I'm definately "Merry Christmas", I think it's dumb when people say happy holidays. They act like there's a dozen holidays. Now that we're over Thanksgiving, there's really only 2 biggies.

Christmas (includes Christmas eve)

New Years (includes New Years eve)

We take the holidays one at time. Let's see if you can follow this.

From here till Dec 25th, it's "Merry Christmas".

From Dec 26th till Jan 1st, it's "Happy New Year".

It's amazing how people say "Happy Holidays" up till Christmas, but then after Christmas, you don't hear Happy Holidays anymore, now they will separate the holiday and say Happy New Year.

What if you celebrate Hanukkah or Kwanzaa instead of Christmas?

sextonseven said:

What if you celebrate Hanukkah or Kwanzaa instead of Christmas?

Then the person could say nothing or say "and Happy Hanukkah to you".

Funkcreep said:

sextonseven said:

What if you celebrate Hanukkah or Kwanzaa instead of Christmas?

Then the person could say nothing or say "and Happy Hanukkah to you".

If you don't care if the person says Happy Hanukkah to you, then why the fuck do you care if they say Happy Holidays?

Efan said:

Funkcreep said:

Then the person could say nothing or say "and Happy Hanukkah to you".

If you don't care if the person says Happy Hanukkah to you, then why the fuck do you care if they say Happy Holidays?

Because it's irritating that people try to take the Christ out of Christmas. Like me son's school has "Winter Break". How stupid!!! I crossed it off in his folder and wrote "Christmas Break"

Funkcreep said:

sextonseven said:

What if you celebrate Hanukkah or Kwanzaa instead of Christmas?

Then the person could say nothing or say "and Happy Hanukkah to you".

The next time I'm not sure if someone celebrates Christmas or Hanukkah and they wish me a happy holidays, I'll tell them nothing. Thanks.

sextonseven said:

Funkcreep said:

Then the person could say nothing or say "and Happy Hanukkah to you".

The next time I'm not sure if someone celebrates Christmas or Hanukkah and they wish me a happy holidays, I'll tell them nothing. Thanks.

OR

you can ask them "what do you celebrate".....and there ya go. Problem solved.

Funkcreep said:

sextonseven said:

The next time I'm not sure if someone celebrates Christmas or Hanukkah and they wish me a happy holidays, I'll tell them nothing. Thanks.

OR

you can ask them "what do you celebrate".....and there ya go. Problem solved.

Why not just wish them a happy holidays as they are walking out the door and cover all your bases?

Honestly, this is just dumb... and probably bait.

This time of year brings Thanksgiving, Advent, Eid, Hanukkah, Diwali, Yule, Kwanzaa, Christmas, Boxing Day, St. Stephens Day, Candlemas, the New Year, Epiphany and Lord knows what other religous and/or secular winter festivals. People in a pluralistic society default at "Happy Holidays" because not knowing one's religious convictions, it is a neutral good-will greeting. That certain people take that charitability as an offense says a lot about what unstable, entitled personality they are.

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Funkcreep said:

Efan said:

If you don't care if the person says Happy Hanukkah to you, then why the fuck do you care if they say Happy Holidays?

Because it's irritating that people try to take the Christ out of Christmas. Like me son's school has "Winter Break". How stupid!!! I crossed it off in his folder and wrote "Christmas Break"

don't assume I celebrate christmas, because I don't. happy holidays is fine. Christ was taken out of Christmas a long time ago, when Christmas became a time to exchange pajamas your auntie bought you, instead of the digital camera you really wanted. Christmas to many, has become a commercial holiday. ask macys, and amazon.com.

you're living up to your org name, btw

It's called respect.

Respecting eachothers Faith or lack there of, and which Holiday they celebrate, if any.

Lammastide said:

Honestly, this is just dumb... and probably bait.

This time of year brings Thanksgiving, Advent, Eid, Hanukkah, Diwali, Yule, Kwanzaa, Christmas, Boxing Day, St. Stephens Day, Candlemas, the New Year, Epiphany and Lord knows what other religous and/or secular winter festivals. People in a pluralistic society default at "Happy Holidays" because not knowing one's religious convictions, it is a neutral, good-will greeting. That certain people take that charitability as an offense says a lot about what unstable, entitled personality they are.

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Thats why I said "biggies". Christmas and New Years. You take those 2 out and December is just another month.

Funkcreep said:

Lammastide said:

Honestly, this is just dumb... and probably bait.

This time of year brings Thanksgiving, Advent, Eid, Hanukkah, Diwali, Yule, Kwanzaa, Christmas, Boxing Day, St. Stephens Day, Candlemas, the New Year, Epiphany and Lord knows what other religous and/or secular winter festivals. People in a pluralistic society default at "Happy Holidays" because not knowing one's religious convictions, it is a neutral, good-will greeting. That certain people take that charitability as an offense says a lot about what unstable, entitled personality they are.

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Thats why I said "biggies". Christmas and New Years. You take those 2 out and December is just another month.

It may come as a surprise to you that some people don't need their own holidays to be whored out to the world to consider them "biggies." If you enjoy this sort of thing, have at it.

In the meantime, given the (lack of) real Spirit so many so-called keepers of Christmas exude year 'round, I'd say that whether or not we take Christmas and New Years away, December transpires as just another month... only with garland.

...And I say this as one who pursues Christ's example.

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I'm done here. I took the bait and I'm spitting it out.

Lammastide said:

Honestly, this is just dumb... and probably bait.

This time of year brings Thanksgiving, Advent, Eid, Hanukkah, Diwali, Yule, Kwanzaa, Christmas, Boxing Day, St. Stephens Day, Candlemas, the New Year, Epiphany and Lord knows what other religous and/or secular winter festivals. People in a pluralistic society default at "Happy Holidays" because not knowing one's religious convictions, it is a neutral good-will greeting. That certain people take that charitability as an offense says a lot about what unstable, entitled personality they are.

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Well, I wouldn't got that far, but I completely understand why people say "Happy Holidays." I do it when in mixed company and don't know whether some folk may be Jewish, Muslim, or whatever. I find the "die hard" Christians and "Bible thumpers" are the ones most adamant about saying Merry Christmas and don't give a fuck about ether's religious ceremonies. My manager is like that.

The Day of the Three Kings which I celebrate also comes into play, so to me

Happy Holidays is appropriate.

On Christmas I say Merry Christmas, otherwise I say holidays, which is HOLY days, days that are HOLY and doesn't take away from any religious meaning at all IMO.

No biggie.

BlackAdder7 said:

Funkcreep said:

Because it's irritating that people try to take the Christ out of Christmas. Like me son's school has "Winter Break". How stupid!!! I crossed it off in his folder and wrote "Christmas Break"

don't assume I celebrate christmas, because I don't. happy holidays is fine. Christ was taken out of Christmas a long time ago, when Christmas became a time to exchange pajamas your auntie bought you, instead of the digital camera you really wanted. Christmas to many, has become a commercial holiday. ask macys, and amazon.com.

you're living up to your org name, btw

Ahhhhh but you're paying for my kids Christmas.......

Thanks!

And isn't Rhamadon around now too. I know I spelled that wrong.

Funkcreep said:

Thats why I said "biggies". Christmas and New Years. You take those 2 out and December is just another month.

Where do you live? In New York, there are probably millions of people here who celebrate Hanukkah. Personally I find it irritating when people try to force CHRISTmas down my agnostic throat, which is why I prefer "Bah humbug."

I'm predicting a move to P&R or a for this thread...

TotalANXiousNESS said:

And isn't Rhamadon around now too. I know I spelled that wrong.

No Ramadan was in August/September this year. It's based on the new moon so the exact dates move each year (on a solar based calendar).

http://www.when-is.com/ramadan-2010.asp

Funkcreep said:

Efan said:

If you don't care if the person says Happy Hanukkah to you, then why the fuck do you care if they say Happy Holidays?

Because it's irritating that people try to take the Christ out of Christmas. Like me son's school has "Winter Break". How stupid!!! I crossed it off in his folder and wrote "Christmas Break"

My son goes to school with children that are not Christians. He also goes to a public school so religion has no business being discussed...period. Winter Break makes sense.

Christmas in our house is about family and Santa only...and has nothing to do with religion.

It's best to say happy holidays since no matter what religion you are, you're probably going to have some time off at some point.

Efan said:

Funkcreep said:

Then the person could say nothing or say "and Happy Hanukkah to you".

If you don't care if the person says Happy Hanukkah to you, then why the fuck do you care if they say Happy Holidays?

I swear if I wasn't married I'd slip a ring on your...finger.

Funkcreep said:

Efan said:

If you don't care if the person says Happy Hanukkah to you, then why the fuck do you care if they say Happy Holidays?

Because it's irritating that people try to take the Christ out of Christmas. Like me son's school has "Winter Break". How stupid!!! I crossed it off in his folder and wrote "Christmas Break"

Oh Christ, not this shit again.

There you go, it's the holidays and I've kept his name in the game.

I've never heard anyone in Britain say 'Happy Holidays'.

Merry/happy christmas.

Lisa10 said:

I've never heard anyone in Britain say 'Happy Holidays'.

Merry/happy christmas.

Thank you

Funkcreep said:

Lisa10 said:

I've never heard anyone in Britain say 'Happy Holidays'.

Merry/happy christmas.

Thank you

That's because holiday also means vacation in England.

sextonseven said:

Funkcreep said:

Thank you

That's because holiday also means vacation in England.

You're not givin me anything are you? lol

Tough crowd here at the org

sextonseven said:

Funkcreep said:

Thank you

That's because holiday also means vacation in England.

True. Nothing else has been invented for us to say over here.

It only means vacation.

I say Merry Christmas. If someone says either one or fills in with a holiday of their choice, I don't really care.

If they insist "But, I'm not Christian." I'm guessing I would either apologize if I were in a good mood or say "Cool. Me neither" if I wanted to be a smartass.

IMO, the "taking Christ out of Christmas" argument is tired, as is the "actually Christmas started as a pagan holiday" spiel that folks love to drop this time of year like they just stumbled upon some new knowledge and couldn't wait to share it with the rest of the world.