men to me, despite sexual orientation. Am I over simplifying things?

paintedlady said:

Serious said:

Yeah I guess that kinda sums it up for me too. But I guess I would still be worried if I can fully satisfy him for a long period of time. But if he assures me that's not a problem and if I love him I would go for it.

Yeah, that can happen in any relationship. Can't take a man for granted and communicate effectively. Hetero men cheat too.

I don't know, men are men to me, despite sexual orientation. Am I over simplifying things?

It's just that a totally different way of sex will be missing for him that I cannot give to him. But yeah like you said, you can never be sure. I am lucky though as I never had to worry about that for many years.

yes.... just to straighten him out!!!!

No.

It's too many hoez without conscience out here from my side of the fence to deal with...the hell I want to introduce a whole new set of variables into the equation for?

Ottensen said:

No.

It's too many hoez without conscience out here from my side of the fence to deal with...the hell I want to introduce a whole new set of variables into the equation for?

^^ My point exactly!

chocolate1 said:

PunkMistress said:

CarrieMpls said:

bisexual does not = non-monogamous

Can we be clear about that here?

Bisexual simply means they'll date both men and women - not that they MUST date both at the same time.

Thank you!

The original post assumes that my marriage is full of three-ways and Chris watching me fuck girls.

I fuck Chris. That's all. I still love women and will always be attracted to and fantasize about them, but I don't touch anyone except him.

Now you're the type of bisexual I like.

ScarletScandal said:

vainandy said:

You're lucky. I've never had the bastards tell me they were anything other than "straight" which absolutely pisses me off to no end. How the hell can your ass be straight if another man has sucked your dick? Yes, they have a problem with being gay and most of them hate us. They just like the pleasure we can give them when we are their last resort if they didn't get a woman that night.

I've grown to hate the bastards over the years because I'm not going to let anyone think they are above me, especially someone who is engaging in a homosexual act themselves. Since they try to justify that they are straight because they aren't the ones doing the sucking, I turn the tables on them. I get them motherfuckers right up to the point of getting ready to come and then I stop and say..."Now motherfucker, you're going to suck me off if you want me to finish you off". Many of them do it....hell, the majority of them do it. Then I tell them "Now, you're just as much a faggott as I am" to piss them off.

I don't fool with them anymore if I can help it because all they do is get my blood pressure up and piss me off. I get sick of the arguements, plus a lot of them are some dangerous motherfuckers also. But you're right, most of them I've seen are not to be trusted and have no respect for men or women. They just want "something" to get them off.

Bisexual women, on the other hand, I have seen be either with a man at one time, or with a woman at one time, but most of them aren't running fucking both sexes behind their partners back and the most important thing is, they will admit that they are bisexual where these no good men won't.

At least YOU feel me Andy! And you're right.

Oh honey, I've had my run-ins in my time with them motherfuckers. They're one of the big reasons I'm as mean as I am. I didn't take no shit off no racist motherfuckers growing up so I had plenty of practice not taking no shit. I sure as hell ain't gonna take no shit off no wanna be straight, in the closet, hypocritical piece of trade trash.

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[Edited 12/29/10 6:53am]

ZombieKitten said:

I'm pretty sure I already have - it was not-confirmed by him, but I have suspicions he's married with kids now, but that doesn't mean he wasn't into boys too.

A man propositioned me in a bar once, asking if I would like to partake in a threesome. He was not attractive to me, but I felt like messing with him (he deserved it!!! ) so I said "Sure! as long as you let me pick the other guy!" and he hastily excused himself.

Alll-Riiiiiight dammitt!!!!! And the fact that he wants to be with you and another woman but he won't be with you and another man, means he thinks y'all are beneath him and that he's better than y'all. Knock that fucker down off of that pedastol he thinks he's on.

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[Edited 12/29/10 6:46am]

uPtoWnNY said:

vainandy said:

Exactly. The porn industry has painted a totally unrealistic picture of how bisexual women are. They paint a picture of two beautiful lipstick lesbians together that let a man join in with them during sex. Well, 90% of the lesbian couples I have seen, whether gay or bisexual, have been a beautiful feminine lipstick lesbian with an ultra masculine butch bulldagger. First of all, I doubt there are very few men that would be turned on watching sex and joining in with that type of couple. Secondly, that bulldagger has no interest in a man whatseover so she's not going to join in with him anyway. And thirdly, even if her girlfriend wants to have a threesome with a man while she's with her, she's going to be beat her ass (and she should beat her ass).

That lipstick lesbian threesome with the man joining in is just unrealistic fantasy created by the porn industry. Yeah, it happens sometimes but the women are usually drug addicts or just plain out sluts. I have, however, seen men who may not want a threesome with two beautiful lipstick lesbians, but try to see if he can sleep with a lipstick lesbian and see if he can take her away from her bulldagger. It's strictly to boost his ego like he's somebody that's all that. Well, I fixed on those bastards one night. I told a bulldagger friend of mine to tell a motherfucker he could have a threesome with the two of them, but if they were going to have a threesome, it wasn't going to be the type of threesome he wants. I told her to tell that motherfucker that he has to let her fuck him up with ass with her strap-on and that neither one of them were going to touch his dick and he wouldn't be allowed to touch the two of them whatsoever. Well, she told him that and she never had a problem out of that bastard harassing them again.

You ain't neva lied.

Damn right. Like LaWanda Page used to say...."I'm gonna tell it like it T-I-Is!".

ZombieKitten said:

I'm pretty sure I already have - it was not-confirmed by him, but I have suspicions he's married with kids now, but that doesn't mean he wasn't into boys too.

A man propositioned me in a bar once, asking if I would like to partake in a threesome. He was not attractive to me, but I felt like messing with him (he deserved it!!! ) so I said "Sure! as long as you let me pick the other guy!" and he hastily excused himself.

an ex of mine would sometimes ask if I'd do a threesome; him, me & another girl (he had had one once with a friend and her sister [which I thought was just gross... sex while a sibling watches/helps out??])... and I'd always say no....

one day I decided to mess with him and I said "Sure..."

he got all

then I said, "and next time, it's me, you and a guy of my choosing...."

him:

he never asked again..

he was such a phobe... -- lesbians were ok [he had that stupid porn fantasy stuck in his head], but gay guys?? [soooo glad that one ended! ]

[Edited 12/29/10 8:18am]

PositivityNYC said:

ZombieKitten said:

I'm pretty sure I already have - it was not-confirmed by him, but I have suspicions he's married with kids now, but that doesn't mean he wasn't into boys too.

A man propositioned me in a bar once, asking if I would like to partake in a threesome. He was not attractive to me, but I felt like messing with him (he deserved it!!! ) so I said "Sure! as long as you let me pick the other guy!" and he hastily excused himself.

an ex of mine would sometimes ask if I'd do a threesome; him, me & another girl (he had had one once with a friend and her sister [which I thought was just gross... sex while a sibling watches/helps out??])... and I'd always say no....

one day I decided to mess with him and I said "Sure..."

he got all

then I said, "and next time, it's me, you and a guy of my choosing...."

him:

he never asked again..

he was such a phobe... -- lesbians were ok [he had that stupid porn fantasy stuck in his head], but gay guys?? [soooo glad that one ended! ]

[Edited 12/29/10 8:18am]

My bf would love to have a threesome with me and another woman that I could choose. He would even be okay to have one with me and another man if I would agree to the one with 2 women even though that is nothing he would want to do . But he knows that I won't agree and he accepts that. Even though he still hopes I might change my mind one day.

PunkMistress said:

CarrieMpls said:

bisexual does not = non-monogamous

Can we be clear about that here?

Bisexual simply means they'll date both men and women - not that they MUST date both at the same time.

Thank you!

The original post assumes that my marriage is full of three-ways and Chris watching me fuck girls.

I fuck Chris. That's all. I still love women and will always be attracted to and fantasize about them, but I don't touch anyone except him.

I love you!

vainandy said:

ScarletScandal said:

At least YOU feel me Andy! And you're right.

Oh honey, I've had my run-ins in my time with them motherfuckers. They're one of the big reasons I'm as mean as I am. I didn't take no shit off no racist motherfuckers growing up so I had plenty of practice not taking no shit. I sure as hell ain't gonna take no shit off no wanna be straight, in the closet, hypocritical piece of trade trash.

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[Edited 12/29/10 6:53am]

CHURCH!!!!!

vainandy said:

PunkMistress said:

Thank you!

The original post assumes that my marriage is full of three-ways and Chris watching me fuck girls.

I fuck Chris. That's all. I still love women and will always be attracted to and fantasize about them, but I don't touch anyone except him.

Now you're the type of bisexual I like.

Yeah, Mistress is fierce

You'll never hear a bi-sexual guy say something like that!! And MEAN it! I was in a club one night sitting at the bar, and there was this young guy sitting a few stools down from me. This older guy came over and started talking to him, and he was like "Sorry hun, I'm not gay, i'm Bi..."

btw...

where's Meow85? Back in the day, she and I would go for blows over this very topic!

ScarletScandal said:

where's Meow85? Back in the day, she and I would go for blows over this very topic!

The last time I remember reading her posts is when she got all bent out of shape over tats and piercings in the workplace a few months back.

ScarletScandal said:

vainandy said:

Now you're the type of bisexual I like.

Yeah, Mistress is fierce

You'll never hear a bi-sexual guy say something like that!! And MEAN it! I was in a club one night sitting at the bar, and there was this young guy sitting a few stools down from me. This older guy came over and started talking to him, and he was like "Sorry hun, I'm not gay, i'm Bi..."

That makes no sense. I would have told him...."OK, you're bi, which means you like both genders, so what's the problem? There are only two genders so what the hell do I look like to you....some type of unknown third gender or something?".

vainandy said:

ScarletScandal said:

Yeah, Mistress is fierce

You'll never hear a bi-sexual guy say something like that!! And MEAN it! I was in a club one night sitting at the bar, and there was this young guy sitting a few stools down from me. This older guy came over and started talking to him, and he was like "Sorry hun, I'm not gay, i'm Bi..."

That makes no sense. I would have told him...."OK, you're bi, which means you like both genders, so what's the problem? There are only two genders so what the hell do I look like to you....some type of unknown third gender or something?".

That's too much gay math for me.

ScarletScandal said:

vainandy said:

Now you're the type of bisexual I like.

where's Meow85? Back in the day, she and I would go for blows over this very topic!

We used to debate this often together. I think she may believe that there is a difference in bisexual men and trade men. I see them as one in the same except trade is just a type of bisexual man. Trade is a type of bisexual man who lives in denial and refuses to accept that he's anything other than "straight". He thinks as long as he's not the one doing the sucking or getting fucked that he's straight. He also has no problem bashing and robbing gay men because in his mind, they are beneath him because he's "straight". A lot of them these days, when they get caught red handed in the middle of a homosexual sex act such as getting his dick sucked by another man, have resorted to justifying it as being "a straight man experimenting". Honey, a straight man don't experiment letting other men suck their dick just because an orgasm feels the same no matter who's giving it. No way. If he's going to experience the pleasure we can give him, I'm going to see to it that he faces the same hate and discrimination that we face because he deserves it since he's one of the ones dishing out the hate and discrimination himself.

From what I've seen and experienced with many men who actually call themselves bisexual, is that a lot of them are really full fledged queens who have no desire for a woman whatsoever but call themselves bisexual hoping they won't catch as much hell from the homophobic world as they would catch if they called themselves full fledged gay. Well, in the homophobic world, when it comes to gay or bisexual men, does not care if you are a little gay or a lot gay. They hate you just the same. The homophobic world is only more tolerant of bisexual women moreso than gay women because those homophobic perverts think they might stand a chance at sleeping with them.

vainandy said:

ScarletScandal said:

where's Meow85? Back in the day, she and I would go for blows over this very topic!

We used to debate this often together. I think she may believe that there is a difference in bisexual men and trade men. I see them as one in the same except trade is just a type of bisexual man. Trade is a type of bisexual man who lives in denial and refuses to accept that he's anything other than "straight". He thinks as long as he's not the one doing the sucking or getting fucked that he's straight. He also has no problem bashing and robbing gay men because in his mind, they are beneath him because he's "straight". A lot of them these days, when they get caught red handed in the middle of a homosexual sex act such as getting his dick sucked by another man, have resorted to justifying it as being "a straight man experimenting". Honey, a straight man don't experiment letting other men suck their dick just because an orgasm feels the same no matter who's giving it. No way. If he's going to experience the pleasure we can give him, I'm going to see to it that he faces the same hate and discrimination that we face because he deserves it since he's one of the ones dishing out the hate and discrimination himself.

From what I've seen and experienced with many men who actually call themselves bisexual, is that a lot of them are really full fledged queens who have no desire for a woman whatsoever but call themselves bisexual hoping they won't catch as much hell from the homophobic world as they would catch if they called themselves full fledged gay. Well, in the homophobic world, when it comes to gay or bisexual men, does not care if you are a little gay or a lot gay. They hate you just the same. The homophobic world is only more tolerant of bisexual women moreso than gay women because those homophobic perverts think they might stand a chance at sleeping with them.

FOR REAL REAL!!!

Oh! I've also met the ones that do EVERYTHING but kiss...because it's "gay"

In fact, I hooked up with a guy this past summer, and had me do damn near everything else to him, but when I went up to kiss him, he was like "I don't kiss guys"