I so wish everyone thought so and were treated equally, but we aren't so....
heck I get shit for telling people I'm American. I get crap from all sides when I say that. I keep getting the
"But where are your parents from?" I answer "America"
and either say one of two things: :confused: "But you aren't white are you?" or "are you sure?"
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there's always the "decline to state" option.
My mom is white and my dad is Decline to State. We celebrate Christmas, but we are not allowed to discuss how Jesus had blue eyes.
I guess that makes me half-racial My Legacy
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Why not just say the truth and have it accepted? It just shouldn't be an issue ya know? | |
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I agree (I was joking, I say I am white), but when you say "American" aren't you avoiding the question a little yourself?
Or maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that when someone asked what race you were that you answered "American"
But now I think I understand, you just mean that when you say you are American people get confused. I don't think those people's intentions are bad, they are just curious about who you are. [Edited 12/22/10 19:01pm] My Legacy
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I say American because I feel that I actually am. My grandmom was born in NYC.
But I guess you are right, I just meet lots of folks that say "I'm American/Canadian/Italian/Irish/Nigerian/Korean/Dominican/etc."
They never say "Caucasian/Asian/Black" so I never say, "Hispanic" .
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HAHAHA, kinda funny how people
get on their high horse when race is metioned. And FTR puerto ricans aren't black bu mixed with it. You don' have o be one to know when you mix several races thee child is more than 1 race. You mentioned Ricans have 30% black ancestory. Well they've also got latino. Hispanics are half indian half spanish. So that makes hem 3 races. And if we agree i takes alteast 75% to call you self a particular race then peurto ricans are faaar from it.
We are all human...yeah that's true and even though race doesn't exist in the scientific sense we do have divisions we recognize just like them. And although race means species in biology there's also 3 recognized races by anthropology. Mongoloid ,negroid, and caucasoid are the 3 main races of main. Europeans, mid-easterners, and south asians makeup caucasoid. Africans makeup negrroid. And then asians,polynesians, and native americans makeu mongoloid. Don't know what they're all called but when negroid and caucasoid mix they're called mulatto..
At any rate their is no american race but nationality. The only race of people who could claim to be american are native americans. Hmm well I dunno if latinos are a race and are mixed so are we. Even though we are all one race or nationality we don't recognize it. 1 because american cultures are so different we see ourselves as seperate peoples who came from different continents.While in reality our cultures have mixed our races have even more. See every country has it's own nationality and everyone in that country is of that nationalilty. We are but we breakk ours into subnationalities. Most of us have black, white , and indian in us. Now we don't have hem equally balanced. The 3 races are the american part. So if you are asian and your family is from here you are asian-american. African-. caucasian-. latino-, and native-american are all the counterparts. So you're whatever your primary is -american.
*laughing* As i said when race comes into he picture people stop thinking logically and start acting stuid. So infact that no one's answered my question. A what point do you stop being a particular race and start being bi or multiracial? Working up a purple sweat. | |
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Repeatedly insulting the people who've responded in your thread is generally not the best way to garner more interest.
Also, in regards to your last post, what?!
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I guess by that highly flawed theory then many Afriacn Americans are not Black either. ((( Hey UptownNY, dude! YOU ARE NOT BLACK!! Make a note. )))
I am not on a high horse, I just don't appreciate someone telling me what I am or am not when they have never studied MY culture and know little of my people.
You need to meet my family members and tell these very dark hued, nappy headed, wide-nosed people that they are not black.
I am well aware of many blended races, and yes, someone has answered your question: The answer was multi-racial. Which I also agree with.
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I'm glad you understood what they were trying to say. Didn't make a lick o' sense to me. | |
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I try.. | |
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Guess Fluid took A class, and read A book.... and just rolled with it. [Edited 12/22/10 22:09pm] | |
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How a person can write there are 3 races (asian, african, and caucasian) and then continue to insist Latino is a race? Anyway as I said in various threads, all DNA originated in Africa. That makes everyone African. Everything rlse is just mutations and permutations. That means there is no "multiracial"; it's just some bullshit humans devised to feel superior and cause division. There really is only on human race, designed to come in varying hues, heights and shapes so we don't get confused when we see each other. Just like there are different types of trees, they are still all trees. Now if you want to represent for your culture, by all means, knock yourself out! Better still learn about and embrace other cultures to enrich your mind and life experiences. It is good that we are all different and have something to share with each other! | |
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Agreed!
I love learning from other people about their cultures! I also think the "race" issue is more of a culture issue. IMHO.
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especially since [for the billionth time...], Latino is not a race, but an ethnicity (since you can be any "race" [or mixture of] and be from a Latin country -- that is what makes you Latino; you or your family being from a Spanish-speaking nation/locale.. not your color, or being a specific mix [are there even any full Tainos left in PR??]..)
and, btw, any 2 races used to be categorized as "mulatto" [I say 'used to be' b/c it is not used anymore; it's derogatory...] - not just black and white
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Fuck all ya'll, I'm checking quadroon on the next census. | |
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But American is not a race, it's a nationality (unless you mean Native American).
Not that it matters, I agree, but if people want to know what your ethnic heritage is, it's sometimes hard to ask, and the intent may not be bad but simply curiosity. [Edited 12/23/10 9:59am] My Legacy
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That's why I say American! Who's got time or energy to talk about anything other than culture... why should it matter really? | |
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Let me clear this up for fluid and some others a bit. No Black-American/African-Americans(U.S. born or Caribbean-Blacks) will ever be of 100% Black-African ethnicity, unless they're born of two parents from a particular African-ethnic group. I noticed the Black Caribbeans in Haiti were mentioned, and yes they are the closest to having more African-ethnicity than other Caribbean-born Blacks and American Blacks, because when the captured Africans won their independence there before it was called "Haiti" (formerly known as "Ayti" which is what that island was called when the Arawaks/Tainos occupied it) before captured Africans were brought there), many Africans stayed on the island of Haiti, and were able to create generations of other Africans, with less mixing than other inhabitants on the other Caribbean islands.
The majority of the other Caribbean islands were heavily mixed, because many were conquered/obtained/owned by Spaniards, Danish, French, British, etc, and if you visit many of those islands today, you will still see much of the historic architecture that was built when many Europeans controlled those islands, and many of the Caribbean islands are still French, American and British-owned. All of those islands cultures are a mix of of every group that laid a foot on those islands to where it is known today as the "West Indian" culture.
I've always figured it was termed that(and this is my own opinion) because of the many West Africans brought there by the Europeans to work as slaves on the Caribbean plantations, and the indigenous (native) tribes that occupied the Caribbean first. Point is, Black Americans (U.S. born) and Caribbean Blacks are a multiracial group that share similar cultures/histories/various dialects and various skin tones, which they have basically molded into what is called "Black culture, " which is also more than just defining one's skin tone. Some of us define ourselves as Black, African-American or just "Human"<--. Defining ourselves is all individual choice and what makes that individual comfortable with defining who they are. Despite my parents or maternal/paternal-great-grandparents/grandparents' Caribbean backgrounds, I define myself as a Black- American with Caribbean roots, because racially/ethnically that is what I am, and I'm at comfort with that. Just my two cents.
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that's a good point. Who cares what "color" you are? We're more defined by our culture (or ethnicity) than our race. My Legacy
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I was told as a kid that it's called the "West Indies" b/c of that Columbus mistake ~ you know, he thought he was taking a shortcut to India by heading west, so when he landed in the Caribbean/the Americas, he called the people Indians. Europeans didn't know/care to use the right names, so they just referred to the region as The West Indies (to be distinct from real Indians, in/from India, who were/are sometimes called East Indian) Hag. Muse. Web Goddess. Taurean. Tree Hugger. Poet. Professional Nerd. Geek.
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Neither is "Latino"... its a culture, so is American, so is PR.
I guess I could technically say "all of them'" but then I would get called a smartass. | |
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When I get "What are you?"
sometimes I'll say Human.. or Female.. ~ just to see the face.. Hag. Muse. Web Goddess. Taurean. Tree Hugger. Poet. Professional Nerd. Geek.
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but it's hard for some people to phrase the question, "what is your ancestors' ethnic heritage?" My Legacy
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I do try but it is hard to answer as well as it is to ask the question. I really don't know, other than saying I am part of the Black culture in the carribean islands.
I wish slave owners kept records, really. [Edited 12/23/10 14:06pm] | |
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I will say i'm Black American or American before I say African-American. My husband is 100% African -BUT I don't like it when people say- oh he's African- Look people-Africa is a huge continent- at least ask him what country he is from- it's the same when people group all "africans" together and say those Africans, etc....
I am not African-American trust me- my skin is brown and my hair is nappy but I'm not sure which one of my ancestors stepped off the continent and when. I grew up here in the US and so did my mom and her mom and her mom and her mom...... LOVE HARD. | |
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oh, I know.. lol -- it's just that after 3 decades of questions.... you get a little playful especially if they emphasize the 'are' as in What are you?? - with screwed up face like I'm a weird-looking alien freak or something... Hag. Muse. Web Goddess. Taurean. Tree Hugger. Poet. Professional Nerd. Geek.
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" i'm K-Paxian" LOVE HARD. | |
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yeah, that is a pretty bad way to ask the question.
I have never asked someone "what are you" unless they had horns and a tail. My Legacy
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