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Genetics test reveal that King Tut’s DNA is Western European

Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.

The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.

Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.

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Reply #1 posted 12/21/10 5:21am

SherryJackson

*smh...

I don't believe this...as an Egyptian myself, I would say this is highly unlikely and they should actually provide credible analysis and the actual results. Anybody could've leaked this.

But hey, if it's true, who cares? We're all brethren anyways.

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Reply #2 posted 12/21/10 5:26am

Graycap23

Of course it is.confused

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Reply #3 posted 12/21/10 5:30am

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as if you watch all these movies with ppl attacking and taking over each others land...the size of like the roman empire. were all just human. enough said.

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Reply #4 posted 12/21/10 8:00am

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So let me get this straight...

You are citing as authoritative a 7-month-old "story" from the friggin' eutimes.net!?! neutral A story without a single quote. A story without a single named or unnamed source. A story without even a credited writer? (In fact, just look, no stories on eutimes.net appear to have credited writers!) ...A story that concludes by endorsing a book by white supremacist author Arthur Kemp? hmm Interesting, purplemansion.

Here's a hint, in case you seriously know nothing about eutimes.net: Peruse the content. See the Genocide section dedicated to eliciting confusion around Holocaust scholarship and painting Holocaust deniers as victims of an international pro-Jewish lobby. See the Homosexuality section designed to "report" the ebb and flow of a tacit international gay agenda. See the Biology section designed to pander the delusion of scientific consensus around race and its effects on history, crime, population unsustainability, etc. See the Survival section dedicated to scaring people into thinking an insurgence of Muslims and people of color threaten humanity in general and whites in particular. See the European Pride section dedicated to rallying right-wing activism in Europe, North America and Australia. If this doesn't give you some inkling as to the type of site eutimes.net is, maybe this lonely flash of candor from the Careers section will:

"Your political affiliation must NOT be leftist in any way. We are strongly against communism, neo-communism and other leftist dictatorial political ideologies that destroyed Europe. We are the one and only TRUE European conservative newspaper. We intend to preserve our rich European culture, religion, history and ethnic makeup."

(Incidentally, one might find it curious that no paid jobs are ever available on the site... perhaps because it's composed by a fixed network of bloggers. That it operates like a genuine news outlet is a ruse.)

Long story short, eutimes.net is not a reputable news source. It is a repository of right-wing extremist rhetoric littered with occasional decoy stories and ads to make it appear mainline. For kicks, I may actually contact some of its "advertisers" tomorrow to see if they actually have accounts with the site. I'm guessing they have no idea they even appear there. D.a.n.g.e.r.o.u.s.

As to the claims, if the allegations of the original article hold any water (and ultimately they may or may not), you likely will have found them echoed across a swath of more reputable informational sources. As it were, the obscure blogs and outlets I've seen that have picked up with discussion -- most of which have equally suspect agendas -- seem generally to defer back to eutimes.net. Moreover, neither Egyptologist Zahi Hawass, who is supposedly hiding this info, nor geneticist Whit Athey, whose haplogroup predictor's results are supposedly the basis of these claims, have shown any inkling of interest in this internet rumor, if they know it exists at all. You may want to reconsider the value of disseminating such content as touchoff for any discussion of real benefit. This stuff is designed to do little but rabble rouse.

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Reply #5 posted 12/21/10 8:11am

SavonOsco

Oh I get it!...King Tut wasn't African..oh, like the reports Cleopatra wasn't African ,I could see that....or how some people actually think Egypt isn't in Africa but in the middle east...or according to the USA,if you live in Africa north of the Sahara Desert,you're considered European?!!...uh,yeah ...ok...GTFO!!!

So when that good old DNA test revealed that that tribe in Ethiopia has the same genes as Jews in Isreal,it went quietly under the rug and said more test needed to be done....uh yeah,ok...
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Reply #6 posted 12/21/10 10:05am

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SavonOsco said:

Oh I get it!...King Tut wasn't African..oh, like the reports Cleopatra wasn't African

confused

I think what was discussed was Cleopatra being black.

Some people make the connection African=black too quickly.

Mediterranean countries both in southern Europe and northern Africa are ethnically close.

More than Mediterranean and Subsaharan Africans.

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Reply #7 posted 12/21/10 11:15am

SavonOsco

PANDURITO said:



SavonOsco said:


Oh I get it!...King Tut wasn't African..oh, like the reports Cleopatra wasn't African

confused



I think what was discussed was Cleopatra being black.



Some people make the connection African=black too quickly.



Mediterranean countries both in southern Europe and northern Africa are ethnically close.


More than Mediterranean and Subsaharan Africans.



So why didn't you take my whole statement?..where I say "I can see that"..This is how things go wrong Pandy.. ..


And u actually agree with what I'm saying about African
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Reply #8 posted 12/21/10 11:21am

SavonOsco

I'm tired of the division by this country based on skin tone...my wifes Aunt and uncle having to check European on forms when they live in Africa and have darker skin than me...that doesn't make a lick of sense...if you live in Africa,no matter what part and no matter what skin tone..you should be able to mark "African" in the United States of America ..It makes no sense that as a government employee,my yearly review has my dark ass listed as white ....my rants over...I'm off to work
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Reply #9 posted 12/21/10 12:15pm

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It's just about the the fact that they're blatantly lying and manipulating the findings of East African skulls and DNA. They know damn fucking well that East Africans carry genes for small noses and frequently carry skulls with far less to no prognathism WITH NO MIXTURE. The truth is. KMTic people were the Ethiopians, Somalians, Eritreans, and Sudanese. The skull skin color and hair red ochre paintings etc all prove that. There is no reason for Arabs and whites to try to claim black accomplishments that have nothing to do with them. There is no reason for ANYONE to claim ANY accomplishment of ANY other ancient (other meaning even people of their own continent or country) people really. Everyone in reality, is an individual. But it is important our people aren't lied to because people frequently identify themselves with the great people and/or accomplishments from their continent of genetic origin. Whites and Arabs have been doing this bullshit forever. Although the greeks clearly describe them as black and all culture and history connects to African culture and history. Euros weren't even around when KMT was spawned. And tuts parents were clearly black. These people are fucking crazy.

"Native African populations are phenotypically "polytypic", that is, there exists in Africa a variety of phenotypes (faces and/or body shapes) that may differ from the stereotypical "Negro", falsely formed and firmly fixed within the rigid imagination and classification of Eurocentric observers. Crawford outlines six of these variants or types. I shall, lest they be lost to students, highlight the main features of these types. There is the Elogated variant, to which General Aidid, who fought our troops to a standoff in Somalia, belongs. This variant is distinguished by an elongated body build, narrow head, face and nose, dark skin and spiralled hair, thick but not everted lips, They range from long to moderately long-headed, with a narrow nasal opening, long narrow face and mild to absent prognathism (that is, with either slightly protruding or non-protruding upper jaw/lower face). this stands in contrast to the classical Negro type but are indigenous, unmixed Africans. They were living in Africa long before Egypt was born. The Elogated type includes the Fulani, the Tutsi and the Hima (Rwanda) the Masai (Kenya) the Galla (Ethiopia) the Somalis (Somalia) and the Beja (Northern Sudan)." I believe Ivan Van Sertima Explained this Ph. D

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Reply #10 posted 12/21/10 12:59pm

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All DNA originated in Africa....
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Reply #11 posted 12/21/10 1:44pm

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Reply #12 posted 12/21/10 2:08pm

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BklynBabe said:

All DNA originated in Africa....

THANK.YOU.

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Reply #13 posted 12/21/10 2:40pm

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purplemansionFL said:

Genetics test reveal that King Tut’s DNA is Western European

hmmm

My guess would be French

It has that Certain 'Je Ne Sais Quoi'

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Reply #14 posted 12/21/10 3:29pm

Timmy84

I don't even care anymore, like I didn't care about Cleopatra's heritage. I put that stuff in the past. White people live and have lived in Africa for centuries. Africa is the cradle of ALL civilization anyway.

[Edited 12/21/10 7:30am]

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Reply #15 posted 12/21/10 4:07pm

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I got accosted by King Tut last night at McDonald's. No, really.

I walked in and there was this short, drunk homeless dude trying to buy two cheeseburgers. But the counter guy said he'd been told by the manager not to sell him any food. So the dude got real mad and started screaming that he had "green money".

He turned to me and said, "Look! I got green money! I want cheeseburgers!"

I guess I looked like the manager because then he said to me, "You need to fire every one in here! Every last one of them! I come back tomorrow, they better all be fired! I'm King Tut, so don't you mess with me! You front me and I WILL start throwing punches!"

Then he left.

But I have to say that King Tut was not Western European at all. Looked more like Third Ward Houston.

My life is never boring.

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Reply #16 posted 12/21/10 4:21pm

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RodeoSchro said:

I got accosted by King Tut last night at McDonald's. No, really.

I walked in and there was this short, drunk homeless dude trying to buy two cheeseburgers. But the counter guy said he'd been told by the manager not to sell him any food. So the dude got real mad and started screaming that he had "green money".

He turned to me and said, "Look! I got green money! I want cheeseburgers!"

I guess I looked like the manager because then he said to me, "You need to fire every one in here! Every last one of them! I come back tomorrow, they better all be fired! I'm King Tut, so don't you mess with me! You front me and I WILL start throwing punches!"

Then he left.

But I have to say that King Tut was not Western European at all. Looked more like Third Ward Houston.

My life is never boring.

falloff You stoopid!

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Reply #17 posted 12/21/10 4:25pm

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steve martin said king tut

was a honkey years ago

How is it you feel?
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Reply #18 posted 12/21/10 4:35pm

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orger said:

steve martin said king tut

was a honkey years ago

The technical term is "whitey" geek

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Reply #19 posted 12/21/10 4:39pm

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SCNDLS said:

orger said:

steve martin said king tut

was a honkey years ago

The technical term is "whitey" geek

but whitey doesnt ryhme with donkey

rolleyes

How is it you feel?
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Reply #20 posted 12/21/10 4:52pm

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purplemansionFL said:

Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.

The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.

Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.

No comment confused

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Reply #21 posted 12/21/10 6:46pm

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SCNDLS said:



RodeoSchro said:


I got accosted by King Tut last night at McDonald's. No, really.



I walked in and there was this short, drunk homeless dude trying to buy two cheeseburgers. But the counter guy said he'd been told by the manager not to sell him any food. So the dude got real mad and started screaming that he had "green money".



He turned to me and said, "Look! I got green money! I want cheeseburgers!"



I guess I looked like the manager because then he said to me, "You need to fire every one in here! Every last one of them! I come back tomorrow, they better all be fired! I'm King Tut, so don't you mess with me! You front me and I WILL start throwing punches!"



Then he left.



But I have to say that King Tut was not Western European at all. Looked more like Third Ward Houston.



My life is never boring.



falloff You stoopid!



I was totally about to say the same thing!
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Reply #22 posted 12/21/10 7:07pm

Number23

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All DNA originated in Africa....

Eh...no.
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Reply #23 posted 12/21/10 7:13pm

SherryJackson

BklynBabe said:

All DNA originated in Africa....

YES! highfive

And as far as African = black goes..I'm Egyptian. You've seen my pictures. I'm technically North African (or Middle Eastern)...but I'm not black in colour. Africans come in all shades and shapes, but we still love each other. In fact...in Southern Egypt...all the inhabitants are black. But they're all Egyptians. It makes no difference. We're ALL African. Case closed.

And ps...Cleopatra is Greek. She's a Ptolemy, the last of their line. But she's an Egyptian as far as I'm concerned, born and raised in Egypt. And I'm sure if you ask her, she'd probably say the same. wink

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Reply #24 posted 12/21/10 7:19pm

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SherryJackson said:



BklynBabe said:


All DNA originated in Africa....

YES! highfive



Africans come in all shades and shapes, but we still love each other.

Eh...no. There is certainly DNA evidence that the human species originated in the African continent but as for DNA itself coming from 'Africa'...that's just bongo. A really strange thing for someone to say. Yet, it's not as bongo or strange as your other sentence I quoted.
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Reply #25 posted 12/21/10 7:28pm

SherryJackson

Number23 said:

SherryJackson said:

YES! highfive

Africans come in all shades and shapes, but we still love each other.
Eh...no. There is certainly DNA evidence that the human species originated in the African continent but as for DNA itself coming from 'Africa'...that's just bongo. A really strange thing for someone to say. Yet, it's not as bongo or strange as your other sentence I quoted. [Edited 12/21/10 11:22am]

Well...if you're goin' to get technical...of course "DNA" isn't restricted to Africa. Bacterial DNA, viral DNA, plant DNA, etc...those have probably originated from every part of the globe. But as far as human DNA is concerned, I'm pretty sure it started from Africa, as science would stipulate. Although I have heard that they found minerals or something very similar to those most found in biological systems along the banks of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in Iraq. No where else in the world...hmmm

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Reply #26 posted 12/21/10 7:32pm

Number23

SherryJackson said:



Number23 said:


SherryJackson said:


YES! highfive



Africans come in all shades and shapes, but we still love each other.

Eh...no. There is certainly DNA evidence that the human species originated in the African continent but as for DNA itself coming from 'Africa'...that's just bongo. A really strange thing for someone to say. Yet, it's not as bongo or strange as your other sentence I quoted. [Edited 12/21/10 11:22am]

Well...if you're goin' to get technical...of course "DNA" isn't restricted to Africa. Bacterial DNA, viral DNA, plant DNA, etc...those have probably originated from every part of the globe. But as far as human DNA is concerned, I'm pretty sure it started from Africa, as science would stipulate. Although I have heard that they found minerals or something very similar to those most found in biological systems along the banks of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in Iraq. No where else in the world...hmmm


What the fuck are you talking about?
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Reply #27 posted 12/21/10 7:34pm

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Number23 said:

SherryJackson said:

Well...if you're goin' to get technical...of course "DNA" isn't restricted to Africa. Bacterial DNA, viral DNA, plant DNA, etc...those have probably originated from every part of the globe. But as far as human DNA is concerned, I'm pretty sure it started from Africa, as science would stipulate. Although I have heard that they found minerals or something very similar to those most found in biological systems along the banks of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in Iraq. No where else in the world...hmmm

What the fuck are you talking about?

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Reply #28 posted 12/21/10 7:51pm

SherryJackson

Number23 said:

SherryJackson said:

Well...if you're goin' to get technical...of course "DNA" isn't restricted to Africa. Bacterial DNA, viral DNA, plant DNA, etc...those have probably originated from every part of the globe. But as far as human DNA is concerned, I'm pretty sure it started from Africa, as science would stipulate. Although I have heard that they found minerals or something very similar to those most found in biological systems along the banks of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in Iraq. No where else in the world...hmmm

What the fuck are you talking about?

Trying to answer your question about the origin of DNA.

And as far as my other quote "Africans come in all shades and shapes, but we still love each other.".I was sensing there's some racial vibe going on in this thread. Hence, I just said that it doesn't matter what race/colour you are. That's all I meant to say.

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Reply #29 posted 12/21/10 7:56pm

Number23

SherryJackson said:



Number23 said:


SherryJackson said:


Well...if you're goin' to get technical...of course "DNA" isn't restricted to Africa. Bacterial DNA, viral DNA, plant DNA, etc...those have probably originated from every part of the globe. But as far as human DNA is concerned, I'm pretty sure it started from Africa, as science would stipulate. Although I have heard that they found minerals or something very similar to those most found in biological systems along the banks of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in Iraq. No where else in the world...hmmm



What the fuck are you talking about?

Trying to answer your question about the origin of DNA.



And as far as my other quote "Africans come in all shades and shapes, but we still love each other.".I was sensing there's some racial vibe going on in this thread. Hence, I just said that it doesn't matter what race/colour you are. That's all I meant to say.




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