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Thread started 12/15/10 7:04am

uPtoWnNY

Gunman Opens Fire on Florida School Board, Misses

Fucking red state ass-wipe. It's a miracle no one was hurt.

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Reply #1 posted 12/15/10 7:13am

JustErin

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Jesus! That's terrifying.

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Reply #2 posted 12/15/10 7:26am

ScottRob

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holy crap! it's surreal...

Prince M&M people are as mad as a bag of sparrows. Fact.
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Reply #3 posted 12/15/10 7:30am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Fucking red state ass-wipe.

Right. Because this would never happen in a "blue" state. rolleyes

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Reply #4 posted 12/15/10 8:02am

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Whoa. eek

And the lady was the only one who had the balls to try and stop him...but it was sad how none of the men on the board went to try and save the woman...in the event that he could've shot her after he knocked her down.

Funny, none of the articles about this thus far even mentions the reason why the man's wife was fired.

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Reply #5 posted 12/15/10 8:07am

Graycap23

Sitting ducks. Very scary stuff..................

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Reply #6 posted 12/15/10 8:22am

BlackAdder7

preliminary reports indicate his "wife" never worked for the school district.

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Reply #7 posted 12/15/10 8:33am

missfee

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BlackAdder7 said:

preliminary reports indicate his "wife" never worked for the school district.

eek

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Reply #8 posted 12/15/10 8:51am

DrRockdapuss

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I don't understand how that first shot is a miss. I swore I saw it move his clothes.

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Reply #9 posted 12/15/10 9:54am

PANDURITO

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missfee said:

Whoa. eek

And the lady was the only one who had the balls to try and stop him...but it was sad how none of the men on the board went to try and save the woman...

confused

I'm surprised you're not offended at him for sending the ladies out. What ever happened to equal rights for women? no no no!

Do we want to go back to the 19th Century? disbelief

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Reply #10 posted 12/15/10 11:08am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Genesia said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Fucking red state ass-wipe.

Right. Because this would never happen in a "blue" state. rolleyes

don't get defensive.

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Reply #11 posted 12/15/10 11:12am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Sign O The Times. It truly is a miracle if none of those other people were hurt.

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Reply #12 posted 12/15/10 11:13am

nursev

Scary ass stuff-crazy world we live in eek Wow and look at the men just sit there and not try to help the woman in white eek Truly sad.

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Reply #13 posted 12/15/10 11:15am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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nursev said:

Scary ass stuff-crazy world we live in eek Wow and look at the men just sit there and not try to help the woman in white eek Truly sad.

I think at that point, moving around might only provoke more reaction from the guy. It's amazing that woman survived.

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Reply #14 posted 12/15/10 11:17am

nursev

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

nursev said:

Scary ass stuff-crazy world we live in eek Wow and look at the men just sit there and not try to help the woman in white eek Truly sad.

I think at that point, moving around might only provoke more reaction from the guy. It's amazing that woman survived.

Just seeing her try to sneak up behind him was atonishing eek I mean none of them even tried to help her eek and yes it is amazing he didn't kill her.

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Reply #15 posted 12/15/10 11:21am

babynoz

suicide by cop...

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Reply #16 posted 12/15/10 12:19pm

Ottensen

Genesia said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Fucking red state ass-wipe.

Right. Because this would never happen in a "blue" state. rolleyes

This is not an appropriate time for this. From a blue person or red person, a polka dot person or however you're hell bent on dividing yourselves. disbelief

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Reply #17 posted 12/15/10 12:34pm

Efan

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nursev said:

Scary ass stuff-crazy world we live in eek Wow and look at the men just sit there and not try to help the woman in white eek Truly sad.

I have mixed feelings about that question. I think that woman is incredibly brave and heroic.

On the other hand, possessing a penis shouldn't mean having to jump a guy with a gun just because a lady decided to.

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Reply #18 posted 12/15/10 12:37pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Efan said:

nursev said:

Scary ass stuff-crazy world we live in eek Wow and look at the men just sit there and not try to help the woman in white eek Truly sad.

I have mixed feelings about that question. I think that woman is incredibly brave and heroic.

On the other hand, possessing a penis shouldn't mean having to jump a guy with a gun just because a lady decided to.

It was a woman who asked if she could help her. But yeah, it shouldn't mean you have to lol

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Reply #19 posted 12/15/10 12:39pm

Efan

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Efan said:

I have mixed feelings about that question. I think that woman is incredibly brave and heroic.

On the other hand, possessing a penis shouldn't mean having to jump a guy with a gun just because a lady decided to.

It was a woman who asked if she could help her. But yeah, it shouldn't mean you have to lol

I didn't have the sound turned up when I watched it, so I didn't hear any of it. I should watch it again, but honestly it gives me the heebie-jeebies, so I don't want to. biggrin

I'd like to think that I would have helped the woman. I hope I would try to if ever faced with a situation like that. But I wouldn't blame any man or woman who doesn't risk his or her life at a time like that.

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Reply #20 posted 12/15/10 1:00pm

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They don't even know what the motive was for the shooting.

Dayum, how the hell do you miss when you're just a few feet away?

Kudos to that ole lady and her purse even though she fell down like a rag doll.

Oh well...good riddance to him.

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Reply #21 posted 12/15/10 1:29pm

nursev

Efan said:

nursev said:

Scary ass stuff-crazy world we live in eek Wow and look at the men just sit there and not try to help the woman in white eek Truly sad.

I have mixed feelings about that question. I think that woman is incredibly brave and heroic.

On the other hand, possessing a penis shouldn't mean having to jump a guy with a gun just because a lady decided to.

Well, when u put it that way falloff I guess it doesn't lol

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Reply #22 posted 12/15/10 1:47pm

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Did you guys hear about the cop who was gettin' beat up by a 64 year old and this woman jumped in and started clockin' grandpa something special? She saved the cop's life cuz the old man almost had the better of him.

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Reply #23 posted 12/15/10 1:53pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Did you guys hear about the cop who was gettin' beat up by a 64 year old and this woman jumped in and started clockin' grandpa something special? She saved the cop's life cuz the old man almost had the better of him.

Old people can be strong lol

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Reply #24 posted 12/15/10 2:02pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Did you guys hear about the cop who was gettin' beat up by a 64 year old and this woman jumped in and started clockin' grandpa something special? She saved the cop's life cuz the old man almost had the better of him.

Old people can be strong lol

nod when you see the video, you wouldn't think the guy was 64. the cop is in his thirties.

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Reply #25 posted 12/15/10 2:17pm

RodeoSchro

Those guys - especially the two that did the talking - have a LOt of guts.

And that lady that hit him with her purse better get a HUGE bonus!

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Reply #26 posted 12/15/10 2:18pm

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Sitting ducks. Very scary stuff..................

No kidding. The only chance I saw that they had to do anything was when the lady hit his hand with her purse. Other than that, you are exactly right - they were sitting ducks.

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Reply #27 posted 12/15/10 2:19pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Genesia said:

Right. Because this would never happen in a "blue" state. rolleyes

don't get defensive.

There was no reason to bring red state-blue state into this at all, so Genesia was right.

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Reply #28 posted 12/15/10 2:20pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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RodeoSchro said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

don't get defensive.

There was no reason to bring red state-blue state into this at all, so Genesia was right.

Right to engage in Red state Blue state lol

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Reply #29 posted 12/15/10 7:24pm

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PANAMA CITY, Fla. – Clay Duke was a troubled, broke ex-con with bipolar disorder, an interest in anarchy, a wife whose unemployment benefits had run out and frustrations that reached their boiling point on a day circled on his calendar at home.

The burly 56-year-old held a Florida school board at gunpoint Tuesday, saying he was prepared to die. He fired at board members, missing them by inches, then killed himself after exchanging gunfire with a security guard.

Duke's wife said Wednesday he was an excellent marksman and probably missed the five board members — sitting steps away — on purpose. One board member even crept up from behind and hit Duke with her purse — but he only called her a name and didn't shoot. "He didn't want anyone to get hurt but himself," Rebecca Duke said of the man she loved. She called him a "gentle giant."

"The economy and the world just got the better of him," she said. In the moments prior to the shooting, Duke spray painted a circle and a large, red V inside of it on the meeting room wall and muttered about rising taxes and how his wife was fired from the school district.

The school superintendent begged Duke not to shoot, but he did. No one but Duke was injured; a school security guard fired several shots and hit Duke three times in the back. In the end, Duke took his own life by shooting himself in the head. Police said the attack wasn't some spur of the moment idea. At his mobile home in the woods, they found Dec. 14 circled on a calendar. And police said he had at least 25 more rounds of ammunition in his pocket. The entire shooting was captured by local television stations, and the video was posted on the Internet and broadcast on TV throughout the day.

His Facebook page, which was public until late Wednesday afternoon, revealed a man who was fascinated with the movie "V for Vendetta" — which depicts the same symbol that Duke spray painted onto the wall just before he took out his gun. As board members gave television interviews about the harrowing experience, a sad and troubling portrait of Duke emerged.

Born in Ocala, Fla., Duke graduated from high school in Tampa. Little is known about his early adult years — family members claimed he was in the Air Force for eight years, but that could not be confirmed. In the mid-1990s, Duke had drifted to the Florida Panhandle — not the spring break-filled sugar sand beaches, but the remote and wooded inland.

The '90s were a blur of court hearings and personal conflicts. He divorced a woman named Anita in 1995 and at some point, had a daughter. He was sued by a property management company in 1999. In 2000, he was convicted for waiting in the woods for his ex-wife with a rifle, wearing a mask and a bulletproof vest. She confronted him and then tried to leave in a vehicle, and Duke shot the tires. His second wife, Rebecca, said the incident was a misunderstanding and that he went to his ex-wife's house because the ex-wife "wouldn't leave them alone."

Duke's attorney on the case, Ben Bollinger, remembered Duke as especially paranoid about the new millennium. "He was one of these Y2k people," he said, referring to a computer bug that some people thought was going to cause massive problems and economic chaos Jan. 1, 2000. "He was one of those believers that the world was going to turn for worst and he was stockpiling weapons, assault weapons." Bollinger said Duke took a plea agreement: Five years in prison followed by 10 years probation.

A judge relieved him of the probation obligations in January after Duke said he was unemployed and his wife might soon be. He said he was looking to move to a better place to find a job, according to court documents posted on the Smoking Gun website.

He also sought psychiatric help and took his medications as ordered and completed his probation, his lawyer said. "He was competent but he was one of those people had a mood disorder where they could be depressed one day and all excited another day. I just remember the doctor saying he had a personality disorder," Bollinger recalled.

While in prison, Duke filed for bankruptcy. He was released in January 2004. About a year later, he sued the Social Security Administration, which had denied his application for disability benefits and health insurance. "He couldn't work. He just mentally couldn't make the connection for eight hours a day," said David Evans, the attorney who represented Duke. Evans said Duke had been diagnosed by several doctors as bipolar, but didn't have enough money to buy the needed medication. "He was clearly in need of help," Evans said.

They filed at least five appeals to the denials. "The judges adjudicating the claims didn't feel the claim was significant enough," Evans said. "All he was asking for was $500 or $600 a month and medical insurance." Duke withdrew the suit in 2006. He and Rebecca had married in 1999, just before his prison sentence. She said Wednesday that Duke faithfully took his medication for his bipolar disorder, but that he was under a lot of stress — she had been fired from the school district and her final unemployment check was due this week.

Tommye Lou Richardson, the executive director of human resources for the Bay District, said Rebecca Duke was hired in September 2009 as a primary school teacher for students with special needs. She was given a 97-day probationary period, and was terminated. "She was not performing appropriately, we thought, the principal thought, and so she was let go," Richardson said. She wasn't able to go into any further detail. Richardson said Rebecca Duke had "indicated that she felt like there was a violation of her employment rights," though she never filed a lawsuit.

About a week ago, Clay Duke joined Facebook. Over the past several days, he added photo stills from the movie and graphic novel "V for Vendetta," a nihilistic account of a masked man who fights against a totalitarian government. The movie's predominant symbol — a red "V" inside of a circle — was posted several times on Duke's page.

He also quoted the final passage from Percy Shelley's "Masque of Anarchy": "Rise like lions after slumber/In unvanquishable number/Shake your chains to earth, like dew/Which in sleep had fall'n on you/Ye are many-they are few." Duke had no Facebook friends — although by Wednesday afternoon, thousands of people responded to his earlier postings, many of them critical of Tuesday's shooting. Others were more sympathetic, saying that Duke was driven to madness because of the difficult economy.

Duke had written something of a suicide note in his "About Me" section: "My testament: Some people (the government sponsored media) will say I was evil, a monster (V) ... no ... I was just born poor in a country where the Wealthy manipulate, use, abuse, and economically enslave 95 percent of the population. Rich Republicans, Rich Democrats ... same-same ... rich ... they take turns fleecing us ... our few dollars ... pyramiding the wealth for themselves."

I'm a bit more sympathetic toward him reading that. shrug

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